THE STATUS QUO IS NOT SUSTAINABLE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF A DEAL WITH THE PA, BUT BECAUSE WAR IS COMING REGARDLESS OF A DEAL. THE US HAS BIGGER FISH TO FRY AND SHOULD STOP THIS PEACE MAKING OBSESSION.
The United States plans a new push to promote comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Tuesday, suggesting reinvigorated U.S. role in trying to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.[..]
“The president will be speaking in greater detail about America’s policy in the Middle East and North Africa in the coming weeks,” Clinton said at the U.S.-Islamic World Forum, a gathering sponsored by Qatar and the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.
“America’s core interests and values have not changed, including our commitment to promote human rights, resolve long-standing conflicts, counter Iran’s threats and defeat Al-Qaida and its extremist allies,” she added. “This includes renewed pursuit of comprehensive Arab-Israeli peace.”
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“The status quo between Palestinians and Israelis is no more sustainable than the political systems that have crumbled in recent months,” she said, saying the only way to meet both people’s aspirations was through a two-state solution.
“And while it is a truism that only the parties themselves can make the hard choices for peace, there is no substitute for continued, active American leadership — and the president and I are committed to that,” she added.
Bingo, my @$$, as I showed in No. 15.
Some typos in No. 15 corrected as follows:
“There cannot be multiple Crestors” should read “There cannot be multiple Creators.”
“Israel is a sovereign country that never does anything their own government has decided to do.” should read, “Israel is a sovereign country that never does anything their own government has decided NOT to do.”
You cannot separate Yamit from his anti-Israeli propaganda and consistent sympathy with Muslim tyrants as we can see again in No. 10 above. Just because he’s your friend doesn’t change the totality of what he writes here. If you are with him on Kosovo you would be against the evidence presented at the International Court. You opposition seems to come from anti-Muslim sentiment, but I have actually spoken to Kosovan refugees and seen their scars. What happened there was a micro version of the Holocaust, and the fact that the victims were Muslims cannot change the facts.
Francisco Gil-White is about as serious as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Liberating a brutal tyranny can never be a bad idea, no matter what the people then do with it. The one mistake the US made due to political correctness was not whacking Mookie al Sadr when they had the chance. This ignorant moron’s father was killed by Saddam and he could not even live in Saddam’s Iraq – yet he is against the US liberation which he could have done nothing to achieve. They should still whack him as far as I’m concerned.
That’s right – and Mussolini and Hitler made the trains run on time and N. Korea and Cuba and Zimbabwe are stable countries.
Oh, really? http://prophecytoday.com/news/2010/01/syrias-basher-assad-and-libyas-koammar.php
This suggests yet another successful brainwashing by some clever Rabbi. There is only one true God. Allah is the Muslim name for God. Thus Allah is the same God. There cannot be multiple Crestors. Bhagwan is the Hindu name for God. Where do you get the hubris to decide who is God. This is the height of arrogance if not outright blasphemy.
You have the same right to say that HE is NOT Hashem as Christians have the right to say that HE IS.
Just as Jews have misinterpreted the New Testament. If think about it, which I admit is difficult when your brains have been so thoroughly washed, all it took for Christ to be rejected as the Messiah by the Rabbis and Pharisees of his era is that HE made them look foolish by sticking to their exclusivity, intolerance and meaningless form over substance.
All I do is correct the record and provide an alternative POV that fits the facts far more closely than Yamit does. For anyone to repeatedly assert that the US has acted against the interests of Israel over the loong run is just a determined prevaricator who plays right into the hands of Israel’s enemies.
So what? This is geopolitics, not a ladies social club.
I tell my kids the same thing when they whine that their friends made them do something. Israel is a sovereign country that never does anything their own government has decided to do. The proof lies in the numerous times it has not done what the US asked.
The pressure comes from the original objective of a two-state solution – which Israel has acepted in principle from its inception and in several subsequent actions and agreements. The only reason you don’t have a two-state situation today is the intransigence of the Palestinians.
If there is a wedge it is between Israelis who think like you and the Israeli governments that have been elected by a majority of Israelis.
Bingo Ted! The wedge is chametz – time to rid ourselves of it. We can be allies, but as soon as the line gets crossed, say so and step back.
AE. One more thing. Everytime that Yamit points out how the US hurts Israel, you come to the defense of the US. Israelis, Yamit included, always acknowledge what we get from the US but argue that there are too many strings attached or that it is a quid pro quo for what the US gets from us. But you never acknowledge that the US does bad things to us, like preventing us from winning wars or forcing us into a peace process, or dictating the outcome of the “negotiations’or demanding we cease settlement activity. You may think that’s fair ball but we don’t. You justify their pressure by saying Israel doesn’t have to cave. While that may be true but that pressure removes the US from the category of “friend”.
Yamit is not driving a wedge between us he is merely shinning a light on wedge that exists.
AE. This is not about Yamit. It is about truth. So stop bashing him. Bash his arguments. I am with him on Kosovo. I reject the US and the MSM spin on events. Everything they said has been debunked. The Serbs were defending themselves from attacks by the Muslims. They were defending their land and sovereignty. I say this after doing a major investigation for over a year. If you want to read up on it go to the blog of Francesco Gil-White, HIR . He is a very serious scholar and researcher.
As for Afghanistan, you are right but it would have been enough to keep bombing the shit out of them. After 9/11 they had to do something.
Iraq seemed like a good idea at the time. No one mentioned the possibility that it would increase Iranian influence. But the US met an unexpected insugency that has tied them up for years. In hindsight it was a bad idea. America should favour stability in the ME not reform.
Obama should not have worked to depose Mubarak. He should not have attacked Libya. Mubarak and Kadaffi both kept the radical forces under control. Kadaffi made his amends and had been rehabilitated in Europe and America. Neither were a danger to America or Israel.
This is so dumb. You sure you don’t want to retract it? Obama started the bombing. Kadaffi was no threat to Israel.
There is one true God agreed. He is not one and the same with Allah. I know nothing about Bhagman but if he isn’t the God of Abraham, he isn’t God. As for the Christians who insist that Jesus is God in the flesh or his begotten son, Jews are right to say he is not Hashem. Christians by their dogma have distorted the nature of God as set out in the Torah. They have also misinterpreted the Torah in an attempt to validate their faith.
Let them believe what they want to believe but they, you included, should not tell Jews what our Torah says and means.
Oy, veh! More subtle admiration and support for lifelong enemies of Israel.
The answer is NATO, led by the US, to stop the genocide of Kosovan Muslims by Christian fascists. This had nothing to do with Israel.
We see here what I have noted before. Yamit has never seen a Muslim tyrant he doesn’t admire and cover for, here by calling Saddam Hussein a weak an benign dictator. Tell that to the Shia and Kurds who had to be protected by no-fly zones. Tell that to the families of some 300,000 of Saddam’s political enemies whose bones were found in mass graves.
Saddam had allowed Ansar al Sunnah, an Al Qaeda subsidiary, to locate training camps in Iraq, had provided Al Qaeda uber-terrorist Abu Musab al Zarkawi with medical care and sanctuary after he was injured in Afghanistan, had defied 17 UNSC resolutions over 12 years by refusing to disclose where he had hidden his WMDs, and was paying subsidies to encourage suicide bombers in Israel. He had previously attacked Israel with Scud missiles. No wonder Yamit is upset that the US took him down.
The Taliban tyrants who ruled Afghanistan had harbored Osama Bin Laden, allowed him to set up Al Qaeda training camps for the attack on 9/11, and refused a US ultimatum to hand him over to the US to be tried for his serial attacks on US interests throughout the 90’s. No wonder Yamit is upset the US took the Taliban down.
Nato, led by Britain and France, to take down yet another life-long enemy of Israel. No wonder Yamit is upset that yet another enemy of Israel may be deposed.
There is only be one TRUE God. While Yamit blasphemes HIM at every opportunity, the Jews call HIM Hashem, the Muslims call HIM Allah, the Hindus call HIM Bhagwan, and the Christians call HIM God.
Who was it who bombed Christian Serbs in favor of Muslim Albanians in Kosovo?
Who was it who overturned an anti Islamic and a weak almost benign dictator by that time in Iraq in-favor of radical Persians?
Who was it that invaded a primitive no threat to America, Afghanistan?
Who is bombing a sovereign nation called Libya?
What happened to your Moon God allah? A true polytheist Indian. Interchangeable gods?
Oy, veh! Here we see an anti-American Israeli zealot whining AGAIN about those evil Americans – while doing NOTHING to help Israel by doing what I have suggested, using a weapon that the Palis have GIVEN Israel on a platter – documented evidence to prove that “talks” and “negotiations” would be useless.
Yet we see once again the PARANOID, IDIOTIC AND FALSE notion that the US has spent BILLIONS in aid, arms and UN vetoes, not to mention the enmity of many Muslim nations who call America the Great Satan for its implacable support for Israel, so as to finish what Hitler started.
Hashem help Israel from such citizens.
Since the underlying and overriding agenda of almost all American governments since 48′ is to advance Hitlers unfinished business by using the Arab and Muslim world as the means, throwing the charters of the Palis in their faces will be pointless. They know what the charters say and intend to help them carry out the terms of those charters.
Democrats should be kept as far away from foreign policy as possible. Come to think of it, domestic policy as well. Obama has only political motivations, as we are also seeing in his shenanigans with the US budget and deficit spending, which he wants even more of. In Libya he is trying to show that he is not a wuss. The problem is that everyone knows that he is.
Laura
You do me a big unjustice there. You do not understand.
Why don’t the Israelis stuff copies of the founding charters if the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad in Madame Clinton’s and Imam Obama’s ugly faces and ask them what the hell are any “talks” going to achieve with adversaries who have no intentions of any peace agreement that includes Israel.
Tell these two morons to come back AFTER the Palis have a) accepted Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state because they are all Muslim states, b) renounce violence, and c) they have formally and publicly amended their charters to reflect their change of heart.
Not only will kill this bullcrap about talks but it will maintain the status quo until hell freezes over, because the Palis will commit mass suicide before that comply with these three very reasonable demands as a pre-requisite to any talks.
This is not rocket science people. It is part of Negotiating-101 to reject the adversary’s premise up front, which short-circuits their brains. When they are intransigent as the Palis their brains will be frazzled indefinitely.
Felix,
You might be interested that my Democratic congressman stood firmly against Obama’s interference in Libya, right from the start (He also opposed Clinton in his war against Yugoslavia). Resistance like this played no small part in curbing Obama’s appetites.
Felix, I oppose the Libya war but please don’t glorify Qaddafi. He’s an antisemite and mass murderer.
There are very many and very powerful websites and media outlets, much more powerful than our small voice on http://www.wedefendisrael.com, but it is now an historical fact that we alone were able to, and were prepared to stand up and to call for the victory to Muammar Gadhafi over the forces of what I call the “Empire Sharia Alliance”, and we did so from the very first moment. Also, from the standpoint of the defence of Israel, we made the call to much opposition on this very site, Israpundit, for the unconditional defence of Mubarak in Egypt, also from the very first moment.
FROM LIBYA TO ISRAEL…PAUSING IN THEIR AIM OF MURDERING MUAMMAR GADHAFI THE US EMPIRE IS NOW GOING AFTER ISRAEL
WHY OBAMA AND CLINTON ARE SO DANGEROUS TO THE JEWS COME SEPTEMBER (OR BEFORE)
I say “before” because after watching US in Yugoslavia I have learned that they are a master in deceit
Who were the great pushers in an imperialist war to topple Muammar Gadhafi and replace him with an Islamist Muslim Brotherhood based clique?
On the surface it seemed to be Britain and France, especially from where I stand the British jingoist Imperialists Cameron and Hague, and their gutter media outlets in the Sun and the Daily Mail among others, on the blog front Harrys Place.
But while giving the appearance of reluctance behind them were the air power of the US and as Debka reported continually when the US pulled back the British and French, with them the UN and EU, were stranded in that aim of “the killing of Gadhafi”
What happened?
Gadhafi was too courageous for them. Gadhafi in that first memorable speech stood on the spot where his daughter had been murdered by the Clinton US strike, and spoke from the heart. He challenged them all like a revolutionary, stating that he was prepared to die fighting.
Later in another memorable interview, his son Saif summed up this spirit:
I think it is as simple as that. There are times when history turns on the basis of people prepared to fight, and without knowing where it would end, or if that fight would be successful in the immediate situation. Just like the Irish Rebels of Easter 1916 who rose up in Dublin against the British Imperialist Occupation of their country not at all knowing where it would end.
And they also fought! And the Gadhafis rallied their people! And they were on the point of winning when the British and French struck!
As Debka reported at some time around then the US pulled back, and it is that pulling back that I think makes the US Imperialists so dangerous to Israel as this year goes on.
As far as Obama and his clique is concerned the issue is still Israel, and the creation of the mortal enemy of Israel, the Palestine Jihad state
The Jewish people, of all of these peoples, are the key people for Obama, because they are the one entity which has the power, coming to it from history, which has the capability to really rattle the dominance of US Imperialism in the world.
This key aspect of the Jewish people needs to be elaborated on more fully at another time. I state it here as a self-evident truth.
The US elites play many tunes. I see them as not giving up on “the killing of Gadhafi” and that will be pursued. But their gaze has turned once more to “the killing of the Jewish state”.