Conference: Extend Sovereignty Now

By Ted Belman

Joel Meltzer organized this conference which was held in Jerusalem about a month ago. I helped promote it and arranged that it be videotaped. The speakers were Caroline Glick, Amb. Yoram Ettinger, Dani Dayan and Motti Kedar. Below are the videos from the event. They are not very professionally done but I did the best I could. Paris David Blumenthal came in from Ashdod to take the videos and David Reaboi of the Centre For Security Policy in the US edited the videos. Thanks to both of you.

July 14, 2011 | 11 Comments »

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  1. @ Felix Quigley:
    addressed to all but especially to Yamit

    Ninety-nine percent of our thinkers say: Because our crisis is that of the entire world, we must solve the world’s crisis, and then ours will be resolved; socialism, democracy, the danger of world war – the resolution of our crisis will come with the resolution of the world crisis. This seems a logical solution. But the solution proposed by a movement of national liberation is different: Resolve the two crises by separating completely from the foreign world, and returning to our own. Thus we can be rid of both crises. (Israel Eldad, Principles for a Hebrew Liberation Movement )

    Trotskys and Bronsteins

    “It’s the Trotskys who make revolutions and the Bronsteins who pay the price!”


    Cycles and Revolutions:

    Cycles and Revolutions | Alan Dershowitz: Trotskys and Bronsteins

    Cycles and Revolutions | Dmitry Salita: Jewish Identity and Nationality

    Who would be my prototype of a real Jewish leader? Mordechai the Jew

    One Can Only Rely On One’s Own Hands . . . And Feet..(JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE OF SHUSHAN HABIRA
    by Dr. Israel Eldad)

    If not miracles, what is there to rely upon? For Mordechai, the Jew of ancient Shushan, it was not enough to have the anti-Jewish decree revoked. He also realized that it was necessary to pray and fast — and pray and fast he did. He saw that it was necessary to plead with the king, and so he sent a certain lady to plead with him. Ultimately, he also asked the king’s permission to destroy and kill all of Haman’s followers, and if the Book of Esther says that he killed seventy-five thousand men that day it means that Haman has a whole party behind him a kind of Persian SS or Fatah, through which he had intended to implement his final solution. On them Mordechai took his revenge.
    This is a good thing to keep in mind. For, of course, there were people in the ghettoes and in the forests who fought back and took their vengeance. But they came too late. Most of the Jews of Europe were exterminated. This is a good thing to remember — lest once again we be too late. What Mordechai did in Shushan was to set up a Jewish Defense — and Revenge — League. The Book of Esther, which was compiled in Persia, says that he did so with King Ahasuerus’ consent. But who can tell. Queen Esther certainly could not tell the whole truth, how Mordechai had set up this organization long before he got official permission for it, so that it was ready when he needed it. Certainly no democratic regime can suffer in it midst an illegal organization for armed defense. On the other hand — one cannot always rely on the “establishment” and on the police. Sometimes they come too late. Nor can one always rely on the democracy of a city like Shushan.

    Therefore, a people that has a leader like Mordechai, a leader who can follow the triple course of faith and prayer, of political action and active defense may call itself truly blessed.

  2. A lever correctly applied makes the human arm capable of lifting a weight many times exceeding its living force, but without the living arm the lever is nothing but a dead stick.

    Trotsky after the Russian Revolution

    The living arm here is the Israeli people

    The lever is the leadership (which just does not exist in Israel)

    addressed to all but especially to Yamit

  3. @ aaron shuster:

    The masses will follow whoever controls the narrative at any given time and circumstances.

    “What Alexander Hamilton said in his day [“the masses are asses”] was a mere echo of a famous Yiddish folk saying, “der oylem iz a goylem”. The golem, one recalls, is that brutish being incapable of independent thought, and keyed to the will of its master. Alas, the more things change, the less anything in the Jewish world does. The OYLEM, the Jews, remains a GOYLEM…”

  4. @ BlandOatmeal:

    In otherwords if we won’t let you in through the front door you can come through the back door providing of course that there are enough stupid Jews here to let you in.

    I live in Israel and still don’t know what the majority of Jews want and BTW, I don’t care what any majority here wants. It;s always a zealous minority that determines the outcome either in our context the right or the left, religious or secular etc.

    This is also historically true for every transitional and revolutionary movement in all of history. The left both in Israel and the west in general always seem to reinvent themselves according to existing circumstances but the right religious or secular, usually remain truer to first principles.

    Some form of the religious right will win-out here because they are focused on the ends served and not deterred by the many zig zags and ever changing superficial political and economic currents. If in time a Charismatic Leader of this Israeli right arises everything you blieve today will be mute. My take is that most Jewish Israelis really want such a leader who will unite Israel around Jewish strength and Jewish values, culture and Jewish Laws.

    In such a state of course no Christian will be allowed into Israel and all Arabs removed. For Catholics the still majority of Christianity Rome is the spiritual center and for non Catholics depends on which cult you are asking re: what if any is their spiritual center. The Bahai, have a huge spiritual center in Haifa. Since they are not Pagan they can stay.

    I would change the name of the IDF, to just the “Army of Israel” where the concept of defense does not exist as a military or political doctrine. I would rather see an Israel hated by the world but alive than loved by the world after we are dead.

    If Israel and our leaders refuse to do what is incumbent upon them from a Jewish POV, then circumstances will materialize to force them to do what they refused to do beforehand.

    Deuteronomy 31:6
    Be strong and of good courage, do not fear nor be afraid of them; for the LORD your God, He is the One who goes with you. He will not leave you nor forsake you.

    Joshua 1:3-9
    I promise you what I promised Moses: ‘Wherever you set foot, you will be on land I have given you … No one will be able to stand against you as long as you live. For I will be with you as I was with Moses. I will not fail you or abandon you.

    Be strong and courageous, for you are the one who will lead these people to possess all the land I swore to their ancestors I would give them. Be strong and very courageous. Be careful to obey all the instructions Moses gave you. Do not deviate from them, turning either to the right or to the left. Then you will be successful in everything you do. Study this Book of Instruction continually. Meditate on it day and night so you will be sure to obey everything written in it. Only then will you prosper and succeed in all you do. This is my command—be strong and courageous! Do not be afraid or discouraged. For the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.

    ‘Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them: When ye pass over the Jordan into the land of Canaan, then ye shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their figured stones, and destroy all their molten images, and demolish all their high places. And ye shall drive out the inhabitants of the land, and dwell therein; for unto you have I given the land to possess it. And ye shall inherit the land by lot according to your families–to the more ye shall give the more inheritance, and to the fewer thou shalt give the less inheritance; wheresoever the lot falleth to any man, that shall be his; according to the tribes of your fathers shall ye inherit. But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then shall those that ye let remain of them be as thorns in your eyes, and as pricks in your sides, and they shall harass you in the land wherein ye dwell. And it shall come to pass, that as I thought to do unto them, so will I do unto you.

  5. dlurya Said:

    Without sovereignty, Israel will become a stagnant ghetto- with no room for growth, no future for its younger generations. Even now, young Israeli people are complaining that they cannot afford to live in Israel, and sadly many have had to move away in order to make a life, have a home and raise children.

    Assuming the Arabs were fluffy teddy bears without a drop of homicidal Jihadists tendencies in their history or their thoughts, this is not true. Israel’s housing problems begin with the land allocations and prices controlled by the Israeli government’s Lands Authority bureaucracy. From there it continues with the high cost of imported construction machinery and materials, much of it due to customs and VAT addon costs.

    Both the Negev and the Galil are underdeveloped and both are losing their Jewish majority. If I’m not mistaken, the Galil has lost it already. All this in addition to the government being impotent to the massive land grabs by Bedouin and Arabs throughout the country.

    Don’t get me wrong. Yehuda and Shomron should have been declared Israel sovereign territory in 1967. But the housing problems in Israel are not directly related to this in any way.

    BlandOatmeal says:
    July 15, 2011 at 2:25 am

    If American Christians DID do such a thing, as idiots like Moishe Feiglin are sure to say they plan to…

    The only persistent idiot here is you. In addition to crackpot christian messyanic “Ephramite” sects actually claiming entitlement to areas in Judea and Samaria, the government and the local Jewish populace in J&S just keep on enticing and promoting these christian Israeli wannabees even more.

  6. @BlandOatmeal
    Mate, have you taken some angry pills lately? Don’t you think its a beautiful thing that while they don’t want it, they will end up with it as their enemies are currently tearing themselves apart?

  7. It was good, as usual, to see Caroline Glick clearly and logically enunciating the issues. She revealed an ugly fact, though, that the Jews of Israel can’t make up their own minds about whether or not they want to keep control over their country’s heartland.

    My first response to this, was, “If the Jews don’t want Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem, why don’t we just mobilize a million American Christians to take over the place?” That is feasible — much more feasible than expecting the Jews either here or there to do the same. Christians, after all, do have a legitimate claim over the area. They claim a spiritual heritage there, in that their leader Jesus was born and raised there, as well as all his followers. Western Christians also maintained a country in Israel for about a hundred years, with its capital in Jerusalem — more than the Jews have done since the time of the Maccabees; and this makes no mention of the hundreds of years that Eastern Christians lived and ruled there.

    If American Christians DID do such a thing, as idiots like Moishe Feiglin are sure to say they plan to, the Jews would without a doubt instantly side with the Moslems to oppose them — just as they suicidally did during the time of the Crusades.

    The sad summation of it all, is that the Jews don’t actually want Israel, but they don’t want anyone else to have it either. I don’t think highly of people with that kind of attitude.

  8. Not a single Israeli Cabinet member attended the forum. Overturning the obsolete two state paradigm will require changing public opinion. The truth is there is no peace to be had on partition principles with the Palestinian Arabs on any reasonable terms.

  9. Without sovereignty, Israel will become a stagnant ghetto- with no room for growth, no future for its younger generations. Even now, young Israeli people are complaining that they cannot afford to live in Israel, and sadly many have had to move away in order to make a life, have a home and raise children. It is a terrible sacrifice. This is tragic. Then of course, there is the reality that the land is geographically designed and arranged to provide security from invasion. I am very happy to see a group is now forming to promote the cause. We have to determine our out destiny, and not allow others, foreigners to do it for us. That would be an anathema to the Jewish people and Jewish nation.