Hamas member claims offer was not discussed with any of the Gaza factions; armed wing promises to intensify fight.
Ynet reporters
While Israel’s security cabinet decided to accept the Egyptian ceasefire initiative on Tuesday morning, Hamas’ armed wing rejected the offer completely, saying it was “a surrender” to Israel.
Yisrael Beiteinu chairman, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, voted against accepting the ceasefire proposal, as did Bayit Yehudi leader Naftali Bennett. Voting in favor of the offer were Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, Finance Minister Yair Lapid, Justice Minister Tzipi Livni and ministers Gilad Erdan and Yitzhak Aharonovich.
The ceasefire started at 9am Israel local time, in effect bringing Operation Protective Edge to an end after 8 days. However, Hamas has yet to agree to the truce.
Egyptian paper Al-Youm Al-Sabee purported to publish the details of the deal on Monday night. According to the report in Arabic, Israel will stop its aerial and naval attacks on Gaza, specifically refraining from any ground incursion into the Strip.
Hamas for their part will rein in the Palestinian factions, and work to put an end to all types of attacks on Israel, including by rockets, sea or even underground tunnels; specifically attacks on civilians and the border region between Gaza and Israel.
According to the report, the two sides also agreed to increase the flow of goods into Gaza, as well as the gradual opening of the crossings into Gaza, in return for calm. However, further details regarding security arrangements are still supposed to be discussed.
“If the offer is what was reported, then this is surrender. We’ll intensity our fight against the enemy,” the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades said in a statement.
Hamas spokesman Fauzi Barhum said that the Egyptian ceasefire offer was unacceptable.
“A ceasefire without an agreement is out of the question. During a war, you don’t hold your fire and only then start negotiating,” he said.
Hamas political bureau member Ezzat Rishq claimed that the Egyptian initiative was not discussed with Hamas, Islamic Jihad or one of the other factions in the Strip.
Hamas official Osama Hamdan added the Egyptian initiative was a “joke.”
“We did not receive this declared paper from the Egyptians … which means it’s an initiative for the media. It’s not a political initiative,” he told CNN.
The initiative was meant to “push the Palestinians into a corner and aid the Israelis.”
Coalition criticism
Members of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s own coalition, including some from his own Likud party, slammed the ceasefire offer as “capitulation” on Monday night.
Deputy Security Minister Danny Danon (Likud) voiced disapproval of the Egyptian brokered ceasefire proposal saying, “A ceasefire is a slap in the face for the Israeli people.”
Likud MK Miri Regev also responded to the reports on the deal, saying, “I call on the prime minister not to agree to a ceasefire and to make a military decision that will weaken Hamas through action in the air, land and sea.”
According to her, “This window of opportunity won’t return and any ceasefire with Hamas will allow the organization to return to power.”
Economy Minister Naftali Bennett called the proposal “good for Hamas and bad for Israel… A cease-fire at the present time shows the government’s weakness.”
“A cease-fire now will create a bigger campaign against the south of the country and more rocket attacks in another year.”
MK Ayelet Shaked, from the Bayit Yehudi, also responded to reports of the pending deal and said, “A ceasefire that does not harm tunnels and rockets is capitulation.”
World support
World leaders and the Israeli left spoke in support of the ceasefire.
US President Barack Obama praised the proposal, telling Muslim-Americans that he’s hopeful that the plan can restore calm in the wake of a deadly wave of violence.
“We’re going to continue to do everything we can to facilitate a return to the 2012 cease-fire,” Obama said at a White House dinner celebrating the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.
At the same time, Obama said the US has been “very clear that Israel has the right to defend itself” against an onslaught of rockets being launched indiscriminately by militants from Gaza into Israel. He also lamented the death and injury of Palestinian civilians in Gaza during Israel’s military response to quell the rockets, urging that civilians be protected and warning against further escalation by either side.
“More broadly, the situation in Gaza reminds us, again, that the status quo is unsustainable,” Obama said. “The only path to true security is a just and lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians.”
Quartet Representative Tony Blair said Monday that he welcomed “the statement from Egypt calling on the parties to implement a ceasefire to give a chance for a proper, full and long-term solution to Gaza to be put in place.
“Such a ceasefire can halt the tragic loss of life, stop the rockets on Israel – and open up the possibility of a genuine change in Gaza.
“But as I have said throughout this latest crisis, the only long-term solution that makes sense is one that gives hope to the people of Gaza; and one which gives Israel real and permanent security from rocket attacks, tunnels and terrorism,” he said.
Meretz Chairwoman MK Zahava Gal-On voiced support for the ceasefire proposal in comments made on Channel 2 News in which she encouraged Netanyahu to make “the right choice”.
MK Ilan Gilon, also from Meretz, stated that, “The ceasefire is a tactical achievement and at the moment we must build a permanent solution.” According to him, “The solution in Gaza must go through Ramallah. It’s up to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to call on Palestinian President Abu Mazen to return to peace talks.”
Gilon praised residents of southern Israel saying, “Hugs to my sisters and brothers in the south for the responsibility, restraint and solidarity.”
Roi Kais, Attila Somfalvi, Yitzhak Benhorin, Meir Ohayon, Eli Senyor and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
@ the phoenix:
BB just fired Danon for reminding him of his old BS demagogic rhetoric.(See Clip #46) 🙂 What BB was doing to Olmert in 2009 Danon and others are doing to him. That’s Israeli politics 101.
@ the phoenix:
Israel Accepts UN Request for Six-Hour ‘Humanitarian Ceasefire’
Hamas yet to respond to request from UN envoy
Robert Serry. Ceasefire to begin tomorrow. 🙁
Some 450 Olim arrive this week from France, England. ‘We preferred leaving,’ says one immigrant from France, ‘We feel we’re home’
French immigrants in Israel: ‘Situation became unbearable’ 🙂
In this 2009 video, Bibi Netanyahu tells us how to defeat Hamas in Gaza.
Bibi knew back then what needed to be done.
So why isn’t PM Netanyahu listening to his younger self?
Maybe someone can send this video his way.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRfQJGzNF4Y
rsklaroff Said:
For that yawl get a big hug and kiss from the this Cowgirl, Darlin I can’t speak for Avigail.
I agree with Avigail and honeybee, and I disagree with NormanF.
NormanF Said:
My Blessed Grandmother had intelligence, courage and honor when she , at great personal peril, left Poland to come to the USA for the sake of her generations to come !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ rsklaroff:
I was talking about Netanyahu, even if it goes for Clinton too.
@ Avigail: CORRECT! [“Camp David II” emerged shortly thereafter which, although Arafat showed his true-colors–presaging Abbas–by walking away, this triggered concerted efforts to woo the PA while Barak was in-control.]
@ rsklaroff:
at the expense of the Israeli people, you forgot to add.
He has survived efforts by BHO to undermine his leadership, just as Clinton had successfully accomplished ~15 years ago.
@ rsklaroff:
I do not see any salutary effects at all.
He has raped every tenet ever learnt about defense and war. He has blocked every piece of legislation meant to eliminate the nefarious influence of foreign NGO’s. Blocked the Judge Levi Report. Lied there and anon about building of Jewish villages. Destroyed hundreds of Jewish farms, homes and families.
We can continue for much more on his disastrous tenure.
Militarily. Pray tell me which enemy has he taken down?
The farce in Gaza is a repeat from 2012.
He is a dud all around. With a TV face and good speechwriters.
Please list what are his real positives.
With all due respect to the unanimity of opinion that has emerged among these comments, might anyone please note the salutary effects of BB’s actions?
@ the phoenix:
Can yawl still BB the finger????????????
@ honeybee:
Well since the first item on the list, is no longer an item on the list…. And the second was never on the list…it is not too bad…
😉
the phoenix Said:
Not good for a dentist or a fiddler.
honeybee Said:
No kidding!!!!!
I have let a rock fall on my finger a few hours ago. 🙁
What hurts the most, is that I have been kicking myself for this stupid careless move….
Now even the cat that usually keeps me company outside, couldn’t be bothered anymore…
i think he heard my rumblings more than once.
Or twice…
Or….
🙂
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
Alex v’hatzlach!
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Then north toward Raton turn West and travel up the Cimarron Canyon to Taos. The canyon is the site of many of the famous paintings of NM.
@ the phoenix:
Meeting early next week. Equipment in storage and cannot be set up any earlier.
@ honeybee:
I have not been there for over 30 years…
I do have plans, if all goes well, to take a spin there sometime early next year… 🙂
the phoenix Said:
Better be careful with that “serendipity” when rambling around your stream.
@ yamit82:
A few years ago, serendipity has brought me to the IP blog.
Today i have learned of the Jewish fist blog.
Thank you.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Last night I watch a program called “Longmire” about a sheriff in Wyo., but its filmed in Eastern NM near Springer and Las Vegas. Last the show was film in Cimarron Canyon. I thought of you, have you ever been through Cimarron Canyon in the Fall? We go through on our way to Angel Fire and Red River.
@ NormanF:
Most of them are talking on TV lying to the hilt about doing their jobs.
Mark my words.
They will never do it there or against Iran or Hezbollah or anyone else.
Woe to anyone that trusts that filth.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Besos. I am sure with 7,000 miles of separation your wife won’t mind.
@ NormanF:
Nothing different can be expected from the demented, cowardly, traitor.
And far worse is on his sick mind for soon after.
@ honeybee:
Thank you ! It is an honors to be in your good list
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
Silvan Shalom. The POS ordered Israel’s Electric Corporation to reconnect the power to Gaza. G-d must have a sense of humor because Hamas again did what the treacherous knaves in Israel’s government refuse to do: cut the power to Gaza!
@ NormanF:
NormanF Said:
My Father and his brothers had honor. Yamit82, phoenix, HaLevi, Keelie, Ross and dweller have honor. I, even I half Viking that I am have honor. Console yourself: http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Psalms&chapter=91&verse=1
I use the King James version because I like the English of that period. Yamit82 know how to find the Hebrew version.
@ yamit82:
indeed!
Dear yamit,
A few days ago, shmuel posted the following comment, which, as a parent with eyes open wide, is not difficult to understand and agree:
Bernard Ross offered a similar thought elsewhere and many of us share the indignation to this obscenity.
With that as a (long) introduction, I’ll cut straight to the chase.
The answer, as we all seem to agree, is as shmuel repeatedly says to ‘get rid of the combina’.
But,
On the thread ‘put the lawyers on front line’, you explained the following:
@ yamit82:
The above block quotes I am sure, are representing only the tip of the iceberg.
There is wishful thinking, and then there is reality…
The late rabbi kahane was put in jail (!!!!) while zoabi and tibi are slithering freely AND get paid. This is a “Jewish 1984″… 🙁
When I am pointing these things out, your reply is +/- “it is better to live in a town in Israel where there are few Jews than a town in galut that is predominantly Jewish”…
So is THIS the answer?
@ honeybee:
Arabs have honor. Jews have none. They think the lives of their own children are worth nothing and they refuse to avenge them.
Would you consent to a ceasefire with such a treacherous and cowardly people? The problem is not the Arabs. The problem is Jewish irresoluteness in the face of evil.
NormanF Said:
What about Rueben???????
@ yamit82:
I keep thinking of Simeon and Levi. And Pinchas the Zealot. The Prophet Samuel. They all sanctified G-d’s Name.
Israel’s leaders have nothing but contempt for them and G-d. They personify baseness, cynicism, amorality, treachery and deceit. You cannot believe what passes from their lips.
@ Eric R.:
I agree with you at the very real risk of losing Yamit82 love forever and be un-invited to HaLevi’s BBQ.
Obscene Defined
by Daniel Ben-Shmuel
When the welfare of the Arab hyenas of Gaza are given priority over Jewish lives.
When said animals have their electricity funded by us, even as they continue rain rockets on our heads.
When these beasts receive medical care in Soroka Hospital.
When Israel sends humanitarian trucks filled with food and medical supplies to those who are trying to murder us.
When Netanyahu talks of repercussions for Hamas and then sends flyers to alert these animals to flee their homes.
When Netanyahu has the airforce bomb abandoned warehouses.
When mamlachti Rabbis turn histrionic, distort the Halacha and call for the death penalty against Jews who may or may not have killed an arab in retaliation for the murder of three Jewish boys.
When the murder of three Jewish boys remains unavenged.
When chief rabbis speak of vengeance as an unjewish notion.
When Shimon Peres continues to make deals with the devil.
When the lives of Jewish soldiers are akin to pawns on a chessboard.
When G-d’s name is defiled by the Erev Rav leaders.
When Jews extoll the virtues of restraint and pure rifles.
When the eventual “ceasefire” is accepted, which still allows these animals to fire rockets at the helpless, abandoned Jews of the northwestern Negev.
Another day in Israel. Obscenity personified.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Further to my comment above, could you please update us on the ‘radio free Israel’?
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
Well, that I understood and it is axiomatic.
My (repeated) question, is, in view of your post #6, which gives a bit of an inside of what is going on over there , and behind the scenes, does it look like ‘other choices’ might become available (due to his removal from office), or, is it yet ANOTHER wishful comment by one of the commentators on ip?
@ the phoenix:
No. Netanyahu will betray no matter what. Only his and his cadre removal from office may open other choices.
The bastard in chief has spoken…
Yesh mevin?
🙂
SHmuel HaLevi 2 Said:
WOW!!!
Would there be room then for some cautious optimism?
@ NormanF:
Norman, I just read a very interesting article in walla news (do they not have an english version as well? I think it would be extremely enlightening for the rest of the ip forum )
The title is “why is zahal portrayed as the most villain army in the world”
The bottom line:
Being a Jewish army. And what Jews themselves represent I.e. the global hatred of the world is towards JUDAISM .
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
You know as well as I do, people get the kind of government they deserve. If the Jewish people don’t rise up to demand victory, they will have learned nothing and forgotten everything.
Who remembers the Bourbons? People not willing to get rid of those who betray them should not be surprised when they are repaid with it so to speak, to their face.
@ NormanF:
Likud insiders informed me a short while ago that the vast majority has had it with Erdan, Ya’alon and the Netanyahu. They said that Netanyahu has NOT, repeat, NOT abandoned his betrayal plans at all. Some believe he has really lost it. Gone totally insane.
Also moments ago I received for the first time a plea to activate RADIO FREE ISRAEL transmitters to call for a public rebellion to remove the renegade trash from government.
Regrettably, the station is boxed away and not with me so it will take a few days to re locate it.
The degree of fury against the unJewish filth can reach levels unknown to us.
@ NormanF:
Now confirmed on JPost. Hebrew sites broke the news first:
http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/IDF-resumes-air-strikes-in-Gaza-362871
Israel’s “restraint” appears to be over.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Apparently the ceasefire is over, Israel struck Gaza and no one in Israel wants a ceasefire apart from Netanyahu and the Left. They have badly misjudged the national mood. Unless they act decisively to uproot Hamas, they will pay the price.
@ Eric R.:
I’m inclined to agree with you. He does seem to be something of a poker player — more poker than chess. (Begin was just the reverse.)
Still, I can’t escape the uneasy feeling that he could wind up outsmarting himself. . . .
Come on, folks, this was all theater. Bibi accepted knowing (probably through intelligence) that Hamas wouldn’t. He looks good, and he makes al-Sisi look good, which to him also matters (plus those two big impending gas deals, remember). Will the Jew-haters in the Islamic world, Europe and the UN change their genocidal Jew-hatred? No, of course not. He’s not playing to them; he’s playing to a few key leaders – Obama (ugh!), Merkel, Cameron, Putin, Modi, and whatever faceless bureaucrat is running China these days.
Sorry NormanF,
I just read the latest utterances from the mentally defective inmate posing as a leader. The item is far worse than a traitorous coward, he is insane and we are collectively insane if we accept the demented item’s and his associates words or actions anymore. The barrage from Hamas and slow rate firings from the North do not represent an exit salvo but a show of force which Netanyahu intentionally walked us all into.
A call for a popular uprising to get the renegades ensemble out of government is mandatory and urgent.
Anything else is suicidal.
People, please get that garbage OUT!
Netanyahu is betting Hamas will stand down. It will not want to anger Egypt.
It can shoot more rockets but is short of real military options. Hamas is looking to save face and shooting a flurry of more rockets will allow it to save face, which is important on the Arab Street.
But its not the victory they had sought – apart from being able to live and fight another day.