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  1. But they aren’t.

    What made you imagine otherwise?

    Shy, I can always hope and pray and with some wishful thinking, just maybe. Miracles do happen and it may take a miracle for them to wake up.
    I do believe in miracles.

  2. rongrand says:
    June 1, 2010 at 12:03 pm

    Time has come for liberal American Jews to step up to the plate and let this president (impostor) and administration know they are in full support of Israel.

    But they aren’t.

    What made you imagine otherwise?

  3. Now is the time to show unequivocal support for Israel. Plenty of time to dissect the errors later.

    This is very important. Time has come for liberal American Jews to step up to the plate and let this president (impostor) and administration know they are in full support of Israel.

    If in fact the Turks wanted to provide humanitarian aid to Gaza the Israelis provides means to do so without direct entry into Gaza harbor.

    This was an act of aggression by the flotilla and Israel has every right to blockade Gaza by the sea.

    I hope the PM does not meet with Obama. BHO is beginning to loose grip on the Jewish vote and is trying to regain support. He is hoping to regain some of this support by meeting with Netanyahu.

  4. Last I heard meeting with big O is off.

    I can agree up to a point with the concept of my country right or wrong but I never heard of a concept of my PM and DM right or wrong.

    Not to criticize and oppose them makes us complicit along with them when they formulate and implement policies, strategies and behavior dangerously inimical to the State (the 3rd Jewish commonwealth). Those of good conscience should never remain silent and hope or pray for the best.

    If we can’t inject the fear of G-d in them then at least the fear of us as a second option.

  5. SarahSue says:
    June 1, 2010 at 7:54 am

    But, as Ted said, there is a time for criticism and a time to rally around a friend. Now is the time to show unequivocal support for Israel. Plenty of time to dissect the errors later.

    No. These “errors” are killing us – politically and literally.

  6. I agree with Yamit.

    But, as Ted said, there is a time for criticism and a time to rally around a friend. Now is the time to show unequivocal support for Israel. Plenty of time to dissect the errors later.

    Israel was born from kings and princes. She has a strong history of defeating her foes. God willing, she will do again this soon.

    One day the present government of Israel will see that appeasement of her enemies is a losing game. She needs to be strong and do what is right for her, and her critics be damned.

    I do not know if Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is going to meet President Obama or not. The news media does not know either. If Netanyahu does meet Obama, I hope and pray that more concessions are not on the table. I hope that Netanyahu grows some balls and says ‘No’.

    Felix, shut up, you jackass.

  7. You are an imbecile and even worse than being an imbecile I believe that you have become demented, even if the signs of demented senility were well present some time ago for the acute Yamit82 observer and student!

    Well then Felix I think there be many readers of Israpundit that might agree with your assessment of me.

    Whether I am demented and senile is secondary to the veracity of my opinions and statements.

    Can you refute any of my contentions and predictions? Can you show, not state, my opinions without substance and merit? If yes, the please go ahead. So far all I’ve heard from you are mostly commie talking points easily refuted by history and common sense. An understanding of Human nature alone destroys most of your hypotheses.

    I predicted that a war will break out that I believe will involve the use of nukes and that Europe and especially Spain will not be spared.

    Whether you then revert to your old time religion or not, this I am sure of: a prayer to Trotsky won’t do you any good will it?

    You Yamit82 are on that track, but there IS something inherently evil in you, because I sense that you are taking some pleasure in seeing a Nuclear Conflagration from out of which nothing will emerge.

    inherently evil? Last time I looked the Jews never murdered others in the tens and even hundreds of Millions, Muslims have, Christians have and Commies have. Jews? not many by comparison and most were in defense or revenge.
    Jews are quite stupid but few could compare to the evil of Christians, Muslims and Commies.

    If that is your perspective my little mad Jewish man

    one out of four is not bad for a follower of Trotsky: I’m not yours, not little in any sense and not mad (evil) maybe? I am though definitely Jewish.

    then I suggest we all have a little word with Ted Belman, ask Ted to please close down Israpundit, BECAUSE WITH THE PERSPECTIVE OF YAMIT82 WHAT IS THE POINT!!!

    I’ll let Ted answer for himself.

    You will remain in my mind as one of the most extraordianry bullshitters of all time.

    Or in other words Go F… yourself and leave the rest of humanity out of your nihilistic and dead end posturing and !”

    I’ve noticed you have given me and my comments plenty of space on your blog. Really flattered Felix that you have spent so much of your blog space to me and my comments and opinions so I guess I am constantly on your mind, I must say though Felix you aren’t my type, I prefer the other gender who are preferably not Marxists of any stripe..

    I told you humanity is an abstract concept meaningless sophistry and I am surely not nihilistic. I have values and beliefs, love life and hate poverty especially if it’s my own. I just do not believe in being your experimental rat.
    We Jews are our G-d’s experimental mice.

  8. “Propaganda for whom” Yamit82 says.

    You are an imbecile and even worse than being an imbecile I believe that you have become demented, even if the signs of demented senility were well present some time ago for the acute Yamit82 observer and student!

    If Nuclear War is all that is on offer to humanity then what is the point in anything. Why go on? Why not all collectively end it right now, because it is acknowledged that there is enough arms in existence to end life on earth, never mind just human life.

    You have been driven into madness by your religion.

    I remember growing up in Ireland there was a neighbour who got religion real bad, and the poor guy went quite mad (an evangelical type sect actually) , I was too young to understand the meaning of depression etc, but he was taken to a sanatorium from where he never did emerge.

    You Yamit82 are on that track, but there IS something inherently evil in you, because I sense that you are taking some pleasure in seeing a Nuclear Conflagration from out of which nothing will emerge.

    If that is your perspective my little mad Jewish man then I suggest we all have a little word with Ted Belman, ask Ted to please close down Israpundit, BECAUSE WITH THE PERSPECTIVE OF YAMIT82 WHAT IS THE POINT!!!

    You will remain in my mind as one of the most extraordianry bullshitters of all time.

    Or in other words Go F… yourself and leave the rest of humanity out of your nihilistic and dead end posturingand !”

  9. Propaganda for whom. Those that hate Israel after seeing this clip will intensify their efforts. Looks too easy to destroy Israel.

    Facts never turned an antisemite into a Jew lover and those who at this point don’t know I assume don’t care either and won’t begin to care if they see this clip.

    I think a nuclear war will occur within the next 2 years. My advice is to get the hell out of Spain, try the far east or S America. Europe should bear some of the major brunt of the nuclear attacks and fallout.

    When all hell is unleashed your commie ideology won’t save you and you will revert back to your Catholic roots

  10. Israelis imagine that they could withdraw behind the Green Line, and then adopt no-holds-barred policy against the Palestinian intrusions. Presumably, the land behind the Green Line is Jewish, we won’t concede it to anyone, and would fight the guerrillas to death. That’s a soothing lie. Jews already gave away that land to burgeoning numbers of Arab Israelis. It matters not whether the West Bank Palestinians encroach on the Jewish state from without, or Israeli Palestinians encroach on her from within. If the West Bank Palestinians take over Israel, Jews would be reduced to non-sovereign minority. When the Israeli Arabs breed enough, the Jewish sovereignty would be similarly extinguished. Israel makes sense as a Jewish state; as a place which merely allows the Jews to live in, she has no advantages over the US, and plenty of disadvantages.
    If Israelis would strenuously oppose Arab cross-border attacks over the Green Line, why not oppose them now? If Israel is capable of crushing the Palestinian insurgency, why withdraw at all instead of crushing the Arab resistance and expanding? Passive security never worked. No nation could hide behind its borders for long. Only active defense, willing to pursue the enemy in his turf, works. Passive defense won’t work for Israel like it didn’t work for the settlements. Fenced Israel would provoke the attacks just as the fenced settlements do. The line between offense and pro-active defense is blurred. If Israel is capable of either, why withdraw?

    The Bible promises the nation of Israel a huge country from the Nile to the Euphrates. Such a country was unsustainable and utterly unnecessary for Jews in antiquity. “From the Nile” includes Sinai, but even Egypt didn’t govern the Sinai in times of old except for a narrow strip. The Promised Land was a technical impossibility and a burden to maintain. The land wasn’t prized, but consisted of deserts and steppes. If you were bent on seducing Hebrews with a promise, a takeover of Egypt would be much more attractive.

    Only in the late twentieth century did we understand the rationale behind the Promised Land.

    Israel critically needs the Sinai for depth of defense against Islamist Egypt. If not for Sinai and the Negev, the initial thrust of the Yom Kippur war would have drowned the Jews in the sea. Now that Egypt has acquired missiles and cutting-edge aircraft, the depth of defense the Sinai affords to the Jewish state becomes all the more important.

    The Promised Land includes the state of Lebanon. Jews so far have failed to realize the commandment and conquer that land, driving the ever-fighting Lebanese tribes away to Syria—and the Lebanese tribes have proved to be a perpetual source of trouble for Jewish Galilee.

    Likewise with the Euphrates. The Jordanian monarchy won’t last long. The Palestinian majority will take over that desert state, and unable to create a viable economy there, they will turn to nationalism and militancy. Jordan will become a huge Gaza, rife with terrorist training camps. Jordanians will extend their influence to those Arabs whom Israel failed to expel in violation of the commandment, and they will become “a trap for you,” “a sore in your eye,” and “masters over you.” In order to establish security, Israel would have no choice but to extend toward the Euphrates, relocating the hostile Arabs to Iraq.

    As if prompting Israel to fulfill the commandment, the strong and militant state of Iraq was invaded for no reason and destroyed; now the way for relocating Palestinians and Jordanians is cleared.

    Israel also needs a huge territory to disperse her population. The hi-rise buildings in Israeli cities will become a death trap in a major earthquake, and Israel is located on two lines of tectonic activity. Jews must live in light, single-story houses. Dispersing the population is also the best way to avoid or mitigate an Islamic nuclear strike. Pakistan, besieged by the Islamists, has an unknown number of nuclear bombs, probably more than fifty. Saudi Arabia likely hoards some of the Pakistani nukes in return for financing its nuclear program. Iran, Egypt, Libya, Algeria, and Morocco have the critical know-how in nuclear technologies, and North Korea stands ready to help them. There is absolute certainty that Islamic terrorists will lay their hands on nuclear weapons fairly soon. Crude nukes are not that apocalyptic: a primitive bomb detonated at the ground level in Tel Aviv would kill something like 10,000 Jews, a sorrowful but statistically insignificant number. Looking at Nagasaki, the long-term effects of nuclear bombing are also tolerable. So instead of panicking, Jews should disperse into a single-story society interconnected by the latest communication networks rather than Tel Aviv’s promenades.

    That’s why we need the Promised Land in its entirety.

    Note:

    Jerusalem was central for Christian consciousness for centuries. Now most Christians are willing to concede Jerusalem to Jews or Muslims. After some time, Muslims could grow similarly indifferent to Jerusalem. Alternatively, Christians could become more interested in the city. Only a few decades ago, Jerusalem was meant to be an international city. If Jews show the weakness of dividing Jerusalem with Muslims now, Christians will kick both Jews and Muslims out and put the city under control of international organizations. Religion did not go away from foreign policy.

  11. Don’t ever forget this ONE REALITY:

    God created the entire earth and the whole world was created by Him and therefore, all nations and lands belong to Him.

    It’s funny how the world thinks it can muscle around one tiny piece of land when it is the whole world that belongs to the God of Israel.

    God created no borders. Man created borders. The only borders God commanded was in the Torah where Israel inherited just one tiny piece of land, telling the whole world, this is ISRAEL’S INHERITANCE.

    But how the world has treated Israel God will treat them.

  12. israel’s borders will be in danger as long as we do not accept ourselves our legitimacy on the entire land of israel from the sinai to the euphrat – turn it as you want and wish whatever wish you want, but there will be no peace as long as G-d’s promis is not fulfilled