Neta Sela, YNET
“For the first time in the history of the Jewish nation, a situation has arisen in which the ruling party (Kadima) is willing to offer Jerusalem’s most precious parts to the worst of our enemies,” Opposition Leader Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday.
Speaking at a conference of Mossad Harav Kook in Jerusalem, the Likud chairman said, “this is not only a political failure, but it also jeopardizes our security. It is a fundamental moral failure in the national, Jewish and religious sense.”
During the conference, which focused on the morality of Israel’s leaders, Netanyahu said “Jerusalem was destroyed a number of times, taken away from our nation, conquered – but the Jewish nation has never abandoned the city; it fought for it time and time again. Jews throughout the generations were scattered all over, in this and that ghetto, and recited the words ‘Next year in Jerusalem’. The Israeli nation has never given up on its capital.”
Netanyahu also called to instill Jewish tradition through the public education system “in order to preserve our country, and, first and foremost, Jerusalem.
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“I am willing to die for this, and I’m certain you are as well. This faith and devotion will be upheld forever. Hold your heads high, be proud of our tradition and safeguard Jerusalem,”
An aide to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said in response “Netanyahu incited against (slain prime minister) Yitzhak Rabin, then against (President) Shimon Peres and (Defense Minister Ehud) Barak, and now he is inciting against Olmert and Kadima.
“He knows full well that the issue of Jerusalem was never raised in the negotiations with the Palestinians,” the source said.
Shy Guy; In all the years Feiglin has been pursuing his gambit I have ye to t him impacting or influencing the likud to honor their own platform. How many years has it been now 10? 12 ? enough is enough it isn’t the 70 shekels it is the Likud. At least Meretz seems true to her principles. Benny Elon took Gandhi’s ideological small party and turned it into a private Yeshiva, thereby driving all the original supporters out in the wilderness. If it wasn’t for Eldad Benny would have been thrown to the wolves as well. Elon has shown himself to have all of the negative traits we ascribe to BB except for the kippa. For the forseeable future The non observant right (ideological) must lead as they are the majority and have less of the social stigma the religious right has.
This of course is not my preference just my personal read of our political choices that are best described as optimal.
Narvey:
Correct but one can make a similar argument about EU, America and Canada. This is not just an Israeli Arab problem this is whether we all like it or not a religious war fought in different ways and on many levels extending over hundreds of years of historical time lines.. RELIGIOUS WAR, RELIGIOUS WAR, RELIGIOUS WAR!! maybe the truth will sink in eventually?? I doubt it!!!
Fact of the matter is that Mahigut’s presence in the Likud has convinced old-timers not to leave and some that quit in disgust to come back.
Now if we’d all stop squabbling, for the 70 shekel annual membership, the Likud could be overwhelmed with good people of all backgrounds who will not give Netanyahu, Livnat, Shalom, and Dayan the time of day.
Yes but Manhigut has been calling on us all for years, not for Eldad’s go-it-alone been-there-done-that 6 months. Eldad fits in perfectly with the Likud’s charter and official platform.
Shy Guy, While BB and his fellow invertebrates, killed the real power of the likud central committee, most of Feiglins power from within has be nullified. Add to that membership requirement to vote in any likud forum I forget 1 or is it 2 years, after joining; any new members will not substantially help Feiglin in the coming elections. I may have my facts wrong so feel free to correct.
I could make the same argument that if everybody rallied around Eldad we could attain the same result and with out what is it now 100 million shekel debt that the likud has carried over from past elections. I think hypothetically that were Feiglin to ever reach a really threatening position in the Likud most Likudniks would jump ship to 3rd parties or form a new party and leve Feiglin with small strength and a heavy debt.. How much is the name likud worth today?
Shy Guy:
You either abandon the business at a total loss and imagine what it’s like to remain unemployed the rest of your life.
While all of this Company reorganization is taking place , You have lost most if not all of your customer base. They need to be serviced now, tomorrow, or soon otherwise we cause them to have financial difficulties. Your suggestion is thus only good in theory not in application.
The divisiveness of Israeli leaders and society prevents the country and their leaders to come together to see that as regards the Palestinians/Arabs, Israel really is in an us or them position.
So long as Israel continues to bend to the international will that has persisted in their johnny one note two state peace paradigm, Israel is faced with trying to share land into which two nations do not fit.
It is like a woman bending to the will of fashion and buying great looking shoes that are too tight. It hurts to get them on, it hurts more to walk in them and the damage that could be done to their foot, if they continue to walk in them could prevent them from walking altogether.
You either abandon the business at a total loss and imagine what it’s like to remain unemployed the rest of your life.
Or you realize the value and recoverability of the company’s assets and place oversite and limits on the re-appointed manager. You also get enough support behind you to have people of integrity start taking up seats on the company board of directors so that the shennanigans don’t recur.
Recovery requires the investment time and dedication. If you want a quick buck, spend a day at the races.
Absolutely. You have seen every inky-dinky “right” party fall to the wayside, including Elon, Hendel, Raful, Eitam, Marzel, Eidelberg and soon Eldad. Every last one of them was about “me, me, me” and their pronounced goals of unity are exactly what Manhigut Yehudit has been calling for already for years.
The whole idea about getting the Likud to do something so elementary as to return to its very own party platform is about “us, us, us”. The economy of scales awaiting “us, us, us” in the Likud, with the ever increasing support of the party’s own Central Comittee members (who overwhelmingly voted against the Likud leaders thanks only to Manhigut Yehudit in the past years), is to united everyone, religious, traditional, secular, under the single roof which already exists where all of them will feel at home.
If we Jewish Israelis would stop bickering between ourselves, we could go in force into the Likud, yes, holding our noses, while we clean it up and make the place breathable again. Even if Netanyahu still headed it, he would be stymied by his own party this time around and he’d no longer have a next time to toy with us.
But if you insist on imaging that your pipe dream of having everything will come with sunrise tomorrow, go ahead. Vote for Eldad, a complete secularist. Yeh. He’ll save us. All 2 mandates of him – if he’s lucky. Hit me again.
Ted two problems first is in the form of a question: You employed X. X betrayed your trust when while in your employ he liquidated several business bank accts. when you found out about the theft, too late to recover any of the contents of those accts. and of course you fired this criminal employee and he spent time incarcerated. he paid is societal debt, but not one owed to you he still took your money.X upon his release approaches you to get his old job back or a least a recommendation so he can get one elsewhere. What do you do?
Shy Guy and I reflect the exact weakness of the right. He must if he supports Feiglin vote likud and I see the Likud and BB as the root of all evil. Our common aims and those who support them have never been so undermined and trampled under by any government even the OSLO one as have been successive governments on the so called right. A vote for Likud and Feiglin is a Vote the real ideological right loses, diminishes their potential power and by default, thus BB and not Feiglin. A strong BB and likud = a weakened right of center. BB must have no option on the ideological right only the left. He can’t go there without most of the right for balance so he will have to move his positions in line accordingly. It is obvious that unless the right can coalesce and speak with one voice politically we will be so weakened and split that at best we will have more of the same and at worst have vacated the field and allowed the BB’s to have their way. It appears Egos will get in the way of the right coalescing. I can always hope though that at some point common aims will overcome personal ambitions. I still say if the Choice is BB I am content with Olmert. Who can guarantee that BB won’t be worse?
Ted, you’re right. Unless Israel miraculously wakes up and smells the coffee, i.e., realizes that Netanyahu never did and will not save Israel’s behind at the expense of his own, then he will likely be the next PM. But I will do whatever little I can to work against him, not with him, as long as it takes. Some of us want to stop going around in circles.
yamit, Shy Guy: Ted still doesn’t get it and won’t listen to me; please speak to him.
There is nobody but Bibi to win the next election. We must work with what we got.
He is a hypocrite! His brother died for us,and now he is a scumbag! I would spit on him in the streets of Jerusalem. Anyone who has the remote idea for voting for him, needs their head examined!
I am well aware of your intentions and I wish Jews would heed the advice of Christian friends such as yourself.
Of all the nations that conquered Jerusalem, only two made the city their capital: the Jews, in modern times, and the Frankish Crusaders. The Crusaders held the city for several decades. They didn’t resume the Temple sacrifices, because they weren’t Jewish; but they had enough sense to claim the Temple Mount as their own, and put a cross on the Dome of the Rock.
Netanyahu or no, it looks like the Jews are on the verge of quitting the Holy City, allowing the Christians to prove themselves to be more zealous for the holy places than they are.
Typical Jewish weakness (smirk).
NOTE: This post is intended to provoke my flabby-spirited Jewish brethren to good works; but if they choose instead to accuse me of “Anti-Semitism”, and spin their wheels in yet another frutiless endeavor, that’s their prerogative. My mother wasn’t Jewish — I wash my hands.
Netanyahu has proven time and again that he is not and cannot be the leader who will safeguard the Land of Israel. He is still for a 2 state solution and is advocating building up the Arabs economically on the west bank. He believes in moderate Arabs and those he calls Moderates he calls partner.( moderate Arabs are those who kill moderately) Somebody better clue him in if he already really doesn’t know, that you cannot keep Jerusalem without J & S as well as the reverse. Some people learn from past mistakes most don’t, BB is one of those who don’t!!! Anybody but BB!!!
As to whether Netanyahu ever offered the Golan back to the Syrians, we may never know. But nothing surprises me any more.
This coming from the same guy who relinquished control of Hevron to “our worst enemies”, who shook hands with the leader of “our worst enemies”, who voted in favor of destroying the vibrant Jewish community of Gush Katif and expelling its Jews in order to hand it over to “our worst enemies”.
And thanks for Jerusalem, Netanyahu, but you have already announced your capitulation to expell almost 200,000 more Jews from Judea and Samaria, in order to provide a 2 state solution to “our worst enemies”.
Our worst enemies are Jews like Netanyahu, for because of them our other worst enemies are destroying us with the greatest of ease and the loudest of laughter.
Stupid Jews.