Secret Peace Talk Contents Revealed By PA Sources

US ‘offensive’ aims for Jan. interim agreement, Jerusalem internationally managed, Israeli withdrawals and ‘earned’ Jewishness.

By Ari Yashar, Arutz Sheva Staff

The Palestinian Authority (PA) negotiating team has revealed some of contents of the secretive peace talks it has been holding with Israel, under American auspices.

Independent journalist Baruch Yedid, who has maintained ongoing contact with official and unofficial PA sources, described to Arutz Sheva the situation taking place behind the smoke screen.

According to Yedid, talks are advancing with the goal of a framework agreement in January, well before the 9-month period set for talks.

Yedid’s sources reveal that the agreement includes long term Israeli withdrawals over the course of 5 to 10 years in a number of stages, including withdrawals from Judea, Samaria and the Jordan Valley.

Kerry to “force” a deal

Concerning Jerusalem, Yedid reveals that discussions revolve around proposals following the model of the Vatican, whereby the Old City and the Temple Mount would be a sort of autonomous region under joint international management, including Israeli and PA representatives.

The PA sources further confirm reports from last Friday stating that Kerry’s aids have rented 50 rooms in a Jerusalem hotel for January from which they plan to mount a diplomatic “attack” on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and force him to accept the American plan, part of which posits an Israeli security presence in the Jordan Valley for 10 years.

In addition to the 50 rooms, reports reveal the Americans have rented 2 or 3 stories in a luxury Jerusalem hotel. There, the crew reportedly will bring computerized equipment, maps and databases to aid their efforts in dictating outcomes of the talks.

This January “offensive” is timed for after the Christian holidays, and is reportedly hoped by the Americans to succeed by the end of the month.

“Earning” a Jewish state

Analyst Mark Langfan describes the plan as a “death-trap” for Israel. Langfan notes the plan doesn’t even meet the minimum “defensible” Israeli borders as determined by the US Joint Chiefs of Staff (USJCoS) in 1967, even according to military realities of that time.

The Arab League has so far followed PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’s lead in rejecting the plan.

The PA sources claim that Abbas’s official refusal to recognize Israel as the Jewish state stems from “concerns” that Israeli Arabs enjoying citizenship in Israel will be included as part of a Palestinian state. Abbas has already declared no Jews will be allowed in a future “Palestine.”

The proposed agreement would reportedly force Israel to obligate itself through guarantees that it will not compromise the status of Israeli Arabs, and in doing so begin “earning” PA recognition of Israel as the state of the Jews.

From the PA sources, Yedid relates that there is a serious gap between reality and what is happening behind closed doors in the negotiations, which apparently have not included direct talks in weeks.

Yedid further notes that the PA strategy has been to highlight how Hamas is against the planned agreement, making it easier for Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, who heads the Israel team in the talks, to present the agreement as an Israeli “success” and receive public approval.

In an additional insight into the PA’s strategy, Yedid discloses that PA leadership is against a final status agreement, reasoning that the time is not auspicious for such a deal. The US may feel obligated to compensate Israel over America’s flaunting of Israeli concern in the Iran nuclear deal, and the compensation may taker the form of an agreement that is unfavorable to the PA, the leadership thinks.

Therefore the PA appears to prefer an interim agreement, also reasoning that such an agreement would undermine Israel’s position in the world in granting legitimacy to PA claims on Israel, and further will divide Israel from within in arguments over the deal.

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  1. yamit82 Said:

    Dennis Prager

    Love Prager, I get him on the radio. Subscribe to his web site also. Great minds follow the same path!
    Hope your ass-sets are better?

  4. yamit82 Said:

    Sean Penn Sneaked Orthodox Prisoner Ostreicher Back to the US

    Changed my oppnion of him.
    yamit82 Said:

    In the last 30 hours in Israel…

    I f this is peace,what is war like.

  6. by Shoshana Bryen and published at the Algemeiner:

    In an interview with a Lebanese newspaper, the Palestinian Ambassador to Lebanon, Abdullah Abdullah, said: Palestinian refugees would not necessarily become citizens of any new Palestinian State. “They are Palestinians, that’s their identity. But … they are not automatically citizens. Even Palestinian refugees who are living in [refugee camps] inside the [then-Palestinian] state are still refugees. They will not be considered citizens.” He added that the new state would “absolutely not” issue Palestinian passports to refugees, lest they be understood to be citizens of Palestine. “When we have a state accepted as a member of the United Nations, this is not the end of the conflict. This is not a solution to the conflict. This is only a new framework that will change the rules of the game.”

    He who understands,… understands Yamit82

  7. The Most Damaging President We’ve Ever Had By: Dennis Prager

    I have been broadcasting for 31 years and writing for longer than that. I do not recall ever saying on radio or in print that a president is doing lasting damage to our country. I did not like the presidencies of Jimmy Carter (the last Democrat I voted for) or Bill Clinton. Nor did I care for the “compassionate conservatism” of George W. Bush. In modern political parlance “compassionate” is a euphemism for ever-expanding government. But I have never written or broadcast that our country was being seriously damaged by a president. So it is with great sadness that I write that President Barack Obama has done and continues to do major damage to America. The only question is whether this can ever be undone.

    Read more at: http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/opinions/the-most-damaging-president-weve-ever-had/2013/12/20/

  8. Sean Penn Sneaked Orthodox Prisoner Ostreicher Back to the US

    Jacob Ostreicher, an American entrepreneur and Orthodox Jew, was arrested in Bolivia in 2011 while overseeing a rice growing venture and held as a suspect in a money laundering investigation.

    Penn did something recently that blew my mind and, in the spirit of gratitude, I must acknowledge. Jacob Ostreicher is an American entrepreneur and Orthodox Jew who was arrested in Bolivia in 2011 while overseeing a rice growing venture and held as a suspect in a money laundering investigation. He spent 18 months in Bolivia’s Palmasola prison, an infamous complex described by The New York Times as ‘a squalid prison’ where Ostreicher claimed he was beaten and humiliated and had to pay off his jailers. Ostreicher was never formally charged with a crime and had been under house arrest until just days ago, that is, until Sean Penn stepped in and took on a cause for justice. The details of what transpired are minimal and sketchy at best, as is how Penn — who traveled to Bolivia on what he describes as a “humanitarian operation” — managed to sneak Ostreicher across a hostile border and into a safe and currently undisclosed location in the United States where he is reportedly receiving medical treatment with Penn by his side. What is known is that, as Bolivia now issues warnings calling for Ostreicher’s extradition, Sean Penn may have just played his greatest role to date — bona fide hero. And off-screen, no less.

  9. Shiloh Musings » Peace Prognosis: No Way By: Batya Medad

    BB and IDF do not consider the following Terror escalation.

    In the last 30 hours in Israel…
    A short time ago, a man was murdered. He was fixing a fence that separates Israel from Gaza and Palestinians opened fire on the civilian…and killed him.
    In the civilized world, that’s called cold-blooded murder. As a response – Israel told its civilians to stay away from the border fence…gee, there’s a great response.

    A police office was stabbed in the back last night by a Palestinian. Now, that might not be considered cold-blooded murderer…because thankfully, the man didn’t die but stabbing someone in the back…yeah, that’s cold and it’s also cowardly.

    A firebomb was thrown at an Israeli vehicle…

    A rocket was fired and crashed in Ashkelon, thankfully, no injuries.

    A mortar was fired from Gaza as well.

    A bomb was placed on a bus in Bat Yam…only a police officer attempting to defuse the bomb was injured…because the passengers noticed a suspicious object and told the bus driver. He quickly evacuated the bus…likely saving his own life and that of his 12 passengers.

    Arabs attempted to attack/stab guards near the Mishor Adumim checkpoint – the guards noticed that the Arabs were armed and took action, capturing the Arabs while avoiding injury.

    Are we supposed to be panicking? I’m glad that the IDF is responding, but our Government should do more. It should send the American “facilitators,” aka US Secretary of State Kerry and crew packing. This is no time for negotiations. Peace will not be achieved any time in the near future. By consistently ignoring the Arab terrorist policy we just encourage them and cause more terrorism. Their mentality is that of a sociopath, no conscience, no concept that the terrorism is unacceptable. so·ci·o·path?s?s???paTH/noun1. a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience. And why should the Arabs think terrorism is unacceptable when the world accepts them and tells us to offer gestures of “reconciliation” for “peace

    I hold that BB is the real sociopath. Yamit82

  10. Lapid Stages Slight Comeback in Polls

    Yair Lapid’s Yesh Atid party would win 14 Knesset seats if elections were held today, compared with 11 in a poll in November, according to the Hebrew-language Walla! website. The increased strength is attributed to recent bills on more rights for homosexuals that Yesh Atid has sponsored, although they not yet been passed into law. The results still show Lapid is far from returning to his present Knesset representation of 19 Knesset Members. The poll gave the Jewish Home party 11 seats, one less than it now holds in the Knesset, while Shas would nine seats, two less than it now holds. Shas is holding its own better than expected since the recent death of the party founder and spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef. Party chairman Aryeh Deri and his predecessor Eli Yishai are in in a power struggle that could divide the party.

  12. Israel To Ask For Negotiating Extension

    Fearing a protracted stalemate will prompt Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to publicly blame Israel for the failure of the peace process, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will ask Secretary of State Kerry to extend the negotiating deadline of May 2014 by an additional year when Kerry returns to Jerusalem in January. According to Israel Hayom, the Israeli negotiating team and Kerry have failed to convince the Palestinians to budge from their positions regarding Israeli security in the Jordan Valley; territorial concessions in and around major settlement blocs; Jerusalem; and recognition of Israel as a Jewish state.

  13. There is always a price to pay, for everything. Since the price to pay for any agreement, or non-agreement, will have to be paid by the Israeli population, it is to be hoped, and encouraged, that the final decision will be left to the overall Israeli electorate to determine by democratic means, and not by a flawed leadership, driven by ego, greed, and shortsightedness.

  14. It’s all PR isn’t it? And even if the gov did come to some agreement with the apalling Pali’s, there are an awful lot of Israelis in J and S with guns.

  18. The U.S. should just butt out of sovereign nations. There’s enough turmoil going on in their own backyard that they shouldn’t have time for this.

  20. The PA sources further confirm reports from last Friday stating that Kerry’s aids have rented 50 rooms in a Jerusalem hotel for January from which they plan to mount a diplomatic “attack” on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and force him to accept the American plan, part of which posits an Israeli security presence in the Jordan Valley for 10 years.

    If Israeli political leaders had any pride or backbone, they would tell Kerry and his entourage to get lost and stay out of Israel permanently.

  22. The Palestinian Arabs don’t want peace.

    They’re leaking to the press to sabotage a possible peace deal. Since the Palestinian Arab public is primed to hate Israel, Palestinian Arab negotiators are not going to put their necks on the chopping block by ending the conflict with Israel.

    John F. Kerry may be able to dragoon Israel into a deal but this is exactly what guarantees its inevitable failure.

    The only question is left is which the side the US will blame when that finally happens.