British House of Commons in London.. (photo credit:REUTERS)
LONDON – British MPs will have an unprecedented opportunity to vote on whether there should be a Palestinian state when the House of Commons resumes after its current party conference break on October 13.
A group of MPs from all major political parties, headed by Labor’s Grahame Morris – including Conservative MP Crispin Blunt, Liberal Democrat Sir Bob Russell, and Green Party former leader Caroline Lucas – have secured a debate under a relatively new procedure for a full-scale, whole day’s debate in the Commons chamber.
The motion reads: “This House believes that the government should recognize that state of Palestine alongside the State of Israel.’’ With those proposing the motion appearing determined to push the issue to a vote, seasoned Westminster observers fear a vote in favor of immediate recognition of a Palestinian state could cause a substantial shift in public opinion and lead to added pressures on the government to change its current policy, which favors securing an agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians before considering granting Palestinians recognition.
The debate will offer the MPs the first-ever opportunity to vote on the vexed issue. As the topic for debate has been chosen by backbenchers, it is very unlikely party whips will order MPs to attend or advise them how to vote, so predicting any possible outcome is virtually impossible.
However, The Jerusalem Post understands that the pro-Palestinian lobby will not have it entirely its own way. Several pro-Israel MPs from across the political divide in the Commons have just tabled an amendment that in effect insists that any call for establishing a Palestinian state should come about only “on the conclusion of successful peace negotiations between the Israeli government and the Palestinian Authority.”
Those associated with the amendment include former Conservative Friends of Israel chairman James Arbuthnot, the highly regarded former Middle East minister Alistair Burt, Labor Friends of Israel chairwoman Anne McGuire, and LFI vice chairwoman Louise Ellman.
After working very hard behind the scenes to ensure an amendment was tabled, Conservative Friends of Israel’s energetic director, Stuart Polak, told the Post: “It’s comforting to know that there are backbench MPs who understand the reality of the situation and were able to amend Grahame Morris’s motion. Calling for two states for two peoples after the resumption of successful peace negotiations is something all MPs should support.”
Without indicating which way the government minister – who will participate in the debate – will advise MPs on how to cast their vote, a Foreign Office spokesman told the Post in scarcely coded language that the government would not be endorsing a call favoring the recognition of a Palestinian state.
The spokesman made clear that the government “reserved the right to bilaterally recognize a Palestinian state at a moment of our choosing and when it can best help bring about peace,’’ before crucially adding that the government continues to believe that negotiations toward a two-state solution are “the best route to meeting Palestinian aspirations in reality and on the ground.”
Ellman told the Post that a negotiated two-state solution is required to give Israel security, and “that is the only way mutual recognition between the Palestinians and Israelis can be achieved with an agreement on sensitive issues including border and security arrangements.”
She added that the debate under the terms proposed by Morris and his colleagues is a clear attempt to bypass these requirements and would not require a Palestinian state to recognize Israel’s borders.
@ yamit82:
Thank you for the lovey and appropriate Greeting Shana Tovah and many honeyed kisses for you.
@ honeybee:
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@ yamit82:
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@ honeybee:
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bernard ross Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
Max Said:
Your only hope is to call people names, facts are inconvenient stumbling blocks, you resort to this tactic because you have nothing else. You never could answer any question relating to the mid east.
How’s your elite doing today, did they free you yet from the slavery you claim they have us all in yet. Your sense of humor should begin with yourself and your “elite” rants. Apparently your “elite” only operate on one side of your mind and within north american borders, when they cross the border they are on your side and the other side of your mind.
It appears that you have a need to “laugh” at me as a substitute for your inability to support your comments.
yamit82 Said:
True dat !!!!!!!!!!
honeybee Said:
I need something, no doubt about it.
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“By the livin’ Gawd that made you,
You’re a better man than I am,…” Max? 🙂
yamit82 Said:
What wrong ?????????? You need nailing ???????????
honeybee Said:
Almost
Max Said:
You and I Max are the only sane people on this site. You have nailed everyone.
honeybee Said:
Max. Yes,that’s my name, I’m on the radio all the time right next to my girlfriend “Min”.
As you knows we all gots the sense of humour here.
EG Devolin- he has a sense of humour: eg “Yeah I gots the fra–cking senses of humour you extraordinary piece of excrecitment and I’m gonna find you and break all your bones just to prove it.”
eg Bernard Ross: “Of course I gots the sense of humour – it was kidnapped in BENGHAZI by Obama CIA spies and shipped to Jordan where it found a JIHADIST under the bed! OMG!
But i got this essay full of facts and figures which prove definitely that I have a sense of humour – but first you got to answer my question! Why don’t you freaking answer my question obama-fra—cker , just answer the question – and it will make you laugh thus proving my sense of humour – you doleert.”
“..gasp.. drool… pant…”
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I Got those caricature snapshots down pat , didn’t I? Their mothers would certainly recognize them.
😉
@ Max:
Max ing ham
Goodbye ‘hams”
Nottinghalal Castle;
Halalberg,Germany;
Birminghalal.
Max Said:
More poetic version: “They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind…”
Food for thought:
The Name Brit-ish: “British” was of Hebrew origin, a combination of the words brit (covenant) and ish (man)!
@ Max:
Old Jews telling jokes, funny man, you made may day. Baalmoral Castle ????????? Pew Gardens ?????? Berka shire ??????????
honeybee Said:
With Buckinghalal Palace (things named ham being outlawed). I guess the Royal family will either convert or be beheaded.
“From the Channel to the Sea.” – Britainistine.
I think Islam will finally solve the Irish problem, with all the Catholics and Protestants “returning” to Islam.
dweller Said:
Gazashire ???????????????
@ Per:
Don’t they already have one?
What it really needs though is a nice, new, catchy name
— dunno, something like, what. . .the Sudetenland, maybe?
@ yamit82:
I feel so sorry for the children.
UK: Jewish Schoolchildren Barred from Shop, Told ‘No Jews’
Anti-Semitic Attacks up 400% in UK, Double in France
Anti-Semitism in Australia: Jewish School Builds Bomb-Proof Wall
Bondi Yeshiva College also installs CCTV, bomb-proof windows following a wave of attacks, including on schoolchildren.
529 anti-Semitic violent incidents in France in first seven months; 302 in UK in July alone.
Security guard at leading British retailer fired over anti-Semitism, after blocking Jewish kids from entering store in London.
Per Said:
It already is Palestine.
Soon the enablers will reap what they have sown.
Because the way to deal with Islam’s war against the west is to create another islamic terror state, at the expense of the Jewish state of course. I have nothing but contempt for pusilanimous western governments.
@ Eric R.:
Suspending relations is an initial must.
That the British Jews should leave is a given. But it is up to them.
Declaring the UK an inimical entity is also fine.
The bases in Cyprus must be sternly shadowed, but not yet attacked. Should any focused military movements be detected and identified as meant to harm us, then those bases may be considered valid objectives.
If as expected, they vote yes, Israel should sever diplomatic relations, urgently call on UK Jews to flee impending massacres, denounce the UK as a vile, disgusting, subhuman Nazi state, and attack the British bases on Cyprus.
@ Per:
We already have a few Muslim mini states in the UK.
Bradford, Tower Hamlets, Rotherham etc
I think a Palestinian state in England would be just fine.
Just to take such a vote is an act of war against humanity and against Israel.
Yes, that’s right Yamit and Yamt-like peeps – “humanity” – it is an attack on the free world.
The Palestinians already have two states. Jordan and The West Bank. Why do they need a lump of Israel?
Labor’s Grahame Morris – including Conservative MP Crispin Blunt, Liberal Democrat Sir Bob Russell, and Green Party former leader Caroline Lucas, are too ignorant of the history and geography of the area to debate anything. It took these stupid people 10 years to wake up to the fact that British girls were being raped on an industrial scale by Muslims. The Rotherham fiasco where 1400 girls were PROVEN to be raped is just the tip of the iceberg. This has been going on in every major British city.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/20/Rotherham-Childcare-Chief-Quits-Over-Mass-Sex-Abuse-Scandal
A two state solution in Egypt would make more sense. One for the “REAL” Egyptians; The Coptic Christians who are the descendents of the original Egyptians, and one for the Muslim occupiers.
Naturally. The poisonous garbage was and always will be our enemies.