By Peloni
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NOT A JOKE [notes mine]:
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/palestinian-authority/barlev-gantz-make-good-on-their-threats-with-mass-arrests-of-hilltop-youths/2022/02/16/
@SEBASTIEN-
It was really more of a rhetorical question. I’d already known that he did, but was really expressing my surprise that he didn’t know English. So talented a person often has several attributes, amongst them facility in learning other languages. And especially since he was such an eminent actor.
Just my idea.
@Edgar Well you asked if he learned his lines phonetically and that wad in the Wikipedia article. Maybe there are othet tidbits you didn’t know. Fascinating that Olivier copied his cental European persona from him. Kenneth Branagh did a terrific impersonation of Olivier doing that (in Rebecca) in Dead Again.
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I think something is being misunderstood. I KNOW about Bassermann, I have read the Wiki article years ago already. I knew that he was a favourite actor of Hitler who wanted him to divorce his wife and come back to Germany.
I could never understand why an actor of such great eminence could not speak English In those pre war years when there was much friendly traffic between Germany and England. Very often German actors and other theatre folks would perform in England, and most of them knew at least some English.
I recall Conrad Veidt very well and often saw his films . He was always good in his roles. That reminds me. There is what I call an excellent film about pre-war England and Germany. It’s called “Man Hunt”, and stars famous Big Game hunter Walter Pidgeon and Joan Bennett, plus George Saunders complete with monocle (my uncle used to wear one too). She played the part of a little Cockney tart, and although good enough, she rather over acted. I could never understand why they didn’t pick an English actress for the part. I think Roddy MacDowell as a sharp young kid was in his first good part.
I recommend it.
I’ve seen it a couple of time in the past few years, and saw it years ago as well. Always remembered it. Having Hitler in his gun sights, reminded me of one of Meinertzhagen’s stories.
“The Most Dangerous Game”, has Joel McCrea also playing a world famous Big Game hunter. ( I think a bit better than the way Pidgeon played it)
In fact I’ve just decided to watch it again, if it’s still on Youtube.
@Edgar Phonetically. Look at Wikipedia article. Quite comprehensive. He worked with Max Reinhardt in theater and Ernst Lubitsch in silent films among others. He was one of the first German actors to work in film. He chose to remain with his Jewish wife rather than return to Germany at Hitler’s invitation and gave a big career. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Bassermann
@SEBASTIEN-
Another comment on your excellent “find”….particularly poignant was the sight of this very old man, positively far beyond military age, dressed in a military coat down to his heels, trudging along, and dragging that huge sabre along the cobblestones.
And the way everybody jumped to attention in his presence, and when giving orders in his quavering voice. A really excellent performance… More amazing in that he didn’t speak English. Did I understand properly, that he was reading his lines phonetically from off stage Or was it someone else’s voice dubbing it in??
I think I feel a huge draft of hot air..or gas, coming up from somewhere.
To negatively paraphrase Rocky Graziano..”Somebody (up there) doesn’t like me”..
Is this true?
Today’s Arutz Sheva News Briefs
@Ted belman
@Sebastien Zorn
@Edgar
I have an idea.
How about moving Chit Chat to a separate webpage so you would have to click on the title to get out of the regular comments screen and into Chit Chat ONLY where you can converse to your heart’s content without interrupting the flow of the comments under the articles?
@Sebastien Zorn
It wasn’t set up to be abused for endless personal conversations which don’t interest anybody else on the site and overwhelm the screen.
I am sure that Mr. Belman will let both of you exchange your E-mail addresses through him for continuing your personal chats.
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Yes the”other “Edgar WAS me, I said so just below. And another thing.,That review about Bassermann is very good and interesting to read. I knew much of it but I saw a few new things I don’t know about . A good pickup. But Bassermann was not Jewish, his wife was. and it was because of her they left Germany I think as soon as Hitler came to power.
@Edgar Also seems unavailable but found this fascinating user review at IMDB:
@Edgar I was wondering if that other Edgar who commented in annoyance that they shouldn’t ask for a review from you of a book they haven’t got was you.
@SEBASTIEN-
All the ones you checked before you posted, are readily available on Gutenberg Project, as well as some other sites. But not the only one I really want.
P.s.
I just saw that Goodreads now has “E in J” as being by FS Stuart.
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Yes I know about all the other books, seals included. Wild life is O.K. for birdwatchers, but not for me.
That’s what I meant when I said that there are reports of 2 authors of the same name, When I first keyed in “Elephant in Jet” I got “Goodreads”. iI was they who warned not to mistake the author of “Elephant” with the other guy That the “Elephant in Jet” guy was Frank Stanley Stuart, and the “City of the Bees ” and other wild life was F.S. Stuart, sometimes Frank S. Stuart.
Goodreads then said “out of stock”…So I sent them a nasty letter, which I believe is on their “comments”…
As for my deduction about being a recent convert. Until very recently he-who-shall-not-be-named (which reminds me that some of my all time favourite books are Haggard’s “SHE” series) was just arguing about EVERYTHING -no discrimination., Lately is only concentrating on preaching doom and gloom and urgin instant aliyah, and Lo and Behold, it turns out that there are “serious” thoughts of “returning to Zion”.
Which is why I made the comparison with a recently reformed dipso fervently preaching against alcohol, and a recently converted Crusader, etc.
Nothing harmful to anyone.
You are nearly always very quick on the “uptake” but seemingly not this time.. .
@Edgar Here’s his “A Seal’s World” https://openlibrary.org/authors/OL2241604A/Frank_Stanley_Stuart
@Edgar No, just what I said but more detailed. Aah. I thought you were referring to me. What makes you think he’s a recent convert?
@SEBASTIEN-
Seb I don’t quite follow….. replies to what have been automatically deleted…and why….do you know?? I’ve seen some pretty dreadful things on here before, which were not deleted and I’m more than sure, that yours have never been in any way repugnant.
Maybe the computer is suddenly being over-zealous…
@SEBASTIEN-
I did just that a couple of years ago, and as I mentioned it resulted in volunimous exchanges that went on for months- maybe over a year. The Edinburgh Uni. Librarian in particular wrote to months holding out hopes and showing me the results of her own researches in worldcat and others, quoting dates for potential access but have heard nothing for a year.
Trinity Coll Dublin offered to scan for me at so much a page total over 750 EUROS.. And etc. British Libraries gave me the leads to the other places and said they had a copy in their Yorkshire branch but a huge waiting list. and so on and on. I’ve tried. Your instructions re Archives seem simple, but not to me. I’ve tried there , emailed them and they sent me a few links more puzzling that the “videos”…that didn’t work.
Just sent an email to Gen enquiries at the Library of Congress, ,no answer yet.
As for our complainant, “He Who Shall Not Be Named” (I wish there was a term much stronger than CHUTZPAH,) who has been filling our
site with reams of deceptive and pseudo-rational dogmatic argument for weeks and months, like a recently “converted” Crusader…..I mentioned this earlier you may recall, but in more veiled terms. .
Anything on that mysterious movie??
Thank goodness for Chit-Chat…….Couldn’t get out to a Library anyway. Strict Isolation I’m afraid. MY card must have expired 10 years ago.
PSHAW (I’d like to change the last 3 letters but have been too well brought up).
@Edgar Elephant Jet is only available in a few libraries in England, Scotland, Ireland and Australia. Ask your local librarian to arrange an interlibrary loan. Click on the links in my previous post for those books and then on the cover of the 3dition you want, they are not videos.
@Reader We are all anonymous here, there are no personal emails. Cit Chat was set up for just that. Relevant posts remain under the articles they refer to, which I read, anyway, if the topic interests me.
@Edgar
@Sebastien Zorn
I have a suggestion.
Why don’t you exchange your E-mail addresses and chat through E-mail because your conversation pushes everybody else’s posts out of the screen.
Thanks
@Edgar My replies have all been deleted automatically.
@Edgar and Dublin, Ireland
@Edgar Wrote long reply but it disappeared. Click on my links to find those books. at archive.org or for other books just type in box and hit enter. Ignore everthing else. You can also find address by googling internet archive if you forget. We discussed Elephant Jet. It is completely unavailable except for a few libraries in the UK, Dublin, and Australia according to Worldcat. You could get an interlibrary loan. Ask your local librarian.
The pages my links send you to show you the front covers of the different editions it has. Click on one.
@Edgar just click on the links in my last post. We talked about Elephant in Jet. Nobody is selling it. You have to look at Worldcat to find any libraries that have it and do an interlibrary loan. I just found a copy at Trinity College LIbrary, Dublin. Here’s some more, National LIbrary of Scotland, Edinburgh. British Library, St. Pancras, London. University of Oxford. University of Newcastle Auchmuty Library, Newcastle, Australia.
https://archive.org//
https://www.worldcat.org/
@SEBASTIEN-
Tried Archives etc. wasn’t able to negotiate it, Nothing I pressed worked. Was faced with a whole page of what looked like tiny videos. So just sent my query to Info.
Maybe you can do better. I’m looking for a book “Elephant In Jet” by Frank Stanley Stuart, Pub Paternoster House London 1940. (Maybe also later by Paul and Sons( ???) There seems to have been 2 authors of the same name the second being the author of “City of the Bees”, and other wildlife subjects. MY Stuart also wrote “Caravan to China”
About 4-5 copies are found in worldcat, but all are in universities, except for one in British Library.
Have had extensive exchanges with them all, over the past couple of years. I mentioned it on this site a few months ago.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/louisville-activist-nabbed-in-shooting-of-jewish-mayoral-candidate/2022/02/15/
Though in Eretz Israel, this is just a Tuesday, of course. Yawn. Let’s make some more concessions ”cause most of them are just peachy though we don’t want to provoke them, you know. You know, the silent majority. Very silent.
First really good article I have read about Caryn Johnson aka Whoopie’s antisemitism and the right response to it.
https://www.algemeiner.com/2022/02/15/why-we-lied-to-ourselves-about-whoopi-goldberg-and-antisemitism/
Hysterical! It would appear she’s stands accused of “Nakba Denial!” That’s where so-called “Holocaust” education has gotten us.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/1644947805-ocasio-cortez-heckled-by-pro-palestinian-protesters
@ Edgar I checked before I posted. They are all there.
https://archive.org/search.php?query=jeffery%20farnol%20the%20amateur%20gentleman
https://archive.org/search.php?query=charles%20o%27malley%20The%20Irish%20Dragoon
https://archive.org/search.php?query=Thackeray%20Pendennis
https://archive.org/search.php?query=sabatini
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Thank you indeed f or the link. I’ve never tried it. Many or most of those book sre also available on Gutenberg Project and/or Australia and some on Roy Glashan’a Library. “Read any Book”, is also a good site but often deficient. But there are others that the Archives may have. It will be a pleasure just to browse through them. Thanks again……….
BUT keep thinking about that movie please.
@Edgar Every one of those books is available for free at internetarchive.org. Actual photos of the books. Only the feel of paper is missing. Just type in the author or author and title in the search box and hit enter. Some can be borrowed indefinitely and some have to be renewed every so often.
@SEBASTIEN-
I see that my P.S. about “The good soldier Schweik” (Jaroslav Hasek) was not printed, ran out of time. I wrote that it had a laugh on every page..
You know, talking to you about books is invigorating, but then after, makes me sad, because my books are all in storage and I write from memory only. I wish I had them here, but my place is too small and I’d need double rows of floor to ceiling shelving all around the whole place.
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I just remembered that I don’t think I saw the Basserman movie until after the war, and I read much later that it was based on a play of the early 1930s a few years before the war. I thought that Voigt came out of jail the last time, sometime in the early 20th cent, before 1910 anyway, because he was imprisoned in the 1890s..
And I nearly forgot, “The Good Soldier Schweik”, a laugh on every page.
@SEBASTIEN-
Sometimes you surprise me.. What makes you think I don’t know all about Voigt, the career petty criminal. I read up on him as soon as I saw that Albert Basserman movie more years ago than I can recall. I’ve looked and looked for it again many times, but I see about 20 different Captains, some in German, some dubbed, and none nearly as good as the one I mention. It was, as I pointed out, the portrayal by Basserman himself, which made is so pathetically funny. a masterpiece.
I keep lookin for it periodically. never find it.
I read about Wallenberg and Pimpernel Smith on Wiki some years ago.
Leslie Howard, another actor I never was able to enthuse over. I thought he was very negative Gone with the Wind. Although, I liked the Scarlet Pimpernel movies., I’ve read all of Orczy’s books several times over, and have many of them, also Sabatini. At one time I liked Jeffery Farnol..
I used to think that Farnol’s name was as strange a name with reversed spelling. The horse race in “The Amateur Gentleman” is very well described. Have you ever read “Charles O’Malley The Irish Dragoon”, or Thackeray’s “Pendennis”,?; both top favourites of mine.
******Vadda Bout det Movie I can’t recall……..Put on your thinking cap, you are an avid moviegoer I suspect, even now(******. I even tried a couple of sites some years ago, which guaranteed that they could find any movie by the description of a small part of it…Nothing…!! Now I can’t even find a site like those, without joining facebook or some other rubbishy link-which I won’t do…
I haven’t gone to a movie since i was able to see them on YV, and since computers started showing them, ,not a TV anymore., .And now, it must be at least 2-3 years since I looked at a youtube movie at all. I think I watched a few Laurel and Hardy, “Flying Deuces”, also King Kong, which later became unobtainable. I also saw again “The Most Dangerous Game”, which I hadn’t seen since I was a kid. And still liked it. I recalled it perfectly. because.it made a great impression on me..Fay Wray was in it, and it had been made by RKO just the year before King Kong, which used some of it’s “jungle props”…and background shots. Them was the days…..
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@Edgar Life imitating Art.
The original Scarlet Pimpernel novels directly and indirectly inspired both Raoul Wallenberg and William Voigt (the real-life Captain of Kopernick, dramatized many times in play and cinema format, most recently in 1997, ). The original play came out in 1903, the first two novels in 1905 and 1906 and Voigt was released from prison and pulled his famous escapade in 1906. Voigt was pardoned by the emperor and to this day in that town they celebrate his prank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Hauptmann_von_K%C3%B6penick
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0136987/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049293/
Wallenberg was inspired by a showing of Pimpernel Smith in (1942.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel#Novels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt
From Leslie Howard to Raoul Wallenberg:
the transmission and adaptation of a heroic model
Richard Raskin
https://pov.imv.au.dk/Issue_28/section_2/artc9A.html
Not sure if I’ve posted this comment here, before. Did we discuss this?
@Edgar Life imitating Art.
The original Scarlet Pimpernel novels directly and indirectly inspired both Raoul Wallenberg and William Voigt (the real-life Captain of Kopernick, dramatized many times in play and cinema format, most recently in 1997, ). The original play came out in 1903, the first two novels in 1905 and 1906 and Voigt was released from prison and pulled his famous escapade in 1906. Voigt was pardoned by the emperor and to this day in that town they celebrate his prank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Hauptmann_von_K%C3%B6penick
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0136987/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049293/
Wallenberg was inspired by a showing of Pimpernel Smith in (1942.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel#Novels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt
From Leslie Howard to Raoul Wallenberg:
the transmission and adaptation of a heroic model
Richard Raskin
https://pov.imv.au.dk/Issue_28/section_2/artc9A.html
Not sure if I’ve posted this comment here, before. Did we discuss this?
@Edgar We like some of the same films but it has to be meshugah to make me actually laugh. One of my all time favorite messhugah comedies, which can be rented on Youtube for $3 is “The Mad Adventures of Rabbi Jacob” starring Louis Funes.
Another hilarious one with Cary Grant as straight man is “Arsenic and Old Lace” with Raymond Massey and Peter Lorre.”
In Name Only with Carole Lambard and Cary Grant was also very funny.
@Edgar Life imitating Art.
The original Scarlet Pimpernel novels directly and indirectly inspired both Raoul Wallenberg and William Voigt (the real-life Captain of Kopernick, dramatized many times in play and cinema format, most recently in 1997, ). The original play came out in 1903, the first two novels in 1905 and 1906 and Voigt was released from prison and pulled his famous escapade in 1906. Voigt was pardoned by the emperor and to this day in that town they celebrate his prank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Hauptmann_von_K%C3%B6penick
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0136987/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049293/
Wallenberg was inspired by a showing of Pimpernel Smith in (1942.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel#Novels
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt
https://pov.imv.au.dk/Issue_28/section_2/artc9A.html
Not sure if I’ve posted this comment here, before. Did we discuss this?
@SEBASTIEN-
I meant to mention “Charley’s American Aunt” The one with Jack Benny. Very good-in parts, but of course a farce. The “students” were all far too old,(Benny was about 45 or more) and their accents far too phony….nearly as bad as Cary Grant’s.
@SEBASTIEN-
Yes I DID get that, and heard it many times by different comedians. As for funniest film, I don’t have a single film as the funniest. I have quite a few, for instance ” Ruggles of Red Gap”…”No Time For Sergeants”, many of the Laurel and Hardy films,…. even a few “3 Stooges” ones, …A few “Charlie Chaplin”, but only parts of them…. Marx Bros were far too mashugga, so didn’t care too much for them. “Some Like It Hot” was very good most of the way through. Curtis had an affected accent very much like Cary Grant. But on him it was deliberately done ,thus, acceptable.
And there are others. I thought a few “Mexican Spitfire” ones not bad, but only Leon Errol was very good…. with his change of walk and expressions into Lord Epping? What about “Born Yesterday”…excellent. And “The Maggie”…very good. There was a very good Italian film starring Aldo Fabrizi, as the fat middle-aged husband and the family getting their daughter ready for her first communion. Fabrizi hilarious in parts.
AND..I nearly forgot..”Captain of Kopenick”, but only the version starring Albert Basserman who was really tops , in what was a serious part, which he made hilarious in an unconscious manner..”Road to Zanzibar” was the best of the Crosby Hope ones. very funny in parts.,
…. Ian Carmicheal,…beginning with “I’m all Right Jack”,and “Private’a Progress” were hilarious.
I couldn’t stand Lewis and Martin Uch…(spit).Nor Danny Kaye. I liked Harold Peary in “The Great Gildersleeve”. His laugh alone……!!
Anyway, I hope you have an answer for my unknown movie
You are a film buff, and I just recalled that for years I’ve been trying to track down a movie. I don’t recall the name, or the names of the actors, but the story was hilarious. You may immediately recognise it, I hope so.
“A newly married couple buy a house. Her father comes for a visit. He is explosively Italian, a stone mason, and a “house expert\’.He is fat, with a small moustache and an Italian accent, and knows everything about houses. the first thig he does iput an empty bottle on the floor and it quickly rolls into a corner..”.foundations crooked” he says. He interferes in everything. Then he decides to make them a present, a surprise item he’ll build in the house. The place is full of dust and noise for about 6 months and it seems he’ll nenver go back home and leave them to enjoy life. There is a large sheet hanging right across the living room, and behindit the sound of banging and hammering eyc. Eventually one day he is finished. He makes them close their eyes,
When they open them, at the very end of the room, taking up the bWHOLE wall, is a MONSTER SIZE fireplace,made of dressed stones,…. a HUGE shock.
Can you recall seeing this movie. The y are not that young, I’ve always thought, maybe Bill Holden, but I don’t think so but maybe his type.
I saw “Bringing up baby”…too contrived for me. not spontaneously funny. Don’t have faribble mit mir….
So …give it a try..
@Edgar I think Bringing up Baby is one of the funniest films of all time.
@Edgar Everybody used to parody his accent saying, “Judy, Judy,Judy.” I thought you would get that.
@SEBASTIEN-
Now he was an actor that I instinctively did not like at all. Only one time, with Fairbanks and McGlaglen in Gunga Din. And then only barely
– because of the other two.
His phony squeezed, affected accent, sounded comical to me..I barely recall that “Judy” thing, ..maybe Judy Garland, Was he in something with her?? Say hello to Judymac for me. Might as well get to know other members.
@Edgar
How’s your Cary Grant accent?
@Reader On a lighter note, coincidentally, right before you posted the podcast about the Holocaust survivor who retired to Israel – in which I heard no reference to her being a Holocaust survivor, unless I missed something- but which begins with a segment on seaside weddings in Israel, I found this artcle:
Inbar Lavi is a married woman. On September 13, the Lucifer actor, 34, married Dan Bar Shira in a boho seaside wedding at the Al Hayam in their home Israel. “We’re both Israeli and very connected to our roots,” Lavi told Brides as per PEOPLE, “Our family lives here and we were raised by the Mediterranean, which made us who we are today.
“They integrated many ethnic customs, including a seaside chuppah, which the bride described as “a little conventional and a little untraditional.” In honor of her Moroccan heritage, the pair participated in a henna ritual along with costumes and a drum circle. However, as per PEOPLE, the bride and groom were also inspired by Burning Man; they met during the Nevada desert event in August 2019. Lavi characterized the concept as “Tulum meets Burning Man meets a very nice cocktail,” including light displays, three separate DJs, and a fire show during the afterparty.
“We met at Burning Man so we wanted our wedding to emulate a feeling of free-flow festival,” she explained. “We also both love the beach so we knew it would have to have waves nearby.” Lavi said that the newlyweds asked their parents to join them in “a mash-up” for their first dance. “We started our solo first dance to the sounds of ‘I Can’t Help Falling In Love With You’ [by] Ingrid Michaelson,” she said. “And continued to the OG Elvis Presley version dancing with the parents.”
Meanwhile, Lavi’s real-life wedding comes after her Lucifer character Eve (yes, the original Eve) married Mazikeen (Lesley-Ann Brandt), a demon with a golden heart, in the show’s last season.”
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/hollywood/lucifer-star-inbar-lavi-gets-married-longtime-beau-dan-bar-shira-see-post-905583
https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/hollywood/lucifer-star-inbar-lavi-gets-married-longtime-beau-dan-bar-shira-see-post-905583rama.
She plays a supporting lead in last 3 of 6 seasons. With pictures of her wedding by the sea.
Fun 6 season comedy drama musical murder mystery in which biblical characters come to earth as one big dysfunctional family and to solve crimes with the LAPD, of course. Ha Ha.
@ Reader Your post didn’t say she was a Holocaust survivor. I misread.
@Reader On a lighter note, coincidentally, right before you posted the podcast about the Holocaust survivor who retired to Israel – in which I heard no reference to her being a Holocaust survivor, unless I missed something- but which begins with a segment on seaside weddings in Israel, I found this artcle:
FYI: