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April 16, 2020 | 9,231 Comments »

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  1. Biden announces ban on US imports of Russia oil, escalating response to Ukraine invasion
    By AFP Today, 6:51 pm

    We’re banning all imports of Russian oil and gas and energy. That means Russian oil will no longer be acceptable at US ports and the American people will deal another powerful blow to [President Vladimir] Putin,” Biden says in an address from the White House, adding that the decision was taken “in close consultation” with allies.

    The ban comes with Democrats threatening legislation to force Biden’s hand, despite the likely impact on already soaring gas prices.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/biden-announces-ban-on-us-imports-of-russia-oil-escalating-response-to-ukraine-invasion/

  2. @Ted Belman

    It is not a personal fight to replace Putin.

    It is a “Go East, young man!” campaign which is 300 years old.

    Russia (in any of its shapes) is a huge country with a relatively small population and, as far as the West is concerned, is doomed to be conquered by it.

    Once you understand this, you will understand any and all of the collective West’s (led by the US and the Great Britain) actions.

    The idea is to break Russia up and destroy it (including the other Eastern European nations who so naively are trying to become part of the “civilized” West), do to the population what they have done to the American Indians, and rule the world from then on.

    Personally, I prefer the world order where there is mutual respect and cooperation.

    I think this is the only way to bring peace.

    But if there is peace, there won’t be any need for the weapons sales!

  3. Negotiations commence on Monday. I sincerely hope that both the west offer Putin enough for him to climb down. I worry that the west prefers no deal so that Putin can’t climb down and will ultimately be deposed. If Putin goes from leader of Russia will he simply be replaced or will Russia change. And If it changes, will it change for the better?

    I fear that the west doesn’t want to give Putin anything thereby ensuring that the carnage goes on. The west doesn’t care about the carnage. They just want this to be Putin’s Waterloo. Putin is between a rock and a hard place.  He has no good options.

  6. Edgar,

    I used the language of the Russian Defense Minister. He called the volunteers in Ukraina “foreign mercenaries”. The “International Brigade” could also be called “mercenaries”, in that they were not sanctioned by their home governments. My favorite in the Spanish Civil War was, you might guess, George Orwell.

  7. @TED-

    Israel voted against Russia joining the 87 countries. The Ambassador to the EU was not allowed by Lapid to speak but his deputy made the speech, . showing a down grading of the Israeli response. A political gesture.. Reported in Arutz 7 today.

  8. @ MICHAEL S.-

    There were few mercenaries in that war., There were MANY volunteers and an International Brigade. I suppose they all were paid when money was available as is normal with enlisted troops everywhere. I personally knew several Jewish members, some of our close neighbours, in fact, of our Community who went, and came back, and many stories were told. Beside, one of our school teachers Eddy Edwards was a volunteer in that War on the Republican side as were our Community members. Because of this nobody would give him a job, until he came to Zion School and he was at home there, many years later the Headmaster.

    The odd thing about our school, in that viciously Jew0Hating country, was the All of our teachers were Catholics and loved our children. The headmaster in my time became a member of the dail , the Parliament. Another was the Chief Commissioner of the Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland , for about 40 years. When I’d return to Dublin to see my family i’d call to see him too. He loved seeing me and others whom I sometimes brought with me. He remembered us all, he said every child he taught he remembered.

    We were really very lucky in our teachers. Of my class of aboutb 30 kids, mostly of poor backgrounds, there were at least 5 doctors, 3 solicitors, 1 barrister, and 3 Rabbis one very famous. He started a girls College in Jerusalem to teach Orthodox girls Talmud and Midrash etc. They became teachers all over Israel and elsewhere in the world

  9. Hi, Reader.

    Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov warned that all foreign mercenaries, detained in Ukraine, would be brought to justice on criminal charges

    In some respects, this conflict in the Ukraine resembles the Spanish Civil War — in that it’s a testing ground for the weapons (cyber, economic, etc.) that the major powers will be using on a wider scale in the general conflict that will surely follow. In the SCW, mercenaries were also employed in large numbers on both sides.

  12. @ Peloni @ Bear @ Edgar When I first started posting comments here – which was the first place I had ever posted comments, in 2016, I think – not knowing the protocols, or ettiquete, for that matter, I recall assuming that “in moderation” meant my views weren’t moderate enough, which truly baffled me at times since my comments, though often rambling and loquatious, at times veering into the irrelevant and unnecessarily autobiographical, as though I felt the need to prove my right to offer an opinion here, tended to be, what could only have been only be described as modest in the given context, if not to say, moderate7 albeit tendentious, at times, moreover often unknowingly veering into the territory of tesching my grandmothers to suck eggs. “Caviar emptor” as schhols of fish say

  14. @Bear
    I comment a great deal here, as you know, and the moderation thing is common enough. It would be a great loss to lose your input here and I hope to see your continued additions in the days to come. Shalom til then.

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  15. @Bear It’s clearly a random AI thing. Just copy and repost. Don’t fight over Ukraine and Russia. It’s Israel we should worry about. Don’t go. Or go and come back when this latest mass hysteria dies down. Anybody would think there are no other wars going on.

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  16. Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Gantz announces more relief for Gaza
    Defense Minister tours Gaza Division, says number of Gazan workers allowed into Israel to be increased,
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/323124

    “Palestinian Arabs planning disturbances in Evyatar
    Top PA official calls on Palestinian Arabs to arrive at outpost on Thursday morning and prevent “settlers” from praying there.”
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/Suspected terror attack: Jew stabbed in Hizma village and moderately wounded
    Man says he came to garage and was stabbed out of nationalist motives. Police have opened an investigation.” https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/323179

    Instead of fighting terror, Bennett is fighting the settlers’
    MK Yariv Levin castigates Bennett over arrest of youths at Homesh yeshiva.https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/323156

    Every single day

  17. @Sebastien Zorn

    It looks like Israel is turning itself into a ghetto in the middle of a “native Arab land”.

    You can take the Jew out of the ghetto but you cannot the ghetto out of the Jew…

    Maybe Gantz is hoping for an American citizenship as a reward for his work but what does he think the other 7 million Jews are going to do?

    And that Knesset member is simply insane.

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  18. Gantz announces more relief for Gaza
    Defense Minister tours Gaza Division, says number of Gazan workers allowed into Israel to be increased,

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/323124

    “Palestinian Arabs planning disturbances in Evyatar
    Top PA official calls on Palestinian Arabs to arrive at outpost on Thursday morning and prevent “settlers” from praying there.”
    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/Suspected terror attack: Jew stabbed in Hizma village and moderately wounded
    Man says he came to garage and was stabbed out of nationalist motives. Police have opened an investigation.” https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/323179

    Instead of fighting terror, Bennett is fighting the settlers’
    MK Yariv Levin castigates Bennett over arrest of youths at Homesh yeshiva.https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/323156

    Every single day

  22. Chelsea FC owner Roman Abramvotich (Russian – Israeli) Selling team. He will give the proceeds to charity for Ukrainian Refugees.

    He is owned about $2 billion by Chelsea FC and he will NOT require repayment.

    He always give large amounts of money to those less fortunate wherever he lives and this includes Israel.

    The team could sell in the neighborhood of 2 to 3 billion pounds.

    A truly admirable Man.

  23. Captured Russian soldiers cry as they tell relatives ‘I was sent to my death’

    The Russian prisoners of war broke down in tears as they told their families back home that they had been ‘sent to their deaths’ in the invasion, with Ukraine claiming to have killed 6,000 Russians
    Russian POWs had no idea why they are at war

    ByMatthew DreschNews Reporter

    14:25, 2 Mar 2022Updated19:31, 2 Mar 2022

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    Captured Russian soldiers broke down in tears as they told their families they had been ‘sent to their deaths’ in Ukraine.

    The prisoners of war were interviewed on camera by Ukrainian forces and said they had been used as cannon fodder in the war.

    It comes after Ukraine claimed it had killed 6,000 Russian troops durning the first six days of the invasion.

    Now footage is being shared online showing some of the captured invaders complaining about the war.

    One captive was filmed speaking to his mother over the phone, telling her: “They sent us to death, everyone killed everyone.”

    The soldier then broke down crying and told his mum ‘I love you too’.

    In another clip, a different Russian prisoner said: “We came for training. We were lied to and that’s why I am here

  24. I was just looking at the comments that didn’t automatically get approve. Much to my surprise there were about 10 comments over the last week that ended up in Spam or Trash.

    I approved them all.
    I will look daily at these bins.

  26. Trouble is Ted is only focusing on what he perceives as the west’s sins.

    He fails to observe and digest that in regards to Israel: Russia supplies Iran nuclear equipment, takes their side on the nuclear issue, sells them weapons, and sells weapons to everyone of Israel’s enemies. Takes the side of the Palestinians on almost all issues.

    Putin is on the side of Assad in Syria and has kept in him in power and propped him up. He says the Golan belongs to Syria.

    Putin wants to conquer or control other countries. He is trying this now in Ukraine. The West opposes this. Ted is on the side of Putin.

    Ted, tell us what is pro Israel or good about Putin? Did you like it when recently they jammed Israeli flight equipment and planes could not take off safely from Ben Gurion? Do you approve of them selling Iran and Syria equipment to shoot down Israeli planes?

    The USA and other western countries sell weapons to Israel and buy weapons from Israel. Yes the west or much of it has tried to have Israel agree to a two state solution but so does Putin and Russia.

    What is good about Putin again from the standpoint of Israel. So this supposed objectivity in my eyes is not objective but is nothing but a shallow anti American rant that one could hear from a Jihadi and/ or Putin.

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  27. @Adam Dalgliesh

    There were rumors that Zelensky was going through Poland (instead of straight to Belarus – out of fear) to participate in Russia-Ukraine negotiations.

    Apparently, he decided not to go there.

    The negotiations have already started.

    Zelensky is an idiot, he should have quit his position immediately and taken his family to an undisclosed location in Africa somewhere, and not because of the “Russkies”.

    Israeli doctors are idiots also.

    Israel has this knee-jerk reaction to dispatch its help to every allegedly suffering nation which usually hates its guts.

  28. Hi, Ted. You said,

    I chose to put the spotlight on the US rather than on Russia to counter the spin put on the Ukraine conflict by the west. In doing so we all got educated more fully on the facts and realities. That’s a good thing…

    Thank you for trying to keep us objective during this crisis. Here is what I GUESS is going on:

    1. There are three major powers in play: a. the Globalists (including Biden), Putin and Xi. Their correspondence to George Orwell’s “Oceania, Eurasia and East Asia” should not be ignored. They continually put on a show of being at war with each other; but in fact, they are linked in their purpose of centralized control of the world

    2. The “other side” is the “deplorables” and the “Lao Bai Xing”, the ordinary people. In Orwellian terms, they are the “proles”.

    3. Israel seems to be moving in lock step with the Globalists or “Oceanians”; but I think this is folly on their part. Time will tell. For the moment, this actually puts them on the same side as the Turks, who definitely do not have Israel’s interests at heart.

  29. @Ted, Adam is correct we in the world have seen pictures Zelynskyy in Kiev.

    You are so wrong about all this to do with Russia and Ukraine!! Defending Putin now is baseless and wrong!

    NATO only went into countries where they were requested. Why where they requested because they wanted to make sure Putin did NOT attack them because they do NOT want to live under Russian Rule.

    You blame the victim for being attacked. Do you also blame a woman when she raped or her raper??

    Negotiations are under way now.

  30. “I chose to put the spotlight on the US rather than on Russia to counter the spin put on the Ukraine conflict by the west. In doing so we all got educated more fully on the facts and realities. That’s a good thing.

    Other stalwarts for the west have chosen to do the same thing. Look at recent posts on Israpundit by Spencer, Lee Smith, and Markovsky.

    By the way, Arutz Sheva posted my article, The pot is calling the Kettle black, yesterday. That article mentions nothing about the nefarious activities of the US in Ukraine by installing their own puppet regime there and turning a blind eye to the Nazis and the killing of 14,000 Ukrainians in the break away provinces in eastern Ukraine since 2014. Nor the bioweapon labs they finance and oversee.

    The US only got the support of 87 nations so far to their resolution condemning Russia. Among those abstaining or staying neutral are China, India, Brazil, Israel and UAE.

    From where I am sitting Russia has been hard done by the US whose policies in Ukraine have pushed Putin to these actions in self defense. Russia is no threat to the US but the US has shown itself to be a threat to Russia.

    Before the invasion, Putin demanded that NATO unwind its relentless eastward expansion. NATO refused. So we must ask, was the Russian demand reasonable or understandable? Should NATO have agreed at least in part? NATO was totally against doing so. The inevitable result was the invasion..

    Israel National News reported that Zelensky said “Russia initially demanded preconditions to talks that were tantamount to full surrender, including a halt to all fighting by Ukrainian forces, a demilitarized Ukraine, and the “deNazificiation” of the country. Ukraine refused to negotiate under such conditions, and also objected to Russia’s proposal to hold talks in Belarus,” Zelensky said they were non starters. To me they are reasonable.

    Did the eastward expansion of NATO bring peace or war? Had NATO stayed put, would Russia have moved westward? Maybe, maybe not. If the US had not turned Ukraine against Russia , would there have been an invasion? I think not.”

  32. @Ted. You have the facts completely wrong. Zelensky is in Kyiv. He has been filmed there on the street making speeches and holding press conferences over the past few days. There is no deal between Russia and the Ukrainian armed forces, which are resisting the invasion fiercely. There are no indications that the Russians are proparing to leave Ukraine anytime soon.

    It is terribly sad to see someone who possesses so much knowledge and insight about so many matters, and who written intelligently about so many matters over the years, becoming a naive, uncritical disseminatorr Putin’s lying propaganda. “How are the mighty fallen, the weapons of war laid low.”

  35. @freeman

    Did anyone seriously really expect Russia to be passive as Ukraine proceeded into the Nato alliance?

    But of course!

    When the US bombs some Untermensch country into smithereens to teach it democracy and freedom, the Untermenschen are supposed to enjoy it and keep screaming “Give me more!!!”

  36. russia has legitimate security concerns. NATO is already encircling Russia.
    Remember how the USA reacted to the Cuban nuclear crisis? without a guarantee of ukrainian neutrality then Russia has no choice but to secure it’s borders. Did anyone seriously really expect Russia to be passive as Ukraine proceeded into the Nato alliance?

  37. @Ted thanks for assuring me you have not censored me. Then twice now after editing partial comments or whole comments have vanished. So perhaps something with the edit function is malfunctioning.

  42. From Patrick Byrne on Washington Convoy:

    Slow Thoughts on Convoys: Don’t Do It

    Myself and the America project are respectfully stepping away from support or endorsement of any convoy. It is my belief that they are thoroughly penetrated by the Left, people who are licking their chops about the possibility of creating another J6 but this one with trucks.

    In the meantime, I think we win the information war over the next eight weeks. This we have everything to lose, and nothing concrete and specific to gain. Don’t fall into the trap.

    At the very least, do not converge on Washington DC. Not even the beltway. I encourage people to disband that plan entirely, at the very least, and consider other rallying points.

    But what I really suggest is that everybody understand these convoys are heavily penetrated by the Left, who want to turn them into disasters for us.

    https://patrickbyrne.locals.com/upost/1747651/slow-thoughts-on-convoys-don-t-do-it

  45. @Bear Reader is right. The headline just says, “Billionaire,” as do a few other sites. Everybody is covering this from cbs new to the bbc to the Guardian and the NY Post. France24 has the same headline and makes the exact same points as RT. Everybody talks about his humanitarian motivation; he said his daughter was a vegetarian who had worked for an animal rights group. but the RT and France 24 articles quote McDonalds’ reply in which they question why he did not make the same demand of Vikase which buys the same cruelty products but in which he is a majority shareholder, while he only owns 200 shares of McDonalds. A valid question, I haven’t found his reply. I see no reason to assume antisemitic intent. It is a very unusual event and one in which most articles just laud his good philanthropy. He is also trying to put 2 people on the McDonalds board, to accomplish this reform. But, what about Vikase?

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220221-billionaire-icahn-steps-up-campaign-against-mcdonald-s-pig-farm-practices

  46. Israel has moved its embassy to Lviv right after the Americans moved theirs which is kind of ironic because Lviv had a huge bloody pogrom right before the Germans showed up in WWII, and the Western Ukraine is hugely antisemitic and Nazi-loving (and Russia-hating).

  47. Russia is now invading Ukraine.

    Hopefully Israel threads the needle and stays on the sideline of this conflict which if errors happen could escalate very seriously and towards a far wider conflict.