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April 16, 2020 | 9,231 Comments »

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  2. @Sebastien Zorn

    Ukrainian neo-Nazi group lays claim to execution

    Well, it looks like the “evil Putin” was right about the need to “denazify” Ukraine.

    What does this episode make the “Ukrainian freedom” supporters look like?

    And what does it say about the Government of Israel which is acting as though nothing in particular is happening to the Jews in Ukraine and there is no real need for aliyah from there but there is a dire need to accept the “Ukrainian refugees” for political reasons.

  5. @Adam Dalgliesh

    BTW, why is it that in the US the Nazis/Neo-Nazis have always enjoyed freedom of speech without ever being sanctioned, campaigned against by the mass media, etc.?

    In fact, thousands of them were brought to the US after WWII, ostensibly, to fight against communism.

    But the countries who fought the hardest against the Nazis (the USSR, Serbia, Belarus (now)) are being painted as the DEVILS deserving of death and destruction?

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  6. @Adam Dalgliesh

    So, “sanctioning” blind Russian athletes is OK in order to sooth the mythical suffering Ukrainian children?

    What about those Donetzk and Lugansk children who’ve been suffering for the last 8 years from the shelling by the Ukrainian mlitary?

    BTW, if any “Ukrainian children” are suffering right now. it is because the brave Ukrainians are using them as human shields by positioning their military in residential areas and/or not letting the residents leave.

    This war was provoked by the US and NATO, the US and NATO/Europeans don’t give a crap about anyone’s suffering children, especially the Russian or Ukrainian.

    All they care about is destroying the place (the so-called Eurasia) with the hands of their proxies and taking over.

    As far as RT is concerned, it seems to be reporting events rather than propagandizing and playing with their readers emotions.

  7. @Reader. RT is a Russian propaganda mouthpiece. Anything published there should be regarded with skepticism. If it is true that blind Russian athletes have been banned from a competition, that is certainly unjust and stupid. But remember, there are tens of thousands of kids in Ukraine who are suffering much worse things than being denied admission to an athletic competition.

  9. 16 Mar, 2022 12:05

    Ukrainians are Slavic while Russians engaged in ethnic mixing – Kiev
    A stunningly racist theory was published by a government institution

    A Ukrainian state body for historic research has published nine arguments on Monday for why Ukrainians and Russians cannot be called brotherly nations, including one that stated that Ukrainians are pureblood Slavs, while Russians count people from Ugro-Finnish tribes among their ancestors.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/552060-ukrainian-pure-blood-museum/

  13. While Russia! Russia! Russia! grabs everyone’s attention, Pandemic-cause health care shortage is much worse than imagined:

    Healthcare Staffing Shortages Remain a Challenge
    BY DR. WILLIAM MILLER ON MARCH 15, 2022
    On October 4th, I reported on the national shortage of healthcare workers and how this affects us locally. Six months ago, when I wrote about it, the US Bureau of Labor Statistics indicated that there were over 290,000 unfilled healthcare positions across the country and it was predicted that this would increase by another 35,000 by the end of 2021, with 1/3 of the total being in registered nurses. Unfortunately, these estimates were off by a large margin. The American Hospital Association (AHA) reported in January that the actual shortage at yearend was closer to 600,000, mostly nurses, and they predict another 500,000 healthcare worker jobs will be vacant by the end of 2022, bringing the potential total to 1.1 million. AHA has called the ballooning shortage of nurses in America a “crisis that demands immediate action.”
    — https://theava.com/archives/181251

  17. @Sebastien Zorn

    Shaked Succumbs to Pressure

    It is not completely horrible – the visaless entry is only for those who have relatives in Israel, and she removed the quota for those who have relatives in Israel, not for all refugees.

    I think that the lawsuit is an antisemitic trick because the idea that everyone from the former Eastern Bloc is dying to move to Israel because the life in their countries is so horrible is someone’s crazy fantasy.

    Notice that the Arabs also regard it as an antisemitic trick (that’s why they welcome the supposed influx of the Ukrainian women).

    I hope that the Supreme Court doesn’t cave in and deals with this properly, and that Israel really intensifies the aliyah.

  18. Ted, you may have to fetch my latest post to Reader out of the dustbin. I see it on the side column, but not in the main gallery.

    Edgar, I began college in Winter 1967/68, after a bit of walkabout. In those times of universal draft, it seemed wise to enroll in ROTC (Reserve Officers’ Training Corps). I did well there; but I had to drop out of school because of family and money problems. While there, we all addressed one another as “Gentlemen”. Then I enlisted in the Regular Army, where we were all called “dickheads”. It was quite a contrast — left a lasting impression on me.

  19. Hi, Reader. You said,

    “I am only half kidding.”

    I think we all are. “Half-kidding” seems to be all the seriousness we can handle. The world has gone bat-crap crazy. In not too long a time, we will all stand before the Judgment Seat of God, at the entrance to eternity. There won’t be any half-kidding there — only unending bliss or unending horror; and with every threat our leaders give of pressing nuclear buttons, the Day of Judgment seems closer and closer.

  22. @Sebastien Zorn

    I knew exactly what you were referring to when I commented on it.

    In my opinion, it is worse than chutzpah, it is clearly an antisemitic action designed to thwart aliyah or to at least make a contentious issue of it.

    It is the same as conflating the issue of the rescue of Ukrainian Jews with the “plight of the Palestinian refugees”.

    I pointed out why it was happening – because Israel doesn’t want aliyah, otherwise there wouldn’t be a question about the poor Ukrainian refugees or poor Palestinian refugees.

    I knew that you don’t need standing to file a case there but I had no idea that there was a visaless entry for Ukrainians.

    This raises another question – why won’t they easily let the Ukrainian JEWS in using the same law? See the answer above?

    As far as I know, the Ukrainian Jews who are being rescued are transferred to a bunch of European countries instead of Israel.

    The Supreme Court should have thrown the lawsuit out without looking.

  23. @Reader I was referring to the chutzpah of the Ukrainian ambassador who should have no standing whatsoever in an Israeli court on the issue of who Israel allows in trying to get the court to rule that Israel has to allow in hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish refugees just because of a prior visa free agreement that had nothing to do with immigration but just routine visits. I hope the court strikes it down but it seems to think the whole world has standing on every issue anyone brings before it, unlike all the US courts all the way up that evaded hearing the evidence of 2020 election fraud on spurious grounds of standing but with comparable results!

    I really don’t trust open ended international treaties and conventions. They always get twisted into the opposite of what was intended in the end, and used as a weapon against Israel. This is a perfect example.

  24. @Michael S

    In the light of the latest DHS rules, this being ISRApundit, maybe we should switch to talking about something innocuous like new gardening technologies in Israel or something of that nature (while meditating ourselves into mental oblivion) – just to be on the safe side?

    I am only half kidding.

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  25. @MICHAEL S-
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    Nice that you think of me as a gentleman (if I get your meaning ), because I feel, act, and have the background of one., You also are a gentleman, whom, regardless of personal beliefs, I respect. The “officer and a gentleman, sir,” … became, and rightly so, more of a Music Hall” comedy quip.. For me, all on this site are Gentlemen and Ladies, unfortunately now a term now mostly seen on public washroom doors.

    I like to think that a gentleman, is often not “a gentleman born” but is one because of his behaviour. And have always thought that it was a silly class system that a 12 year old Midshipman could be an “officer and a gentleman”, on occasion, commanding 20-30-40 year old experienced seamen..

    Just like an Army subaltern.-or Ensign…..

    Michael, that song, I’ve heard it many a time in the old days on the radio.

    Always the same tune, sometimes different lyrics. There was also one “Over the Hills and over the Bounding Main”… Very old, maybe from the days of “Bonnie Prince Charlie”, or “The Wild Geese”.

    Jeffery Farnol wrote an interesting novel, “The Amateur Gentleman” set in, I think the late 18th early 19th Century, the Regency period.
    Main character Barnabas Barty, the son of a Chamipon of England (a prizefighter), and later proprietor of a sanded floor “pub”.. fell in love with an unknown girl, whom he met in several circumstances, turning out to be a Lady, daughter of an Earl or Duke.

    His own mother, also the daughter of an Earl or Duke, eloped with the Champion. So he inherited his mother’s gentility, and his father’s brawn and fighting capability. Also a first class horseman.

    He decides to go to London and mingle with the nobility, and become REAL bone fide Gentleman. He has an enemy, the spurned lover of the young lady.

    I liked the book enough to buy most of Farnol’s works. touched some sentimental, switch inside me.

  26. @SEBAASTIEN-

    I recall seeing that movie about George M. Cohan starring Jimmy Cagney. I saw it twice. I always liked Cagney and he was perfect for this movie.
    Great “gangster” too Much better than George Raft, ot Edward G.
    The grapefruit face treatment……All in all, although he was always Cagney, he could play any part, although not exactly a Laughton..

    Never could understand what they saw ijn Bogart, nor Sinatra. But little men in elevator shoes. Of course I knew the tune long before the movie.

    Radio Eireann played a lol this stuff pre television. Lots of John Charles Thomas, John MacCormack, Amelita, Josef Schmidt, Caruso, *I’ve heard that record, also MacCormack and others made many patriotic songs during that time. Allesandro, the last castrato, had a wonderful voice. Although he was very old in that record, maybe his last. “Ave Maria”.

    You bring back memories.

  30. @Sebastien Zorn

    Wow! talk about Chutzpah!

    Well, Israel doesn’t want the 200,000 Ukrainian Jews so the man wants to seize the opportunity to make Israel finance Ukrainian refugees instead of the Jewish aliyah.

  31. @Sebastien Zorn

    Why Some Jews Are Still Trapped In Ukraine

    Because Israel doesn’t want them.

    Why doesn’t Israel want them?

    Because they are old and/or poor and from Ukraine.

  35. PS, Edgar

    I forgot to answer you last time… No, my sweetie and I have not been vaxed, and we NEVER intend to. She was a nurse for over 50 years, and knows better.

    BTW Sebastien, I don’t want you to think I snubbed you by addressing “Over the Hill…” to Edgar. It has lots of “Gentlemen” stuff in it, which I think of when I think of Edgar. During the Vietnam War, I was in ROTC, right on course to become a “gentleman”; but then I ran out of funds and had to “list” to keep from being “prest”. I managed an early release, to avoid going “over the hills and o’er the main”; but who knows? Maybe under Sleepy Joe, we’ll al have another crack at it!

    Thanks, Sebastien, for the latest news of beating war drums.

  36. Hej, Edgar.

    I thought you might appreciate this, a song for the times:

    “Hark! now the Drums beat up again,
    For all true Soldiers Gentlemen,
    Then let us list, and march I say,
    Over the Hills and far away;

    Chorus:
    Over the Hills and o’er the Main,
    To [Poland and to the Ukraine],
    [Bide-Ann] commands, and we’ll obey,
    Over the Hills and far away.

    All Gentlemen that have a Mind,
    To serve the Queen that’s good and kind;
    Come list and enter into Pay,
    Then o’er the Hills and far away;
    Over the Hills, &c.

    Here’s Forty Shillings on the Drum,
    For those that Volunteers do come,
    With Shirts, and Cloaths, and present Pay,
    When o’er the Hills and far away;
    Over the Hills, &c.

    Hear that brave Boys, and let us go,
    Or else we shall be prest you know;
    Then list and enter into Pay,
    And o’er the Hills and far away;
    Over the Hills, &c.

    The Constables they search about,
    To find such brisk young Fellows out;
    Then let’s be Volunteers I say,
    Over the Hills and far away;
    Over the Hills, &c….”

    — https://www.compleatseanbean.com/sharpe30.html

  39. Remember when everybody thought Trump was working for the Russians, would trash the economy and get us in World War III? Pepperidge Farm Remembers and it turns out they were all off by one president.

    Cartoon that popped up on my FB newsfeed.

  41. Why Some Jews Are Still Trapped In Ukraine
    Many of the Jewish community and beyond have managed to escape to relative safety, for now. Some, however, are still left behind.
    Published: 15.02.22 15:40 Updated: 09.03.22 16:59

    The war in Ukraine continues to rage on, as Ukrainian towns are destroyed by bombs. Many of the Jewish community and beyond have managed to escape to relative safety, for now. Some, however, are still left behind: The sick, the eldery, and the poor.

    Many old and unwell residents of the Jewish community were not strong enough to make the trip with suitcase in hand to the border. For that reason many have had no choice but to stay behind in their homes, many of them accompanied by younger family members there to ensure their survival. Others were not able to afford the exorbitant fees to obtain a ride to the border.

    Grocery stores have been looted completely, and roads are unsafe to travel. Bombs continue to fall and destroy buildings.Their only resources are the few volunteers that have traveled into the country to help save their lives.

    These volunteers are collecting money via The Chesed Fund, together with an urgent video from Rabbi Paysach Krohn. Donations go toward food and other basic resources for those still trapped in Ukraine, as well as those who have escaped to the border but are running out of food.

    So far, donors have been able to help buy meals and toiletries, which have meant their survival. As the news grows old however, and international interest dwindles, will Ukraine’s Jews be left to starve?

    CLICK HERE TO HELP

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/322324

  42. @Sebastien Zorn

    Nuland said that these are the Ukrainian labs and that the US is working with the Ukrainians to prevent the stuff from falling into the hands of the Russian forces.

    And more recently I saw it printed somewhere that the US is denying that they ever had any labs there at all.

  45. The Ukraine situation has certainly revealed some remarkably clever-foolish posts. Or is it foolishly-clever…I thing the former. You will note that, due to my innate politeness, I refrain from using the more apt term “stupid”.

    I see that Official Jewish sources say that 300,000 Jews live in Ukraine.

  46. Nachman Shai must be removed from his position for incompetence – there are no Jewish refugees in Poland!

    Daily Briefing Mar. 9 – Minister Shai in Poland: ‘Israel must rescue more refugees’
    Brief interview with Diaspora Minister Shai; senior analyst Haviv Rettig Gur on race and responses to Ukraine; health reporter Nathan Jeffay with a blitz of new Israeli research
    By TOI staff Today, 2:03 pm

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/daily-briefing-mar-9-minister-shai-in-poland-israel-must-rescue-more-refugees/

    Have they all gone insane there?!

    Right on the same page there are articles about how Jewish families are hopelessly stuck in Ukraine!

  48. A weird situation – they claimed in the beginning that there are 200,000 Jews in Ukraine who are in danger now.

    YET, there doesn’t seem to be any concerted effort on the part of the Jewish State to get them out BUT there is some sort of an agreement to bring to Israel several thousand of non-Jewish refugees from Ukraine (I find it disgusting that the word olim is placed in quotation marks in the text):

    ‘Impossible’ rate

    Authorities say as many as 100,000 “olim” and their families could arrive from both Ukraine and Russia, evoking an earlier wave of about a million people who immigrated from the collapsing former Soviet Union.

    Interior minister Ayelet Shaked estimated Sunday that about 15,000 Ukrainians could reach Israel by the end of March, with 90 percent unqualified for “return” rights. She said that was an “impossible” rate for the country of 9.4 million people.

    “We are the insurance policy for the Jewish people,” Shaked, of Bennett’s religious nationalist Yamina party, told Israeli public radio.

    Israeli citizens who host non-Jewish Ukrainians who are not their immediate relatives must post a NIS 10,000 ($3,046) deposit per traveler, returnable when they depart.

    Diaspora Affairs Minister Nachman Shai wrote on Twitter: “Such a demand at this time is inhuman and immoral and prevents refugees fleeing the war and without family in Israel from seeking refuge here.”

    Ukraine’s ambassador to Israel, Yevgen Korniychuk, told reporters on Monday that an agreement had been reached on deposits for non-Jewish refugees and thanked Shaked, without providing specifics.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/northern-town-of-nof-hagalil-welcomes-fleeing-ukrainian-jews/

    This sounds very fishy to me.

    It looks like they actually want to prevent aliyah from Ukraine which, basically, brands them as murderers if there are 200,000 Jews in the war-tornUkraine, as was stated earlier.

    On the other hand, it appears that they are deliberately taking in non-Jewish refugees (are they being ordered to do this?)

  49. @Ted Belman

    I have removed the post on the alleged pogroms;. Ted Belman

    Funny, it happened at the same time when I tried to comment under that article (which didn’t work, so I’ll post it here).

    I will answer everyone: all Ukrainian Nazism, anti-Semitism and persecution of Jews exist only in the painful imagination of the authors of this garbage dump. R. Wilhelm

    Rabbi Wilhelm is lying here.

    And I mean LYING!!!