By Peloni
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@ Sebastian: You are a comedian.
@Honeybee
How do you imagine a military operation without destruction?
Would the US sit quietly if it were surrounded by foreign military bases capable of striking it with nuclear missiles?
If your answer is “No”, why would you demand the same from Russia?
For Russia, a nuclear NATO-aligned Ukraine is the same as a nuclear Russian-aligned Alaska would be for the US.
Why is it so hard to accept?
Is it because of the conviction that the US is entitled to rule the whole world including “Eurasia” and have the whole world forget their own languages and culture and switch to THE language (English) – it will be better for the Untermenschen anyway, they are just too stupid to understand it?
Honeybee
Russia made it clear that if Georgia and Ukraine became NATO powers that would be an existentialist issue just as Cuba was for JF Kennedy (Oct 16, 1962 – Oct 28, 1962) I recommend any video by John Meirsheimer who is recognised as an authority.
Ted: How can you support the destruction that Russia has visited on Ukraine. I can think of a cause that would require such an overaction.
Together with a Russian journalist, who has been living in Israel for many decades, I am writing an article in which we recommend a relationship between Russia and Europe.
It is a follow up to this article we wrote in 2016.
Contemplating, a US-Russia Alliance
Any suggestions or thoughts would be appreciated.
@Felix
No, they don’t. The post Soviet era has been a chaotic road of regime change, from Europe to the Middle East and back again to Europe. There is no reason to suspect this is not still the agenda of the day.
@Honeybee
Having read the other side, you are entitled to your opinion.
Ted: I read your comments carefully. I don’t agree with your assessment I regard the Russians as aggressors.
Peloni
The Russians are serious in using their term and since I so much respect them I respect them in this too. So I will stick by them.
What is far more important is that the American alliance does not want a settlement…as I said
They are being very much pushing risk and that worries greatly
@Honeybee.
You have bought into all the propaganda put out by the west. At a minimum you should know that there are two sides to every story. From what I have read I side with the Russians. The West has accused Russia of every known war crimes; genocide, rape, use of chemical weapons, intentionally killing of civilians.
I for one don’t believe it. The West has yet to offer enough evidence to substantiate their claims.
The last time you came to the side of the Ukrainians I and others offered you proof and facts to convince you that you were wrong. You obviously didn’t read our comments.
@Felix
Felix, it is ridiculous to suggest Russia’s “special operation” is not a war. Regardless of all other commentary, this rose by any other name is still a war. His tanks are in Ukraine, his army is in Ukraine, he is bombing Ukraine and he is demanding a political settlement. This is silly posturing that defies all reason and any reasonable explanation. But if you earnestly disagree, please explain…perhaps without ad hominem, if you find it possible.
It’s not a war. I think Russia called it a military action for s reason. They have zero interest in conquering Ukraine. They would like to be both on friendly terms. Above all for the Russian loving people in the East Ukraine not to be killed by the Fascist Azov (who link back to Stepan Bandera in the Holocaust) Putin is essentially a moderniser but he has run into deadly Russia hatred at the centre of Washington and the EU too it seems. Russia will not have nukes placed on its border. Looks like the West thinks that has to be done. Out of that situation which Russia definitely did not seek…we risk all life through nuclear war.
This rape issue what’s the source and what’s the evidence?
Felix, do you approve of the Russian troops raping Ukrainian women and girls? What in Heaven’s name does that have to do with avenging the Holocaust?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=4990836891024201&set=a.115392028568736
The Holocaust has nothing to do with Putin’s war of aggression and greed.
@ Felix: Don’t be lumping the IDF in with the Russians. The IDF defends the Jewish people against Islamic aggression. The Russians are thugs who bomb and kill defenseless Ukrainians.
If you find material on Ukrainians killing Jews or Romany in the Holocaust please publish it
https://jewishjournal.org/2022/04/01/a-ukrainian-directors-documentary-about-babyn-yar-massacre-of-jews-lands-in-an-unanticipated-context/
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-704326
@Edgar @Edgar I’ll have to look up “The Maggie.” Paul Douglas is one of my favoriite actors. Unfortunately, he died shortly after making this film in his late 50s. Billly Wilder had just offered him the role that went to Fred McMurray in “The Apartment” starring Jack Lemmon and Shirley Maclaine.
“Holliday was born Judith Tuvim (she took her stage name from yom tovim, which is Hebrew for “holidays”) in New York City, the only child of Abe and Helen (née Gollomb) Tuvim. Her father was executive director of the foundation for the Jewish National Fund of America (1951–1958),[2][3] and a socialist activist who ran unsuccessfully six times between 1919 and 1938 as the Socialist Party candidate for the New York state Legislature.[4] Her mother taught piano. Both were of Russian-Jewish descent.[5][6] Judith grew up in Sunnyside, Queens, New York, and graduated from Julia Richman High School in Manhattan. Her first job was as an assistant switchboard operator at the Mercury Theatre, which was administered by Orson Welles and John Houseman.[7][8]” – Wikipedia
I subbed in an orchestra that rehearsed and performed at Julie Richmond High School. It’s on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.
I believe that the Holocaust is at the centre of the war. About 80 years ago and that is just one lifetime. But it is greatly significant that there is total blackout silence. Why? It puzzles me a little.
Hmmm. I am reminded of: ”
“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — ‘Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.’ — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson, Self-Reliance
Who was Leon Trotsky?Jewish Biography as History Dr. Henry Abramson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DZDbSzr-Q
This answers a few questions, like how Jews came to be identified with communism, Red Army’s protection of Jews, etc.
@SEBASTIEN-
Posting on here has become something like “The Phantom Of The Opera”, or even “Trilby” both books that I actually have. The Du Maurier book is a 1st Edition.
I’m saying this, because the post in which I asked why Jews would be wearing turbans etc (answering your actually interesting post, even if you now say you exaggerated-it was a very good read)…
Well that post of mine is MISSING, has vanished, disappeared, vamoosed, scarpered, scrammed.. It’s gone….! It may be there but I couldn’t find it.
As Florian Slappy would say. “It has suddenlyb become “went”….!!
@Edgar I was exaggerating. I went to an ashram in Brooklyn once filled with jews wearing turbans like the actual Indian, Sikh, really, yogis. I guess because they don’t cut their hair. Lot of turbaned Sikh cab drivers who recognized my mantras, ha ha.. Anyway, most of us didn’t do anything special clothing wise other than wearing loose fitting clothing when doing yoga, like now. They have yoga and meditation at many Jewish Community Centers, though I didn’t and don’t belong to one. One of the classes I took was in the basement of a local Methodist Church. I did cub scouts there, too. Never set foot in their chapel. Very ecumenical. They hosted a synagogue that was under construction and now they are hosting an art movie house that was torn down elsewhere. That being said, I don’t know if I’ve made this observation here, but I have noticed that so many of the world’s religions have men cover their heads in such a way as to conveniently cover a bald spot. I could use such an excuse, myself, ha ha. I did take singing lessons from a cantor in a Conservative synagogue here that has since closed and been replaced with a Young Israel, which is Modern Orthodox.
@SEBASTIEN-
The fist time I’ve heard this. VERY humourous, and, could at times be accurate. Sounds like something Jackie Mason would say. And this is a great compliment.
Rudi Giuliani tells Eric Mataxas about conspiracy of the Bidens, Obama, Soros, et al; smoking gun on Laptop from Hell
https://rumble.com/v10np9r-mayor-rudy-giuliani-on-his-mayoral-success-and-role-in-the-trump-administra.html
@Edgar “The Orthodox say, “Hashem,” The Conservative say, “Adonai,” The Reform say, “Our lord who art in heaven,” and the Reconstructionists say, “To Whom it May Concern.” ‘
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“At an Orthodox wedding, the bride’s mother is pregnant. At a Conservative wedding, the bride is pregnant. At a Reform wedding, the rabbi is pregnant. At a Reconstructionist wedding, the rabbi and her wife are both pregnant.”
VERY bad news in Shanghai:
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2022/04/08/did-china-just-invade-shanghai-n1587965
@SEBASTIEN-
I’v e just read your link, and to me it’s all twaddle. Lots of ifs, thens. and maybes. .Personally Bennett has shown that he is thoroughly untrustworthy. a schemer and plotter.,
In my opinion, although nothing in politics is permanent, which shows what a stinking fish it is, this article reminded me most forcibly of the political career of Shaul Mofaz, whom you may recall. He swore that he was a permanent LIKUD supporter, and THE VERY NEXT DAY, jumped to Kadima, which was wiped out in the next election, whereupon he retired from politics.
In my references to him during that period I used to refer to him as the grasshopper.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/325443
TED my last 3 chit-chats have been junked or otherwise “went”.
What’s happeneing>>>?
@PELONI-
You are succinct in focussing right on the main point in a discussion. Then you surround it with reams of corroborating evidence, and roam far afield in your exposition. All very interesting to me personally, as I like to read, understand and follow lines of thought . Like a Rabbi’s after dinner speech at a wedding, you roam far afield,. but gradually bring back the direction to the original principle.
My opinion, and would never criticise you for “overkill”. I enjoy good prose.
Adam’s posts, I also enjoy, apart from the often relevant content, contents, for the very same reason.
TED A post of mine has vanished. It dealt with all democratic countries being capiatlist in economic relations with other countries and socialistic in theie domestic policies.
So all the gabble-gable criticism of about Marxist, Trotskyist, this-ist and that-ist are extraneous to Democratic countries. My opinion, open to correction AND explanation.
@Edgar
Yes, it is a great crime that such a man at the height of his personal success took on such a task and has paid such a significant price in the battle to reform his nation, the lone super-power, which reflected more generally on the world and quite specifically on Israel. It is amazing what he achieved against such great odds even as his plans were only half revealed.
By the way, you are the first to ever describe me as succinct, LOL. I will have to quote you on this some day, LOLOL
PELONI-
Your succinct, highly accurate description of Trump’s assets, are right on the mark, and exactly my own, although I do not express them as well.
And it is a constant puzzle to me that every politician in every country in the world, as well as all their citizens, do not see it the same way that we do. They should be thankful that such a brilliant, liberal feeling, activist is living today at such a time of deep crisis.
The crimes that the Democrats committed in depriving him of his easily won Presidency, and their unsuccessful attempt to totally ruin his first stint, should go down in history as the greatest political scandal of all times. Far worse than such as “The Teapot Dome”. and other s like that
Considering what he accomplished in his past White House term, whilst mired in fake scandals and hoaxes, as well as hindered by disloyal aides, was almost miraculous. Just imagine what he could have done, unhampered .
We’d have had a new, far safer world today, and a booming Israel, already planning to extend into all parts of our Land when the 4 year moratorium ended.
With all this talk about Socialism and Capitalism and this-ism and that-ism, we have ben, in my opinion missing the real point. And it has been valid for many years, without being openly stated.
That is, that all Democratic nations, are Capitalistic in their economic policies and trading between nations. AND.. in their domestic policies are basically socialistic in practice.
A successful nation preserves a nice balance between the two.
I would appreciate it if someone pointed out to me where I am wrong- accompanied by an explanation.
@Felix
The relevance of Trump’s competence in negotiations is what makes him so valuable in any given crisis. He knows the best won battles are those that are not fought and this would be his manner in responding to Russia. As I stated before, he would use non-military tactics to end the war, and military tactics if pressed to do so, but he would not be, not by Putin because Putin knows a fight with the US is not one he can win. Though Putin has an agenda to secure his security concerns, he would not force a war he could not win towards this agenda, or he would have done so when Trump first began arming the Ukrainians. Neither Trump nor Putin wants war, and Putin’s demands were always reasonable, and in line with Trump’s agenda, again I explained this previously.
This is not true, not in the least and does not call for any serious response.
I believe Israel should walk a tight line with the US as Bibi has done over the past more than 10yrs and assert Israels concerns with an open and honest voice. If the US demands she steer from her own interests, it is the US that is introducing daylight in the relationship between the two and Israel should never acquiesce to such follies as they have, simply to preserve a toxic relationship, which is the best way I would describe the US demand that Israel accept an existential threat without responding. There is no need for Israel to “break totally” from the US any more than the US breaks from Israel. To this point, Israel can pivot to Russia or China, but this must be done with more precision, care and competence than is present in this current charade of an America First govt in Jerusalem.
@Felix
The relevance of Trump’s competence in negotiations is what makes him so valuable in any given crisis. He knows the best won battles are those that are not fought. As I stated before, he would use non-military tactics to end the war, and military tactics if pressed to do so, but he would not be, not by Putin because Putin knows a fight with the US is not one he can win. Though Putin has an agenda to secure his security concerns, he would not force a war he could not win towards this agenda, or he would have done so when Trump first began arming the Ukrainians. Neither Trump nor Putin wants war, and Putin’s demands were always reasonable, and in line with Trump’s agenda, again I explained this previously.
@Felix
This conclusion of yours is actually a demonstrably false presumption. More than 9/10 of Europe is run by socialist govts and are organized under the EU and NATO banners. The EU are restricting the non-socialist states to adopt more socialist policies, which only include Poland and Hungary, while NATO seeks out non-socialist states to overthrow, as not one of the nations targeted by NATO for regime change practiced any Socialist type govt.
Meanwhile, Putin is not a communist, but an authoritarian who pursues a market based govt, far better than most recently. Ukraine is an authoritarian state which is run as a plutocratic organization, though it is presented as a democratic nation, and I am given to understand their elections are as legitimate as those in the US, which makes sense, but is irrelevant to the fight against world Socialism. Even the Nazi menace within the Ukrainian state, which is limited but powerful, is focused upon a racial distinction with the Russo-ethnic Ukrainians, and is not based on their practice of Socialism.
And it is what it is and was at the beginning and WILL ALWAYS BE
To fight against a world socialism commonwealth
What does that matter. He is Fascistic in America and seeks to use first strike nuclear against Russia.
Israel must break totally from the United States of America in total and become the independent Jewish State
https://worldisraelnews.com/im-palestinian-says-arab-israeli-actor-who-rose-to-fame-on-fauda/
Trump’s request for the judge to be recused in his Rico case against Clinton was granted.
Found it https://www.silverdoctors.com/headlines/world-news/10-times-god-hit-america-with-a-major-disaster-after-the-us-tried-to-divide-the-land-of-israel/
This is a reprint minus the ending. The original article ends by saying the curse may have been lifted because Trump was elected and was undoing the damage at the UN.
But, I have noticed that the dates of Trump’s peace plan and the China Virus coincide. Now we have Biden and even more disasters. The political portion was released and the first case was detected in the US in late January, 2020.
@Felix
It would appear that you are correct, but only if you believe that Trump would react as a petty tyrant which you likely assume him to be, but which, in point of fact, I can assure you, he is not.
Trump is a brilliant negotiator. Having a background in business, I can tell you the best way to win an argument, or succeed in any negotiation, is to recognize what motivates those with whom you are negotiating. Regarding Russia, and Putin more directly, the thing that makes him tick is his devotion to his nation. He is no saint, but he values the state of affairs for the Russian state and the Russian oligarchs, his own position and power, and the comforts and desires of his people taken as a whole. I think this is a fair statement of fact and each of these would be upset, crippled actually, should the US raise oil production such that it should fall below $30 a barrel or even far less than this. Such a possibility presents a serious potential threat to Russia that Trump could, should and would employ to put the Russian onslaught in Ukraine back into a position of dormancy that it occupied prior to the president leaving the White House. Whatever Trump cares to threaten Putin with, be it arms to Ukraine, or war with the US, the real threat to Putin has nothing to do with the military and Putin is quite aware of this fact, as is Trump. Likely, this was factored into Putin’s call to action, since Trump is not in the White House threatening him with a Russo-American conflict, something Russia could have no expectation of successfully winning and, again, Putin knows this very well.
I do respect the need for Russia’s security concerns to be addressed, but however it will be addressed as a result of this current conflict, it will likely be completed prior to Trump’s return to office. Russia has completely exposed the deep divisions in the NATO alliance as to various competing interests across the 30 member states. Actually, I have not a great deal of confidence that the alliance will ever be as unified on European issues as it once was, given this apparent breach now being fully demonstrated. This may bring the alliance back into a proper accordance with its original purpose, but I suspect that would be expecting more responsibility than is likely to be demonstrated by the power-soaked institution that NATO has become. Hence, I am not completely sure how this matter will come to a close, but I do presume that Ukraine will not vanquish the Russian forces and Russia will ultimately be satisfied as she currently holds all the cards that her enemies need. Still, history is sometimes more complicated than we would like to presume, so we shall see how it unfolds.
Regardless, though, I noted previously that there is absolutely no relationship between my position supporting Trump and that of recognizing the fact that Russia has a right to secure her own security interests. Had Trump been in the White House, this war would never have come to fruition. Zelensky would have kept his threats silent as he did prior to Trump’s displacement which would have prevented a great deal of the building tensions that brought about the invasion. There might have been an attempt to resolve the center of European corruption that has come to be known as Ukraine, but it would not have been conducted at the point of military conflict between anyone, as Trump has no interest in war and had many ways to seek a peaceful outcome without the use of arms. Also, eliminating Ukrainian corruption was always very much in the interest of Trump’s presidency as it would expose the billion dollar frauds that funds both the Dem’s war machine and the Deep State operations, both of which used those funds to targeted Trump during the whole of his first administration, and, consequently, prevented him from actually negotiating anything with the Russians.
Given the war between Ukraine and Russia, the US will sell significant arms to Ukraine, but the peace will be secured by some geopolitical security arrangement which will satisfy and include Russia, and hopefully not Israel, who has no damned interest in that squalid European cesspool.
Hope this is a more meaningful answer to this question than my prior answer which seemed to explain why I would support Trump, but failed to explain why this support is in no way contradictory to my belief that all nations have a right to have their security concerns satisfied, most significantly those who can conduct disproportionate wars on unruly neighboring states.
Do you know that every time an American President came up with a plan to divide the land of Israel, America suffered unrelated natural, manmade and political disasters? A couple of Christian evangelicals noted it. One, William Koenig, “Eye to Eye” Through Bush. Amazon has it. Another in an article I can’t find now, “Ten Times God Punished America” for trying to divide the land Israel, through Obama. I noticed that Covid broke out at the same time that Trump and Kushner oresented their peace plan.
I’m not religious. But 99 percent of applied science is based on noting reliable coincidences.
@Edgar But, as withRes 242’s careful wording and Bush’s guarantees to Sharon that Obama disregarded, and as with San Remo-Palestine Mandate-UN charter, under another president, not to mention Oslo, all anybody would remember is Israel agreeing to fakestinian statehood, not the preconditions. It was right to reject it. Better to maintain the principle and wait for better times. Time is on Israel’s side, if she doesn’t give away the store for illusory short term advantage or grasping at utopia.
Though, looking at what’s happening now, might it it not have been better to accept it and secure the Jewish communities, holy sites and the Jordan Valley?
@ Edgar absolutely! @Felix The world was more at peace under Trump than under any other president in our lifetimes. By securing the peace through strength, as well as skillful strategies and effective incentives and turning America into an energy exporter we were on the verge of a new era. Biden’s mishandling of Iran, energy, Afghanistan, and Hamas/Houthis has once more generated an Obama style world conflagration.
@SEBASTIEN-
And, lest we forget, the understanding, I think it was a part of the final documents, was that the ARABS had 4 years, to straightne themselves out into a working mini-state, or then Israel could expand right throughout the remaining 70%.
He knew that the Arabs had already turned it down without even looking at it, so the Accords included “Israel, you are free, after 4 years, to populate the whole Land at your leisure”…
Trump has ALWAYS been good for the Jews as was his father before him, funding Kibbutzim and Moshavim….and helping in many other ways.
Hi, Peloni
Jack Prosobiec seems to agree with you (as do I):
https://rumble.com/vzoal3-jack-posobiec-orbans-populist-nationalism.html
Peloni
But your favourite child in short pants slobbering away there is not taking your line at all.
Indeed this guy Trump last I heard him very recently was gearing to launch nuclear wipeout on Russia.
You seem to be in a very hypocritical position Peloni.
Are you not Peloni?
Please explain how Biden and Trump when it comes to Russia are not United.