Peloni: Granting statehood to the very people who participated in October 7 and who still celebrate the savagery committed over a year ago are the price which Trump will trade for Saudi normalization? Nonsense. The only use of Saudi normalization is greater stability in the region, and carving a state for the Pals out of Israel will achieve the complete opposite of this, and this fact can not be wasted on anyone involved in pursuing such a deal. The Saudi’s have always proven themselves to be excellent negotiators, but they will negotiate on behalf of their interests, not on behalf of that of the Pals, who have only ever had a destabilizing effect on the region.
An Israeli expert recently stated in an interview that U.S. President-elect Donald Trump is likely to pressure Israel to address various demands outlined by the Saudi Kingdom as prerequisites for any normalization agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia.
Dr. Shay Har-Zvi, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Policy and Strategy at Reichman University in Israel said: “Trump will likely push hard to advance normalization efforts from the outset and may pressure Netanyahu to be more flexible in meeting the demands of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman – particularly on ending the war in Gaza and signaling a political horizon for the Palestinians,” Har-Zvi told Israeli news site Maariv, with excerpts translated by The Jerusalem Post.
Har-Zvi added that Trump views achieving lasting peace in the region as one of his objectives, with Israel-Saudi normalization being integral to this vision.
“Failure to achieve normalization could hinder efforts to form a regional coalition against Iran and would forfeit economic opportunities for both the Middle East and the US,” he said.
The warming of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia has diminished since the war began in the Gaza Strip, with the crown prince, MBS, even accusing Israel of committing genocide.
“The kingdom renews its call for a categorical rejection of the genocide committed by Israel against the brotherly Palestinian people,” the Saudi leader said.
According to MBS, Israel’s approach to the war has undermined “efforts to obtain the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people in establishing peace in the region.”
Saudi leaders have consistently maintained that normalization with Israel will only occur after an independent Palestinian state is established.
“We have no relationship with Israel,” Saudi Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan said last year.
Our priority is to resolve the humanitarian situation in Gaza. Our priority is the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the establishment of an independent Palestinian state before normalization with Israel.”
Netanyahu always says something that the majority wants to hear and then betrays.
The same ones who bowed to Hamas, will give Gaza and Judea and Samaria to the Arabs for their 24th state.
The voters in Israel have NO influence on the decisions of their politicians (same as everywhere these days), it is all about marketing and theater, and the PTB rejoicing in our stupidity.
READ THIS and find out who is in charge:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/387757
@Edgar
I agree 1000%. Not a chance that this limp fish will ever swim again. It was well and done before October 7, even as it still had its supporters, but October 7 changed many things, and all of these changes stand in stark opposition to the TSS being revived by any serious party in Israel.
Also, it isn’t even about Bibi, nor Likud, nor the Right. There is just no political base which could erase or ignore the political shift which took place in the Israeli body politic following October 7.
Edgar maybe right.
All may not be as it seems. 4 days to go.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/hamas/accusing-hamas-of-backtracking-netanyahu-refuses-to-convene-cabinet-debate-on-hostage-deal/2025/01/16/
@Edgar G.
The PM has also sworn repeatedly that the war will not stop until Hamas ceases to exist.
AND…?
The saddest part is that there is no one to replace him – they are all like that or worse – all they are capable of is theatrical performances to put the Jews to sleep (very successfully – because they WANT to be put to sleep, in more ways than one, rather than to be deprived of their illusions).
The miracle of the Jewish State after the Holocaust is being destroyed by Jews themselves.
THERE- will be NEVER be a 2 State solution on any land that Israel has a claim to.
Firstly, the San Remo and Sevres diktats are still in irrevocable force.
Although it conveniently avoids it, the facts are deeply fixed in the UN Constitution itself.
Israel has an authentic LEGAL claim signed by 51 major nations, (at least all the Major Nations signed and the US approved unanimously.)
Secondly Israel is so very small that there is NO space tor a landlocked beggar terrorist state right alongside, for Israel to permit it. A long, porous border means lifelong terrorism. Israel MUST retain the Jordan Valley and the Height’s overlooking Jordan-and Israel.
No it’s just unbelievable….will never happen, besides the PM has sworn repeatedly that under HIS control there will never be a 2SS.
I believe him, but the preceding reasons are more concrete and factual.
Terrible Surrender and Appeasement Deal
https://lel817.substack.com/p/terrible-surrender-and-appeasement
For once I agree with fquigley regarding Trump and MAGA.
Evri, please stop spinning. Trump went on X praising the deal. Of course, by making it happen before he officially takes office, he has plausible deniability that he had anything to do with it when it all comes crashing down. At that point he will put all the blame on Biden and gaslight us that he had no role in it. His MAGA army like the good soldiers they are will all follow suit. That’s what this conman Trump excels at, causing damage and then setting up others for the blame. This happened with Afghanistan. It was Trump who actually made the deal with the taliban to facilitate our withdrawal. So, when Biden pulled out our forces to abide by the deal Trump made and which Trump had every intention of doing had he won, Biden was the one who got all the blame when it went awry. Lucky SOB that Trump is, losing in 2020 actually benefited him in that way. People say the 13 soldiers would not have been killed under Trump, but we don’t know that. That’s not to say Biden is blameless, but Trump shares equal blame for what has unfolded in Afghanistan since our withdrawal. It emboldened Xi and Iran and hamas who learned that America has no staying power,
Sebastien Zorn
Even you cannot draw the lesson
“On the other hand, a hopeful interview of Victor Davis Hansen by Caroline Glick. 10 hours ago. 4 days to go, 3 to the disastrous hostage deal if it goes through. Talk about a nail biter. I like both of them very much. I always learn a lot.”
https://youtu.be/X9KyeZQgRDE
It was really a case of the befuddled interviewing the befuddled
That Caroline Glick should be interviewing this apologist for MAGA tells it’s own story.
Glick has long lost her bearings and this has finalised it.
She has all the time been spinning this “Waiting for Trump” syndrome
But it hasn’t paid off for Jews. It was entrapment as is every bit of MAGA especially it’s hatred of all things relating to defending the earth by defending earth from profit pursuit. Which is the real essence of Trump and Maga
Jews have paid dearly for that form of philosophy. The tragedy is that it’s not a natural thing for Jews to follow at all because they are in essence a spiritual people
Sebastien Zorn
Speaking about the intelligent and principled hostage families
“If it’s not just a bluff, this will deal a serious blow to both Bibi and Trump though maybe they just want to be able to say that Hamas wouldn’t agree to forestall the usual left-wing insurrection. Hoping against hope.”
The deceit of America is unending. How to keep up with it is a mystery.
Clear they copied the British (good cop bad cop, Labour Tory transitions)
Need to be questioning everything about their essence.
And build a physical alternative especially on Global Warming and protection of our earth.
They do not tell the truth about anything.
This deceit is examplified by latest apologetics from Laura Ingraham.
Jews will be revolted. Her lies reach the depths.
Sebastien Zorn
“@Peloni On the other hand, a hopeful interview of Victor Davis Hansen by Caroline Glick”
https://youtu.be/X9KyeZQgRDE
There was none of the usual smug swagger we had come to know from these two people.
Hansen we have come to know as the ultimate Maga madness personified
And Caroline had led into this trap every fancy studio backdrop along her way of deceit.
It takes more than an expensive mic to tell the truth
And what a trap was set for the Jews.
What sophisticated deceit is coming out of MAGA and what a long time it has been happening on Israpundit and what a conflicting change has happened on israpundit since the early 90s
Evri writes
“I doubt that this idea is coming from Trump, but it is in the interest of the deep state to make it seem like it is; it’s a way of dividing Israel from Trump or getting Israelis angry or anxious even before Trump is sworn in.
This is mischief. See it for what it is.”
There’s a certain type of American Jew who thinks through conspiracy and you despite your great pretentions…that’s what you do.
But…it was trump the MAGA MAN who did screw the Jews.
And you aided him
(In screwing the Jews)
@Peloni On the other hand, a hopeful interview of Victor Davis Hansen by Caroline Glick. 10 hours ago. 4 days to go, 3 to the disastrous hostage deal if it goes through. Talk about a nail biter. I like both of them very much. I always learn a lot.
https://youtu.be/X9KyeZQgRDE
Sebastien Zorn and Reader…I have read your long pieces and could sum up the lessons
Israel and Jews do the dieing while all varieties of Americana self preens.
I say though
MAGA GO TO HELL!
Edgar
“It looks as if I was wrong….but we don’t really know the true terms yet.
In any case I am tremendously disappointed at the way things look now.
Although generally speaking Trump will not be against but be for Israel.”
End of quote
Such is the inherent power of this issue to our civilization we do indeed know the new reality under trump and his swash buckling MagaManiacs (who stands for DRILL BABY DRILL as the resultant Global Warming of our earth will cause billions to perish)
At the end of the day Trump has stepped in decisively to squash Netanyahu on the head.
The policy of waiting for Donny’s help has proven totally counter productive.
As Biden dodders about it has taken the Big Chief of MAGA to step in and confound all of Trump supporters on israpundit.
As the IDF laid it’s soldier youth reserves on the battlefield the big chief of America steps in.
What woe for Jews that Israel could never develop a leadership closer to Leon Trotsky than Caroline Glick.
Now it is all systems go as the reactionaries gather around Trump.
No we do not need to know any more about the deal.
The devotion of republican Jews to Trump has ended up with Jews being well and truly deceived. Trump has no principles any more than Biden.
The deal is written in black and white and it cannot be changed.
The American people have succeeded in screwing Israel just as surely as did the Democrats.
MAGA GO TO HELL!
@ Laura
You are right 100% (and I was right, too – Biden and Trump are NOT enemies, they work together when necessary):
“Peace through strength” here means pushing Israel to sign peace of the grave agreements.
SEB-
It looks as if I was wrong….but we don’t really know the true terms yet.
In any case I am tremendously disappointed at the way things look now.
Although generally speaking Trump will not be against but be for Israel.
But her paper disagrees with her? Will she fire this author the way she did Caroline Glick?
https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/01/15/why-is-trump-pushing-israel-toward-a-bad-deal/
A weird twist.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-837566
“Two Arab officials told The Times of Israel that during the meeting, Witkoff pressed Netanyahu to agree to critical compromises needed for a deal. According to the officials, Trump’s envoy achieved more in one discussion to influence the prime minister than outgoing President Joe Biden had managed throughout the year.”
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/qatar/trumps-envoy-who-squeezed-netanyahu-for-hamas-concessions-involved-in-qatari-business/2025/01/15/
I’m behind on this whole issue. It will be interesting to see how this settles out. I generally side with Edgar on this situation. I’m thinking with Bibi’s recent health issues, maybe…. just maybe he is about to be replaced. As far as Trump turning against Israel…. We better hope not or LA fires will be the least of our sorrows.
SEB-
No I didn’t ignore it. I always wait to see if speculation actually happens. It hasn’t happened and “There’s many a slip twixt cup and lip”.
Even if Trump actually is trying to force a disadvantageous dea; on Israel, he’ll know it’s bad for Israel and will go a different route.
I feel this but don’t know.
In the meantime nothing is yet decided AND carried out.
I think that the Trumps -father and son-, have/had a kind of superstitious feeling about Jews, the most remarkable People in History, and that everyone who was against them, came to a bad end.
Both hardheaded business-men, not given to foolish actions.
@Sebastien
That was an important conversation between Gadi and Mike. Thanks
Pro-Iran Mullah to deliver benediction at inauguration
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/yeshiva-university-president-controversial-imam-to-give-trump-inaugural-benedictions/2025/01/14/
@Peloni Gadi Taub and Mike Doran discussing whether Trump has embraced Biden’s policies. Just popped up and started listening to it. 3 hours ago.
https://youtu.be/_HQ-QLb8ek8?si=KlhV_KDZpR00ekNl
@Edgar You ignored the first part of the sentence:
I take anything in Haaretz with a sack of salt but I just googled: Trump hostage deal and this came up:
“Analysis | Trump’s Mideast Envoy Forced Netanyahu to Accept a Gaza Plan He Repeatedly Rejected
Israeli sources say that the involvement of the incoming U.S. administration, led by Trump’s aggressive Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, revived hostage talks with Hamas. While Netanyahu’s propaganda machine claims that Trump has left him no choice, what happens inside his coalition will determine whether the prime minister approves the deal”
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-13/ty-article/.premium/trumps-mideast-envoy-forced-netanyahu-to-accept-a-gaza-plan-he-repeatedly-rejected/00000194-615c-d4d0-a1f4-fbfdce850000
“How Joe Biden’s work, with Donald Trump’s pressure, brought a hostage deal – analysis”
“Vice President-elect JD Vance explained on Sunday: “Allowing Israel to dismantle Hamas’s last battalions is what Trump means by ‘all hell’ [will break loose].”
“Witkoff and McGurk have worked closely together over the past few days, and there is a consensus between the outgoing and incoming administrations. This is remarkable, given that they disagree on most issues, and it is probably what further closed the gap between Israel and Hamas and the points they disagree on.
Trump will take credit, saying his threats are what closed the deal. Biden will say the deal that was closed was the one he presented back in May. That the deal was closed thanks to American pressure will hopefully be something the two could agree on.”
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-837380
On the other hand, in Musk’s defence
“Musk calls for treating Gaza like Japan, Germany after WWII
“Billionaire Elon Musk called for eliminating Hamas and then treating Gaza the way the US treated Germany and Japan after World War II.
In a post on X, Musk shared his virtual conversation with Alice Weidel, co-leader of Germany’s Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party, on Thursday. The conversation discussed many topics, including the situation in Gaza and Israel.
According to Musk, three steps need to be taken to protect Israel.
“There’s no choice but to eliminate those who wish to eliminate the state of Israel, you know Hamas essentially, and then the second step is to fix the education so that Palestinians are not trained from when they are children to hate, to want the death of Israel, so you’ve got to fix the education system,” said Musk.
READ: Qassam Brigades: ‘Most of the enemy’s captives in northern Gaza are missing’
He added: “Then the third thing which is also very important is to make the Palestinian areas prosperous. This third step is very important and this this may this is maybe the hardest step, but you have to have that third step. You have to bring prosperity and you have to help rebuild.”
According to Musk, he spoke to many people in Isreal, who asked when this step had worked in the past, to which he responded: “After World War I the Treaty of Versailles was extremely unfair to Germany and it created a massive amount of resentment.”
“The lesson was learned is after World War II, when Germany and Japan were defeated, the US actually helped rebuild Japan and Germany providing financial support to rebuild Japan and Germany and now Japan and Germany are allies,” he continued, noting that there had been no war with those countries since and that the same should be done with Gaza.”
This is an anti-Israel website but it includes the link on X to the interview with Musk which I have not listened to.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250111-musk-calls-for-treating-gaza-like-japan-germany-after-wwii/
I was looking for the article I read the other day that said Musk said that every member of Hamas must be captured or killed.
“Hegseth: ‘I Support Israel Destroying, Killing Every Last Member of Hamas’”
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/hegseth-i-support-israel-destroying-killing-every-last-member-of-hamas/2025/01/14/
Laura,
I’m awake…wide awake. “trouble” is a very misunderstood word, it has dozens of shaded meanings.
And from Trump’s previous recent statements, and well known total support for Israel going back for most of his life;
I’d say the trouble would NOT be for Israel but it’s enemies.
Just my view of the threat.
@Laura
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/402270
“Hostages’ families attack Defense Minister: ‘What Katz did was selektion’
Family members of hostages in Gaza disrupted the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee session protesting the emerging deal that will only bring some of the hostages home in its first stage.”
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/402267
“Coalition members oppose ceasefire deal with Hamas
Ten members of Israel’s coalition sent letter to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, urging him to oppose the proposed deal with Hamas.”
“Ten members of Israel’s coalition, alongside the Hagvura Forum for families of those killed in the war and the Tikva Forum for families of hostages, wrote a harsh letter to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and government ministers, urging them to oppose the proposed ceasefire-prisoner swap deal with the Hamas terror group.”
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/402217
If it’s not just a bluff, this will deal a serious blow to both Bibi and Trump though maybe they just want to be able to say that Hamas wouldn’t agree to forestall the usual left-wing insurrection. Hoping against hope.
@Laura
I hope to God, Trump doesn’t fall into the pattern of Republican presidents who betrayed Israel after coming across as a true friend in his second term. All we can do is wait and see. He has good people around him like Mike Huckabee who are telling him the truth, I am sure, but the ball is in his court.
You make a valid point. One I have made myself over the years. But, this might be another factor in Trump’s calculus, splitting his base and hurting the U.S. arms industry which anchors the economy.
“Republicans blame Biden admin for Israel’s decision to seek ‘armament independence’
‘Israel’s interest in reducing dependence on the United States is the predictable outcome of the Biden Administration’s policy of withholding arms sales,’ Sen. Jim Risch said
https://jewishinsider.com/2025/01/israel-u-s-arms-sales-armament-independence-biden-administration/
We need to call out Trump as much as Biden should such a deal be made and not give him a free pass. Edgar, Trump is 100% for himself. He wants the optics of having hostages released on his inauguration. Prove me wrong that he isn’t just another self-serving politician who will place his own political interest above the future of Israel’s security. Trump may even achieve only what Biden was desperately trying to do which was cow Israel into submission. I have no doubt Trump is placing immense pressure on Bibi. Suddenly Peloni is silent.
– Axell, Albert. “Russia’s Heros 1941-45.” Carroll and Graf Publishers. New York. pp. 76-77, chapter entitled, “Stalin’s Son” [Yakov.] Almost done with it. A book somebody on Israpundit recommended a long time ago. Stalin was a monster but, in this case, well-said.
“And what would other fathers say?” Should be put on signs answering the families of hostages who want only their loved ones to be released and don’t care about the others left behind and the leftists who manipulate them with the backing of the Biden regime, not to mention the future victims who will be kidnapped and murdered by the released terrorists and those they train and the Israeli reservists who will die in the next war and the next assuming Israel survives. Sinwar was one of those demons who were released in exchange for Gilad Shalit, you may recall. Now, his brother is putting Hamas back together. Hamas is recruiting.
Relevant gallows humor from Israel. The great Yohay Sponder. “Never Again.”
https://youtu.be/FxREob1ocB8?si=E66M4nWEgGL2e27A
Edgar wake up. That headline specifically said:
Trump: We’re Very Close to a Hostage Deal, or There’ll Be Trouble
Let’s just hope Bibi has the strength to stand up to Trump as he did with Biden. It will be much harder for him to resist Trump because there will be no one to push back against Trump’s bullying of Bibi. No members of the GOP and no phony talk radio or tv hosts will have Bibi’s and Israel’s back as they did with Biden. Ironically Israel would actually be better off with Biden since he was able to defy Biden with the confidence that the GOP would have his back. On the other hand, Trump can push the same policy and the GOP won’t say a damn thing against him. Israel may be in a far worse predicament with Trump in the White House ironically because he will have no opposition should he stab Israel in the back. The GOP are completely cowed by Trump.
READER-
That’s Biden.Obama/Harris’s US. NOT Trump’s.
I won’t believe it until I see it. Trump is unequivocally for Israel100%.
And he’s reasonable enough to brook discussion or argument.
HIs comment is being misconstrued by onspiracy devotees, yet we must keep all options open until deal is finally presented.
A 14 week moratotium to allow Hamas to regroup and re arm is a NO GO.
Also 1000 bloody handed terrorists in exchange is also a NO…!!
And hostages released in dribs and drabs …also a NO.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us-news/trump-were-very-close-to-a-hostage-deal-or-therell-be-trouble/2025/01/14/
Very disappointing. I voted for Bush in 2004 because I liked his first term. I hope this isn’t going to be a replay of history.
Leave hostages behind, release terrorists, let Hamas prepare for the next Oct. 7th? And whenever any nation, including the U.S. tried to divide Israel, it experienced disaster. Does Trump understand this or is this just playing for time to prevent another January Surprise at the U.N. Time will tell. History – and the Almighty – will judge. 6 days to go.
I hope Trump learns from history instead of repeating it.
ERGO: the US is actively destroying the Jewish State while encouraging antisemitism at home.
Trump’s public tough guy persona is a fraud. While he publicly warns hamas that “there will be hell to pay” if they don’t release the hostages, behind the scenes he actually pressures Bibi through his lackey. He was never going to use the military against hamas. There is nothing he could do to hamas that hasn’t already been done by the IDF. He knows hamas is unmovable and the only way to make a deal is by putting pressure on Israel. So, if the hostages are released by inauguration, he will take credit and claim his talking tough to hamas was the reason while in reality it will be because he pressured Bibi. But MAGA will buy into the staged narrative. Trump is a performer, nothing but a fake who created a fake image and who’s nothing more than just another self-serving politician putting his own glory above the long-term security and safety of Israelis. It’s all about Trump wanting his own Reagan moment and doesn’t care how that’s achieved.
It is hard to believe that Trump will backstab Bibi and give a victory to Hamas!
Below is the latest poisoned bait:
The SA stuff is DECEIT aimed toward the establishment of the 24th Arab state and destruction of Israel.
This is just another poisoned bait but even more deceitful than The Deal of the Century.
The answer MUST BE “NO”!
The Saudis also want weapons from the US and for the US to help them to establish the “peaceful” nuclear reactor.
PLEASE LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE!
@Laura – It seems to me that RIGHT NOW Trump and Biden are working TOGETHER!
@John Galt IV Saudi Arabia has no water, they have to buy it, you cannot add 5 million people to that country.
It also looks as though pressure from the Trump team on Bibi to make a deal for the hostages all so that Trump can take credit and make himself look heroic upon taking office. He wants a Reagan moment. Trump is just another self-serving politician. I’m not sure Israel is going to be better off under Trump than Biden.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/hostage-talks-advanced-after-tense-meet-between-netanyahu-and-trump-envoy-officials-tell-toi/ar-BB1rnSz8?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=4ce3322ceb7e4cc686980302e2229730&ei=11
Leftist BS!
MBS supports genocidal Jihadism!!!
The deep state would love a fake state.
Vital to knock off Iran and Qatar! Two genocidal states!
It is hard to believe that Trump will backstab Bibi and give a victory to Hamas!
I warned you Trump can’t be trusted but was hoping I was being unnecessarily worrisome and took comfort in his Mideast policy during his first term and the people he’s appointed to his cabinet for his second term regarding foreign affairs. And there’s also this:
A Hezbollah Imam will be speaking at Trump’s inauguration
https://x.com/Sultanknish/status/1878855954210718043
But I guess my skepticism makes me a TDS nevertrumper/RINO/deep state/neocon/warmonger
I believe Peloni is right. Saudia will NOT accept the illegal YESHA Arabs in it’s territory, and their support for a “palestinian state” is just lip service.
and prefer to keep them beyond arm’s length.
Besides they are a different sect to the P’s. Just a red herring.
Human dna sez biggest fist wins.
talk and smile
stab in back
from dawn of creation
we were NOT made in image of the lord
see if you can change that
Eddie…..aka…..tzvi
Maybe a “Palestinian State-nut NOT side by side with Israel i/n”peace”m and “friendship:…….NO WAY, maybe in the wastes of other Arab states.
Or the Hell that Trump promises.
The latter is of course preferable.
John Galt-
According to REAL facts there are about 3 mill Arabs in borth Y&S and Gaza And all or most want to emigrate’ They should be helped through the one0way door with a departing kick in the read end.
@John Galt IV
If only the rulers of these countries were decent human beings who placed saving the lives of innocent people above their geostrategic goals. If only.
Totally agree
Saudi Arabia is rich – take all 5,000,000 Muslim Arabs in Yesha (Judea, Samaria and Gaza) and move them to Saudi Arabia. If the Crown Prince cares about his Muslim “brothers and sisters” as Arab Muslim leaders have told us for 70 years then get it done. Qatar, Syria and Turkey can takes some too. No more talk. Just action.
Give them jobs and let them flourish.
Another “expert”
Whenever anyone trots out the dated and discredited idea of it being Israel’s responsibility to create a Palestinian state, you can bet that person is an agent of the deep state. Whether it’s the deep state in the US or Israel makes no difference, the goals are the same: a Palestinian state would be seen as a reward for genocide. In fact the exact opposite is what is needed: Hamas needs to be utterly defeated and parts of Gaza should go to Israel. Only that way will deter Palestinian violence.
I doubt that this idea is coming from Trump, but it is in the interest of the deep state to make it seem like it is; it’s a way of dividing Israel from Trump or getting Israelis angry or anxious even before Trump is sworn in.
This is mischief. See it for what it is.
Peloni has it right. Apart from the statements regarding the Saudi push, if they were really so concerned about the wellbeing of the so-called Palestinians, they would have welcomed them into the kingdom instead of refusing them entry.