Report: EU building hundreds of illegal structures for Palestinians in Area C of West Bank

Right-wing organization says EU trying to establish “facts on the ground;” EU says it is providing “humanitarian assistance.”

By HERB KEINON, TOVAH LAZAROFF, JPOST

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The blue EU logo seen on new modular structures in an illegal Beduin encampment in the Judean hills outside the Ma’alen Adumim settlement. . (photo credit:TOVAH LAZAROFF)

The EU is building hundreds of illegal structures in the West Bank, which the government has not removed in order to avoid a diplomatic tangle with the Europeans, according to a report released Friday by the NGO, Regavim. The structures are being built near Ma’aleh Adumim and its E1 area.

This report is just one of a number the group – a right-wing organization which describes itself as a “research-backed, legal advocacy organization focused on land ownership issues” – has released in recent months.

According to Regavim, European Union support for the Palestinians has in recent years moved from “passive diplomatic and financial assistance to a situation of active cooperation in illegal building which the Palestinian Authority has been advancing unilaterally since 2000, as part of its strategic plan to create a Palestinian state de facto, while avoiding the need for negotiations with Israel.”

This week, prior to the release of its latest report, Regavim took journalists to look at a number of Beduin encampments straddling E1 as well as the Jerusalem-Jericho road. They are not temporary tent encampments as they were in years past, but rather clusters that – in addition to tents and tin shacks – also include modular structures with cement floors bearing the EU logo.

According to Ari Briggs, Regavim’s international relations director, the EU logo is placed on the structures in the belief that this will prevent Israel from demolishing them. Israel is not likely to take down a building with an EU logo, due to concerns over both public relations damage and the harm it could cause to relations with the EU, he said.

Maj.-Gen Yoav Mordechai, the coordinator of government activities in the territories (COGAT), was in Europe this week holding talks with high-level EU officials. One diplomatic source said this issue was one of the topics of his conversations.

A COGAT representative, referring to the Regavim charge that it is reluctant to take down the structures because of EU involvement, said: “The civil administration acts against illegal construction, and no organization is exempt from enforcement.

COGAT has sent official letters to embassies and international organizations cautioning them against building illegally in Judea and Samaria.”

Regavim claims EU support for these structures is part of a Palestinian plan to gradually take control of large parts of Area C, the 60 percent of the West Bank that, according to the Oslo Accords, is under full Israeli control.

The EU has for years increasingly focused on shoring up Palestinian development in this area, believing it vital to the viability of a future Palestinian state.

The EU-funded structures, according to Meir Deutsch, the director of Regavim’s policy and government relations department, are being placed illegally on state land, and in some cases in restricted nature reserves.

When Regavim appealed to the High Court in 2008 to compel the state to demolish illegal buildings in the area, it ruled that this could not be done until an alternative living arrangement was found for the Beduin living there. Israel then began planning a city – called Ramat Nueima – north of Jericho for some 12,000 people, a plan now adamantly opposed by the Palestinians and the EU.

In November, a meeting of EU foreign ministers issued a statement that, in addition to their usual condemnations of land expropriation and settlement construction, also slammed plans to “displace Beduin in the West Bank and the continued demolitions, including of EU and member states funded projects.”

The underlying idea behind the joint Palestinian/EU efforts in Area C, Briggs asserted, is to establish a permanent Palestinian presence on the state lands there. “This is great hypocrisy,” Briggs said. “Any time a building goes up for Jews, they raise an outcry, call it illegal and say it endangers peace. They are building illegal houses for Arabs.”

From 2012-2014, according to Deutsch, the EU – at the cost of millions of euros – has put up more than 400 structures.

In response, the EU said it is providing humanitarian assistance to communities in need in Area C in accordance with the humanitarian imperative; it is committed to supporting the development of Area C for the benefit of Palestinian communities; and it consults with the local communities themselves and the Israeli authorities where necessary.

According to a statement issued by the Office of the EU Representative in east Jerusalem, the EU is “deeply dismayed by and strongly opposes Israeli plans to expand settlements in the West Bank, including in east Jerusalem, and in particular plans to develop the E1 area.”

“The E1 plan, if implemented, would seriously undermine the prospects of a negotiated resolution of the conflict by jeopardizing the possibility of a contiguous and viable Palestinian state and of Jerusalem as the future capital of two states,” the statement read. “It could also entail forced transfer of civilian population.

In the light of its core objective of achieving the two-state solution, the EU will closely monitor the situation and its broader implications, and act accordingly. The European Union reiterates that settlements are illegal under international law and constitute an obstacle to peace.”

James Carver, a British member of the European Parliament from the right-wing Euroskeptic Independent Party, is sending a letter Friday to his colleagues based on the Regavim paper slamming the EU’s policy.

In the letter, Carver wrote that the EU actions do not comply with the founding treaties of the EU. He said the structures are disrespectful of the rule of law, because the construction of the structures without the necessary permits is a “manifest violation of law.”

Clearly, he wrote, “EU member states would not allow such behavior within their own borders, nor would the EU endorse or find it anywhere within the European Union. So why would the EU do so outside its borders?” Secondly, he wrote, the buildings contravene the Oslo Accords, which give Israel full administrative responsibility and authority over Area C. “Any building constructed without such permit is illegal, and by endorsing such acts by the Palestinians, the EU is participating in a violation of the Oslo II Agreement,” he wrote.

Finally, Carver added, some of the structures are being built on nature reserves, where construction is forbidden.

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  1. You find this inconceivable, because you regard such things only from the perspective of what’s in it for YOU. That’s why you cultivate your posse of pussies; you support & validate them — and in return, they owe you support when you’re in over your head. And why do you need that shoring up? — because at core, you’re no less of a pussy than they are.

    This statement is insulting, gross and misrepresented. I do not belong to anyones posse.

  2. Bernard ross Said:

    “You attempted to present your fabricated irrelevant fiction as fact”
    Dweller said:
    “It IS fact. You are walking evidence; She as well.

    2nd law for political troubleshooting:‘Seventy percent of what passes for politics in this world is in fact PATHOLOGY seeking a political outlet; i.e., it is pathology masquerading as politics. (In some circles, that figure is closer to ninety percent.)”
    Bernard ross said:
    “and what is your evidence upon which you base this statement and the figures you cite?”
    Dweller said:
    Keen & clear-sighted observation in many different circumstances over an extended period of time.

    In other words dwellers “law” arose from his own mind with no objective 3rd paarty corroboration, but he did not state it as an opinion, which it is, but instead fraudulently attmpted to fob off his valueless opinion as FACT.
    frauds, fakers and liars have no shame.

    dweller Said:

    it’s continued to be true since I first came across it (along with the 1st law) 44 years ago. Have cited it on this blogsite at least seven or eight times over the past eight years.

    in other words you have been fraudulently marketing your worthless uncorroborated drivel here for years. where did you get the seventy and ninety percent figures from, did you make those up also. What the hey, the bigger the lie the more likely it will be bought.
    “since you first came across it”? did an apple fall on your head like Newton.
    😛 😛 😛

  3. dweller Said:

    Nothing happened to it; it’s continued to be true since I first came across it (along with the 1st law) 44 years ago. Have cited it on this blogsite at least seven or eight times over the past eight years.

    Liar!!! Then produce them with links otherwise it proves you Are in fact a stinking low life liar. That’s what 7-8 times??? Show em AH (liar).

  4. @ bernard ross:

    “doen’t seem to notice that like most of the other followers of [JC] he appears to behave oppositely to [Y’shua’s] teaching…”

    Oh really?

    And what might that teaching consist of?

  5. @ bernard ross:

    “Yes, I had seen that lengthy Wikipedia essay many times over the past few years. I’d had several occasions to consult it on my own. But DOVE did not post it until more than two-&-a-half days AFTER her breezy, unsupported, unreferenced, out-of-left-field post, virtually at the very beginning of the thread [Feb 8]

    — and on a different thread altogether. Quigley’s perplexity was entirely understandable.”

    “irrelevant”

    “It is anything BUT ‘irrelevant.’ No objective observer would have had any inkling where she was going to or coming from with that breezy, off-the-wall drivel she spouted.”

    “rubbish, I completely understood it…”

    And you are of course. . . objective.

    “its too bad you are so intellectually limited.”

    Yes, “too bad,” isn’t it. . . .

    @ bernard ross:

    “You attempted to present your fabricated irrelevant fiction as fact”

    “It IS fact. You are walking evidence; She as well.

    2nd law for political troubleshooting:‘Seventy percent of what passes for politics in this world is in fact PATHOLOGY seeking a political outlet; i.e., it is pathology masquerading as politics. (In some circles, that figure is closer to ninety percent.)”

    “and what is your evidence upon which you base this statement and the figures you cite?”

    Keen & clear-sighted observation in many different circumstances over an extended period of time.

    “what happened to the seventy to ninety percent”

    Nothing happened to it; it’s continued to be true since I first came across it (along with the 1st law) 44 years ago. Have cited it on this blogsite at least seven or eight times over the past eight years.

  6. @ yamit82:

    “What I omitted saying (except by way of noting where it came from) was that what you posted was plagiarized in its entirety. No attribution. No quotation marks. Not even a link. NOTHING to keep a reader from assuming that it was you who wrote it.”

    “Coming from a habitual… liar”

    And WHAT ‘lie’ would an inveterate liar like YOU be capable of identifying as a ‘lie’?

    “Coming from a habitual plagiarizer…”

    RIGHT. I habitually plagiarize my own writing (shamelessly!).

    — and nobody else’s; ever.

    While you, on the other hand, know that you can’t write. So you plagiarize routinely. But that’s not enough for you — you’ve got to spread the dishonesty around, so you not-so-subtly suggest to Dove that it’s okay for her to do it too.

    “I think your pique…”

    No ‘pique.’ It was hardly the ‘first’ thing I said about the post containing her plagiarism. Didn’t even mention it, in fact, till quite a long way into the exchange.

    “…over Dov’s [dishonesty] is part of your long observed mental illness (OCD).”

    Psychobabble from a babbling psycho.

    “You are the last one to call anyone out on lifting stuff from others without attribution you are king of the hill in that dept.”

    Oh? — examples, please. Show me the unedited post[s]. (Can’t wait to see what you come up with.)

    “…besides you I don’t think anyone here gives a shit.”

    That’s just your way of signaling to them that “Huff’n’puff has decreed that they’re not ‘supposed’ to give a shit that he does it flagrantly.”

  7. @ yamit82:

    “You are a fantastic defender of the Jewish woman. You will be blessed!”

    “You’ve paid your dues. Now he owes you. “

    “No one owes you dweller”

    Absolutely right. And I owe nobody. I stand on my own two feet.

    Which is why I’m FREE to tell anybody here how the cow ate the cabbage — free in a way that YOU can never be.

    “That’s what I owe you unmitigated disdain and hate.”

    Nope; you were right the first time: No one owes me. Your “unmitigated disdain and hate” are strictly gratuitous.

    “The worst terrorist is more of a sympathetic character than you.”

    By which you tell us more about yourself than about me OR terrorists.

    “Felix thinks you are nuts too. Ask him!”

    You still don’t get it, do you. . . . This is because you project your OWN attitude onto me; but I don’t share it. It doesn’t matter to me whether somebody likes or dislikes me; whether they appreciate or don’t appreciate me.

    It was RIGHT for me to speak up for Felix irrespective of all that; it was right for me to correct him too — again, irrespective of whether he did or didn’t think me balmy. It was the right thing to do, period. Nothing else was or is relevant in that regard.

    You find this inconceivable, because you regard such things only from the perspective of what’s in it for YOU. That’s why you cultivate your posse of pussies; you support & validate them — and in return, they owe you support when you’re in over your head. And why do you need that shoring up? — because at core, you’re no less of a pussy than they are.

  8. dweller Said:

    Your actions & attitude are what attack your character. I merely note it for the record.

    You are so considerate and helpful. (puke) 😛

    I’ll bet you were the class brown-noser and snitch when in school. To know you is to despise you or worse. 😉

  9. bernard ross Said:

    unless perhaps dweller also received the great cosmic sting administered by his soton which made him do the opposite of the “brilliant sayings”? 🙂

    His cosmic sting is known as a lobotomy.

  10. dweller Said:

    Nice try, Slime Trails, but it’s “poor dweller” who is being stalked.

    Paranoia showing itself from you again? Poor crazy dweller. 😛

  11. dweller Said:

    “That’s what I said [see above]. What I omitted saying (except by way of noting where it came from) was that what you posted was plagiarized in its entirety. No attribution. No quotation marks. Not even a link. NOTHING to keep a reader from assuming that it was you who wrote it.

    Coming from a habitual plagiarizer and liar I think your pique over Dov’s SIN is part of your long observed mental illness (OCD). You are the last one to call anyone out on lifting stuff from others without attribution you are king of the hill in that dept.

    To the point besides you I don’t think anyone here gives a shit and that it bothers you to the point where you break out in hives and your anal retention goes into overdrive like on mega steroids. Is telling!!!

  12. dweller Said:

    Only an obnoxious crank and a thoroughgoing dickhead would presume to make such a comparison. And you’ve shown that you fill the bill most handsomely.

    As long as you continue with your psychobble role at playing Jeus in the flesh and attempting to psychoanalyze everyone who interacts with you then there is a case to be made comparing you and your screed you preach advance and attempt to defend.

  13. dweller Said:

    You’ve paid your dues. Now he owes you.

    No one owes you dweller they either think you are insane as I do or hate you as I do . I both think you are nuts and hate you. That’s what I owe you unmitigated disdain and hate.

    The worst terrorist is more of a sympathetic character than you.

    Felix thinks you are nuts too. Ask him!!

  14. @ bernard ross:

    “No stretching necessary on my part. I think it’s you who are doing the stretching. What you SHOULD be doing is apologizing to Felix Quigley for writing an unsupported & unreferenced comment here that belonged on Twitter.”

    “do you mean like the apology you should be issuing for your unsupported fairy tale that a hebrew god begot a jewish messiah son with a woman?”

    Only an obnoxious crank and a thoroughgoing dickhead would presume to make such a comparison. And you’ve shown that you fill the bill most handsomely.

  15. @ bernard ross:

    “Yes, I had seen that lengthy Wikipedia essay many times over the past few years. I’d had several occasions to consult it on my own. But DOVE did not post it until more than two-&-a-half days AFTER her breezy, unsupported, unreferenced, out-of-left-field post, virtually at the very beginning of the thread [Feb 8]

    — and on a different thread altogether. Quigley’s perplexity was entirely understandable.”

    “Actually the post you are referring to I did not even post on this thread at all.”

    “That’s what I said [see above]. What I omitted saying (except by way of noting where it came from) was that what you posted was plagiarized in its entirety. No attribution. No quotation marks. Not even a link. NOTHING to keep a reader from assuming that it was you who wrote it.

    And the fact that you DIDN’T post it on this thread is all the more reason for any objective observer to be perplexed about what you DID post here, as THAT bore no obvious connection to the article or to the only other previous comment. It was as if you expected any reader of your remark to read your mind as well.

    Yet the truth is that any time you post here, you post not merely for a few fellow bloggers, but also for the entire readership, which can be several hundred persons in a given day — to say nothing of those who may read it in the archives ten years from now.”

    “poor dweller, still perplexed and confused as to how Dove could have posted one word and I was not at all perplexed.”

    Nor were you an objective observer.

    “poor dweller keeps stalking dove”

    Nice try, Slime Trails, but it’s “poor dweller” who is being stalked.

  16. @ dweller:
    did you know that you can link your reply to chit chat so that we dont have to subject the forum to irrelevant posts and psychobabble? You merely post below in the box and then cut an pate it to chit chat and then take the finished link of the chit chat post and post that link back here as your reply. That way everyone does not have to keep getting the repeated blockquotes

  17. dweller Said:

    you’ve never known ANYBODY — …. who was remotely like me. the fact that you think you have is telling testimony to just how FAR out-of-touch you are.

    dweller considers himself to be a very special type of person who follows the “brilliant sayings” of his nitri but doen’t seem to notice that like most of the other followers of his nitri he appears to behave oppositely to his nitri’s teaching…. I dont think his nitri suggested he should tell lies, obfuscate, psychobabble, insult, market, etc etc etc……… unless perhaps dweller also received the great cosmic sting administered by his soton which made him do the opposite of the “brilliant sayings”? 🙂

  18. dweller Said:

    Your actions & attitude are what attack your character. I merely note it for the record.

    similar to my regularly pointing out your serial, chronic lying, obfuscation, psychobabble, deceit, paranoia, projection, OCD, ad hominem, red herrings, tangents, marketing, etc etc etc ?

  19. dweller Said:

    What you SHOULD be doing is apologizing to Felix Quigley for writing an unsupported

    do you mean like the apology you should be issuing for your unsupported fairy tale that a hebrew god begot a jewish messiah son with a woman?
    you are a pathetic clown trying without luck to divert attention from your ridiculous psychobabbling post to dove. give it up bozo, all your long stalking posts cannot cover up your stinking pile of doo doo. BTW when are you going to move your irrelevant, psychobabbling,insulting and lying posts to chit chat where they belong? You still posted nothing relevant to the original article in your posts.

  20. dweller Said:

    all the more reason for any objective observer to be perplexed about what you DID post here, as THAT bore no obvious connection to the article

    poor dweller, still perplexed and confused as to how Dove could have posted one word and I was not at all perplexed.poor dweller keeps stalking dove, trying to give it all he’s got, falling over himself with excuses as to why others are crazy when he doesn’t get it.
    It appears that dwellers obssession with Dove is having deleterious affects on his day job, dove has the clowns knickers all in a twist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAcf9fFeKVA

  21. @ dove:

    “You are a fantastic defender of the Jewish woman. You will be blessed!

    “Dweller is barking up the wrong tree if he is trying to get some sympathy or understanding from you.”

    You’ve paid your dues. Now he owes you.

    You think I seek sympathy from this turkey???

    My God, you are nutty.

  22. @ dove:

    “Yes, I had seen that lengthy Wikipedia essay many times over the past few years. I’d had several occasions to consult it on my own.

    But DOVE did not post it until more than two-&-a-half days AFTER her breezy, unsupported, unreferenced, out-of-left-field post, virtually at the very beginning of the thread [Feb 8]

    — and on a different thread altogether. Quigley’s perplexity was entirely understandable.”

    “Actually the post you are referring to I did not even post on this thread at all.”

    That’s what I said [see above].

    What I omitted saying (except by way of noting where it came from) was that what you posted was plagiarized in its entirety. No attribution. No quotation marks. Not even a link. NOTHING to keep a reader from assuming that it was you who wrote it.

    And the fact that you DIDN’T post it on this thread is all the more reason for any objective observer to be perplexed about what you DID post here, as THAT bore no obvious connection to the article or to the only other previous comment. It was as if you expected any reader of your remark to read your mind as well.

    Yet the truth is that any time you post here, you post not merely for a few fellow bloggers, but also for the entire readership, which can be several hundred persons in a given day — to say nothing of those who may read it in the archives ten years from now.

    “You did not jump on the band wagon until after Quigley did – demonstrating your ‘gang up’ mentality.”

    There was no ‘bandwagon’ — that’s Ross’s self-serving designation which you’ve latched onto. Quigley had every right to be incensed (albeit less vehemently so) — so I acknowledged his concern while correcting his overreaction. The correction was balanced, sober & cordial — more so, in fact (in every respect), than anything like the clique’s bandwagon shitstorm that has followed it.

    And the fact that you now call my reply to Felix ‘jumping on the bandwagon’ (esp shortly after Ross used the term) is the sheerest PROJECTION on your part, because that is precisely what the clique to which you have joined yourself does ROUTINELY with opponents. It’s called piling on, and it’s the gambit of cowards.

    Indeed the only place piling-on can be done honorably — if at all — is the football field.

    “You really have to stretch to try to find a way to criticize”

    No stretching necessary on my part. I think it’s you who are doing the stretching. What you SHOULD be doing is apologizing to Felix Quigley for writing an unsupported & unreferenced comment here that belonged on Twitter.

    “It’s obvious that you just have to get in the last word – regardless of how irrelevant it is.”

    How irrelevant WHAT is? It’s YoursTruly who’s been under attack ever since I took Quigley in hand.

    As for ‘getting in the last word,’ if there’s anybody here (including yourself) who doesn’t want to get in the last word, I’d like to hear who that might be.

    You’re just making excuses for yourself.

    “We’ve got Obama interferring in Israel and Canada elections but Dweller rather waste his time calling me meshugge.”

    For personal reasons, there is nobody here who is MORE conscious of hours & minutes than I am. However, it takes little time to assign somebody a name or two, especially when the assigning is not gratuitous, but rather, part of a measured response to a personal assault on me.

    “Sorry to disappoint but ‘My Healer’ has a done a fine job.”

    A “fine job” of doing what? — ‘Healing’ you? (With all due respect, that has yet to begin.)

    “I had 3 brothers somewhat like you”

    Sorry to disappoint, but you’ve never known ANYBODY — in or out of your family — who was remotely like me. the fact that you think you have is telling testimony to just how FAR out-of-touch you are.

    “however they never [resorted] to attacking my character.”

    Your actions & attitude are what attack your character. I merely note it for the record.

  23. @ bernard ross:

    You are a fantastic defender of the Jewish woman. You will be blessed! Dweller is barking up the wrong tree if he is trying to get some sympathy or understanding from you.

    The EU is building hundreds of illegal structures in the West Bank, which the government has not removed in order to avoid a diplomatic tangle with the Europeans,

    Allowing the E.U. to have a foothold in Israel will cause a worse diplomatic entanglement in the future.

    Israel – WHY do you keep giving away the family farm?

  24. dweller Said:

    And that noting SHOULD’VE been the end of it.

    it might have been the end if you did not take the opportunity to insult her with psychobabble and then present further psycho babble as fact complete with percentages. when you are such an obvious liar and psychobabbler you need the exposure.
    dweller Said:

    Humiliation wasn’t called for

    yes it was.. such behavior needs to be curtailed, same as your insulting, psychobabbling and serial chronic lying. Although I realize it is a product of your ocd it is still abusive to others.
    dweller Said:

    — You were covering for Missy Clueless as a member of the clique; nothing more, nothing less. All the rest is eyewash, and nothing but.

    😛 😛 😛
    Dove must have really got your knickers in a twist for you to be so desperately engaged in insulting, psychobabbling name calling towards her. She must have pushed your buttons. 😛
    You also exhibited your usual paranoiac clique fantasies in the same sentence. I think that you following all your nitri’s “brilliant sayings” has resulted in your obvious neurotic(at the minimum) behavior here.
    its interesting to note that the only “relevance” you displayed was in adding to quigleys insults… you had not one shred of relevance to the issue of the EU article. Even felix made an attempt at relevance. poor you, now you are obsessed with stalking dove but she says more in one word than you with all your tomes.
    😛 😛 😛
    (its time for you to move your comments to chit chat}

  25. dweller Said:

    It is anything BUT ‘irrelevant.’

    No objective observer would have had any inkling where she was going to or coming from with that breezy, off-the-wall drivel she spouted.

    rubbish, I completely understood it… its too bad you are so intellectually limited.
    Bernard Ross Said:

    “…as did quigley but quigley accompanied his with insults and therefore he had to be taken to the woodshed”
    Dweller said:
    I had already taken him in hand, and quite well; you just didn’t like they perspective I took in doing so because it grated on your delicate ego.

    still telling lies are you? what you describe as taking him in hand was in fact you heaping on more insult and psychobabble along with narcissism and punctuated with a complete lying fabrication of your seventy- ninety percent “FACT”..LOL.
    not to worry though, I took you both in hand and exposed every sentence of your lying, psychobabbling narcissistic post to public ridicule as you well deserved. Its amazing that you can fit so much irrelevant BS into a single post; I suppose that’s what makes you so entertaining as the site clown 😛
    When are you going to move this irrelevant thread to chit chat?

  26. @ dweller:

    But DOVE did not post it until more than two-&-a-half days

    Actually the post you are referring to I did not even post on this thread at all.

    In summary

    1. You did not jump on the band wagon until after Quigley did – demonstrating your ‘gang up’ mentality.

    2. You really have to stretch to try to find a way to criticize and since I rarely waste my time commenting to you then all you can do is resort to personal insults?

    3. It’s obvious that you just have to get in the last word – regardless of how irrelevant it is.

    We’ve got Iran close to getting the bomb – but Dweller rather waste his time calling me a dingbat.

    We’ve got America being overraught with anti-semitism but Dweller rather waste his time calling me a ding-a-ling.

    We’ve got Russia signing a deal with Egypt but Dweller rather waste his time calling me a nutburger.

    We’ve got Obama interferring in Israel and Canada elections but Dweller rather waste his time calling me meshugge.

    Sorry to disappoint but ‘My Healer’ has a done a fine job. I had 3 brothers somewhat like you – however they never resulted to attacking my character. They are all on ‘permanent’ ignore and if they ever bother me I just report them to the authorities and let them do their job.

  27. @ bernard ross:“The

    “Euros behavior towards Israel and therefore their illegal interference in YS illegal building cannot be fully understood without understanding the history of the church and its insane obsession with the Jews and their insane need to replace the Jews and cause failure of the Jews in Israel. If the Jews succeed in Israel their 2000 year business model is kaput.”

    “That is NOT what Dove said, however; that’s just your interpolation. Nor did she provide a smidgeon of backup at the time.”

    “Perhaps this post of hers will help you to understand what she conveyed as relevant to euro christians stalking Jews in YS”

    “Yes, I had seen that lengthy Wikipedia essay many times over the past few years. I’d had several occasions to consult it on my own.

    But DOVE did not post it until more than two-&-a-half days AFTER her breezy, unsupported, unreferenced, out-of-left-field post, virtually at the very beginning of the thread [Feb 8]

    — and on a different thread altogether. Quigley’s perplexity was entirely understandable.”

    “irrelevant”

    It is anything BUT ‘irrelevant.’

    No objective observer would have had any inkling where she was going to or coming from with that breezy, off-the-wall drivel she spouted.

    ” she stated her opinion…”

    Absent a point of reference, it wasn’t EVEN an ‘opinion.’

    “…as did quigley but quigley accompanied his with insults and therefore he had to be taken to the woodshed”

    I had already taken him in hand, and quite well; you just didn’t like they perspective I took in doing so because it grated on your delicate ego.

    ” for a humiliating spanking.”

    Humiliation wasn’t called for, and if it had been a member of the Huff’n’puff’s clique who reacted the way Felix did, you sure-as-hell wouldn’t have gone that route (if you’d called them on it at all).

    And as for “administering”:

    — You couldn’t administer a “humiliating spanking” to anything but your skippy, assuming there’s anything of THAT left to ‘spank.’

    “Quigley had every right to be incensed by its apparent off-the-wall character; she clearly owes him an apology for having failed to exercise the courtesy of putting herself in a reader’s shoes before she hit ‘Post’; yet you’re STILL making excuses for her

    — and for one reason, and one only: because HER craziness meshes with YOURS, and by your supporting it, she OWES you the same.”

    “quigley does not have to read it”

    It was too short for him to avoid reading it; it was right there, at the beginning of the thread; once he’d read it, he’d read it.

    “he can ignore it, or comment without insult…. “

    Yes, he could’ve forgone the insult, but he overreacted — as I’d noted.

    And that noting SHOULD’VE been the end of it.

    But not for you. Your hatred is exceeded only by your spite.

    “…but as he lit the stove in the kitchen he was required”

    NOTHING was ‘required’; whom do you think you’re kidding?

    — You just exploited the opportunity; it’s that simple. Your contempt for the readers’ intelligence is nothing short of astounding.

    “to receive the required and just heat.”

    Spare me your sanctimony. There’s never been ANYTHING ‘just’ about you.

    — You were covering for Missy Clueless as a member of the clique; nothing more, nothing less. All the rest is eyewash, and nothing but.

    You’re transparent.

  28. dweller Said:

    She’s meshugge,

    😛 😛 😛
    a number of us here have repeatedly pointed out to you your “meshugge” characteristics; let me reiterate a couple:
    obssessive, compulsive, paranoid, projection, narcissism…..dweller Said:

    “And she is mad as the March Hare. Hard to miss it. If you really don’t see it — it’s because you truly don’t want to.

    poor you,more and more you must resort to these ad hominems as you sink into depravity, unable to support your ludicrous posts.
    dweller Said:

    she’s part of the clique

    dweller Said:

    You’re just covering for yourself, and the clique.

    just because you are paranoid it does not mean that everyone is NOT out to get you; when encountering those moments of paranoia I suggest, like queeg, you can play with your little balls and consider the following likely result in those around you:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlV3oQ3pLA0

  29. Weekly Commentary: Annexation – Technical note and American surprise

    Dr. Aaron Lerner Date: 12 February 2015

    International law does not relate to “annexation” per se but instead to unilateral actions by one sovereign state relating to “occupied” territory.

    It has consistently been Israel’s position that thanks to the post 1948 “sovereignty void” in the West Bank (not even the Arab League recognized Jordan’s sovereignty over the West Bank) the West Bank does not have the status of being “occupied” in 1967 by Israel.

    This is a position that has been stated officially by every Government of Israel – Labor, Likud, Kadima, National Unity, etc. in literally every formal submission to the Supreme Court of Israel in cases relating to the application of international laws regarding “occupied territories”. And that “sovereignty vacuum” remains to this very day.

    “ President Obama reiterated the United States’ position that the Palestinian Authority does not yet constitute a state”
    Readout of the President’s Call with Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel –

    January 12, 2015 (White House Press Office)

    That’s “not yet”. And this “not yet” highlights that the window of opportunity to annex (ok, “extend the application of Israeli law”) within the context of the ”sovereignty gap” may slam shut at some point in the future. Possibly the near future. The proposal to annex Area C (where the Israeli communities constitute the overwhelming majority) , therefore, doesn’t have the same status as what might be termed the “end times” proposal of Liberman or for that matter those of Labor, Meretz and any other party that concerns itself with the contours of a sovereign Palestinian state established via an agreement signed on the White House Lawn. The proposal to annex Area C is very much a proposal for the here and now. It is not a perfect solution But it is most definitely, when combined with appropriate measures regarding Area A and B, something viable for many years to come. Kicking the can? Well, if annexation of Area C is no more that kicking the can down the road, it is kicking the can kilometers down the road instead of continuing the policy of, at best, dribbling it.

    Dr. Aaron Lerner, Director IMRA (Independent Media Review & Analysis)

  30. dweller Said:

    “You attempted to present your fabricated irrelevant fiction as fact”
    Dweller said:
    It IS fact. You are walking evidence; She as well.

    what happened to the seventy to ninety percent fable you invented like your yeshu?
    Dweller Said:

    ‘Seventy percent of what passes for politics in this world is in fact PATHOLOGY seeking a political outlet; i.e., it is pathology masquerading as politics. (In some circles, that figure is closer to ninety percent.)”
    Bernard Ross said:
    and what is your evidence upon which you base this statement and the figures you cite?. what is your evidence for this “Dwellers second law…..” which you ascribe to yourself?

    😛 😛 😛 😛
    tell us another yeshu story instead
    it appears that he must be the inspiration for all your deceptions, or as you like to say “marketing”; you must have got them from his “brilliant sayings” like all those others over 2000 years.

  31. Bernard Ross Said:

    “the difference was Quigley’s insulting rant”
    Dweller said:
    That’s bilge. You’re just covering for yourself, and the clique.

    I have no need to cover up exposing your ludicrous psychobabbling, narcissistic insulting posts nor Quigleys opinionated insulting rants. I told you long ago that if you embark on such adventures I will give you your due. you sought to jump on quigleys bandwagon but you ended up in a pile of your usual shite, shown to be once more a liar, fool, narcissist and psychobbabler all in one post.
    You attempted to post fairy tales and submit them as facts and I unmasked you once more as a liar. It appears that almost every day I unmask you as a liar here while at the same time you issue denials.
    You are a pathetic fool but suitable for entertainment purposes. 😛