Robert F. Kennedy Jr. slams Democrats for bid ‘to censor a censorship hearing’

GEN M. FLYNN TWEETED: @RobertKennedyJr offers an historic perspective on where our country currently stands. One of the all-time greatest speeches on our constitutional rights, especially our vitally important First Amendment right to free speech. .

I pray every leader hears and adheres to his counsel. Our nation requires leaders of such magnitude they would only be recognized by the greatest American leaders of all time.

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  1. @Sebastien

    Just sneeze on somebody if you get it.

    So you think the Neo Nazi’s were sneezing on the Jews of London and this is caused the Jews to die in droves?

    Nothing “silly” about them.

    I didn’t say the Neo Nazi’s were silly, just the story that seems to have convinced you that they sneezed their way towards killing the Jews of London, which, with all due respect, I do see as a silly conclusion to make. Covid was not a terribly lethal disease for people even if they caught it, with fatalities increasing in the elderly and those with co-morbidities. Unless the Jews were overly representative among the elderly or the co-morbids the claim about the Neo Nazi’s would appear to be a rather fantastical one to believe as causing these deaths, and for my own perspective, I do believe it was likely completely fantastical.

    As far as ethnically targeted bio-weapons being silly, you might do a bit of research on it. You might be surprised to learn that this topic has been around for decades as have the warnings against them. Here are a few reports in the MSM detailing these concerns, but the research is quite real and ongoing around the world:

    Dr. Malone, who worked as a DOD contractor, as well as Sasha Latypova, who was a pharmaceutical manufacturer, have both reported on this subject as well over the past two years, just FYI.

  2. I’m serious. It was happening here, too. It was all over the news. And very easy to do. Just sneeze on somebody if you get it. Did you miss it? Makes a lot more sense than ethnically targeted bio-weapons which is the kind of paranoid nonsense I’d expect from a racist antisemite. Neo-Nazis have murdered many Jews in recent years. Nothing “silly” about them. The Left doesn’t take black and muslim antisemites seriously and the right doesn’t take neo-nazis and other right wing antisemites seriously. It behooves Jews as Jews not to blindly side with either. And this is not science. This is racialist pseudo-science.

  3. @Sebastien
    Are you suggesting that the Jews of London died in greater numbers because this silly story about NeoNazi’s wanting to infect them? I am not sure if this is meant as humor or if you are serious.

  4. @Sebastien
    The Jews of London, I believe it was, was particularly hard hit by Covid, so many dying that it generated calls for exactly the type of study which was done by the Cleveland Clinic which RFK cited. The question was why are so many London Jews dying. Similar questions arose in America about African Americans and native American Indians, who were also being disproportionately affected by Covid.

    Yet, the Africans living in Africa and the Jews living in America and elsewhere, were not similarly affected as these notable hotspots affecting the different populations. So the question was what was the difference between the Jews of London and the Jews in San Fransisco, for instance. One answer is that the research cited by RFK was based on genetic differences found in the different populations (see what I wrote below with the Cleveland Clinic research which I posted to you and Adam), and the Jews of London may or may not have been born with the specific gene cited in the study. Unlike the African Americans, the Jews of London were dying in opposition to the results of the genetic research, which indicated that the London Jews, or those of Ashkenazi descent, would be less susceptible not more susceptible.

    The simple answer is likely to be found in the research being irrelevant to the number of people who died anywhere. The genetic research, as I explained yesterday, did not indicate that anyone was immune, just that they were less susceptible to the disease, meaning they would require a greater incubation period (period between exposure and onset of illness) or they would require a greater level of exposure before they became ill. This could mean that their immune system could afford them the means of forming enough of a response before they became ill to make their disease state less severe or less obvious. In 2020, however, everyone was testing everyone constantly with a test which found nearly everyone positive. Recall that the consequence of being found positive with Covid was quite significant, because the disease was not so lethal as some of the measures which were employed to treat it. In England the use of Morphine and Sedatives were used in such excess that they resulted in a form of euthanasia. In New York, the misuse of ventilators resulted in people not exhibiting symptoms succumbing to the lung damage of over-ventilation. Some institutions withheld food and water from patients, and everyone who stayed in the hospital long enough received the toxic Remdisivir. For those diagnosed with Covid, whether they were sick or not, the treatment was often more final than the disease.

    Do recall that Covid was not a really deadly disease, certainly not one which required the hospice care treatment which was applied to far too many who were diagnosed using a test which found everyone positive. Of course, financial supplements to diagnose and ‘treat’ the public for Covid was universal, so the differential as to why so many London Jews died still remains a mystery.

    Getting back to the study cited by RFK, however, it did say what he claimed it said, but I would suggest that the madness which surrounded and supported the malfeasance of those being treated would have overcome any genetic benefit to be found for or against one group or another.

    One point to consider, if Covid was as lethal to Jews as was found in London, why was it only so in London. Also if Covid was likewise as lethal to blacks in America why was it not so similarly so in Africa. The research doesn’t answer any of this, but the research only related the ability of the virus to infect a susceptible cell, and could not predict the health status of the people infected, nor the form of care from which the infected people might later succumb after being rightly or wrongly ‘diagnosed’ with Covid.

  5. @Peloni

    ” As noted by the Jerusalem Post, an Oxford University study found that one in five British citizens believed that the Covid-19 pandemic was engineered by the Jews for financial gain. JPost also pointed out that, factually, RFK Jr.’s claims were untrue, according to a study by the Office for National Statistics that found Jews had a higher mortality rate from COVID-19 in the United Kingdom compared to other ethnic groups.”

    “ This is crazy,” the Zionist Organization of America’s Morton Klein told the NY Post of RFK Jr.’s comments. “It makes no sense that they would do that. I read everything. I was totally against the vaccine… I wanted to convince myself it was correct not to take it. I have never seen anything like this.”

  6. Interesting RFK jr. was on Marie Bartaroma’s show on Fox this AM. He was invited back. His favorability polling with GOP is higher than with DEMs

    It was a softball interview and promotional for him.

  7. RFK Jr. AntiSemitism exposed in article by Cindy Grosz. Here is part of it. Balance can be read in link.

    Let Robert F. Kennedy speak and get caught on tape. Let us find out what he realy is by hearing him How many times since he announced his candidacy did he have to walk back comments made that offended Jews?

    Last May, he defended proud Israel and Jew hater Roger Waters as a “global hero” and then had to explain that he had no idea of Waters antisemitic history.

    Last week, sitting at a party with the New York Post’s Jon Levine, he stated that COVID may have been “ethnically targeted” to spare Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people.

    He has stated multiple times that he supports a two-state solution despite the fact that Palestinian Arabs have repeatedly stated that it is the first step towards eliminating Israel

    He had to walk back a decades long friendship with Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan, whom he has called in the past a ‘Truly Great Partner’ and seems only now to disavow himself from that association..

    He had to address his past collaborations with Nation of Islam official Tony Muhammad in 2021.

    He chose former Ohio congressman Dennis Kucinich as his campaign manager. While in the House of Representatives, Kucinich often voted against Israel and was criticized by Jewish organizations multiple times. He even stated in 2007 that Iran’s anti-Zionist leader is not seeking to exterminate Israel.

    We can not forget where he came from. His father was a supporter of Jewish concerns. However, there is family history.

    His paternal grandfather’s legacy of helping the Nazis and his part in not allowing Jews suffering in Nazi Germany to enter the United States. Captured German documents revealed that Joseph, father of JFK, held anti-Jewish views and told the Nazi ambassador he “understood our Jewish policy completely.”

    His maternal grandparents were also antisemitic according to his aunt, Betty Skakel Medaille, as published in biographies about his mother, Ethel Skakel Kennedy.

  8. @Peloni No, you were right the first time. How do we know the studies aren’t bogus? You can make statistics come out any way you want you if structure them right.

  9. @Adam
    Here is the reference for the paper referenced by RFK:
    New insights into genetic susceptibility of COVID-19: an ACE2 and TMPRSS2 polymorphism analysis
    Here is the pivotal comment in the paper, which is pretty technical in nature, but I believe this paragraph is clear enough:

    We found that the distribution of deleterious variants
    in ACE2 differs among 9 populations in gnomAD (v3).
    Specifically, 39% (24/61) and 54% (33/61) of deleterious
    variants in ACE2 occur in African/African-American
    (AFR) and Non-Finnish European (EUR) populations,
    respectively (Fig. 1b). Prevalence of deleterious variants
    among Latino/Admixed American (AMR), East Asian
    (EAS), Finnish (FIN), and South Asian (SAS) populations
    is 2–10%, while Amish (AMI) and Ashkenazi Jewish
    (ASJ) populations do not appear to carry such variants
    in ACE2 coding regions (Fig. 1b). Specifically, several
    variants, including p.Met383Thr, p.Pro389His, and
    p.Asp427Tyr, have been reported to slightly inhibit the
    interaction between ACE2 and the spike protein of
    SARS-CoV-1 [10], which caused the first global SARS-
    CoV-1 outbreak. Only AFR populations carry
    p.Met383Thr and p.Asp427Tyr variants, with allele fre-
    quencies of 0.003% and 0.01%, respectively (Fig. 1b). The
    p.Pro389His only occurs in the AMR populations, with
    an allele frequency of 0.015%. The p.Arg514Gly is a low
    allele frequency (0.003%) variant in AFR populations and
    is also somatically mutated in colon cancers and melanomas from The Cancer Genome Atlas (TCGA:

    There is another paper which indicates that Omicron has a disproportionately elevated affinity for Ashkenazi Jews, but at the moment I can’t find the paper which demonstrated this. In any event, it should be noted that all of these distinctions are relating to genetic differences between the different groups of peoples, ie the genetic makeup of a group is not represented in each individual member of the group, just FYI.

  10. @Sebastien

    He’s saying, “we can’t prove it but it’s obviously so. Do the math”.

    Actually, I don’t agree with your synopsis of his statement. He is saying this stuff is dangerous so we have to outlaw it. This was the focus of the entire discussion.

    Regarding your question earlier,

    how do you know these “studies” you cite were not distorted.

    I misunderstood the question. I thought you were asking me how do we know the studies are correct, which I responded that I don’t, but this was not the question you asked, sorry for the mixup.

    Regarding the notion that RFK is distorting the study he cited, he is clearly not doing so. He put the research citation on one of his social media accounts, Twitter I think, for anyone to read. I read this study two years ago when it was published so I am familiar with its findings. RFK omits the mention of the Finns, who are the very least susceptible to the SARS Cov2 per the research findings, but otherwise his comment is supported by the study’s findings. I’ll address this further in my next post.

  11. @Peloni The hell he didn’t. He’s saying, “we can’t prove it but it’s obviously so. Do the math”. And this is no medical researcher in a crisis. This is a presidential candidate telling blacks and whites what other “races” to blame for a pandemic that has run its course. And Ashkenazic Jews are one of the two “non-white” “races” in his book, incidentally the two groups most subject to hate crimes in the U.S., the perpetrators being mostly black in New York, NJ, and white elsewhere (besides, of course, muslims everywhere). Watch the clip for yourself.

    “We’ve put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes. The Chinese have done the same thing. In fact, Covid 19, there’s an argument that it is ethnically targeted. Covid 19 attacks certain races disproportionately. The races that are most immune to Covid 19 because of the genetic differentials, of the receptors, the H2 receptor, Covid 19 is targeted to attack caucasions and black people. The people who are most immune are
    Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese. We don’t know if it was deliberately targeted or not, but there are papers out there that show the racial and ethnic differential of the impact. We do know that the Chinese have spent hundreds of millions of dollars on weapons developing ethnic bio-weapons and we are developing ethnic bio-weapons….” RFK Jr.

  12. @Sebastien
    What you state is not untrue, but it would be dishonest to claim RFK said something which he did not say and condemn him for doing so. He did not say the Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews were immune, no matter how others might fail to recognize this fact to our detriment, which is why I bothered to point it out.

  13. @Peloni Such fine distinctions like that and “territories” versus “the territories “ in Res 242 usually get ignored to the detriment of our people.

  14. @Sebastien

    how do you know these “studies” you cite were not distorted.

    I am not vouching for the accuracy of the research as that would require a great deal more than I can provide. The research however does certainly exist, and Kennedy did in fact provide references for it.

    Also, I disagree that there is no difference between less susceptible and immune. The distinction can be a matter of life and death, particularly when useful treatments and nourishment is withheld from those who are ‘diagnosed’ with the disease.

    I will have more to share on these points later, but for clarity, I am in no way vouching for the validity of the research any more than Kennedy is.

  15. @Pelini

    “ He said they were more immune”

    A distinction without a difference. How do you think trigger happy black and white bigots are reacting to being told that the virus is a bio-ethnic virus that disproportionately infects them and leaves Jews and Asians alone.

    Moreover, how do you know these “studies” you cite were not distorted.

    I remember articles saying Chasidic Jews were more prone to getting it after reading articles that neo-Nazis had said they would deliberately infect them.

  16. @Adam

    Ashkenazic Jews and Chinese are immune to it

    RFK didn’t say this. He said they were more immune, which is a poor choice of words meant to indicate that they are less susceptible to developing Covid than other more susceptible groups such as Blacks, for instance.

    He has not referenced or provided links to any such study.

    This is not true. He provided the reference to the press and the NYT investigated and claimed that there was no reference to Ashkenazi Jews in the study RFK cited. Of course, the NYT was lying while making this statement and when called to the mat about it, they acknowledged having only read the abstract rather than the study. I read the research Kennedy referenced, and I read it two years ago when it was still new. Since then there have been a number of studies published supporting the same conclusion, namely that not all ACE2 receptors are equally receptive to SARS Cov2 attaching and infecting a susceptible cell. The most recent research was published last month on this topic. The research indicates that the Finns having the greatest resistance to the virus, followed by the Chinese followed by Ashkenazi Jews. There are others as well, but I don’t recall them. In any event, I am a bit occupied, but I will share a post for the research later today or tomorrow.

    By the way, welcome back.

  17. Kennedy is an outspoken antisemite who claims that the COVID19 was an “ethnic bioweapon” that target black people, while Ashkenazic Jews and Chinese are immune to it. While he claims that “Scientific studies” prove this to be the case, he has not referenced or provided links to any such study. Some people who report on the web say that RFKjr is a longtime personal friend of Louis Farrakhan, the leader of the Nation of Islam, who is a very outspoken antisemite. This blood libel closely resembles ones that Farrakhan regularly manufactures. You have to judge people by the company they keep. No Jew with any self-respect should support RFK junior.

  18. @Peloni Well, upon googling, I found this quora entry that would appear to support your contention in the investigations long after the fact when memories become unreliable. If there were additional gunmen, then find them. It just says the LAPD found him guilty without going into detail. But, he’s guilty as hell and anybody who makes it his personal cause to get this monster released, as RFK has done for years, is an antisemite and this is certainly verified by his other actions and associations. His father must be rolling over in his grave.

    Incidentally, let me remind you that you can’t be tried for the same crime twice. If he were released on an alleged technicality, that would be it and our mortal enemies would crow in victory and kill more Jews to celebrate.

    He’s an eliminationist antisemite, and an example must be made, or rather, in this case, upheld.

  19. @Sebastien

    Not according to the LAPD.

    Sorry, not sure what this is referring to. Are you saying that the LAPD found that Sirhan had close access to the back of RFK Sr’s head?

  20. @Peloni Not according to the LAPD. It was the House Select Committee on Assassinations that claimed there was a conspiracy.

  21. @Sebastien

    there were eye witnesses

    Yes, there were. No one is challenging what they saw. In fact they provide the crucial testimony demonstrating the lack of agreement between the facts which calls Sirhan’s guilt into question. The witnesses state that Sirhan never gain close access to Kennedy, and that he was never behind Kennedy. If this is true, how could one of his bullets have been fired at close range at the back of Kennedy’s head. There is more, but this forms the basis of any claim that Sirhan might be innocent of firing the fatal bullet, irregardless of his statement admitting he did it.

    he admitted it proudly

    Again, nobody is contesting this.

  22. @Peloni As Bear said, there were eye witnesses and he admitted it proudly at the time. He should have been executed but his sentence was commuted. But for Newsom’s intervention, the board would have released him. This case is an example of why the death penalty must be re-instated.

    Moreover, this was not merely a criminal act but an act of war against the United States and Israel, a terrorist attack for which the Pals and their backers took credit. His having U.S. citizenship makes him a traitor as well. In both cases, with him having blood on his hands, the death penalty should apply. At a minimum, his life sentence should mean what it says. His having heart troubles is no reason to release him. There is no good reason to release him from prison other than his death.

    RFK seems to be losing his voice in the video clip. That would be a blessing.

    Imagine all the Jewish lives that would have been saved over the last 100 years if antisemitic demagogues had gotten laryngitis and lost their voices for good.

  23. @Sebastien

    he wants him released? That’s even worse.

    This I don’t disagree with, but he should be in jail for the crime he committed not the murder he didn’t commit, if indeed he didn’t commit it. In fact, if he didn’t kill RFK, he certainly tried to do so. Political violence should be treated with the greatest of penalties no matter if it is successful or not.

    The notion he was hypnotized, which I find ridiculous, however, is not relevant to whether Sirhan was actually the one whose bullet killed Kennedy. Either he had access or he didn’t. If we accept the eye witness reports and the autopsy report, it would appear that he didn’t. Whether Sirhan remains in jail or not, this raises many questions.

  24. @Peloni I do not feel the need all these years later to review the case of the RFK murder based on what a crackpot reports.

    I remember the day well and I believed Rosie Grier (who is a super credible person). Sirhan Sirhan murdered RFK and was convicted of the murder. End of Story for me.

    Peloni you are free to believe what you like and disbelieve what you like. It is perfectly okay with me. Sorry your views or comments on this matter are of no interest to me.

  25. @Peloni Not everyone can be hypnotized and he was coached by the worst of the worst.

    “The collection of prisoners who guided Sirhan couldn’t have made a more unlikely crew: Joel Baptiste, a former leading figure in the Aryan Brotherhood, in for life for murder; Suge Knight, the founder of Death Row Records, serving 28 years for manslaughter; Mexican mafia leader Arturo Guzman; Roque Martinez, a top boss in the notorious crime syndicate Nuestra Familia; Cameron Morris, a former member of the Crips; and Michael Goodwin, convicted of the high-profile killing of Mickey Thompson and his wife in the couple’s driveway.”

  26. @Bear

    “Maybe he and Bernie Sanders will run on a ticket together as two wacko’s who do not like Jews and are completely strange.”

    I was thinking Kanye West, known as “Ye” at the moment.

  27. @Peloni

    “RFK doesn’t claim that Sirhan wasn’t there or that Sirhan didn’t try to kill his father. “

    But, he wants him released? That’s even worse.

  28. @Bear

    What lack of quality in the DEM party to be understated.

    The Dems have no chance of winning an election, outside of their use of election fraud, which the Reps have assisted them in utilizing. So long as they are able to wield such flagrant fraud without consequence, the Dems and their globalist aligned Reps will continue to choose the election outcome, making the relative quality of the candidate quite irrelevant.

  29. @Bear

    RFK doesn’t claim that Sirhan wasn’t there or that Sirhan didn’t try to kill his father. He actually doesn’t dispute any of the evidence which either of you reference. He just states that the autopsy report proves that his father was shot at close range in the back, and that based on the testimony of people who were there, Sirhan was never close enough to leave powder burns nor to his father’s back. Nothing which either of you have shared have conflicted with what RFK states.

    So unless you disbelieve the dozens of people who said Sirhan never got close nor to the rear of RFK Sr, and unless you disbelieve that the results of the ‘perfect autopsy’, it is difficult to dispute his claim.

  30. DEM Party Candidates for POTUS one a senile crooked old man who is currently occupying the White House is in the lead.

    In second place a ways back is an antiSemitic wack job (loves his conspiracy theories) with a famous last name.

    What lack of quality in the DEM party to be understated.

  31. The more normal son of RFK thought differently than his brother (who is running for POTUS) about the Sirhan murder.

    Why Sirhan Sirhan did not deserve parole for killing my dad: Read Christopher Kennedy’s statement on RFK’s assassin’s latest attempt for freedom
    SNEED EXCLUSIVE: Robert F. Kennedy’s killer was denied parole after his son, Christopher — who lives in the Chicago suburbs — spoke forcefully against it before the California Parole Board last week.

  32. @ Sebastian True, Sirhan Sirhan was a Palestinian/Jordanian who murdered RFK because he supported Israel.

    There are many full of it conspiracy theorists on the RFK murder just like all the high profile murders. It is just a field of dreams for these wacko’s or people with their own world view were everything amounts to a conspiracy of some sort. RFK Jr. seems to love conspiracy theories of all sorts.

    As I alluded to earlier, I knew people who witnessed the murder, who I 100% believe. RFK Jr. seems like a very strange person, aside for the clearly anti-Jewish bent. An open and shut murder case but the wack jobs do not care about the truth, it does not stop them from taking a high profile situation and spinning it to their perception of reality.

    Maybe he and Bernie Sanders will run on a ticket together as two wacko’s who do not like Jews and are completely strange.

    I think Trump is in trouble if RFK jr. is running in the general election.

  33. @Peloni You committed two logical fallacies: You quoted RFK, jr whose integrity is in question. (by the way the link goes to something else).

    “The fallacy of begging the question occurs when an argument’s premises assume the truth of the conclusion, instead of supporting it. In other words, you assume without proof the stand/position, or a significant part of the stand, that is in question. Begging the question is also called arguing in a circle.”

    Begging the Question : Department of Philosophy, Texas State University

    Not sure which one it is (somebody help me here, please) but you suggested that it can’t be a hoax because other things that were called hoaxes have been proven not to be. So, in effect, because these weren’t hoaxes, there are no hoaxes and never have been.

  34. “…“Kennedy’s people [demanded] that the police not even come close to the senator while he was in Los Angeles…. Kennedy had taken the side of the ‘peaceniks’ and the flower children…. He wanted no uniforms around at all…”

    ‘After Kennedy’s murder, Secret Service protection for presidential candidates became standard…”

    Thus, he didn’t have to have inside assistance to get in.

  35. “…Apologists for Sirhan quickly sprang up. For example, Mohamed T. Mehdi, secretary-general of the Action Committee on American-Arab Relations, published “Kennedy and Sirhan: Why…”

    “…Mehdi concluded that Sirhan had acted in justifiable self-defense: “[W]hen Robert F. Kennedy supports Israel against the Arabs, he is assuming the role of an Israeli high ranking official…. Sirhan was defending himself against those 50 Phantom jets Kennedy was sending to Israel.”

    “…However, popular understanding of the ties between Kennedy’s murder and his support for Israel didn’t last….Amid the calls for gun-control legislation, Sirhan became a symbol — but of American sociopathy, not of Palestinian grievance…”

    “…Sirhan’s lawyers decided to try to save his life with a “diminished capacity” defense…”

    “Thus, over Sirhan’s objections, evidence concerning Palestinians and Zionists was pushed into the background. (One of his lawyers, Abdeen M. Jabara, later cynically asserted that it was the Zionists who had suppressed the truth.) …

    “Finally, the conspiracy theorists moved in. Los Angeles Mayor Sam Yorty announced that Sirhan was “inflamed” by communist groups. Truman Capote said that Sirhan was hypnotically controlled. (Weirdly, before his murder, Kennedy was at the Malibu home of John Frankenheimer, director of the 1962 film, “The Manchurian Candidate,” in which a man is brainwashed and programmed to kill a presidential candidate.)

    ‘Others pointed to the Mafia, the illuminati, the military-industrial complex or the CIA as the puppet masters. The more the conspiracists insisted that Sirhan was a pawn or fall guy, the more they had to claim that he had no actual, believable motive of his own to shoot Kennedy.”

    “Palestinian terror stretches back to RFK killing at the Ambassador Hotel.”
    “Jewish Journal.” May 29, 2008.

  36. “Understanding RFK’s assassination as Palestinian terror”

    “…Sirhan Sirhan, a 24-year-old Christian Arab born in Jerusalem, who had immigrated with his family to the US when he was 12, said, when arrested, “I can explain it. I did it for my country.” In his notebooks, he had scribbled: “Kennedy must die by June 5th,” the Six-Day War anniversary.
    Further proof of Sirhan Sirhan’s identity as a Palestinian terrorist came in March, 1973, when Black September terrorists took diplomats hostage at the Saudi Embassy in Khartoum, Sudan. The terrorists demanded a prisoner exchange, which included Sirhan. Eventually, Yasir Arafat ordered his henchmen to murder the three Western diplomats, a Belgian and two Americans – a brutal crime that also was frequently overlooked.
    Sirhan’s defense fed the confusion. Sirhan’s ironically named Jewish defense attorney, Emile Zola Berman, argued diminished capacity, calling Sirhan an “immature, emotionally disturbed and mentally ill youth…”

  37. @Bear
    RFK claims all the bullets from Sirhan x2’s gun are accounted for, and that Sirhan was never was close enough to his father for there to be powder burns on the wound. Also, he states that Sirhan x2 was never able to get behind his father to shoot him in the back where his father had been shot four times and once being in the head which had to have been made at point blank range despite the fact that Sirhan was no closer than 5′ from his father.

    Now you say this is a conspiracy theory which makes me laugh a bit. The funny thing is that this is what was claimed about the Russia hoax, about the Covid lab leak, about IVM being used to treat Covid, about the election fraud, about the US biolabs in Ukraine, and many other things. So forgive me if I hold out some doubt when you say that

    There was no doubt about what occurred.

    RFK would seem to be the aggrieved party here, so for him to call for his father’s murderer to be released due to the evidence contained in the autopsy report from ‘the perfect autopsy’, would suggest that he doubts what you find undoubtable.

    You note that Rosy Grier tackled Sirhan, so perhaps he was one of the 70+ witnesses RFK references whose testimony confirms Sirhan was not close to his father, and not behind his father.

    You also suggest he must have his own agenda, well, if what he claims is actually true, his agenda might not be so nefarious as you seem to indicate.

  38. Sirhan Sirhan killed Robert Kennedy, without a shadow of doubt. I lived in LA and then and Rosy Grier who was on the Los Angeles Rams at the time, was at a campaign for RJK event at the Ambassador Hotel, saw the shooting and tackled Sirhan Sihran. There was no doubt about what occurred.

    Anyone who says otherwise is simply in love in love with conspiracy theories or likes to re-float them. Or has their own agenda.

  39. @Sebastien

    but this is after delivering a whole spiel about ethnic bio-weapons so his meaning is clear.

    I disagree with your interpretation here. The bioweapon technology is what he was discussing and the racial application of this technology is both real and concerning, which was the focus of his comments, not that the Jews created the virus. Bear says I am watering his statements down, but I would suggest that the claim made in the quote he shared that Kennedy’s commentary

    echoes well-worn anti-Semitic literature blaming Jews for the emergence and spread of coronavirus

    is not supportable by what he (RFK) did state.

    He wasn’t saying that the Jews were responsible. It would be actually entirely ridiculous to suggest that the Jews developed this and somehow planted this virus in China when the Chinese are not only less susceptible to Covid than the Ashkenazi Jews, but the Wuhan lab which developed Covid also does work on bio-weapons which would include the research which RFK was referencing. This however was also not the point he was making. The point he was making is that this research is very dangerous and can be used to target populations based on genetic distinctions which exist between different populations to garner support for banning such research being continued. This, I believe, is a fair estimate of what he did say. Of course, you may disagree with me, but I do not see his statement as being an antisemitic remark and I believe it is a great stretch from reality to suggest the above quote can be supported in his comment.

    I was unaware of the Farakhan story, so thank you for sharing it.

    I agree with you about Sirhan Sirhan. Kennedy has made the case that his father was murdered by an American agent, not Sirhan x2, and so believes he is in jail for a crime he didn’t commit. Whether he killed Kennedy or simply tried to do so, I would argue we are all better off with him where he is.

    As to the issue of Trump, Trump has made himself vulnerable on the shots and he will be faced with dealing with this issue if he faces Kennedy across the aisle, and likely this will be the most significant advantage Kennedy will have should he face off against Trump. Notably, Trump had no trouble wiping the floor with Desantis while having to deal with this same issue. Kennedy, however, has no path to become the nominee to actually face Trump. Those who chose Biden will either keep him thru the next election or they will replace him, but if they do replace him, they will not replace him with Kennedy due to the simple reason that Kennedy will not support them in their moves towards totalitarianism in the US and any number of other issues. He is a Liberal, but not a Far Lefty. I also don’t think that he will be a successful Ross Perot candidate. Again, just my own opinion, of course.

    The irony which should be noted in this election is that RFK’s uncle only became president due to election fraud, and now he is running in an election in which he will almost certainly lose because of election fraud in a party which is rife with support for election fraud (though not exclusively so) making it nearly impossible for him to address the real obstacle which will prevent him from having a chance at the nomination – election fraud.

  40. @Peloni Here’s the clip of him suggesting that Covid 19 was designed to leave Ashkenazic Jews and Asians alone and target Blacks and Caucasians. Incidentally, he refers to Jews as a race. He tries to soften it a little by disingenously backtracking a little, saying he doesn’t know if it was deliberately designed to spare Jews and Asians but this is after delivering a whole spiel about ethnic bio-weapons so his meaning is clear.

    His uncle and namesake was assassinated for his empathy for Jews. So ironic. Though he uses his uncle as a shield when he’s accused of antisemitism despite his association with and defense of notorious antisemites and Israelophobes like Roger Waters and somebody here said, Farakhan?

    Oh, God, here he’s actually posing in a photo with Farakhan

    “RFK Jr. Disavows Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan, Whom He Once Called a ‘Truly Great Partner’”

    Right, and remember how Obama visited the Kotel when he was running for Senator and disavowed his pastor and friend of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, when he was running for president, and approved Iron Dome in his first term when he had to worry about re-election?

    He claims to support Israel as evidenced by his opposition to the Iran Deal but, at this point, whoop dee doo. I think he also accused Israel of some conspiracy at one point, though I can’t find it.

    He has called for the release of RFK’s assassin, Sirhan Sirhan, on parole for years. The one good thing I can say for Governor Gavin Newsom, is that he stopped his release.

    It is highly inappropriate, in my opinion, to give this Kennedy any support, whatsoever. His words incite violence against Jews and Asians.

    Moreover, I can’t imagine any Democrat voting for him. He could split the Republican vote, however, should he decide to run as an independent.

    “RFK Jr. is surging only in polls among Republicans”

    Washington Post › 2023/06/28 › robe…
    Jun 28, 2023

    You want to undermine Trump who authorized and fast-tracked the vaccines?Legitimize this guy. This will be his issue. Watch him play the role of Ross Perot and split the vote. That plus voter fraud, media and judicial collusion, and the ambivalence of otherwise sympathetic but low and moderate income Jews and others who are worried about losing their healthcare and their apartments if any Republican gets elected. Well, Good luck with that. And forget about the the next president even considering the JO as an option if that happens though based on past performance, I’m not exactly sanguine about Trump doing so, either, though fortunately Kushner is gone so maybe.

  41. Kennedy’s remark echoes well-worn anti-Semitic literature blaming Jews for the emergence and spread of coronavirus which began circulating online shortly after the pandemic broke out, according to The Center for the Study of Contemporary European Jewry at the University of Tel Aviv’s 2021 Antisemitism Worldwide Report.

    A 2020 Oxford University study found nearly 1 in 5 British people believed Jews created the coronavirus pandemic for financial gain.

    “No no no no no,” said Dr. Monica Gandhi Professor of medicine and infectious disease at the University of California, San Francisco, and a longtime critic of pandemic-related school closures. “I don’t see any evidence that there was any design or bioterrorism that anyone tried to design something to knock off certain groups.”

    The son of former Attorney General Robert Kennedy and nephew of former President Kennedy has in the past palled around with Nation of Islam leader and notorious anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan.

  42. @ Peloni, your repeated phrase ” I think this is not a fair statement”. Let me put this simply and water down what I am thinking. Not material to my viewpoint on the subject. Kennedy forgave Roger Waters some recently for vulgar anti Jewish and commentary and they comes up with this with off the wall stuff.

    Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is facing accusations of antisemitism and racism after reportedly repeating unsubstantiated conspiracy theories linking COVID-19 to Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people.

    So I repeat I am not cheering for Robert Kennedy Jr. because he is clearly exhibiting Jew hatred in his commentary.

    Too bad his uncle the POTUS was very friendly to Israel.

  43. @Bear

    I have a really hard time cheering for someone hates Jews.

    I think this is not a fair statement. I don’t believe Kennedy hates Jews. In fact, I do believe his comments about the virus was mischaracterized, and I think a fair reading of his comments, and the research which he based it upon, would not indict him as such. I was of course taken back by his comments about Rogers Waters and Anne Frank, but I don’t think these comments, both of which he apologized for having made, would easily characterize him as hating Jews. Kennedy is an old time Liberal, and as such the Jews are part of the base from which he draws his support. That being said, I probably don’t agree with him on a great deal, politically, and the Kennedy’s have never been popular with me, quite the contrary, actually. This being said, however, his stand on medical safety and freedom as well as his opposition to censorship, are, in my opinion, beyond the realm of politics, or they should be. I think he has done a remarkably great deal of good towards both of these topics, and I consequently have no problem cheering quite heartily for him for having done so. In fact, whether I cheer him or I condemn him, he would support my right to do so, and that by itself, in this day and age, should earn him a great deal of cheering, or so I would argue.

  44. Too bad this Kennedy keeps making anti Jewish remarks and sticks up for Jew haters!

    I have a really hard time cheering for someone hates Jews.