So the Palestinians Deserve Self-determination and We Deserve Dead Babies??

Peloni:  Howard Rotberg expertly captures both the paradox and the threat with which we are faced with any prospect of Palestinian self rule, be it in Gaza or in Judea & Samaria.  Indeed, given the degree of weaponization with which they have been trained as experts in the savagery which we have seen them achieve, how might it be anticipated that they might be prevented from manipulating any opportunity of self-rule towards the further pursuit of their psychopathic dreams of revisiting their fantasy of October 7 again and again.  Indeed, the divide which part their demonstrable psychopathy from rational civilized behavior is such that they can only be trusted to do as they have been trained.  Not in Gaza, and not in Judea & Samaria, should the perpetrators and celebrants of October 7 be granted self-rule, not for one day more.  Rather they should be facilitated towards emigrating somewhere more remote, where their tendency towards such radicalism as they have been weaponized might be overseen and redirected by a logical, relatable and responsible third party.  A scenario such as the Jordan Option could provide an ideal solution towards dealing with this paradox, where the Palestinians would be monitored and overseen, away from their intended Jewish prey by a ruling body led by Mudar Zahran, whose governance and survival would itself provide and require a zero tolerance for such Islamist radicalism as has been the effect of both Hamas and PA self governances, overseeing the whole-of-society effort of radicalizing Islamist training of the Palestinians by UNRWA.

Howard Rotberg

With every act of terror by the terrorist Palestinians, Americans, including Jewish Americans, parrot the idea that this proves that Palestinians deserve a state.  As we have seen in the case of October 7th, the more barbaric and obscene the terrorist attack, the more frantic these morally confused Americans, Canadians and Europeans become to reward these barbarians with a state, money, humanitarian aid and the welcome to immigrate to our cities and countries.

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Once again, we see this sort of thing in the murder of a young couple who worked in the Washington D.C. Israeli embassy and were attending an event at the Jewish museum where they were shot by a terrorist screaming “Free Palestine”.  The beautiful young couple were soon to be married and they deserved a happy life together.

JoJo Kalin, a board member of the American Jewish Committee who helped organize the event, said she did not witness the shooting but felt a “sense of guilt” about what happened. I am not certain what she meant but hopefully she is not one of those Americans and Jewish Americans who think that giving up land to a genocide-supporting death cult is a virtuous course of action should indeed have a sense of guilt for their submission to Islamism.

Said Ms. Kalin:  “I’m not going to lose my humanity over this or be deterred. And that Israelis and Palestinians both still deserve self-determination and [it is] just deeply ironic that that’s what we were discussing,” she said.

The event was billed as a networking opportunity to bring Jewish young professionals and the diplomatic community together. Its description said humanitarian aid organizers responding to humanitarian crises in the Middle East, including Gaza, were invited.

Those who want Israel to give more humanitarian aid to those civilians of whom about 70% support Hamas and the goal of removing the Jewish presence in historical Israel seldom understand that Israel, almost alone among nations at war, is willing and does provide such aid – and the criticism of Israel relates to how much should be the aid and how fast it should be given and how much is controlled by Hamas which steals much of it and sells it back at exorbitant prices to those who were intended to receive it.

But never mind – leftist, liberal, and Reform Jews need to continue their virtual signaling and moral relativism – where the irony is not that peace through more aid to Hamas was discussed but that Jews are now so confused that they think that Jewish values are enhanced by support for Hamas and other violent Muslims.

Of course, American left-liberal Jews who supported Obama and then Kamala Harris did not notice that Obama’s confusion was a turning point in the history of American culture and values. Obama’s “Muslim apology tour” of the Middle East upon his taking office was the beginning of an American self-hatred. Obama’s equivalency between American notions of justice, tolerance and human dignity to that found in Muslim countries was quite simply shocking.

Obama said:  “I have come (to Egypt) to seek a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world; one based upon mutual interest and mutual respect; and one based upon the truth that America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition.? Instead, they overlap, and share common principles – principles of justice and progress; tolerance and the dignity of all human beings(my emphasis).

To any student of the Middle East, where most Islamic countries do not allow the residence or citizenship of Jews, and do not extend to Christians or Jews full rights, this talk of “mutual respect” made no sense at all.? Then, Obama’s equivalency between American notions of justice, tolerance and human dignity to that found in Muslim countries?was quite simply?shocking. So was his invitation to several members of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a terrorist-supporting Islamist organization, to attend his speech.

The proposed solution of Vice-President Harris to the Israel/Arab issue was: a two- state solution with a rebuilding of Gaza where the Palestinians have security, self-determination and the dignity they so rightly deserve.” So rightly deserve?

But are Kamala Harris and some leftist Jews correct that the Palestinians deserve dignity and self-determination?

First, it must be stressed that the Palestinians have already had a mostly sovereign state due to the pullout of Israel from Gaza in 2005. Israel reserved the right to control certain security matters, which was certainly wise, in the light of October 7th. Then on the West Bank, the Oslo Accords gave partial sovereignty to the Palestinians which was hopefully to lead in the future to more sovereignty. Did they conduct themselves so as to show that they deserved dignity and self-determination?

Second, we must ask what does dignity really mean?

The Cambridge Dictionary leads off with two definitions:
  1. the quality of a person that makes him or her deserving of respect, sometimes shown in behavior or appearance.

We have a problem here: This dictionary suggests that dignity comes from the kind of behavior that makes people respect you but Hillary Clinton in a major speech said we should respect our enemies – so that means everyone is deserving of respect and then everyone would deserve dignity. Does that include terrorists who butcher babies, torture and sexually abuse women of every age, take hostages and starve them and establish legal charters that call for the murder of your neighbors?

And now we are told by folks like Ms. Kalin that the Palestinians deserve a state. And what do Jews deserve? Dead babies?

May 23, 2025 | 1 Comment »

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  1. We have 2 choices here: we can ignore these statements/people or we absolutely need to instate a forum that educates all who are willing to be informed. The unwilling should be dealt with by the first option.