Peloni: To be honest, I have high expectations that the terms will quickly be violated, even if they are dubiously accepted to begin with. Many of these points require a considerable amount of trust for parties which have no reason to trust either each other or the US. Of course, Trump’s negotiating style includes the use of significant means to leverage the parties towards accepting difficult terms. In particular, Point #20 will be difficult for both sides, but nearly impossible for Ukraine as its best elements of their armed forces include Azov. I have always worried about the Jewish community in Ukraine following the war, and this concern has not been lightened with the prospect of Ukraine having to chase a hasty peace before their battlefield losses are even more penalizing than they stand at this hour.
Trumps 28 peace plan for Ukriane and Russia in short
1. Ukraine’s sovereignty affirmed.
2. Russia, Ukraine and Europe sign a non-aggression pact.
3. Russia agrees not to invade neighbors and NATO stops expansion.
4. Russia and NATO launch a de-escalation dialogue.
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) November 21, 2025
Trumps 28 peace plan for Ukriane and Russia in short:
1. Ukraine’s sovereignty affirmed.
2. Russia, Ukraine and Europe sign a non-aggression pact.
3. Russia agrees not to invade neighbors and NATO stops expansion.
4. Russia and NATO launch a de-escalation dialogue.
5. US gives Ukraine post-war security guarantees.
6. Ukraine’s military capped at 600000 troops.
7. Ukraine amends constitution to renounce NATO membership.
8. No NATO troops in Ukraine, with exceptions for UK-France peacekeepers plan.
9. UK and EU keep fighter jets stationed in Poland.
10. Ukraine loses US guarantees if it invades Russia, Russia faces full sanctions and deal reversal if it invades Ukraine.
11. Ukraine allowed to join the European Union.
12. A global Ukraine Development Fund finances reconstruction and industry.
13. Sanctions on Russia lifted gradually, Russia reenters the G8.
14. 100 billion dollars in frozen Russian assets fund Ukraine’s rebuild, the rest are unfrozen.
15. A US-Russia compliance hotline is created.
16. Russia passes a law enforcing its non-aggression pledge.
17. US and Russia extend the START nuclear treaty.
18. Ukraine renounces nuclear weapons.
19. IAEA takes control of the Zaporozhye plant and power is split equally.
20. Both sides implement tolerance education and ban Nazi ideology.
21. New territorial lines set: Ukraine withdraws from remaining Donetsk and Lugansk, Russia withdraws from Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Sumy, with a demilitarized Donetsk buffer under Russian recognition.
22. Neither side can change borders by force in the future.
23. Russia allows Ukraine to use the Dnieper River commercially.
24. A full civilian, POW and remains exchange takes place.
25. Ukraine holds presidential elections within 100 days.
26. Full amnesty for all parties.
27. The deal becomes legally binding and monitored by a US-led Peace Council.
28. Immediate ceasefire begins once both sides sign, followed by troop withdrawals.


Sebastien,
Here is Ukraine’s response:
https://youtu.be/Opz6GdF8eKY
Sid Caesar — in his current condition (i.e. dead) — would be a good choice to replace Putin.
BTW Seb,
I don’t think it’s conceivable that Putin would accept the 28-point proposal, even if Ukraine hadn’t drawn any red lines. The Russian economy is in ruins. With oil now around $35, they are essentially without any income; and his new VAT has led to open protest in Vladivostok. China cannot help him, India has all but abandoned him; and the Ayatollah has all he can do, to evacuate his supporters from drought-stricken Tehran. His effective friends have dwindled to North Korea and Belarus. He’s desperate for a way out; but I doubt that even Donald Trump can give him one.
Maybe Bashir Al-Assad can step up to replace him.
@Michael Each side says the other is losing. All of this confirms my prognosis that this has become a “forever war.”
Hi, Sebastien. You just said,
“forever”? It might seem so –especially when we’re not having fun. Consider this, though:
Volodymyr Zelenskyy says Ukraine faces choice of losing dignity or US backing
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-22/volodymyr-zelesnkyy-says-us-peace-plan-difficult-choice-ukraine/106039966
See what the little actor is saying: He’s saying UKRAINE faces a choice, not Zelenskyy; and it’s a VERY HARD choice. He has just very gracefully put himself out of personal danger, by magnifying the irresistability of Donald Trump!
This looks like sheer genius. Zeke can accept the 28-step plan without redaction, or with little redaction, sign the deal, then retire to the US to accept his Acadamy Award. Putin, on the other hand, is positively screwed, no maatter what he does. I think he woulod do well, to avoid open windows that he might “fall” out of.
@Michael Aren’t you having fun?
No, I need a nap. Here’s one more. Another Russian “Where’s Waldo?”
https://youtu.be/YULhY4kNlCs
Sebastien,
It sounds better than this:
Intercepted: What Russian soldiers think about the war | DW Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa7IxRzHG00
“Sovereignty?” Meaning Russia withdraws from Donbas and Crimea? And the Russian-speakers who seceded in a war that cost 14,000 lives before the Russian Federation accepted the membership application of the Donbas and Luhansk Republics will be suppressed again? What’s the deal? If that’s the case, this deal is a non-starter. Promises to keep NATO out, sort of, won’t fool the Russians. Not again. And in exchange for what? Sanctions waivers? Even Trump has allowed some already because they would hurt U.S. “allies.” And Russia has BRICS and a gold standard for their currency plus China.The U.S. fought in Afghanistan for 20 years. The Ukraine is in Russia’s back yard. I predict neither Russia nor Ukraine will give an inch. Also, remember, Russia and China both have vetos on the UN security council. This war will probably go on into the next U.S. administration. And Zelensky will permit elections? When’s the last time a dictator voluntarily relinquished power? ( And what would the neo-Nazis embedded in key positions do to him if he did? You notice Trump’s 28 points acknowledges and takes aim at them) South Korea takes presidents declaring martial law very seriously.
“AI Overview”
“South Korea’s president can potentially face the death penalty, as capital punishment is a legal penalty for crimes like insurrection, which former President Yoon Suk Yeol is accused of. However, since 1997, South Korea has had an unofficial moratorium on executions, meaning no one has been executed since December 1997. This makes it highly unlikely the death sentence would be carried out, although the legal possibility remains.
Legal status: The death penalty is a legal punishment for crimes like insurrection, which former President Yoon is accused of.
Current practice: South Korea has had an unofficial moratorium on executions since 1997.
Likelihood of execution: Although a death sentence is a theoretical possibility, it is highly unlikely to be carried out due to the long-standing moratorium.
Former President Yoon’s situation: Yoon faces charges of insurrection, and if found guilty, the death penalty is a potential, though unlikely, sentence. He has denied the charges.
Other former presidents: Former President Kim Dae-jung was sentenced to death in 1980 but had the sentence commuted to a suspended sentence in 1982. ”
However, the good news for us in the West is that the conflict will drop out of the headlines, again. Aaah, relief. “Peace”, at last. “Out of sight, out of mind.”
This article says just the opposite of the plan. All these conflicting spins.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5614066-trump-28-point-ukraine-peace-plan/
Just thought of a possible pen name for the author of a sarcastically satirical political column: General Confusion (ret.)
I was looking for the bit where Sid Caesar exclaims that someone has him “not knowin whether he is a comin or a goin” but discovered this.
“Sid Caesar in his first known standup.” (“Sid Caesar playing a crazed psychologist in the Guilt of Janet Ames (1957)” Kinda’ fits. I’m starting to wonder whether we are being played.
https://youtu.be/JhmGDsqjbmo?si=_sNOzfGMA1BcOHTJ