The real world

In Syria is heading inexorably for a civil war I commented “Thus the monarchies and Israel are allies in the real world wanting to stop Iran from getting the bomb and taking over Iraq. They also want to stop Turkey from re-acquiring the Ottoman empire including Syria and Iraq. Once again this need is shared by the Monarchies and Israel. “. Ted Belman

PM mentions ‘new found’ ties with Arab countries

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said on Thursday that relations were being expanded with some Arab countries, adding fuel to speculation that the countries in question were cooperating with Israel to combat Iran.

During a press conference with visiting Romanian Prime Minister Emil Boc, Netanyahu said at the end of his brief welcoming remarks, “We welcome the fact that we have the ability to expand these new found friendships – by the way, in the region, as we discussed with some of the countries, the Arab countries, but also outside the region by tightening the bonds [with Romania] that are natural for us.” [..]

November 26, 2011 | 11 Comments »

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  1. Does anybody remember when the Americans refused to sell us AWACS and sold them against our objections (Reagan) to the Saudis?

    Well it forced us to build our own which we have sold to India China (canceled due to American pressure and other countries) It is a WIN WIN FOR ISRAEL AND A LESSON NOT TOTALLY LEARNED TILL NOW BY Israel.

    I have been folllowing this deal and I favor Korea over Italy.

    Israel could gain from Korean bid for IAF contract
    11/27/2011 04:57

    Tender to replace IAF’s fleet of A-4 Skyhawks,used to train cadets in advanced pilot training, could net $5 billion in sales for Israeli companies.

  2. Noted, Yamit.

    Isn’t this a lovely “Big Game”? (sarcasm) The Russians want a Mediterranean port, so they cozied up to Syria. For a while, the Turkish connection seemed to be at odds with this; but now the Turks hate the Syrians (Assad bunch); and since the Greeks and Cypriots hate the Turks, the Russians get on with the latter; but Israel is also friends with the nearly bankrupt Greeks because of the gas and because the Turks hate them; so Israel is sort of on the side of the Russians, who are opposing the Americans; but of course, Bibi swears unending loyalty to Barack Obama who loves Turkey’s Erdogan who hates Bibi.

  3. Comment to the above news release. I agree.

    I can’t wait to hear Turkey continuing with it’s Not ” very wise” rhetoric , looks like a 3 way gang bang Israel,Russia , and Greece against the neo -ottoman islamo fascist bullies.

  4. I predicted that at some point Israel would let the Russians in on our oil and gas potential if for nothing else to keeps our local and NATO wolves at bey. Attaking Israel and America is one thing but the Russians are feared because they are ruthless.

    Our New-found energy potential is beginning to change the behavior and perceptions of the power players. Only Europe or at least the EU still don’t seem to get it but they will. Greece will get out of their economic situation when our gas and oil comes on line as our hub for distribution in western Europe.


    Russian navy and Israeli military will hold joint exercises next week

    Russian navy nears Cyprus drilling zone
    November 25, 2011 |

    THE “Admiral Kuznetsov” class aircraft carrier is currently off the coast of Malta and heading for eastern Mediterranean from their base in the Barents Sea.

    Informed sources have said that the Russian navy and Israeli military will hold joint exercises next week close to Cyprus Exclusive Economic Zone.

    The exercises are slated to begin on the 28th November and last a week.

    Commentators say that Russia is determined to send the message that they have invested interests in the region and will secure them.

    It is understood that the aircraft carrier is carrying 24-fixed wing planes and a number of helicopters. It has also been reported in the press that the Russian navy may request to use port facilities at Limassol.

    The radio report also claimed that three Russian destroyers are currently anchored off the Syrian coast. Russia’s naval supply and maintenance site near Syria’s Mediterranean port of Tartus will be modernized to accommodate heavy warships after 2012, the Russian Navy chief said earlier this week.

    “Tartus will be developed as a naval base. The first stage of development and modernization will be completed in 2012,” Adm. Vladimir Vysotsky said, adding it could then serve as a base for guided-missile cruisers and even aircraft carriers.

    The Soviet-era facility is operated under a 1971 agreement by Russian personnel.

    Russian relations with Cyprus are at their best in many years. Last month, the Russian Ambassador to Cyprus Vyacheslav Shumskiy said that Moscow fully supports the sovereign right of Cyprus to exploit its natural resources.

    “Our position is absolutely clear , and we were among the first countries to comment on that, and we totally support the sovereign right of the Cypriot people for exploitation of natural resources , this is totally in accordance with the international law and with the EU regulations, so there is no doubt about that”, he noted.

    Invited to comment on Turkish threats against Cyprus, he said that Turkey’s position is not “very wise”.

  5. That’s one helluva big deal.

    Is it? The GCC is the dominant oil producer in the world, and that is its ONLY clout in the world today. Traditionally, Israel and the rest of the Middle East have been ruled from the geographic northwest (Rome, Greece, the European powers and Turkey) and the geographic east (Assyria, Babylon and Persia/Iran). The Arabs dominated the area only for about 200 years right after Mohammed stirred them into a frenzy. As allies, the Arabs are more a pain in the butt than a help

    Israel is immediately threatened by the prospect of a fanatical, nuclear-armed Iran. Of course, the Qataris and Omanis are shaking in their boots at the prospect of a powerful Iran: They share the Persian Gulf with them. When Iran pees, they get wet. The best help they can give Israel, is to get out of the way and pretend they don’t see anything while Israel knocks Iran’s socks off. That done, they will flake away like rust off of a car in Wisconsin.

    Once Iran is taken care of, the Turks will reveal themselves as the real power in the area. Within a few months, I expect them to be dominating Syria and Lebanon; and it won’t be long before they effectively control Iraqi Kurdistan and Iraq-Tikrit as well. The US is tired of occupying Southern Iraq, so they will probably rely on the Turks to set things in order there as well; and voila! Turkey will then control perhaps 20% of the world’s oil reserves. Add this to a rapidly expanding industrial base (temporarily on pause because of the double-dip recession), one of the largest and best-equipped armies, navies and air forces in the world, and combine this with a lively imperial ambition and deep hatred of Israel, and things might start coming into focus.

    Turkey can easily build a nuclear program. It already has its hand on the trigger of several dozen tactical nukes, is hotly pursuing a civilian nuclear program and, once Iran has been humbled, it will have access to all of Iran’s nuclear technology. It is ultimately more dangerous than Iran, simply because Turkey’s leaders are much more sane and pragmatic than Iran’s. They will not risk turning the Middle East into a radioactive wasteland if they don’t have to (The Iranians would). They will mount a massive, seemingly irresistable attack on Israel, definitely in the next few years.

    According to Ezekiel 38, they will lose; but I would like to be vacationing in China or Australia when that happens.

  6. You shouldn’t be so cynical BlandOatmeal, forging relations with even Qatar would not be feasible without the acquiescence of the other Gulf states.
    That’s one helluva big deal.

  7. “…adding fuel to speculation…”

    That’s about the extent of it. Qatar has identified closely with the US and the NATO cause in Libya. If Netanyahu is lining himself up with that coalition, then Qatar may be one of the countries he had in mind. Yeah, it sounds like Persian Gulf stuff; and the only bond I can think of is a mutual concern over Iran. We’ll see…

    Jordan also has a common threat with Israel from Syria; maybe he means them too.