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ADAM-
In your post very far down the page you suggest, that because many of their delegates were Jews, that the Russian and Ukrainian peasantry were not Anti-Semitic.
I differ with you in that those same peasants conducted some of the most horrific pogroms against the Jews.
What the many Jewish delegates immediately suggest to me is that the VAST majority of those same peasants were totally illiterate and needed educated people to represent them’
Even at the worst of times, Jews were noted for their love of education.
Felix,
I told you that you are obsessed with Leon Trotsky. If you really thought that being a follower of Trotsky was good, you would not look upon this as an “attack”.
I have not pointed out this fact in order to “attack” you. i do not have any feeings towards or against Trotsky, a man who was dead long before I was born.
Of course Leon Trotsky is not going to resurrect. But his ideas and those of Marx are at this moment very relevant.
Attack those who are besotted with Judea if you want but do not attack me.
That is because those folks were concerned about a system….a bankrupt system and it is still so today…but even more acute.
Churchill that acutely conscious defender of that system did certainly recognise the truth about what Trotsky et al represented…the ending of his (Churchill system)
You don’t see that. Too bad for you then.
Trump has one really historical job to do. Just one.
That is make Ukraine a neutral state.
By Ukraine state I mean the rump that’s left.
Zelensky will 100 per cent be strutting around hell pretty damm soon.
He could have had it all minus Crimea in April 2012. Too late.
Nobody has learnt what Russia fire power really is.
Michael you’re a man of the past. You’re incapable of learning.
Open your eyes learn from Russia science.
Visegrad 24
Talk of a Preemptive Attack on Russia Is Going to Make Russia Even More Likely to Conduct a Preemptive Attack Against Us
by Michael Snyder
November 27, 2024
https://conservativeplaylist.com/talk-of-a-preemptive-attack-on-russia-is-going-to-make-russia-even-more-likely-to-conduct-a-preemptive-attack-against-us/
also cf https://youtu.be/v0EwH6goaLg
I’m more interested in the above, than in what happened 100 years ago — and I don’t think Leon Trotsky to rise from the dead to save us.
@dreuveni
I rescued your comment. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.
@peloni: some of my comments tend to disappear too.
The Jewish people are fighting for existence against world Antisemitism. Somehow they have to hold a parallel idea…that they are also fighting for preservation of all life against the crooked reality of capitalism as it has grown into imperialism, the sharpest expression of the latter is the Ukraine conflict.
I present to you Mark Sleboda in conversation with Jamarl. Listen to near the end where the sanity of this so-called west…the sanity is THE issue… becomes the focus point in their discussion
https://youtu.be/3mD6nRirQig?si=KRLTG6fDXKoYo6c8
Trump announces the nomination of
@DrJBhattacharya
to Director of the National Institutes of Health
MY COMMENTS KEEP DISAPPEARING.
@peloni
Could you, please, retrieve my comment?
@Adam D
No one says that all Ukrainians were antisemites but the years 1918-1921 were a huge mess on the former Russian Empire/future USSR territory, especially in Ukraine.
To name just a few:
1) The Civil War (Whites vs. Reds);
2) The Intervention – the attack by umpteen foreign countries;
3) the Spanish flu;
4) other illnesses like typhus, smallpox, etc.
5) famines
6) roaming bands (almost always attacking Jews – with Ukraine having probably the largest Jewish population);
7) the country and its industry, infrastructure, agriculture lying in ruins after 1921 and tens of thousands of orphans roaming the streets;
8) the country at the time was very rural (~80%) and about the same percent of the population was illiterate;
9) scores of ethnic populations speaking different languages and with different religions, and many of those not only illiterate but not having any writing systems (alphabets).
BTW, Trotsky played a huge role in saving this place from total destruction.
Adam
Perhaps it was like this:
The Parliament was the enemy of the Bolsheviks. Even though the Bolsheviks programme was in the first instance creating their parliament.
If that’s correct it follows that political position was everywhere being dominated by the power of the Russian Revolution. It was never a Coup. It was in the air.
Religion here was dominant especially as peasant life was rather as out of the Middle Age.
Moving from the west: Roman Catholicism, in the middle Ukrainian Orthodox Church, to east Russian Orthodox Church
This is the mix out of which emerged the greatest factor in the Pogrom Slaughter
The Jews came to be blamed for the Russian Revolution
And that aforementioned factor was “Jewish Bolshevism”…a conspiracy theory which was absolutely lethal and still in 2024 going strong!
Lenin and Trotsky as part of their political programme development over previous decades presented cast iron opposition to Antisemitism. With deep theoretical basis as well. Their positions unarguable.
It was this that would win the day and the link up between the Russian Revolution and the fighter Jews in defensive armed organised forces became a reality.
Trotsky became the actual living embodiment of all of this struggle including the struggle against the pogrom.
The czarist white armies were overcome, all the imperial encroachment on territory which anticipated the modern neocons, was defeated, the Pogromists were captured tried and shot.
Antisemitism was put down in that particular space in that time.
These are great deeds of about 6 full years from 1917 to about 1923 but going back to the dress rehearsal for 1917 of 1905.
The Ukrainian parliament was torn apart because it could not lead…not unlike the pathetic Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were torn apart.
But the small working class of Russia and surrounds always very small were ruined by such a consuming effort. Plus defeats internationally
That caused the retreat which gave rise to Stalinism
But it is written in our history that
In this way the Jews found out the only force which would never bend the knee, to save them, and did save them fighting alongside them, was Trotskyism.
And that remains the case today.
Hi, Adam
It seems that the Jewish people, especially those living in Israel, have little to gain or lose from the war in the Ukraine — other that the general distress this is foisting on the rest of the world. Neither side in that conflict has exhibited much interest in Israel. As for me, a major interest is the fact that our retirement fund is being gradually emptied to keep it going.
fquigley and Michael, I attempted to post a modest contribution to your debate about Trotsky, But my attention was distracted for a few moments and so my comments failed to post.
The jist of what I was attempting to post was that even in 1918-19, not all Ukrainians were antisemites, A Ukrainian government was founded in late 1918 in Kiev with considerable working class support. It gave full citizenship to Jews, and also recognized them as a monority with the right to its own autonomous institutions. Specifically, it recognized the right of the Ukrainian Jewish community to form their own militia defend themselves against pogroms and antisemtic attacks, which had already begun as World War I ended. Unfortunately, this progressive Ukrainian government dissolved itself with a year. I don’t know exactly why they disbanded, but I think they were under pressure from other Ukrainian nationalist groups, most of them antisemitic, the Russian “Whites” and even to some extent the “Reds,” who didn’t appreciate rival progressive organizations.
Other evidence that not all Ukrainians were antisemites may be found in some studies of the delegates elected by the ukrainian peantry to the Constituent Assemby in 1918 and the varoious elections in Ukrainian to the soviets of workers, soldiers and peasants deputies between 1917 and 1919. Some scholar, I can’t remember his name, studies the lists of delegates elected in these elctions from Ukrainian districts found that a large percentage of the delegates elected by Ukrainian peasants were Jews. That was equally true of the delegates elected from ‘great Russians” contitutuencies during these same elections. This uggests that most of the Ukrainian peasantry most most of the Russan peasantry were not antisemites.
Michael
There is an almost unimaginable level of Antisemitism and I do not see anything whatsoever that you or israpundit is doing or can do to confront this.
Which is also to confront the reality of a new and different Holocaust.
You cannot hope to deal with it if you have no history
You and since they don’t talk about history are about the same.
In writing your piece which is in front of me you didn’t understand the significance of basically everything
The Ukrainian state in its founding in 1918 immediately murdered 100 thousand Jews, most likely more, and cleared that vast area of Jews.
All I mean all in the Jewish movement have ignored this huge event
Maybe because Trotsky was heavily involved
Which brings us to his murder in August 1940
Rather than answer me properly you disparage me (I am obsessed you claim) who not instead discuss rationally
Show where I am mistaken
If you’re able to. But you are unable to gather that knowledge.
Felix, you seem absolutely obsessed with Leon Trotsky. Have you considered the possibility that reality is bigger than Leon?
It is happening today. The large Communist Parties… meaning Stalinist parties, are no more
But the same things are happening today… growth of Antisemitism in response to October 7 ??????
This is a discussion on YouTube
These same people are big promoters of Antisemitism which is the irony
At 49 minutes Eric London expansion on who really was Agelof
May be of interest
There also a 4 part article on the site wsws.org
A discussion by wsws people involved in examination of the issue
…if you see at about 49 minutes Eric London addresses who exactly was Agelof and remember Trotsky could have had no idea of this.
https://www.youtube.com/live/6Oq5mcmaUzs?si=PJ6BMfd6PMg82cRG
Reader
It is possible to unearth valuable information about spies and provocateurs inside of Zionism. The condition for doing this successfully is that the issue of security is taken seriously by everyone. That means it should be right out in the open as a serious matter.
Spies were placed inside of the Trotskyist movement, the Fourth International, in the 1930s
The evidence has to be collected in a nonjudgmental manner. For a long time the prevalent story was that Sylvia Agelof was used by Mercader to get the assassin within striking space. (IE she was the naive exploited woman) Recent study using empirical facts leads in a very different direction.
I have to look up the link
I am CONVINCED (after following the events in Israel for the last 30-35 years) that there are traitors embedded in the highest reaches of Israel’s government, IDF, law, and security services.
The goal is to dismantle the state, slowly but surely.
The problem is that this goal is not only suicidal, it is homicidal because the ensuing Holocaust will engulf and destroy BOTH Israel and the Diaspora.
The reason I think it is done deliberately is that I cannot imagine that anyone can be SO INCREDIBLY DUMB as to keep doing what they are doing without any evil intent.
The recent news when the agreement was still tentative:
Israel is going to trade land for peace of the grave AGAIN!
10,856 sq mi (28,120 km2) = Chicago Metropolitan Area
8,522 or 8,019 sq mi (20,770 km2) = Israel!!! (without Judea & Samaria)
For the last 40 years Israel has been giving away its land piece by piece and playing the game of “indigenous Palestinian Arab people, disputed lands, lands occupied by Israel, Arab refugees, proportionate response, painful concessions, diplomatic solutions (same as painful concessions, same as land giveaways), being merciful to the enemy civilians while the enemy has no mercy on Israeli civilians, begging for compassion, assuming guilt for everything wrong everywhere, etc.”
The truce with Hizballah is going to be signed TOMORROW!
They will sign it after:
I am sure the 5-country committee will protect Hizballah from Israel while Hizballah shoots an occasional barrage of rockets (which they will have every right to keep) all over Israel.
Michael
I had difficulty registering so I made a change and along with a new password I became able to be registered and thereby comment again.
You write
As I suspected your take is full of errors
These Ukrainians were given their independence by Lenin as part of the politics of the Russian Revolution. This was an international political campaign by the Russian Revolution. For example read Lenin and Trotsky response to the Irish rebellion of 1916
However having been gifted an independent state they sought to make war on the Russian Revolution and also engage in butchering a great number of Jews. This was the Pogroms of 1919 to 1921. Seems like at least 100,000 Jews were massacred by these Ukrainians.
And much more. But that is enough for now.
Hello Felix, or whoever you are. I addressed you as “Quig”, because it sounded more a name than “f”. If you prefer that I use your Gaelic handle, please tell me what it is.
I have no idea what beef you have against Adam and me. Against us both, you said,
I can;t speak (or un-speak, as you seem to prefer) for Adam. i only know that decent fellow, through what he says here. I have not been hired by any “agency”, or any such thing. Adam and I are friends of Israel, quite on our own initiative.
Concerning Ukraine, I don’t know why an Irishman like you should be concerned about what happened there in bygone days. I certainly have no reasxon to delve into these matters; but if you want my personal history in the country, it is this:
Ukraine, since around 1990, has been an independent country. Before that, it was under the control of the Communists — a wicked people, who were responsible for the suffering and murder of tens of millinons. Before that, the western part of the country, including what used to be called “Galicia”, was part ot Poland. This was the situation from the end of WWI until the beginning of WWII. At that time, the Communists from the Soviet Union and the Nazis from Germany invaded both Poland and western Ukraine and divided them between themselves; during WWI and the Bolshevik Revolution, those same two groups had done the same thing.
Before WWI, as later, your long lost ancestors were smoking pipes with the leprechauns in Ireland, so I can’t expect you to have any knowledge of the times. As for the Ukrainian people, be they Ruthenians, Cossacks, Poles or Jews, those in the east suffered under the Russians and those in Galician and the rest of the West gained their independence alongside the Poles — but as I’ve said already, you probably know nothing of those times in Eastern Europe. As I seem to have read somewhere, the Irish were busy with matters of their own.
From the 18th Century until WWI, the people of Western Ukraine were under the Austrian part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Those in the East, as in later days, were oppressed by the Russians and their Cossack allies. In the early 18th Century, this land had belonged to Poland, until the Russians, Austrians and Prussians carved the country up among themselves.
My ancestors lived in that land in those days, in a Galician stetl in what was then called Stanislau. Like many of their countrymen, they were Jews — a people you also seem to be unfamiliar with.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/idf/dm-katz-blocks-2-idf-chiefs-appointments-to-examine-their-october-7-records/2024/11/24/
Intro…Israpundit editors are helping promote the falsification of the cruelty meted out to Jews in Ukraine over centuries in order to hide the REALITY OF UKRAINE TODAY…For example Adam lines up with the EU yesterday to attack Russia and defend the Fascists around Zelensky (Azov, Right Sector) who still control the Zelensky narrative to transform this border dispute into World Nuclear Conflagration. In ways not as yet explored, thus not understood, these attacks on behalf of Zelensky chime in with the attacks of World Antisemitism of the ICC to isolate, set up and overthrow PM Netanyahu. All of the Jewish elites ruling tops are working might and main to separate these huge issues and huge struggles
And Adam’s Jew Betrayal assertions and posts are given free uncontested play from all the Jews on israpundit. Not one person speaks out. This is the actual living real modus operandum now on Israpundit.
[The actual role of Adam and Michael on Israpundit is to work to hide the known and tragic history of the Jews in Ukraine over a very long time to provide succour to the Fascists in Ukraine today, ultimately working on behalf of Biden and Sullivan and of Big Soros Capital]
I am continuing on here from the Korybo article
https://www.israpundit.org/putin-is-finally-climbing-the-escalation-ladder/
Because the content has a deeper significance for Jews and is in fact very different the more I go into the subject
Michael S
Who is Quig??
Shall I use the Gaelic which I can assure you is long enough
Quig,
Thank you for associating me so closely with Adam. It is truly an honor..
Whatever happened it is tragic and really in truth we do not know. I will try to find out what I can but until I do I will keep my mouth shut.
I am reacting to Adam and Michael. I see them as exactly the same as the Palestine thugs
The same way of operating.
And I did look at one of your sources. The Daily Mail.
You and Adam are one big agency which excuses the terrible crimes against Jews in Ukraine.
Why have you never dealt with that?
Hi, Adam.
I came across a news story about this latest episode of “Russian Dropsy”
https://youtu.be/zEDZ2MyDq7c
Note Putin’s castle, and his guards –who strangely resemble the Winkies of Oz
https://youtu.be/0t1lGqwDhbg?t=17
(Dorothy, as we all know, also fell from the sky — as in Putinland!
Adam
You are totally sick in your hatred of Putin and of Russia
We do not know what happened. But we can understand what a blow this is to his family to lose such a gifted human being.
But like the Palestine Locos in their hatred of Jews you see something and lash out.
And like those weirdos you similarly show NOT EVEN COMMON SENSE
For the Jordan option discussion. I though Jordan is part of Israel’s promised land. Is not Jordan part of it? If it is part of it, why the Jordan option is being discussed?
Critics of the Russian government and its president, Vladimir Putin, have been commenting over the past year have commented on how many critics of the president or his policies have died by falling out of upper-story windows. Just yesterday, the leading male ballet dancer, whose name I can’t pronounce, just died yesterday after falling out of a fifth story window. The police have ruled the death an accident. He was only 39 years old.
WWIII is in the news again
https://rumble.com/v5rpavw-mass-layoffs-have-started…-how-to-protect-your-income.html?e9s=rel_v2_ep
The first part of the video is about current and likely future massive unemployment in the US, but then Pavlovski goes on to talk about what I am starting to call the “New Great Northern War” — a war that has greatly escalated.
The latest expansion has been the entry of thousands of North Korean troops into Ukraine and Russia. This has drawn a response from South Korea, which is still in a 75-year war with the Pyongyang regime. The South is calling on a massive response from its allies in North America, Europe and other places.
The noose is tightening around Netanyau and Israel’s neck. Not only has the ICC issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, but both Britain and the Netherlands have said they will arrest Bibi and hand him over to the ICC if he enters their soil. This is the most extreme and vicious measure that the European countries and the international judicial bodies have ever taken against Israel. have ever taken against Israel. The only other example of this kind of behavior by the “international community” and the NATO and EU powers is the abduction and kangaroo court trial of Slobadan Milosivic in the Netherlands by the “Special Criminal” court to try “war crimes in the former Yugoslavia” between 1995 and 1999. Milosevic was even dinied adequate medical treatment for his heart condition, and died in captivity.
But somehow, at least to me, this treatment of Israel as a criminal country and its leaders as criminals to be tried in foreign countries is even more outrageous than the persecution of the Serbian leadership, Some Bosnian Serb units did commit atrocities during the Yugoslav wars, although many of the accusations proved to be false, and the leaders of the Bosnian Muslims and the Croats, who also committed atrocities, were never tried.
Israel, however has the strongest record of any country in recorded history of doing everything possible to protect the lives of civilians, including “enemy” civilians, in time of war. This makes the criminalization of Israel and criminal charges against her leaders one of the worst crimes in human history. Full equal in viciousness, depravity and ignorance to the outrageous trials of Jewish leaders in the middle Ages, and at times as recently as the twentieth century, for allegedly murdering Christian children in order to use their blood to make matzot.
Ted and Peloni, please an article about this extreme, unprecedented outrage in the next Israpundit column or as soon as possible. Israpundit and all patriotic Jewish newspapers should get on this case and expose it to as wide and audience as possible.
Pam Bondi??? Really?
reuvani-
and even after all your earthshsking events, I haven’t felt even a single twinge from an earthquake.
So the ICC has delivered arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant. President Herzog has spoken up;
Finally he has said something I can agree to.
Biden administration plans to forgive half of Ukraine’s $9 billion loan — Bloomberg
A Prisoner’s Suit for Nasrallah: What could have been?
After several days of his elimination, we saw his body being pulled in a bag from that deep hole in his underground hiding place. His body remained intact. Surely the IDF knew exactly where Nasrallah was and they could have retrieved his body before Hezbollah men could find it.
Arabs are still in shock of what happened, so they were in complete panic just after Nassrallah’ elimination, that is, no action could be taken.
If that happened and given that Nasrallahs’ body was intact, the IDF could have shown the body on TV after dressing it in a white nylon prisoner suit. Hezbollah would then have accepted any Israeli conditions to retrieve the body back.
The “deep state” swamp must be drained by the voters.. The filthy swamp draining crew needs a mandate of massive proportions. Followed by the restructuring of the police.
Libs of TikTok
https://media.gettr.com/group5/getter/2024/11/19/20/006ccdf1-4f63-4b0f-6d81-c3c11e6824f4/30646e377a3df77163b5409fdd0dffde_768x0.jpg
I like the Fall.
The Pope is siccing the catholics on Israel and Jews:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/399347
The popes showed no concern for the Armenian Genocide, Holocaust, the Iraqi violent ethnic cleansing of the Assyrians (for the last 30 years), or any other past or recent genocide but when there is a chance to smear the the Jews – he can’t miss it!!!
Unconfirmed reports that Khamenei has fallen into a coma and died erupting on X. OSINTdefender reports that “the Accounts that are spreading these claims are not in any way to be considered as Reliable Sources.”
Edgar you are correct prepare for the worst and hope for the best. The citizens of Israel had better take a serious look at Leviticus 25:2 when you come into the land I give you. — Lev.26:4. If not I’m afraid this war is not done yet.
A few days or weeks ago made a comment that John Fetterman was not long for politics or the democrat party. His end is getting closer.
https://www.israelunwired.com/democrats-banned-john-fetterman-after-he-did-this-at-jewish-universitys-graduation/?utm_source=is
READER_
Yes it’s always right to hope for the best but prepare for the worst. All major leaders have done this throughout the ages.
But your pessimism is totally unfounded.
You “look” for problems where none exist, and then worry yourself about them.
Self deceiving.
Israel does have a sharp, cutting edge standing army of about 250,000 or more., I don’t see how you can say otherwise, and the bulk of the male population up to about age 40 as Miluim with regular training updates throughout the year.
If the situation worsened beyond this then every able bodied man-and many women- would rally to Israel’s defence.
NEVER AGAIN is a true slogan believe me.
Are we conquering the whole of S.Lebanon or not.
What’s the latest?
@Edgar G.
Maybe they rejected it because there was something about Israel’s sovereignty in it, and they want Israel completely wiped out “with no preconditions”.
They may accept a better offer or they hope to try and force Israel to accept the UN decision to create another Arab sovereign state in the same areas as The Deal of the Century, and then they will attack again, this time as an Arab sovereign state which cannot be wiped out or cancelled.
This is why they are waiting for Israel to be defeated (Israel accepting ceasefires, making painful concessions, its population leaving the country, getting divided and demoralized, its economy suffering because Israel lacks a standing army, all it has is a militia of less than half a million people, etc.)
And, I hate to say this, Israel’s so-called best friends have the same goal, i.e., to defeat Israel and to kill Jews.
And, I hate to say this, Jews, as a people, don’t have the goal to save their state and their lives and to defeat their enemies once and for all in order to prevent the next Holocaust.
Jews prefer (in the majority) to stick their heads in the sand up to their butts and to practice DENIAL.
About my “pessimism” – I think it is prudent to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.