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April 16, 2020 | 8,874 Comments »

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  1. PELONI and I are absolutely right and any who disagree are totally wrong and can’t see the wood for the trees.

    Did we sacrifice nearly 900 of our best IDF to rescue 300 hostages many already dead.

    Only a fool would say “YES”. Worse than a fool……..

    From the very first moment the Israeli STATED position was

    1) to utterly destroy HAMAS to a degree that it could never rise again, and
    2) the Hostages although very im
    portant were secondary and could be regarded as already casualties.

    2

  2. I am not very happy with the way this is posed by Peloni and Edgar

    Peloni to bring them back it is necessary to defeat the terrorists and those who support them, if necessary in battle and to expel from the state, and to administer the land

    Absolutely this was not the program of Israel at any time and it was a time to spell out the program

    To talk about the hostages being less important etc. is very wrong in every way

  3. A chariot imported from Egypt cost 600 shekels of silver, and a horse 150.

    Chronicles 1:14:17

    Man, talk about inflation. I sure hope Trump and Bibi can do something about that. 😀

  4. I queried:

    Alexa, how much would 600 shekels of silver in King Solomon’s Israel be worth in U.S. dollars today,

    and she replied:

    In King Solomon’s Israel, 600 shekels of silver would be valued at approximately 2.2 U.S. dollars, taking into account the historical context and conversion rates.

  5. @Edgar
    Indeed, and you were correct to do so. The policy of capitulation in response to Jew Ransoms is not a sustainable policy. It was not the policy pursued during Operation Jonathan, and it can not be the policy pursued today.

    Failing to act in the interest of the Jewish people with the unconscionable Shalit deal is what gave Sinwar the freedom to lead Hamas on its road to Be’eri and it is what has lead to the capture of over 200 Israelis on October 7.

    Instead of chanting ‘Bring them Back’, the chant of ‘Go Get Them Now’ should be ringing by one and all.

  12. On January 12, 2017, President Barack Obama announced the immediate cessation of the wet feet, dry feet policy. Since then, Cuban nationals who enter the United States illegally, regardless of whether they are intercepted on land or at sea, have been subject to removal.
    https://en.wikipedia.org
    Wet feet, dry feet policy – Wikipedia

  16. ACTION ITEM –> Send a letter to NYC’s Anthology Film Archives. They have shown at least 24 Palestinian films this year, most if not all with anti-Israel bias! They have not shown A SINGLE Israeli/Jewish film related to Oct 7 and its aftermath. Their public funding needs to be cut: https://tinyurl.com/AnthologyFilmBias

    – post on FB group, Nee Yorkers Fighting Against Antisemitism

  18. Jewish Conservative commentator dead at 86

    Says he was a Marxist in his youth. Omits that he was a red diaper baby. I read his autobiography and followed the bibliographical trail he left like Hansel and Gretel’s breadcrumbs. helped lead me out of
    The forest, let me tell you. Big loss. The other David Horowitz is the publisher of the leftist rag, Times of Israel. Now no chance of confusion. How does the joke go again, in which the punchline is God says, “Oops. Missed.”

  20. All of GAZA Judea and Samaria is part of Israel which is a Jewish Country and our Jewish Homeland. We Jews are the native indigenous people of the region. The area was legally part of the 1922 League of Nations Mandate which gave Israel and today’s Judea and Samaria as the Jewish Homeland legally by international law. The League of Nations mandates which also created Jordan, Syria, Lebanon with the same mandate cannot be rescinded under International Law. Jordan is Palestine not Israel including Judea and Samaria. Our homeland cannot be given away for any peace treaty or anyones legacy. No expansion of the Abraham Accords. No Public stunt or millionaire business deals is worth our religious, historical or territorial rights.

    – posted by B.C. – in FB group: A Heb of Trouble: Supporters of a strong israel

  21. You can vote if you are Jewish for the World Jewish Congress, if you do not live in Israel. Check out article and link to vote before May 5.

    The ‘secret’ elections shaping Israel’s future
    Most of the Jewish public is unfamiliar with the World Zionist Congress. On May 4, a significant opportunity will open for American Jews to influence the future of Zionist institutions and Israeli policy.

    Most of the Jewish public is unfamiliar with the World Zionist Congress, despite it being essentially “the parliament of the Jewish people.” Since Theodor Herzl convened the first World Zionist Congress about 127 years ago, it has met every five years, bringing together delegates from around the world. In just a few days, on May 4, a significant opportunity will open for American Jews to influence the future of Zionist institutions — and Israeli policy.

    “We’re not asking American Jews to help us physically in the Land of Israel,” explains MK Ohad Tal, who is leading the new party affiliated with the Religious Zionist movement. “We’re telling them: Come and influence the policies of the State of Israel from the Diaspora. You can’t vote for the Knesset, but through the Zionist Congress, you have a real opportunity as Jews to impact Israel’s direction.”

    The World Zionist Congress is composed of about 500 delegates: one-third appointed by Israel’s Knesset, one-third elected through voting in the United States, and one-third from the rest of the world. Every five years, Jews worldwide vote for their representatives, determining the leadership of four key national institutions: the World Zionist Organization, Keren Hayesod (United Israel Appeal), the Jewish National Fund (JNF-KKL), and the Jewish Agency for Israel.

    Only the Voters Make a Difference. Continue for full article by clicking below and to vote!

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/407531

    PS – If you vote in the USA, I suggest you vote for the ZOA slate.

  22. Not a coincidence, but a deliberate stunt to downplay the horrors of the holocaust while simultaneously comparing and appropriating the holocaust and Jewish suffering onto the “palestinians”. A very sick and evil display. I am so fucking sick of this gaslighting.

    Ben Schapiro: Yale set up checkpoints for Jews on Holocaust Remembrance Day!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t78YzqkRxjY

  27. Avi Abelow FB Post:

    THE CANCELING OF ITAMAR BEN-GVIR AT A SYNAGOGUE IN NYC

    I have no problem acknowledging that some Jews, especially outside of Israel, feel uneasy about figures like Itamar Ben-Gvir. People can argue about his past actions, his political style, or certain statements, and not want to vote for him in Israeli elections. Reasonable people can have real discussions about these things.

    But what’s so disappointing — and dangerous — is how many simply refuse to recognize the reality behind his popularity among so many Israelis today.

    They ignore the fact that Ben-Gvir is not a racist, not a terror supporter, and not the threat they want to believe he is. His appeal isn’t rooted in hate. It’s rooted in a deep, painful awareness that Jewish survival in our homeland requires strength — and an unflinching acknowledgment of where the threats against us are really coming from: an Islamonaz*I enemy that exists within a 1,400 year culture that still today chants in celebration “Khaybar, Khaybar ya yahud”, celebrating the time when Muslims massacred the Jews in Khaybar back in the 7th century, and a society that today seeks Israel’s destruction.

    That reality isn’t comfortable. It doesn’t fit Western “progressive”, really regressive, narratives. But it’s the truth that Israelis live with every single day — and ignoring it only costs more Jewish lives.

    Reading some of the reactions to Ben Gvir’s appearances in America, one thing becomes heartbreakingly clear: too many Jews, even now, still don’t understand the reality we are facing.

    Worse — the Western progressive values they have internalized are actively crippling their ability to even recognize the most basic Jewish instinct: the right and necessity of self-defense.

    One recent example summed it up perfectly. A commentator warned that a “Judaism addicted to power” is as bad as terrorist movements around the world. Addicted to power? Since when did the Jewish people — after two thousand years of exile, persecution, pogroms, gas chambers, and now jihadist slaughter — need to apologize for finally reclaiming power to defend ourselves?

    Power is not evil. Power is survival. Without Jewish power, we are dead. Without Jewish strength, there would be no Israel, no free Jewish communities, and no future for our children anywhere.

    The real moral perversion isn’t Israelis voting for leaders like Itamar Ben-Gvir who promise to defend them — the real perversion is Jews, whether in Israel or in the diaspora, preaching weakness, restraint, and moral equivalence at a time when Jewish blood is flowing freely on the streets of the Land of Israel.

    Let’s be crystal clear: the Jews who elected Ben-Gvir — by the hundreds of thousands — are far more connected to the authentic values of the Jewish people today than the Jews writing these hand-wringing posts whether in Israel or from behind their keyboards in New York or Los Angeles.

    Israeli Jews who live in Ashkelon, Sderot, Jerusalem, and Judea and Samaria know exactly what’s at stake. They know that survival depends not on hollow slogans of “unity” and “restraint” but on armed, unapologetic Jewish strength — the kind of strength Torah values have always demanded when facing evil.

    The Torah commands us, “If someone comes to kill you, rise up and kill him first.” It does not say: Hold back lest you be accused of ‘supremacy.’ It does not say: Worry about how CNN or your progressive neighbors will feel about your response.

    It says: Defend the lives of the Jewish people. Without hesitation. Without apology.

    Those accusing Ben Gvir and Jews in Israel of “supremacy” simply because they want to live safely in their ancestral homeland have absorbed the anti-Western, anti-Israel, anti-Jewish narratives of our times. They have replaced Torah values with progressive dogma. They have neutered the Jewish survival instinct under a delusion of moral “purity” that demands we lay down and die in order to be loved by others.

    There’s no virtue in weakness. There’s no holiness in surrender. There’s no peace that comes from appeasing those who seek your destruction.

    It is no accident that it’s precisely a majority of the Jews most grounded in our land, our history, and our faith — especially the Jews living in the towns and cities closest to danger — who overwhelmingly reject the suicidal ideals of the progressive world. They know better. They feel it in their bones.

    They understand that Jewish sovereignty demands Jewish strength. That Jewish freedom demands Jewish courage. That Jewish life demands Jewish power.

    When some Jews lecture Israelis for “celebrating Jewish power,” they reveal how distant they’ve become from the living, breathing, fighting spirit of the Jewish people.

    October 7th should have shattered every illusion. It should have been the final death blow to the “progressive” fantasy that Jewish “niceness” would protect us. Instead, some Jews are doubling down on the same suicidal softness that has made Jews throughout history easy prey for our enemies.

    We cannot afford to listen to them anymore.

    We must embrace basic Jewish pride — a fierce, unapologetic, courageous pride rooted in our land, our Torah, and our God-given right to survive and thrive.

    Not “addicted to power” — committed to survival.

    Not “supremacy” — sovereignty.

    Not “terror tactics” — self-defense.

    That is the only Judaism that will ensure a Jewish future — in Israel and beyond.

    Like him or hate him, today Ben Gvir represents a healthy understanding of our reality and self-preservation that many Jews deeply influenced by Western education and values are afraid to accept.

  33. It’s happening in Gaza…and it’s just the beginning!!!

    For months, we’ve been saying that the only moral, strategic, and actual victory to ending the war against our Islamonaz*I enemy in Gaza is the mass emigration of the enemy population that supports and empowers Hamas. As the reality is that the whole Gaza population is Hamas, and not just the armed terrorists.

    And having them live minutes away from us, is a reality that Israel can never have in order to ensure that Israelis are safe.

    The Oct. 7th massacre, that non-combatants took part in, and celebrated in the streets of Gaza while beating and spitting on our hostages, dead or alive, is the only proof needed that they can no longer live anywhere near us.

    And now—it’s beginning. Quietly, under the radar of the hostile media and the international “human rights” hypocrisy machine, tens of thousands of Gazans are leaving.

    According to reports out of Israel last night in Israeli news, 36,000 Islaminaz*i Gazans have already left in just the past month!

    And the most unbelievable aspect of this update is that the majority crossed through the Rafah border into Egypt, which Egypt has now unilaterally opened—for exits only. Another 2,000 have left via Ramon Airport and through the Allenby Bridge crossing into Jordan.

    And where are they going? To Egypt. To Jordan. To the UAE. And to other places.

    It’s happening.

    Since Trump was elected, I have said that all that was needed was for President Trump to threaten Egypt by withholding aid to pressure Egypt to abide by international asylum law and open up the Rafah border to allow Gazans to leave. They could have left months ago, as they themselves want to leave (according to polls conducted by a Ramallah based polling company. Link in comment)

    Let’s be clear—this is just the beginning. Many more will be leaving. But it’s the most hopeful sign we’ve seen yet that reality is finally catching up to the obvious truth: there can be no peace, no security, and no future for Israel as long as a population of an Islamonaz*i enemy sits on our border, indoctrinated with genocidal Jew-hatred and raised by their own mothers to worship death.

    And let’s not kid ourselves, not one of them can remain in Gaza. Not one. Every single one of them has been educated by their mothers and the internationally funded UNRWA educational institutions to murder Jews.

    Otherwise, we’ve accomplished nothing in this war, because if any of them remain, then every rocket, every tunnel, every massacre is just a matter of time.

    That’s why we must increase military pressure, not back off. As long as Hamas is under fire and life in Gaza is intolerable, the world will quietly allow what it would otherwise loudly oppose, mass emigration of the Gaza population from a war zone.

    And the sad hypocrisy is that the world loudly supports emigration of refugees from all other war zones, but somehow the world was against any Gazans emigrating from one.

    Hmm, I wonder why only Gazans are somehow damned to remain in one, according to Western “morality” and “human rights” organizations. It couldn’t be due to an anti-Israel agenda, could it?

    The most unbelievable aspect of this development is that Egyptian dictator al-Sisi is the one responsible for keeping the Rafah border closed until now, never receiving any pressure or requests from the Biden administration or international community to open it up.

    It is also critical to understand that Egypt also used Hamas as a proxy to attack Israel, and does not want Gazans in Egypt either. Yet, now Egypt is finally doing what Israel needs it to do in order for this emigration of Gazans through the Rafah border to happen.

    Behind closed doors, obviously pressure has been applied on Egypt from the Trump administration. Otherwise he would not be opening up the border and finally abiding by international asylum law.

    And every Gazan who leaves is one less future threat to Israeli children in Sderot, Ashkelon, and Tel Aviv.

    And for all the people who will use immoral claims against this step, remind them that this emigration is moral, legal, and essential for peace. And even more important, all the Islamonaz*I enemies who live in our midst in Judea, Samaria and even as Israeli citizens, will finally know the price they will pay as well one day for implementing their genocidal jihadi ideology against us.

    For 76 years, the world told the Jewish people to accept terror on our doorstep. Now, we say: no more. We are the sovereign nation of Israel. We are taking back control of our land, our future, and our destiny.

    And after they emigrate, the next steps necessary to ensure our enemies get the message that it is never in their interest to massacre us again, are Israeli sovereignty in Gaza and resettling our ancestral Gaza lands.

    Just as Jews lived there hundreds and thousands of years ago before the Arab Muslims came and brainwashed the world to think that it belongs to them. The time has come for justice, to make Gaza Jewish again, so we can all sit in homes on the dunes of Gaza singing the famous Shabbat song Ka Ribon, written by Rabbi Yisrael Najara who was the Chief Rabbi of Gaza City back in the 17th century.

    And the first step in this process is finally happening.

  44. You narcissistic so and so. I’ve been talking to you only. .If vivarto holds the same opinions of you that I have, I can .only commend his good sense.

    You gratuitously insult me for no reason, and then attribute my opinion of you to be a copy of another.
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    As for my Jewish and historical opinions they are all backed by solid evidence and paraphrased with my own totally logical and proven opinions.

    You need Zeitlin to give you some grounding/ I read Zeitlin already over 45 years ago, and much, much more since and before. All the pros and cons are in my library and mind.

    That you are too stupid to understand the natural steps from theory to facts, …..Welllll…….Get an education before criticizing one who has already had 50 years start on you.
    I know not much can be expected from American pseudo-Jews who’ve recently taken up Judaism as a new toy.

    How long before discarding it for, say, Zoroastrianism, or Mandean, or even the same mashuggena Christian cult that several on this site indulge in. You’d be welcome there where maybe nowhere else.

    Don’t bother your scattered wits to respond, I won’t reply.

  46. SEB-

    Where once you always made sense, your wanderings in and out of fake religious cults and smoking the wrong stuff have addled your brains like addled eggs.

    When you climb down to normality-if you ever to , and stop feeding us those crappy TV loony shows, you may be able to rationalise your past behaviour.

    And go on a crash diet, meaning cutting out treife. and chazar generally. Kosher is better.
    It’ll improve your supersize beachball figure.

  47. So, 2 Ukrainian synagogues firebombed, Putin orders freed Russian hostage to thank Hamas and compares Israel to Nazi Germany. Seriously, a plague on both their houses.

    By contrast, there was not one anti-semitic demonstration to greet PM Bibi Netanyahu’s visit to pro-Israel Hungary.