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By Peloni

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April 16, 2020 | 9,442 Comments »

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  1. @SEB-

    “Piet” reminded me of PIAT, which I know more about. It was/is a kind of hand held anti-tank gun firing a 3″ shell. It was a French designed WW2 item and also used by the Jews in 1948, which is mainly why I remember it.. I KNOW that as well as the “DAVIDKA”, which supplied the frightening noise and did little or no damage, the PIAT supplied far less noise and did a LOT more damage.

    Whoever Piet was he was obviously named Pieter and it’s a Flemish or Belgian name. I’m speculating of course but…….

  2. I meant, “poet” with1 second of editing time left but piet’s nice, too. Didn’t know it was a word.

    Piet
    Programming language

    Description
    Piet is a stack-based esoteric programming language in which programs look like abstract paintings. It uses 20 colors, of which 18 are related cyclically through a lightness cycle and a hue cycle.Apr 6, 2022
    https://esolangs.org › wiki › Piet
    Piet – Esolang, the esoteric programming languages wiki
    Maybe that would be a poet with synesthesia like the composer, Scriabin. But an artificial intellience that gained awareness arguing with fools on Israpundit. No ifs and or bots.

    “Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference

    Mark Twain? Biblical Proverb? Apocryphal? Anonymous?”

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/02/19/fool/

  3. I meant, “poet” with1 second of editing time left but piet’s nice, too. Didn’t know it was a word.

    Piet
    Programming language

    Description
    Piet is a stack-based esoteric programming language in which programs look like abstract paintings. It uses 20 colors, of which 18 are related cyclically through a lightness cycle and a hue cycle.Apr 6, 2022
    https://esolangs.org › wiki › Piet
    Piet – Esolang, the esoteric programming languages wiki

    Maybe that would be a poet with synesthesia like the composer, Scriabin. But an artificial intellience that gained awareness arguing with fools on Israpundit. No ifs and or bots.

    “Never Argue With a Fool, Onlookers May Not Be Able To Tell the Difference

    Mark Twain? Biblical Proverb? Apocryphal? Anonymous?”

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/02/19/fool/

  4. @Reader I thought you didn’t know and I was being helpful. So, you just didn’t notice the link at the time but commented anyway and now ordered ME to find the post again so I could copy it for you but accused ME of ordering you about when I merely suggested you do your own damn research to answer YOUR own dumb question which you shouldn’t have needed to ask in the first place instead of putting the cart before the horse and shooting your mouth off first and asking questions later?

    Wow! Talk about projection. But that’s what leftists routinely do folks. Step up now. Get yer tickets while they last. Two to a customer. Yes sirree.

    That’s the gratitude I get. No good deed goes unpunished. I don’t get any respect. I don’t get no satisfaction. My seconds will call on yours sir. I’m going to be executed for mixing too many metaphors first, anyway.

    I shouda been a piet

  5. @Peloni @Edgar aka Grasshopper It would seem Grasshopper as a nickname is a contranym.(at once wise and naive) also known ad an auto -antonym or autantonym or – oh, I give up, see below)You suppose whoever noticed this has an aunt – tante – like this?

    con·tro·nym
    /?käntr??nim/
    noun
    noun: contranym
    a word with two opposite meanings, e.g. sanction (which can mean both ‘a penalty for disobeying a law’ and ‘official permission or approval for an action’).
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    Translations and more definitions
    Auto-antonym

    Description
    An auto-antonym or autantonym, also called a contronym or antagonym among other terms, is a word with multiple meanings of which one is the reverse of another. For example, the word cleave can mean “to cut apart” or “to bind together”. This phenomenon is called enantiosemy, enantionymy, antilogy or autantonymy. Wikipedia

  6. @PELONI-

    I don’t consciously use any system. It’s like the old song.”Doing The What Comes Naturally”, as far as I know.

    I seem to recall reading years ago, that one of the British PMs used Pelmanism to arrange and memorise his thoughts. May have been some other “celebrity”.

    Maybe it’s some sort of associative system…?? tying knots in handkerchiefs may have been a “prototype”……Ahem…!!

  7. @SEBASTIEN-

    TV shows are……….well…..just TV shows. They make the impossible, possible. I saw some of that show.. and I knew that Carradine was the real father .

  8. @Sebastien Zorn

    The string of gibberish in another color

    It was easier for you to give the link again than to order me disdainfully to go looking for

    the string of gibberish in another color

    Order someone else around, not me.

  9. Krav Maga (Hebrew:], lit. “contact combat”) is a military self-defense and fighting system developed for the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Israeli security forces.[1][2] It is derived from a combination of techniques used in aikido, boxing, judo, karate, and wrestling.[3][4] It is known for its focus on real-world situations and its extreme efficiency.[5] It was derived from the street-fighting experience of Hungarian-Israeli martial artist Imi Lichtenfeld, who made use of his training as a boxer and wrestler while defending the Jewish quarter against fascist groups in Bratislava during the mid-to-late 1930s.[6] In the late 1940s, after his immigration to Mandatory Palestine, he began to provide lessons on combat training to what was to become the IDF…”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga

    Every Jewish child should train in Krav Maga from an early age.

  10. @Edgar @Peloni

    “Flasbacks are often used to recall specific lessons from Caine’s childhood training in the monastery from his teachers, the blind Master Po (Keye Luke) and Master Chen Ming Kan (Philip Ahn). In those flashbacks, Master Po calls his young student “Grasshopper”, given from a playful lesson he taught to Caine as a child about being aware of the world around him, including the grasshopper that happened to be at his feet at that moment..”

    Kung fu Wikipedia

    The boy repeatedly charges Master Po- the old blind man -with a club when Po instructs him to but handily deflected and the boy – Caine – sent in a backwards somersault from one blow. Later, the adult Caine teaches an old blind man played by real life fatherJohn Carradine to function.

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  11. Edgar @ Peloni This is what grasshopper evokes for me and probably my generation. From then on the old man always calls the boy, “grasshopper” in the flashbacks that punctuate the season that ran from 1972 to 1974. Possibly the most influential tv series made ever anywhere with worldwide influence on multtiple levels. though now mostly forgotten I’m sure. Amazon has it streaming for purchase. The only Buddhist Western ever made. 1972-74. 3 seasons

    https://youtu.be/gbNCBVzPYak

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(1972_TV_series)

  12. @Edgar @ Peloni This is what grasshopper evokes for me and probably my generation. From then on the old man always calls the boy, “grasshopper” in the flashbacks that punctuate the season that ran from 1972 to 1974. Possibly the most influential tv series made ever anywhere with worldwide influence on multtiple levels. though now mostly forgotten I’m sure. Amazon has it streaming for purchase. The only Buddhist Western ever made. 1972-74. 3 seasons

    https://youtu.be/gbNCBVzPYak

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(1972_TV_series)

  13. @Sebastien

    I’m afraid one must fight Alinsky with Alinsky to prevail.

    Sometimes fighting fire with fire is the more satisfying aspect of valor. Indeed, such curmudgeons are well beyond conversion by conversation, and will likely only see the light of reason as they plummet off the cliff of rational thought, and may still need the convincing bump awaiting them at the end of their long fall, simply to awaken them to the folly of their long held nature of dependency upon Democratic talking points as a substitute for thoughtful deliberation. So Alinsky on and give them hell, Harry, er, I mean Sebastien.

  14. @Edgar

    The “grasshopper mind”, maybe. I need a course in Pelmanism…….

    I am not certain what mental regimen or system you employ to catalog and readily access the steady length of knowledge that you share here along with many of the associated sources, but I will note that it is quite an impressive feat. Indeed, I have never known a grasshopper so well skilled as yourself, but then again, I do know so very few of them and have had even fewer opportunities to converse with them…LOL.

  15. ” People to whom things happen.”Maybe because I’m from New York. That would have been funny once. But I read the Defence/Security section of Arutz Sheva and TheJewishPress.com every day and what Israelis put up with is no joke.

    Some idiot woman in a coffee shop angrily told me she is Progressive and hates Trump BECAUSE she is a Jew. I almost spat at her in fury. We did have a nicely cathartic exchange of “fuck you’s” at the end, though I heroicallty or stupikdly tried to be diplomatic, at first.

    I’m afraid one must fight Alinsky with Alinsky to prevail.

  16. @Peloni @Honeybee

    There are people who make things happen, there are people who watch things happen, and there are people who wonder what happened. To be successful, you need to be a person who makes things happen.

    Jim Lovell

    Didn’t know the name, just the quote; turns out it’s not contested and he’s famous – one of the three astronauts who first landed on rhe moon in 1968. I almost saw it. I fell asleep waiting for them to get there while they showed fake-looking simulations of the capsule in space and an astronaut on a tether floating in space while a voice or voices droned in and on unintelligibly amidst a lot of static. Whaddyou want? I was 8 and spoiled by Star Trek and all the movies and shows produced on tv by Irwin Allen. They visited other galaxies in less than an hour with time for commercials!

    I wonder if the quote was inspired or influenced by the definitions – which read lije a joke of the schliemiel and the schlemazel. If you throw in the schmuck it might be pretty close.

    Oh, wait. I just re-read his quote. It’s close bur not exactly the one I knew and was looking for,

    “There are three kinds of people. There are people who make things happen, people to whom things happen, and people who saty, what happened?”‘

    To close for coincidence. Which came first? This reader wants to know.

  17. @Reader What article?

    The string of gibberish in another color is always a link to a web page, usually an article though it coyld be a video clip or cartoon. Click on it nd it will take you there. The original post followed by yours is on the previous page.

  18. @PELONI-

    No I’m sure it’s not the McFarlane one, Both title and author’s name are unfamiliar. The date may be in the vicinity, although I think about 20 or so years earlier. I’ll just have to wait until I see it or it occurs to me. In the meantime I’ll go quietly mashugga. I only began thinking about it because I’m reading a book now in which his name was casually mentioned. And, with me, even a passing name or phrase reminds me of something else. Thank you for trying.

    The “grasshopper mind”, maybe. I need a course in Pelmanism…….( I used to se it advertised in the back pages of the early Science Fiction Pulps, which I’d always read from cover to cover. Some fascinating ads, magical claims. I recall buying a lovely looking gun, which turned out to be very cheap plastic, (fell to pieces first time used) and itching powder, which was NOT appreciated by my brothers.

  19. @SEBASTIEN_

    I’ve looked at these earlier before I posted but none is the right one. Thank you all the same. Kingsley is the only one which has the name in the Title.
    I originally thought it was something like “The Last Englishman or The Last Saxon”, but they are about Harold Godwinson, who was defeated at Hastings, and I actually have it, although can’t recall the author’s name. “The Last of the Barons” is about Warwick “The Kingmaker”, a fascinating book but hundreds of years after Hereward. .

    Maybe next week or next year I’ll suddenly recall it, just like I did “Elephant in Jet” which had eluded me for decades, until it suddenly popped into my mind last year. If I DO get my books assembled as I hope, this summer then I’ll find it.

  20. @Edgar
    There are a few of them, but I am thinking that it is likely the Camp of Refuge by Mcfarlane from 1881. If so it is free online here link

    If this is not the one, there is a list of the titles from the 20th and 21st Century on the subject here link

    I still bet it is the one by McFarlane, though.

  21. I need some help here lads. I have a book, it’s all about Hereward the Wake, his stronghold in Ely and the Fens, his stand against the Normans, his eventual death, fighting. But it’s driving me crazy to recall the author. It’s not in my Bulwer Lytton stuff. And not Charles Kingsley, his book is far too flowery and old fashioned of content.

    There must have been other 19th cent authors who wrote on him.

  22. @Peloni @Honeybee

    “Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results

    Albert Einstein? Al-Anon? Narcotics Anonymous? Max Nordau? George Bernard Shaw? Samuel Beckett? George A. Kelly? Rita Mae Brown? John Larroquette? Jessie Potter? Werner Erhard?”

    Quote Investigator: There is no substantive evidence that Einstein wrote or spoke the statement above. It is listed within a section called “Misattributed to Einstein” in the comprehensive reference “The Ultimate Quotable Einstein” from Princeton University Press.[1]

    The earliest strong match known to QI appeared in October 1981 within a Knoxville, Tennessee newspaper article describing a meeting of Al-Anon, an organization designed to help the families of alcoholics. The journalist described the “Twelve Steps” of Al-Anon which are based on similar steps employed in Alcoholics Anonymous….”

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/23/same/

  23. @Peloni Here’s a mis or at least apocryphal attribution that I recently came across in an article and which I just looked uo on Quote Investigator. I was quite surprised. Next thing you know, we’ll be told that young George Washington didn’t tell his father, “I chopped down that cherry tree, father. I cannot tell a le.”
    No. That would be going too far.

    https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/03/23/same/

  24. @Sebastien

    Marx, Doesn’t credit Trotsky, strangely enough.

    I have to say that I found this quite amusing and the article quite interesting. You never fail to impress.

    @Reader
    You should read the article, aside from the humor Sebastien added, it is an interesting tell on a few things including sourcing as well as a lack of fidelity in recorded statements. It displays the great temptation for people to associate a known/current celebrity to add a measure of gravitas to a statement that really can just stand on its own with the actual author. It also demonstrates how history plays the child’s game of Operator when documentary evidence is cited or reproduced, something I spent a good bit of time in my younger years tracking down the best rendition of original sources of ancient records when the ancient records were lost to history so long ago.

    **The game of Operator is likely well known to all, but for those less familiar with it, one person whispers a statement to a second person who whispers it to a third and so on and so on thru the entire group til it is finally passed to the last person who reveals what he was told, and the final comment is too routinely twisted so far from the original that it sometimes is quite unrelated, sometimes.

  25. @Reader The normal response would be “Marx? Marx would never say something like that!” But your unexpected response typified what I was parodying, this obsession with Trotsky to the point of inappropriately and anachronistically inserting him in nearly every conversation.

    It was GROUCHO Marx among others quoting Robert Benchley in 1920. At the time Bolshevik Revolution and Civil War? Riots and revolutions sweeping the globe. Hello? And many of his friends like Dorothy Parker were becoming Marxists. It was all the rage. No pun intended. Not like now when Marxists have to sneak in through the back door disguised as something else.

    There are 2 classes of people, those who divide people into 2 classes and those who don’t.

    !

    You actually didn’t notice that?

    I didn’t expect anybody to respond. I expected that to be obvious.

    Great Expectations.

    Actually you guys have been pretty good for a few days but I know Trotsky and the Russian Revolution will make a roaring comeback in some irrelevant and anachronistic context any day now.

    Looking forward to it.

  26. @Reader You missed the joke because you didn’t click on the link and read the article, just the beginning, actually. That’s what you get for commenting on a a comment on something you haven’t bothered to look at. Common enough. We have periodic nationwide riots here in America by people who can’t be bothered to wait for evidence to be presented and arguments made in a trial.

  27. @Edgar
    Fair point. Compromised sources are compromised sources.

    My point was really related to the long treatise that was written by a (former ?) member of the Bellingcat community, Oleksiy Kusmenko, who is an avid researcher on the far right groups in Ukraine and has described how the Far Right have extended their reach into every unit of the Ukraine armed forces, something less well inclined to support British or American interests in a very big way, espicially during the ongoing test of wills between the West and Russia in the unfolding crisis in Ukraine. In any event, the toxic association must be considered somewhat toxic by any associated with it, as you suggest.

    Considering all of this, it is quite ironic that Bellingcat has been used as a high reference over the past years, as I have seen in reading articles over the past decade where the Bellingcat seal of approval on evidence was used as the true litmus test of truth telling in many East-West tales. I found an association of the founder with intelligence groups, which cause me some concerns, and then I read their position on the Scripal poisoning which I find quite amusing given what has been revealed on the subject. Then the Navalny poisoning. Then the Roman Abramovich poisoning. It strikes me funny that all of these people are supposedly targeted by Russia for certain death and yet they still aren’t dead, LOL. Of course many supposed victims of Russian poison are dead, but on whose word do we stand that these Russians are being poisoned by Russia? MI6? CIA? In the middle of a cold-gone-hot proxy war with Russia? Trust but verify is the phrase that comes to mind, of course, and that was the role played by the Bellingcat information-laundry, to provide the verification. Their stamp of approval does tell you something, but it is not that the info is verified accurate, but that the govt wishes you to accept it without question. Just further evidence that the Western institutions are ever presented as beyond hope of recovery…as if we needed any more evidence to support this well known fact.

  28. @SEBASTIEN_

    I believe that this has been tried more than once, and it seems to me that there was a rash of pregnancies about 35 years ago, and again a few years later. that there were complaints from many parents about their daughters’ becoming pregnant. I seem to recall -could be wrong- that the IDF arranged “abortion on demand kind of policy, perhaps for a while.

    Some years ago there were assessments of the performances of women in the IDF and they came a bad second to men. They were in tanks for a while until it was decided that the proximity of the sexes distracted both from full attention to emergencies etc. It may have been only an experiment of limited duration, I can’t recall.the details.

    There are some areas where women serve efficiently. I knew a woman IAF pilot, for instance. She was the first one in the service. a friend of my Tel Aviv. cousins..

  29. @PELONI-

    I could well believe that BellingCat might release anti-Govt information by govt instructions, just to create a little non homogeneity. When you think abut it, to have a totally acquiescent info bureau a kind of govt “yes’ man, can stir watchdogs, to naturally look around for something really harmful to govt.

    To find a govt outlet releasing anti-ga=oct info gives the public the feeling that their interests are being looked after.

    Just speculating, but I’ve known it to happen and I have a naturally suspicious mind..

  30. In the past many months, the mention of Bellingcat has been made on numerous threads here on Israpundit, many by myself, but by others as well. In looking into the claims over the years made by Bellingcat, it appeared to me that Bellingcat’s conclusions were too similarly associated with that of the the British govt. I read the assertion by many that Bellingat was actually a information outlet for MI6, which did make sense to me, particularly given their support of the govt narrative on the Scripal poisoning which is at best debatable and at worst a complete fraud, but Bellingcat asserts the govt view that it was unquestionably a Russian state opp.

    Recently, Max Blumenthal received some emails that demonstrate that he was to be the target of coordinated attack by a former Trotskyist and journalist, Paul Mason, and Amil Khan, a military contractor. In these emails they discuss their coordinated attack as follows:

    Together, Khan and Mason plotted to assemble a coalition of anti-Grayzone actors, including the US and UK government-funded “open source” outlet Bellingcat, which Mason revealingly described as a channel for “intel service input by proxy.”

    The defense offered by Mason was that the emails were “likely to be edited, distorted or fake”. The conditional qualifier of “likely” solidly refutes whatever strength in the excuse that follows, but the excuse that follows is actually three excuses, “edited, distorted or fake”. Anytime someone offers you multiple excuses, you should recognize that you are most likely being misled by someone who is poorly skilled at the task of misleading. Hence, this very strong absence of a clear denial that these emails are genuine leads me to clearly believe the emails are indeed quite genuine and there is no reason to disbelieve the statements about Bellingcat, as they were supportive of the manner in which Mason and Kahn were going to be attacking Blumenthal.

    Still, I found the revelations about Bellingcat far from shocking, and still believe now as I had formerly that the information that they share that is counter to the British govt narrative is likely accurate – why else would an organization funded by the British actually reveal info that is harmful to their paymasters if it weren’t true. Still the revelation is a welcome support of the view I developed of the Bellingcat organization as being quite compromised in favor of the British. It does appear that the US has a piece of the Bellingcat pie as well, so there is that. To his credit, I believe Reader mentioned something about this as well, so score again for good research to you Reader.

    Note to Bellingcat – you can fool some of the people all of the time, or all of the people some of the time, but you can’t go out and suggest that a fraud is definitely legitimate when it has been clearly exposed as fraudulent, without someone noticing your MI6 badge is showing. Don’t they teach these things in Spy School?

    Here is Blumenthal’s comments on the emails:
    https://thegrayzone.com/2022/06/07/paul-masons-covert-intelligence-grayzone/

    Here are the comments of Caitlin Johnstone more specifically on Bellingcat:
    https://consortiumnews.com/2022/06/09/caitlin-johnstone-paul-mason-says-bellingcat-launders-information-for-western-intelligence/

  31. Sébastien: And here I was thinkin that the French invented Cheesecake. That you for the great information. We seem to be on the same site Jewish Learning. I missed that article. My favorite Cheesecake recipe is on the Honey Maid Graham Cracker box. I add a little lemon juice and zest. ” A woman is know for her Cheesecake” Ida Morgenstern.

  32. And the end for me was when they blamed the mass murder of Jews during the second intifada on Sharon setting foot on the Temple Mount with a security detail, in other words, on the Jews.

  33. Most leftists, everywhere – then and now- just want to use us. The beginning of the end for me was my shock at the liberal and leftwing -” Progressive” – community – including Jews marching in lickstep – typo, but I’ll leave it since it fits – taking sides against the Jews during the Crown Heights Pogrom and murder.

  34. Cheese cake ?
    Brooklyn-Style Cheesecake
    “This is the best cheesecake I’ve ever eaten” was the response of the first three taste-testers who sampled this cake; and it’s gone on to garner similar responses everywhere it’s served. A towering, rich cheesecake, it’s made with a unique vanilla cake crust, the idea for which was pioneered by Junior’s Restaurant in Brooklyn, NY, self-proclaimed creator of the “World’s Most Fabulous cheesecake” — and they might just be right. Our thanks to Junior’s for the cheesecake recipe that inspired this one.

    PREP
    25 mins
    BAKE
    1 hr 25 mins to 1 hr 35 mins
    TOTAL
    1 hr 50 mins
    YIELD
    one tall 9″ cheesecake
    Brooklyn-Style Cheesecake
    Ingredients
    Crust

    1/2 cup (60g) King Arthur Unbleached Cake Flour
    6 tablespoons (74g) granulated sugar, divided
    3/4 teaspoon baking powder
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    3 tablespoons (35g) vegetable oil or 3 tablespoons (43g) melted butter
    3 large eggs, separated
    1 teaspoon vanilla extract
    1/4 teaspoon cream of tartar
    *If you don’t have cake flour, use unbleached all-purpose flour, reducing the amount to 7 tablespoons (1/2 cup less 1 tablespoon).

    Filling

    four 8-ounce packages (907g) cream cheese, at room temperature
    1 2/3 cups (331g) granulated sugar
    1/4 cup (28g) cornstarch
    1 tablespoon (14g) vanilla extract
    2 large eggs, at room temperature
    3/4 cup (170g) heavy cream or whipping cream, at room temperature
    Instructions
    Preheat the oven to 350°F. Lightly grease a 9″ round springform pan or deep 9″ round removable-bottom pan. This cake is very tall, and requires an extra-deep pan. Measure your pan; if it’s not at least 2 3/4″ deep, don’t attempt this recipe. Wrap the bottom and sides of the pan with aluminum foil, preferably a single sheet.

    To make the crust: Place the flour, 2 tablespoons of the sugar, the baking powder, salt, vegetable oil or butter, 3 egg yolks, and vanilla into a large mixing bowl. Beat until well combined; the mixture will be stiff and somewhat crumbly.

    In a separate bowl, beat the egg whites with the cream of tartar until they’re frothy. Add the remaining 4 tablespoons of sugar gradually, beating all the while, until the mixture is stiff and glossy.

    Working in thirds, mix the beaten egg whites into the batter. Take care to keep the batter light; mix gently, don’t beat. You may find at the end there are still some tiny lumps in the batter; that’s OK.

    Spoon the batter into the prepared pan. Bake for about 15 minutes, until the cake has risen, is barely beginning to brown, and a toothpick or thin paring knife inserted into the center comes out clean.

    Remove the cake from the oven, and immediately loosen the edges with a table knife or thin spatula. Allow it to cool in the pan while you make the filling. It’ll settle and shrink a bit as it cools; that’s OK. Leave the oven on.

    To make the filling: Place 8 ounces (1 package) of the room-temperature cream cheese, 1/3 cup of the sugar, and the cornstarch in a mixing bowl. Mix on low speed until smooth.

    Add the remaining cream cheese 8 ounces at a time, beating on low speed until smooth.

    Slowly beat in the remaining 1 1/3 cups sugar, and the vanilla.

    Add the eggs one at a time, beating well after each addition.

    Add the cream, beating just until blended.

    Spoon the batter over the cake in the pan. The filling will expand and rise, so make sure you don’t fill the pan right to the brim.

    Place the pan into a larger pan, and fill the larger pan with enough hot water to come 1″ up the sides of the springform pan. Place both pans on a lower-middle rack of your oven.

    Bake the cheesecake for 75 to 90 minutes, until the cake is just barely beginning to turn golden around the edges, and the top appears set. The center will still look jiggly; that’s OK. A thermometer inserted into the center should register about 160°F to 165°F.

    Remove the cake from the oven, and gently lift it out of the water bath onto a rack. Allow it to cool at room temperature, undisturbed, for 2 to 3 hours, until it’s no longer warm to the touch.

    Refrigerate the cake, covered, until you’re ready to serve it.

    To serve, slice with a knife dipped in hot water and wiped dry. Repeat this step after every slice. This cake is traditionally served without topping; but feel free to add your own favorite, if desired.

    Tips from our Bakers
    Want to make easy-to-serve cheesecake squares, rather than a traditional round cheesecake? Use your favorite graham cracker crust recipe; we like this one from our Chocolate Icebox Pie. Press the crust into the bottom of a lightly greased 9″ x 13″ pan, and bake it for about 10 minutes in a preheated 350°F oven, or until it’s barely starting to brown. Prepare the filling, and pour it over the crust. Bake as directed above, reducing the time to about 40 to 50 minutes, or until the crust is set. If you have a digital thermometer, the filling should register at least 160°F at the center of the pan. Remove the pan from the oven, and cool, chill, and serve the squares. Yield: about 2 dozen squares.