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By Peloni

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April 16, 2020 | 9,442 Comments »

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  1. Reader: “And then there will be a “birth control pill crisis” and a “condom crisis”, all caused by Putin’s aggression, of course.”
    Then expect an instant and full-force war on Putin.

  2. @Honeybee

    It is to have more responsibility for actions.

    Right.

    And then there will be a “birth control pill crisis” and a “condom crisis”, all caused by Putin’s aggression, of course.

    BTW, during the Great Depression a condom cost $1.00 when people got paid $2.00/day when they were lucky enough to have a job.

  3. @peloni

    Why would you think this?

    I gave you a hint “Guess why the Fuehrer wanted the women to have more babies?”

    Answer: because he was planning a big war.

    Same here.

    I think the PTB would like to have another Good War but, personally, I don’t think it will be “good”.

    I am not saying that those babies will be turned into soldiers but in the case of a (non-nuclear, at least) war they will serve as a buffer for the losses of many young men (their fathers and uncles).

    BTW, have you heard about the “baby formula crisis”?

    How many pregnant women will now want to rely on baby formula rather than breastfeeding for their newborns?

    Only the ones who are really, really stupid.

  4. @Honeybee Personally, I would just eat the green chiles first and then, with my mouth on fire, cool it off with the potato – or cauliflower? latkes – drenched in sour cream to cool it off and engance the flavor of both.

  5. @Reader

    They are not going to bring back the draft.
    One of the reasons, Ukraine is losing is that their soldiers are untrained in using American military hardware. They had been trained in the Russian.

    They had a big army but it didn’t help them.

    It’s all very hi-tech now. They need mature, educated and motivated, and disciplined recruits.

    Regular army was not mostly sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. Not all volunteers have the education needed.

    It was mostly older reservists.

  6. @Reader Why, you think anybody wants to bring back the draft? The army realized that most people are unfit for modern warfare. That’s why Iraq and Afghanistan were fought mainly by educated reservists with families paying off student loans and career professionals.

    One of the reasons, Ukraine is losing is that their soldiers are untrained in using American military hardware. They had been trained in the Russian.

    It’s all very hi-tech now. They need mature, educated and motivated, and disciplined recruits.

  7. @Reader

    this thing to me resembles “Have more babies for the Fuehrer!”

    That is quite a suggestion, given you think it is a barbaric practice. Why would you think this?

  8. @Nobody in Particular If there are any men out there who sympathize with the cop who was about to be sentenced for the death of George Floyd, could they be described as male chauvinists? I mean if anything can be labeled racist, can anything be labeled anything especially if the name fits?

    Feds Want 25 Years for Chauvin for Violating Floyd’s Rights

    https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2099441/feds-want-25-years-for-chauvin-for-violating-floyds-rights.html

  9. I regard abortion as a barbaric form of birth control but this thing to me resembles “Have more babies for the Fuehrer!”

    Guess why the Fuehrer wanted the women to have more babies?

  10. Peloni,

    Roe v. Wade overturn has restored health rights to unborn babies. God bless the six USSC justicies who made this happen, and Donald J. Trump, whose efforts appointed three of them.

    I am especially glad to see that the crowds gathering right now in DC are overwhelmingly young people, mostly women. It’s an “in your face” moment for Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of the Democrat mob in Congress, and for the hapless *president, Sleepy Joe Biden.

    America is now closer to protecting its GOD-GIVEN rights to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

  11. @Honey Salsa goes with Mexican corn chips. I sometimes eat dinner in a Mexican restaurant that seves chips and salsa if you order a beer. They’re good. But, well.

  12. @Honey Not around here, other than in stores which have everything including many Israeli products as well as as a kaleidoscopic variety of ketchup brands and types of ketchup among other products from many places. I get the jo sugar added Heinz ketchup from home but coffee shops (which are traditionally Greek) have remained blissfully the same.

    Hunts is the perennial number 2 but coffee shops have always carried Heinz. I tried jalapeno ketchup the other day on my Daisy cottage cheese with bits of pineapple. Not the same.

    TRADITION (Fiddler)

    and, let’s not forget the Russian aviary influence.

    https://youtu.be/VHIcmoY3_lE

  13. @Honeybee On the other hand, Kerry’s wife is heir to the quintessential American legacy, however. I have been liberally – in this sense, I am still quite liberal -pouring Heinz Ketchup on my eggs and home fries my entire life like everyone else who eats breakfast in Manhattanite coffee shops – now, once again dubbed diners . To paraphrase Trump on borders, without Heinz, you can’t have a country!

  14. Driver in 2017 Times Square rampage found not responsible due to mental illness
    Jury finds Richard Rojas was not responsible for his actions, which killed one and severely injured several others, due to mental illness.

    “…The prosecutor recounted that after the defendant crashed, the first words he spoke were, “I wanted to kill them all.”

    Defense attorney Enrico DeMarco argued that Rojas’s history of mental illness made it impossible for him to understand what he was doing that day.

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/355372

    That’s insane.

  15. @Sebastien

    The old Latma TV could have had fun with this

    Yes, they could have, but instead the IAF had their own fun with it. Rather a better choice I think.

  16. @Reader “The Trump peace plan, officially titled “Peace to Prosperity: A Vision to Improve the Lives of the Palestinian and Israeli People”, was a proposal by the Trump administration to resolve the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Donald Trump formally unveiled the plan in a White House press conference alongside Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu on 28 January 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan

    Not exact but pretty close

    “Jan 21, 2020 First confirmed case of Covid–19 found in US

    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/first-confirmed-case-of-coronavirus-found-in-us-washington-state

  17. @Reader

    Well, then how about all those countries that advocate the Two State Final Solution and finance the Arab settlement of the Jewish Biblical lands?

    “There have literally been dozens of instances in recent decades when the U.S. has been hit by some sort of immediate disaster when it has made a move toward the dividing of the land of Israel. The following are 10 of the most prominent examples that stand out to me:

    1. The last time the U.S. government refused to veto an anti-Israel resolution at the U.N. Security Council was in 1979. On March 22, 1979, the Carter administration chose not to veto U.N. Resolution 446. Four days after that on March 26, the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty was signed in Washington. As a result of that treaty, Israel gave up a tremendous amount of territory. Two days later, on March 28, the worst nuclear power plant disaster in U.S. history made headlines all over the globe. The following comes from Wikipedia:

    The Three Mile Island accident was a partial nuclear meltdown that occurred on March 28, 1979, in reactor number 2 of Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station (TMI-2) in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, United States. It was the most significant accident in U.S. commercial nuclear power plant history.[2] The incident was rated a five on the seven-point International Nuclear Event Scale: Accident With Wider Consequences.[3][4]

    2. On Oct. 30, 1991, President George H. W. Bush opened the Madrid Peace Conference, which brought Israelis and Palestinians together to negotiate for the very first time. In his opening speech, Bush told Israel that “territorial compromise is essential for peace.” At the exact same time, “the Perfect Storm” was brewing in the north Atlantic. This legendary storm traveled 1,000 miles the wrong direction and sent 35 foot waves slamming directly into President Bush’s home in Kennebunkport, Maine.

    3. On Aug. 23, 1992, the Madrid Peace Conference moved to Washington, D.C., and the very next day, Hurricane Andrew made landfall in Florida, causing $30 billion in damage. It was the worst natural disaster up to that time in U.S. history.

    4. On Jan. 16, 1994, President Clinton met with President Assad of Syria to discuss the possibility of Israel giving up the Golan Heights. Within 24 hours, the devastating Northridge earthquake hit southern California. It was the second worst natural disaster up to that time in U.S. history.

    5. On Jan. 21, 1998, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu arrived at the White House but received a very cold reception. In fact, President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright actually refused to have lunch with him. That exact same day, the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, sending the Clinton presidency into a tailspin from which it would never recover.

    6. On Sept. 28, 1998, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was working on finalizing a plan which would have had Israel give up approximately 13 percent of Judea and Samaria. On that precise day, Hurricane George slammed into the Gulf Coast with wind gusts of up to 175 miles an hour.

    7. On May 3, 1999, Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was supposed to hold a press conference to declare the creation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital. On that precise day, the most powerful tornadoes ever recorded in the U.S. ripped through Oklahoma and Kansas. At one point, one of the tornadoes actually had a recorded wind speed of 316 miles an hour.

    8. On April 30, 2003, “the Road Map to Peace” that had been developed by the so-called “Quartet” was presented to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon by U.S. Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer. Over the next seven days, the U.S. was hit by a staggering 412 tornadoes. It was the largest tornado cluster ever recorded up to that time.

    9. In 2005, President George W. Bush (the son of George H.W. Bush) convinced Israel that it was necessary to remove all of the Jewish settlers out of Gaza and turn it over entirely to the Palestinians. According to the New York Times, the very last of the settlers were evacuated on Aug. 23, 2005. On that precise day, a storm that would be given the name “Katrina” started forming over the Bahamas. The city of New Orleans still has not fully recovered from the damage that storm caused, and it ranked as the costliest natural disaster in all of U.S. history up to that time.

    10. On May 19, 2011, Barack Obama told Israel that there must be a return to the pre-1967 borders. Three days later on May 22, a half-mile-wide EF-5 multiple-vortex tornado ripped through Joplin, Missouri. According to Wikipedia, it was “the costliest single tornado in U.S. history.”

    https://www.charismanews.com/opinion/62044-10-times-god-has-hit-america-with-a-major-disaster-after-the-us-attempted-to-divide-the-land-of-israel

  18. @Sebastien Zorn

    No hation that hurts israel deserves to live.

    Well, then how about all those countries that advocate the Two State Final Solution and finance the Arab settlement of the Jewish Biblical lands?

  19. @Sebastien
    Yes. This is the most detail I have seen on the attack reported so far:

    The UK-based opposition war monitor – The Syrian Observatory For Human Rights – reported on Saturday that the attack damaged the airport’s runway, causing a halt to civilian flights.

    The report also said terminal arrival halls used by Iranians were destroyed, as were a communication’s towers, lighting systems and warehouses.

    Israel has long claimed that since Iranian flights carrying weapons systems for Hezbollah came under attack, weapons were being sent to Damascus from Iran via European airports and on board civilian flights.

    According to the rights group, the warehouses and terminal halls hit were used by Iran not only as VIP facilities, but also in order to store the smuggled weapons, including equipment used to turn rockets into precise missile systems.

    https://jewishnews.com/2022/06/12/alleged-israeli-airport-strike-warning-to-syria-that-allows-iran-to-use-civilian-flights-for-terror/

  20. @Edgar
    YES!!! AT LONG LAST!!!

    It isn’t official yet, as the vote will take place next week, and there is still a possibility to form a Right wing govt, or even a Right wing dominated govt with some leftist members if needed to form a govt. Yamina and New Hope would be great fools to leave Lapid as caretaker PM, and would suffer significantly at the polls for that and their past mischief in this govt of self interests. So perhaps, Bibi will pull something out of the hat to prevent Lapid’s ability from bringing Israel any closer to a full breach with Russia. It does appear that one way or another, though, the Bennett govt is on its last week. That govt smelled too ripe in its first week and has only matured in that sense in the intervening time.

  21. This shouldn’t be in Chit-chat but there is no article with which to connect it.

    I’m surprised that nobody has commented on the fall of Bennett’s chazartse government. I recall when it began there were “prophesies” that it would not last more than a year….

    AT LAST…..!!

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  22. @READER-

    NOW….Sirota was a REAL Baritone, and could venture into bass on occasion. I recall mentioning him before, and that a grand-nephew, Leon Sirota was a popular singer in the mid 20th cent in England under the name of Lee Lawrence. I think he could sing baritone also….but not in Shool…………..

    I have lots more irrelevant info for your delectation if you should so want.

    LOTS…….

  23. @READER-

    I wouldn’t call Netanyahu’s voice “baritone”….rather UniTone.
    Of course I’ve never heard him sing and presume that you have. So maybe he’s good, even at that advanced age.

    “Chazan Binymin”…this has a kind of mellifluous sound to it. Soothing.

    Did you ever hrear of Gershon Sirota, the greatest cantor in Europe. I hear that Dershowitz says that he was the “greatest chazan in the world”.

    I’m going to write to the Dersh, because I have the reflected glory of having been very close to Sirota’s grand daughter for several years and later a lifelong friend.

    Strange coincidence, his daughter marrying a Dublin Yid,- once an international soccer player and International cricketer. He actually played on the Dublin Jewish Irish Cup-winning team of which my dear late father was Captain..

  24. @SEBASTIEN-

    I suppose he was serious. Being in Israel, and surrounded by nothing but Jews actually psychologically does something to a person. I experienced it myself.,

    Yet, my experience with “fundraisers” and “celebrities”, makes me suspicious. It matters little of course the effect was the thing. Yet, just for this personal chat, I like to go deeper. I’ve been thinking about it. and this was about 10 years before he died.

    He was hitting 60 and his career was now mainly guest appearances, some radio shows and cameo appearances in films. Typical career wind down; and this trip may have had the partial purpose of reviving his flagging career. His big successes were 10+ years behind him. Anyway I just looked him up. The poor guy got a heart attack later in 1952.

  25. @SEBASTIEN-

    Yes I saw all that already. What I would like to have known was NOT how much he raised, but because he’s the subject of our conversation and you are lauding him for all these things. I want to know HOW MUCH he contributed himself. Who paid for his Israel trip. How many times was this 100% Jew ever in Israel. Dis he ever make a second trip….? Etc.

    {Awards are just so much rubbish. I myself have won many awards, certificates, silver/gold medals, silver cups, (one a solid silver replica of the Ardagh Chalice on a heavy green Connemara marble base) pewter mugs etc. and I don’t have the slightest idea where they are. I think in a trunk out in a back shed in my house, although I don’t live there now}.

    {Just to let you know. In all the older novels beer was always served in pewter mugs. It was a “given” I can tell you that it doesn’t taste any better, in fact I think,. rather less palatable. I have two pint mugs, one for Tennis and the other for Boxing. I used to have a great display on the sideboard, but….I was a kid then…. means little or nothing now}.

    You know what I mean. These usually (not Cantor) pot bellied, ovwerfed fund raisers get a huge expense account and rarely -if ever-does more than 10-15 % of the money raised ever reach the destination it was meant for.

    When my dear late mother went around knocking on doors or to offices,to collect funds for poor brides, or the destitute sick, 100% went to the proper places, including a good donation from us to start it off.

    You well know that “Fund Raising” is little more than a scam. I know it. So should you.

    My experience tell me that Cantor and other celebrities got all expenses paid trips to Israel, and perhaps even fees as extras. He was being used as a front for fundraising, as it obviously appears.

  26. #

    Good find. It must have been around 1951 or thereabouts. Weizman died in ’53. He certainly saw a lot. Looks very different from his stage perona. No clown gimmicks. The only think that jarred me was his “6 minutes” with Ben Gurion. A man I could not stand.

    It was HE who began all the canards about “we are stealing their land, and we are stealing their country from them. It’s their country etc.etc.” Naturally they hate us for pushing them from their homes and land. “We are the invaders and occupiers of their land”.. All good socialist crap.

    But it wasn’t socialism which made him betray the Irgun to the British, just plain hatred. And this is the criminal who ordered Rabin to fire on Jews just out of the British Concentration pens , and before that straight from the death camps. Killing them when they were struggling from drowning, after abandoning the Altalena, attacked and sunk by Rabin, again on Ben Gurion’s orders.

    Because Den Gurion wanted to be the big cheese and knew that Begin didn’t respect him one bit….another “hate”…”that man”…

    Bennett, Sa’ar more haters….. who would destroy the country rather than allow Netanyahu to succeed. And they are NO “Sampsons”.

    .Again to Eddie…As for him, he could well afford it. Godd for him. I wonder how much he gave to Israeli charities, or if any Kibbutzim were supported by him…As I say, he could well afford it, and hope he paid for his own trip to Israel…..

  27. @ Edgar Eddie Cantor Receives 1947 United Jewish Appeal Award for Humanitarian Service

    Eddie Cantor, noted stage and screen star, this week received the 1947 award presented by the United Jewish Appeal “for outstanding humanitarian service” in devoting unceasing effort in behalf of the relief, rehabilitation and resettlement of the Jewish survivors in Europe.
    https://www.jta.org/archive/eddie-cantor-receives-1947-united-jewish-appeal-award-for-humanitarian-service

    He was also one ofs the founders and early presidents of the Screen Actors Guild

    @Edgar Eddie Cantor in Israel fundraising for Israel early 50s film short for American audiences.

    https://youtu.be/7qNCVYCXeaE

    https://www.jta.org/archive/eddie-cantor-ridicules-arab-announcement-placing-his-films-under-ban

    https://www.nytimes.com/1961/10/23/archives/arabs-blacklist-eddie-cantor.html

  28. @ Edgar Eddie Cantor Receives 1947 United Jewish Appeal Award for Humanitarian Service

    Eddie Cantor, noted stage and screen star, this week received the 1947 award presented by the United Jewish Appeal “for outstanding humanitarian service” in devoting unceasing effort in behalf of the relief, rehabilitation and resettlement of the Jewish survivors in Europe.
    https://www.jta.org/archive/eddie-cantor-receives-1947-united-jewish-appeal-award-for-humanitarian-service

    He was also one ofs the founders and early presidents of the Screen Actors Guild

    @Edgar Eddie Cantor in Israel fundraising for Israel early 50s film short for American audiences.

    https://youtu.be/7qNCVYCXeaE

    https://www.jta.org/archive/eddie-cantor-ridicules-arab-announcement-placing-his-films-under-ban

    https://www.nytimes.com/1961/10/23/archives/arabs-blacklist-eddie-cantor.html

  29. @ SEBASTIEN-

    You may be #3 -after Myron….but….. I’m…… hesitating……. I think that Julian Rose, who also wrote his own stuff, was 30-40 years earlier than Bruce. Bruce I couldn’t stand. There is never any real need for obscenities, and to include them is so-called humour, is gruesome beyond all measures. And…… I couldn’t see his kind of “humour” as funny. Objectionable…yes, but funny NO. Common vulgarity, which is plentiful in the normal American everyday language, is more than enough for me.

    That “Yesh” is appealing. It seemed that the link would lead me to “Bananas”, but I suppose your choice. is just as apt Maybe that’s why we get along without to much controversy, our sense of humour-I certainly appreciate yours.

    I liked Eddie Cantor, mainly I think because he was a Jew. His style, not so much, He was just a song and dance man with a lot of energy. For me, there was nobody like Jolson.

    One thing about Myron which was fascinating, I was always “half”-expecting his ears to begin flapping and raise him a few inches off the floor.

  30. @Edgar Yes, he said that, too. Twain is like Shakespeare – you have to wade through tomes of boring stuff to get to the juicy oneliners everybody quotes.

    I listened to Myron Cohen as a boy. He had a long career. There are Youtube videos from 50s, 60s, and 70s.

    He actually told jokes. Nobody does that anymore. Not for decades. I guess starting with Lennie Bruce, monologists became the norm. Even in the heyday of Borscht Belt comedy, I think it was mostly punchlines, I’m guessing. Not so much jokes?

  31. I think Twain said that “they drag you down to their level and beat you up through experience”. I’m a many (nearly 20 years) member of a boxing site called boxingscene. One of the members has the Twain quote permanently inscribed on all his posts. So it is very familiar to me, having seen it perhaps hundreds of times.

    I think that, in various ways I’ve pointed this out to at least 1-2 of our posters who waste an enormous amount of time doing ,,,,”what they shouldn’t bother doing”….

    It’s like the old Russian story of the officer riding through a Jewish village and saw, on the village inn wall, a series of circles, each with a hole in the middle. He wanted to immediately enlist this super brilliant marksman. Making enquiries, he found that it was the landlord’s half-witted son. He spoke to him and asked him how he became such a great shot.

    “Naah it’s easy” said the poor schlemiel. “How so” asked the officer. “Well, first you make the hole, then you draw the circle”…see….its’ easy” was the answer.

    I know you’ve all heard this a dozen times, but it reminds me of Twain’s remark about arguing with fools. If you don’t see the connection, than here’s a reminder by Jackie Mason.

    Says he.. “do you know that in Jewish Law, eating chametz on Pesach is as heinous a sin as committing adultery..”…… You didn’t???

    “Well it IS…but…I’ve tried them both, and just can’t see the comparison”..!

    My all time favourite stand-up comedian, second is Myron Cohen, the rest are “also rans”..