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By Peloni

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April 16, 2020 | 9,226 Comments »

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  1. @Sebastien
    He has exposed a great many things, including the border as you note which is why I think his show is an important outlet for the topics he does cover. Given the suggestion that he is looking to enter the political fray, however, there is a question that really does bite. As a champion of MAGA, why is it that he has failed to place a spotlight on the election fraud. The appearance that is being sold to the masses that no one cares about election reform, supported by the election(read as ‘selection’) of candidates that do not support election reform or election inquiry(see Colorado), is exactly the topic that should be seen as the most pivotal. As local election tallies, which should only increase as votes are counted, are seen to go up and down and not match the state tallies, Tucker is reporting on many topics of note, but not this one, which should be all that anyone is talking about.

    Indeed, the most important issue to MAGA has to remain the election theft, not Ukraine, not the border, not the economy – all important topics and there are many others, but the election theft has to top them all. If MAGA doesn’t have the ability to openly compete with the potential of actually having their candidates elected, as we can see has been clearly demonstrated is the case with the rigged elections in Colorado, Georgia and elsewhere, then the MAGA movement becomes nothing more than an echo-chamber from which the Reps can soak in fundraising from their malcontented supporters. In fact, the election theft is why the Dems hold the Senate and the House and the presidency. The election theft is also the root cause for all the stories that Tucker does cover in detail. Of course while he covers these stories in detail, he continues to ignore the pivotal topic of the election theft, even of those races that are currently being stolen. This does seem to be something of an oddity given the fact that Tucker himself will be faced with the unkind prospect of being selected against with a rigged election should he actually run… that is, of course, unless he is selected to win the rigged election.

  2. @Sebastien

    If that’s all there is, it’s not enough to make a political issue out of neighbors having dinner together.

    That is not all there is, not by a good bit. I really don’t care who someone might dine with. I can’t answer for the moral, political, ideological or legal indiscretions of the people whom I have dined with over the years, and would not hold such trivialities as the standard of guilt on others, though remarkably many will support doing exactly that, crazy as it seems to me.

    The greatest connection with the Bush wing is not thru Bush, but with the Koch brothers. They are big on open borders and opposed everything, nearly, that Trump did during his presidency. They aligned with Soros to oppose Trump in 2020. You can find their positions on any given topic easily enough, but I think Peg Tierney might have covered some of it in her piece I linked earlier. He worked for the Koch’s at their Cato Institute where he was a Senior Fellow advocating their policies. He later founded a media group, Daily Caller, by partnering with a Dick Cheney aid, Neil Patel. Daily caller has received over $500K in support from the Koch’s in the years upto 2015, but in 2016, the Koch’s donated over $900K to DC in that single year, comprising 84% of their revenue. In 2017, they donated just shy of a $1million to them(link). It begins to paint an interesting picture, no?

    He also severely reprimanded a reporter at the Daily Caller for attacking Fox News when they threw hard balls at Trump in the 2016 election debate due to meddling by Murdoch, and threw soft balls at Rubio – Rubio was the Fox pick for that election, but that is another story, but an interesting one. The reporter later quit because of the exchange with Carlson over the rebuke. Fox is run by the Murdoch’s one of whom is a noted close friend with Tucker, and the Murdoch’s are another bunch of open border advocates. They pay Tucker’s salary and allow Tucker to dominate their network with rhetoric that is only heard on Tucker’s show. Recall the pivotal role played on election night 2020 by Fox calling the election early, eerily predicting the election tally quite accurately, despite the fraud involved in that tally, ie their prediction accurately predicted the fraudulent value, 8 days before the fraudulent values were released. None of this is Tucker’s doing, but he is a major part of Fox, a close friend of Murdock’s, a former employee of the Koch’s, a former partner with a Cheney aid, and his major donor during and after the 2016 election was the Koches. That is a great deal more than just dining with the Bush’s which only speaks of his poor taste in social circles or neighbors.

    I don’t care to malign Tucker, falsely, but that is a lot of Rino baggage to bear to my eyes. Still, I only stopped watching his show because I stopped watching Fox after they played their role in triggering the election fraud with the AZ election call, but there are significant questions about his Rino connections, IMO, which he claims were only changed due to Trump’s advocacy in 2016. Whereas this has been true for many people, I wouldn’t support these cross-overs for high political office over the candidate that drew them to cross over and I would question why they would challenge the fellow who drew them to cross-over.

    Indeed, the fact that he is claiming there is no real candidate for 2024 and that he is entering that race, does present to me the greatest support to disbelieve his sincerity on this subject, and gives the Rino baggage he carries much more weight as a consequence. But again, that is just me.

  3. Sebastien

    Then why has he devoted so much airtime to Hunter Biden’s laptop and influence peddling to America’s enemies.

    It is a fair question. The honest answer is I do not know.

    Relationships mature over time, and not always for the better, so perhaps this is the reason. In business you form friendships with colleagues, but when it comes down to it, business is business and the best friendships are sometimes the casualties of choices made in business, so perhaps the answer to your question lies here. And then again, there is the favorite response of most MAGA proponents which is thrown about with greater generosity than alcohol at an irish wake, namely that he is controlled opposition, setup to appear as a MAGA proponent so to position him with an impeachable front from which to deal a lethal blow at the appropriate time.

    I know this latter point was the opinion of Laura, our former acquaintance who parted our company here on Israpundit a few months ago due to her objections over the open debate on Russia vs Ukraine. She was very outspoken on Tucker’s real motive when he ripped apart Ted Cruz about six months ago. I was well aware of the objections regarding Tucker, and there are more sources for these objections than those I shared, with the authors all claiming to have broken the story over the past year. In any event, as I told Laura during the Cruz escapade, I couldn’t care less what Tucker really thinks or who his real friends are, as he is a commentator reporting a story with a commentary that I find reasonable, relevant and with an entertaining manner. When he moves into being the candidate rather than talking about the candidate, it demands answers to questions which really were irrelevant to the facts he had been relating as a commentator.

    Hence, as a commentator, I believe Tucker is top notch, but as a political candidate, he has a great deal of baggage which really requires him to answer exactly the type of questions you raised here.

  4. @Peloni

    SPOTTED: GEORGE W. BUSH and TUCKER CARLSON having dinner at the private home of a neighbor on the exclusive Gasparilla Island, Fla., where they both have homes.

    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/01/19/the-washington-trump-leaves-behind-491443

    If that’s all there is, it’s not enough to make a political issue out of neighbors having dinner together. Remember when prominent Dems and Republicans even got married despite differences?

    and remember this?:

    “When Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, she relied on Henry A. Kissinger’s counsel. He would send her “astute observations about foreign leaders” and “written reports on his travels.” She would joke with him that smartphones would have made his covert Cold War trip to Beijing impossible.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/12/hillary-clintons-ties-to-henry-kissinger-come-back-to-haunt-her/

  5. @Peloni

    He is also a friend of Hunter Biden,

    Then why has he devoted so much airtime to Hunter Biden’s laptop and influence peddling to America’s enemies.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-hunter-biden-business-dealings-china-joe-biden

    “…Whatever helps the Chinese government, Joe Biden has dutifully done. Whatever hurts America’s most important strategic interests, he has also done. But why is he done this? How did the Chinese government wind up with so much control over the United States president, over Joe Biden’s behavior?

    ‘We’ve been mulling that for more than a year and that’s why since October of 2020, we have been on the Hunter Biden laptop story because that seems like the key to this question: how the Chinese government got so much control over Joe Biden. Now the tech companies have tried to censor that story at every turn. They’re doing so again tonight and it’s not surprising why. They’re beholden to China as well, but we’ve continued to pull those threads; so has the Daily Mail….”

  6. @Sebastien
    Yes, Tucker is a great commentator, he is very direct, and doesn’t pull his punches and has a unique sense of humor that is all his own. That being stated, he is a known pal of the Bush wing of the GOP, and the Koch brothers more specifically – the truest never-Trumpers. He is also a friend of Hunter Biden, even having been contacted by Hunter to help squash a story in which Hunter claimed to be falsely attributed to him in late 2015, which was during the 2016 political season. Hunter also wrote a letter on behalf of Tucker’s son to help him in his attempts to be accepted to Georgetown Univ. in 2014.

    Peg Tierney wrote today and revisited Tucker’s Koch connection – wow, she really hates Tucker, like the plague:
    https://www.tierneyrealnewsnetwork.com/post/tierney-s-real-news-7-18-22

    Here is an article about Tucker that Tore Maras, the Kracken whistleblower, wrote some time back:
    https://toresays.com/2021/05/24/exclusive-dear-tucker-dont-be-ashamed-own-it/

    In any event, I think Tucker can do some damage to the party if he runs, particularly if he goes Libertarian, but he is not the MAGA advocate that he is perceived to be, IMO. I still like him for his witty commentaries and his brutal reporting style, but he is who he is, and I very much count him among the open border lot of Rinos despite the stories he covers and the truths he exposes, including those on his buddy Hunter Biden. Just my own opinion, though.

  7. @Peloni What a waste. Even if he had a chance of being anything but a spoiler candidate, he could never play as valuable a role in politics as he does as a journalist.

  8. THEY ALL LIED AND WE HAVE PROOF! Highly Sensitive DOJ Jan 6. Documents Leaked to The Gateway Pundit – FBI Confidential Human Source INFILTRATED Proud Boys, Ran FBI Operation on J-6, Reported They Were INNOCENT! — See Texts and Documents IN FULL!!

    As a related aside, there is a bit of a war among the Patriots (actually there are a great many wars among the patriots, not to digress) over whether Chris Wray, head of the FBI, is a member of the Deep State or if he is a White Hat (good guy).

  9. @SEB=

    I was inoculated against Phuns many years ago so am immune. I read and appreciate it, but rarely indulge. You are pretty good at it. Indications of an agile mind. (like Groucho)

  10. @Edgar

    You should have caught the “phunny” also, since you were in a (manic)…

    Get yourself back into a “manic” state (used to be called, creative or stream of consciousness now it’s all dismissed as Dad jokes) so you can explain the humor of “phunny”. Oh, You meant “punny”. Got it. The h threw me.

    By the way, I just watched a couple of James Bond films. On YouTube, there’s several compilations of Witticisms from the films. A couple are entitled, “License to Pun.” That’s why these films have endured.

  11. @Sebastien

    EU Declares Fossil Fuel To Be “Green” Energy As ‘Climate Change’ Narrative Self-Destructs

    It would seem that the myth of the toxic energy has outlived its narrative usefulness. Or is it that climate changed just changed direction – is carbon now climate protective? Whatever, Slava climate!!…or something like that.

  12. Gantz, Abbas, Celebrate Together Abraham’s Sacrifice of Ishmael
    By David Israel – 9 Tammuz 5782 – July 8, 2022

    According to WAFA, the official Palestinian Authority’s news agency, “the President of the State of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas, received, this Thursday evening, at the presidential headquarters in Ramallah, Israeli Minister Benny Gantz. From his part (sic.), Minister Gantz extended congratulations to the president and the Palestinian people on the occasion of Eid al-Adha.”

    Before we move on with the friendly meeting, some background: nothing represents more bluntly the assembly of lies at the core of Islam which is aimed at denying the veracity of the Torah than Eid al-Adha (Holiday of the Sacrifice).

    According to Oxford Islamic Studies, it honors the willingness of Ibrahim (Abraham) to sacrifice his son Ismail (Ishmael) as an act of obedience to Allah’s command. Before Ibrahim could sacrifice his son, however, Allah provided him with a lamb which he was supposed to kill in his son’s place because of his willingness to sacrifice his own son in the name of Allah. In commemoration of this intervention, animals are ritually slaughtered. One-third of their meat is consumed by the family which offers the animal, while the rest of the meat is distributed to the poor and the needy. Sweets and gifts are given, and extended family get-togethers are celebrated.

    In other words, the illiterate caravan security guard Mohammed stole from the stories he had heard from traveling Jewish merchants the story of the Akeida (the Binding of Isaac), changed the names, and created a nice Islamic tradition for the whole family.

    And that is what Israel’s defense minister, Benny Gantz, honored Thursday night. Somebody, make sure he comes to shul on Rosh Hashanah to hear our version.

    The two, who hadn’t met since the onslaught of Arab terrorist murders in the streets of Israeli cities last March, discussed President Joe Biden’s visit to the region next week. But there was more: Ganz asked that the Palestinian Authority expand its security activities in Area A, to prevent future massacres of Israeli civilians. He also pleaded with Abbas to refrain from suing Israel in the International Criminal Court in The Hague, despite the fact that such lawsuits constitute a violation of the Oslo Agreements and should be punished.

    In exchange for Abbas agreeing not to go Dutch, Gantz offered to increase the number of work permits issued to PA Arab workers; make it easier for PA Arabs to travel abroad through the new Ramon Airport; and establish a symbolic PA military presence at the Allenby crossing to Jordan.

    Who said terrorism doesn’t pay?

    The defense ministry issued this press release Thursday night: “The meeting was conducted in a good spirit and positive atmosphere. The two discussed during their meeting the security and civilian challenges in the area. The Defense Minister updated Abbas on the complexity of the coming period in Israel, and the two agreed to continue close security coordination and avoid measures that would harm stability.”

    Happy binding of Ishmael day.

  13. @Sebastien

    Is the timing of this article ironic or just typically clueless ideologically motivated doubling down , do you suppose?

    Interesting article, not regarding its content, but as you note, the timing is eerily coincidental.

    I had an old lab partner who came from Japan. Her name was Mai and she taught me a great many things about her homeland and her culture. The thing which the article fails to actually cite is the fact that the Japanese have never had an issue with gun crime, or crime in general. Their society is very strongly disciplined and accepting of authority. The assassination (attempt??) of Abe is very regrettable, but it is also quite unbelievable given this fact.

    Regarding the timing, I am quite suspicious to be honest, as it is too coincidental to ignore. Additionally, the story by itself is an abuse upon the Japanese culture and one that makes no sense at all – a popular, recently retired politician, publicly executed at a political event. Mai passed away several years ago, but were she still alive, I know the sense of shock this would have brought upon her. Respect for authority figures is a hallmark of who the Japanese are. Violent attacks upon such individuals in Japan, outside their parliament fist fights of course, are quite rare, even ignoring the lack of gun violence.

    Japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the world and it also has one of the lowest unsolved crime rates in the world as well – always a good incentive to behave, but it is really their culture, I believe, that keeps these rates low.

  14. @Sebastien

    Is the timing of this article ironic or just typically clueless ideologically motivated doubling down , do you suppose?

    Interesting article, not regarding its content, but as you note, the timing is eerily coincidental.

    I had an old lab partner who came from Japan. Her name was Mai and she taught me a great many things about her homeland and her culture. The thing which the article fails to actually cite is the fact that the Japanese have never had an issue with gun crime, or crime in general. Their society is very strongly disciplined and accepting of authority. The assassination (attempt??) of Abe is very regrettable, but it is also quite unbelievable given this fact.

    Regarding the timing, I am quite suspicious to be honest, as it is too coincidental to ignore. Additionally, the story by itself is an abuse upon the Japanese culture and one that makes no sense at all – a popular, recently retired politician, publicly executed at a political event. Mai passed away several years ago, but were she still alive, I know the sense of shock this would have brought upon her. Respect for authority figures is a hallmark of who the Japanese are. Violent attacks upon such individuals in Japan, outside their parliament fist fights of course, are quite rare, even ignoring the lack of gun violence.

  15. @PELONI-

    A wealth of information indeed. Yet, I do not believe, under any circumstances conceivable, that Ben Gurion was fooled for one moment. Begin must have publicly chosen to “believe it;(he was a politician also) Remember he was a tough hard Russian Jew. My Dublin Community was full of them. My grandfather, after whom I was named, was just a picture perfect example. My beloved father told me that when he was already a married man of 27-8 years old. (likely about 3 years older as he never knew his exact age-I uncovered it not long before he passed away by an unusual piece of detective work.) his father was annoyed with him and slapped him across the face, a not unusual act.

    My dear father began working at aged 10, earned a shilling a week and saved his money, every penny, for a few years, and opened his own business. When it showed success, his father took it over and put his own name on it.

    So, Ben Gurion, when he “got his knife into you”, it was a lifelong hate; his life was full of political scheming. He winkled Weizmann out of the Prime Ministership, which he deserved to have, as it was by HIS statesmanship and lifetime labour, that caused Israel to come into being. It was his untiring efforts to meet with Truman and his frantic urging for Ben Gurion to “declare a state immediately at all costs”, when BG wavered and was going to postpone, that pushed Israel into being.

    Regarding France, I note what you say and agree totally, but would like to add that I believe that France had that interest in the Jews controlling Palestine as they always had felt a nettle itch, because, although it was THEY who conceived, and persuaded the Egyptian Pasha to agree, and they built the Suez Canal, it ended up in British hands, (through D’Israeli and the Rothschilds), like much else that France felt entitled to. Don’t forget, regardless of French-UK alliances, they were alliances of mutual necessity only, Friendship did NOT exist between them The “Biftek” Bulldog was always “Perfidious Albion”.

    Just my opinion, but I think, likely.

    That film ‘SUEZ” with Tyrone Power and Annabella. I always likeed Annabella. Very enjoyable if not exactly accurate film.

    An odd thing… The Champion boxer Georges Carpentier, in my opinion, bore a resemblance to Annabella whose family name was “Charpentier”:.

    With an Israel under obligations to France, right next door to the Canal it would be advantageous to France at some future time.

  16. @Peloni Is the timing of this article ironic or just typically clueless ideologically motivated doubling down , do you suppose?

    “Japan has almost completely eliminated gun deaths — here’s how
    Chris Weller and Erin Snodgrass Updated Jul 5, 2022, 6:09 PM

    Japan is a country of more than 127 million people, but it rarely sees more than 10 gun deaths a year.
    Culture is one reason for the low rate, but gun control is a major one, too.
    Japan has a long list of tests that applicants must pass before gaining access to a small pool of guns. ..”

    https://www.businessinsider.com/gun-control-how-japan-has-almost-completely-eliminated-gun-deaths-2017-10

  17. (2 of 2)
    In support of their silent support of a proxy ally in the area, France agreed to also train another division (sometimes referenced as a brigade – the first one was just shy of 1000 men so this would likely have been the size of the second as well) of Irgunists from among the surviving members of the Concentration Camps to accompany the next arms shipment. Additionally, the French actively supplied both the Irgun and the Haganah with vital intelligence during the early part of the war, including the details surrounding the planned invasion by the Arab Legion at the outbreak of the war.

    When the Altalena arrived in Tel Aviv, and Rabin began his attack upon the Irgun weapons ship, the US and UK representatives were within ear shot of the fracas. Consequently, the French involvement as the source of the weapons was quite soon revealed creating an international incident. There was a board of inquiry pursued in France against those govt officials involved in providing the arms, but the only real consequence of the aftermath was really limited to effect of ending French interest in continuing their now exposed support of Israel, which was quite impossible after the tragedy that became known as the Altalena Affair.

    Regarding Rabin, in addition to the details you shared regarding the unconscionable actions taken by him on the beaches of Tel Aviv that day, he continued to shell the ship even after a truce had been agreed upon, and in Begin’s desperation to restore order and preserve the arms, a white flag of surrender was waived from the ship, and this too Rabin refused to recognize as the continuing shelling set fire to the ship. Their decided actions to destroy the Irgun that day was far too successful, and the echoes of their actions went well beyond the loss of even the arms – as you say, they would likely have taken all of Yesha.

    In fact, I would suggest it would have been far from impossible for a well armed Jewish army to have been capable of carving back at least part of Churchill’s gift to Abdullah of the other 78% of the East bank of the Jordan as well. Alas, the reckless self serving actions taken to preserve Ben Gurion’s hold on power (which was never under any threat, though this fact may well have been hidden from him), as enacted by the dedicated execution of Rabin, was a devastation from which Israel has never recovered. Furthermore, Ben Gurion continued to play the victim to this faux betrayal by the Irgun in the coming years, even though it seems quite impossible that the truth was never known to him.
    /2

  18. (1 of 2)
    @Edgar
    @Sebastien
    Begin came to accept the explanation that Ben Gurion had been misled by his political rival on the Left, the villain Israel Galili, and not for the first time, as he had also helped create the chaos and counter claims related to the King David Hotel bombing as well. Despite this explanation, however, Ben Gurion had previously demonstrated a willingness to act against his fellow Jews as he was seen to do during the Season when he actively hunted the Irgun in support of the British.

    Furthermore, whereas Begin had refused to betray the state by prosecuting a civil war among the Jews in the midst of an Arab invasion to preserve his political position, Ben Gurion had no such hesitation conducting such a betrayal for exactly this reason, regardless of the mischief that may have been put in place by Galili.

    Additionally, the crime that Ben Gurion committed against the survivors of the camps, the Irgun, and Begin was only part of the tolled tragedy resulting from the betrayal of Begin and those aboard the Altalena.

    It should be noted from recent revelations that the French had been keenly interested in exploring the potential of exploiting a quite support of the Jewish State to offset British power in the Middle East, to limit the harms that Britain could affect towards the French holdings in the region, while also providing a bit of payback for the humiliation dealt to them by the British in the Syrian crisis in ’45-6. Moreover, with Jerusalem being named a neutral city, France was looking for a regional proxy with the means and temperament to protect the French consul in Jerusalem along with the Christian holy sites, as well as other French cultural institutions in the area.

    The French, and all of Europe, were well aware of the notoriety of the severe ignominy with which the Irgun in their long contest came to deal out against their British overlords, while the Haganah performed a significantly less confrontational role(quite an understatement really). This distinction between the reputation of the two Jewish organizations was among the leading factors which led the French to approach the Irgun rather than the Haganah with the offer of a massive arms shipment, despite the fact that the French had had a long standing prior relationship in dealing with the Haganah and the Jewish Agency. Operational secrecy, however, with regards to the arms shipment was paramount to the French designs of indirectly undermining British power in the Middle East without their knowledge, sort of a policy of revenge served quite cold. The desires of such limited knowledge of the aid lent to the Jews actually lead history to be quite ignorant of the role the French came to play in aiding Israel even while they advised them on how to navigate towards their intended goals while dealing with the British, Americans and Russian in the UN (as revealed in recently unveiled French secret govt documents).
    /1

  19. This is Why Israel Needs Netanyahu

    Walter Bingham Arutz Sheva radio

    Also, I didn’t know about the corrupt Mukhtar protocols which need to be abolished.

  20. @SEBASTIEN-

    If Ben G met with Katz as you describe it was to cover his tucchas from tom still continuing opprobrium Inner Israel circles were thenextremely small.so such a meeting is very likely.

    The orders are still extant, documented and clear. Both Jewish Virtual Library and WIKI give identical accounts. Dan Even was in charge overall. But Rabin was the commander who ordered the massacre. Several soldiers and airmen refused to kill Jews. and ALL were “disciplined later.

    Gen Gurion’s demands were swingeing. and the Irgun was given 10 minutes only to decide on an answer. Deliberately an assault on the IZL .and typical Jewish treachery of those times. It still goes on today but in a more “cultured” manner. Like Mandelblit’s Cabal conspiracy against the P.M.

    Ben Gurion essentially double crossed Begin and the IZL. The Altalena was Bombarded with Heavy guns, and machine gun fire. Also from Corvettes at sea.

    It is also recorded…in Ben Gurion’s diary, that Begin was one of the delegation who visited BG at Sde Boker in 1967 to ask him to return as PM during the crisis. He wrote “If I had known Begin long ago, the history of Israel would have been changed.”…or words to that effect.

    I believe that until then, he never referred to Begin by name…always “that man”…A well known fact. He was obsessive in his hatred of Begin.