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April 16, 2020 | 9,226 Comments »

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  2. @SEBASTIEN-

    Why do I need to “specify reports” they emit as regularly as rain. We see them ALL the time. And matching their bloviating nonsense is the total indifference in which they are received by the presumed recipient.

    All they want to do is get their names in the news….with a photo if
    possible……

  5. @Ed You didn’t specify reports. You said, “I want to see immediate Christian denunciation of antisemitism.” I grant you, with hindsight, it could be seen as faulting the main legacy media for not reporting it, but it sounded like you were saying there were no public condemnations of antisemitism by Christians condemning this interpretation. I had no idea that the Poway shooter was motivated by Christianity until I read some of these articles by Christians condemning antisemitic interpretations of antisemitic Christian passages. As you can see, there has been some reportage, but unless the motivation for these attacks has its roots in Christianity, why would they? Most of the violent attackers of Jews are motivated by Palestinianism or Black supremacy.

  6. SEB,

    I just had a look at the link, and to me it seems “half in half.”, using cricket as a stage prop. Trueman’s maternal grandmother was Jewish, which he found, only later on.
    Percy Fender definitely was not.

    And “O’Lynn(sky) I never heard of him and don’t believe it.. He’d have had to credibly invent friends, brothers, sisters, parents, dates of birth etc.etc. relatives and a complete fictitious background which would stand checking by newshawks when they wrote about his background as they did with all well known cricketers as in other sports.

  7. @SEBASTIEN-

    You give numerous instances where Christians denounce Anti-Semitism, but they seem to be single efforts. My post centred on the FACT that at least in REPORTS (maybe only Jewish reports??) one only reads thatthe “incident’ was denounced by JEWISH Leaders.

    That is should bem, is already a “given” and raises no waves. So what I said still goes.

    Re your link about “cricket”, I see Herzl’s name there, so is this one of your spoofs. I was serious in my enquiry….STILL AM. I have something to show relating to my query, and Anti-Semitism may have been at the root of it.

  8. @Edgar

    Netanyahu denies Likud claim he’s backed away from two-state solution
    Confusion as Likud and the PM issue contradictory statements; PMO warns against relinquishing territory amid current dangers

    By TOI STAFF
    9 March 2015, 2:12 am

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-denies-likud-claim-hes-backed-away-from-two-state-solution/

    Everybody on the Right is calling everybody else a liar, have you noticed?

    Star Trek Liar Paradox

    53 seconds

    https://youtu.be/BFy4zQlWECc

    Dramatization of:

    “In philosophy and logic, the classical liar paradox or liar’s paradox or antinomy of the liar is the statement of a liar that they are lying: for instance, declaring that “I am lying”. If the liar is indeed lying, then the liar is telling the truth, which means the liar just lied. In “this sentence is a lie” the paradox is strengthened in order to make it amenable to more rigorous logical analysis. It is still generally called the “liar paradox” although abstraction is made precisely from the liar making the statement. Trying to assign to this statement, the strengthened liar, a classical binary truth value leads to a contradiction.

    If “this sentence is false” is true, then it is false, but the sentence states that it is false, and if it is false, then it must be true, and so on.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liar_paradox

  10. @Edgar

    French Philosopher [Catholic] Jacques Maritain Speaks Out Against Anti-Semitism Over WNYC

    https://www.wnyc.org/story/french-philosopher-and-writer-jacques-maritain-speaks-out-against-anti-semitism-over-wnyc/

    —

    Mike Huckabee: Sin of anti-Semitism must be condemned and fought by people of all faiths Jan 17, 2020

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mike-huckabee-sin-of-anti-semitism-must-be-condemned-and-fought-by-people-of-all-faiths
    —

    To the Students for Justice in Palestine, a Letter From an Angry Black Woman
    ‘You do not have the right to invoke my people’s struggle for your shoddy purposes’
    BY
    CHLOE VALDARY
    JULY 28, 2014

    Chloe Valdary is an ardent African-American Christian Zionist

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/students-justice-palestine

  11. @Edgar

    Why Christians should audit their words, worship and practices for anti-Semitism
    Christians can faithfully proclaim our faith as rooted in the witness of biblical Israel without using Jews and Judaism as foils for our own purposes. One place to start is by doing an audit for anti-Semitism. January 27, 2020
    By Laura Everett, Dan Joslyn-Siemiatkoski

    https://religionnews.com/2020/01/27/why-christians-should-audit-their-words-worship-and-practices-for-anti-semitism/

    —

    Why Christians Must Stand Against Anti-Semitism
    FEBRUARY 22, 2017 | JOE CARTER

    https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/why-christians-must-stand-against-anti-semitism/
    ===

    Christians can’t claim to love Jesus and hate Jewshttps://www.kentucky.com › opinion › article248337520
    Jan 7, 2021 — But for someone to call himself by the name of Christ and hate Jews is uniquely repugnant. It’s a sin against the Lord himself.

    —

    Christian leaders stand up against antisemitism at rally
    By Sergio Carmona
    South Florida Sun-Sentinel
    •
    Jun 04, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/florida-jewish-journal/miami/fl-jj-miami-beach-interfaith-anti-semitism-20210604-dwtgz6j6cbdrhch6kmk6vg527a-story.html
    —

    To Dismantle White Supremacy, Christians Must Confront …https://christiansforsocialaction.org › Resources
    To Dismantle White Supremacy, Christians Must Confront Antisemitism. 26 July 2021; By Elizabeth Moraff. A rabbi in Boston was stabbed on a synagogue’s steps …

    —

    THE ROOTS OF ANTI-JUDAISM IN THE CHRISTIAN ENVIRONMENT

    JOHN PAUL II AND ANTI-SEMITISM, A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE

    Jean Stern

    https://www.vatican.va/jubilee_2000/magazine/documents/ju_mag_01111997_p-42a_en.html

  14. On another topic entirely mundane from every pore…. Do or have any of you played cricket or know a lot about it?? Does anyone know the ultra importance of a bowler achieving a Hat Trick.

    In over 2000 Test Matches since 1879, there have been only 46 up to and including the 2021 season.

    Wilfred Rhodes the great Yorkshire and England all rounder, and pre eminent left arm spin bowler, in over 30 years playing Tests and County matches, and with 240.000+ balls bowled, over 4200 wickets taken, never achieved a hat trick.

    He made other records which will never be broken.

  15. Hi, Peloni

    The entire McCain syndicate was removed from power in this primary election.

    This is very encouraging. Here in Oregon too, we are working to overthrow this beast a precinct at a time. It’s challenging here — we were the first state to adopt universal mail-in voting — but we are quite energized.

  16. Another dore point with me , a VERY sore point.

    I am past being sick and tired as seeing reports of “JEWISH leaders denounce acts of Anti-Semitism”. I want to see immediate CHRISTIAN denunciation of Jew-Hate,

    READER, that “bride” you mentioned had 2 “gold” teeth, 1 was brass, and the other, copper-both very loose.

  18. @Honeybee
    Thank you for sharing this.

    We knew that this would be the result of the “recount” as they are using the same Dominion machines in the recount as were used in the election which Peters is contesting. Restating this, the Dominion machines are the claimed source of the fraud, so the expected outcome was never going to change by doing the same thing over again using the same procedures and the same machines. I believe Peters currently has a lawsuit related to the “recount” demanding that a hand count be used, just FYI.

  21. Israel’s Queen of Sing-along Reveals Secret Soviet Union Missions
    Saraleh Sharon, doyenne of Israel’s community singing concerts and infamous Eurovision star, recounts being flown to Moscow in the 1980s to conduct clandestine work for Soviet Jews

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-08-03/ty-article-magazine/.premium/israels-queen-of-sing-along-reveals-her-secret-mission-in-moscow-for-the-first-time/00000182-5f09-ded6-addb-5f2fca260000

  23. Photos of Egyptian Star Mohamed Ramadan With an Israeli Woman Spark Uproar in Arab World
    Angry reactions in Egypt are asserting that the pictures constitute approval for normalization with Israel

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-08-04/ty-article/.premium/photos-of-egyptian-star-mohamed-ramadan-with-an-israeli-woman-spark-uproar-in-arab-world/00000182-6851-ddfb-a1f3-fa59c6510000

    Leaders come and go. When the people hate you, be careful to make no irrevocable committments or concessions.

  25. @Reader

    Who is supposed to be “the light onto the nations” – the Jews or the Japanese?

    Well sashimi looks like lox, and they have the same calendar: Nissan, followed of course by the months of Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi…

    early SNL “Samurei Delicatessen” starring John Belushi & Buck Henry

    https://vimeo.com/154855749

  26. Has Netanyahu’s trial been adjourned sine die or just for a few months. I know the the State’s witnesses have actually testified in Netanyahu’s favour, citing immense pressure from the and police to tell lies about him.

  27. @Sebastien

    Why on earth would he want to embarass both Bibi and his father-in-law, whose senior advisor he was…

    I was quite angry regarding Kushner’s apparent abandonment of Trump after the election theft, but it seems that his role might have been far more active than passive in this regard, according to some at least. Per Peter Navarro, Kushner was one of two main voices (he and Mnuchin) behind stopping the election investigation and was responsible for blocking the finances to support the investigation. Navarro and Jeffrey Tucker from the Brownstone Institute news site, have been quite critical of Kushner, claiming that he was the mastermind behind much of the trouble in the Trump White House, particularly in the last year with regards to Covid and the Election Steal. In fact, Navarro has recently stated that he is convinced that if it had not been for Kushner, Trump would still be in the White House. Tucker(I think it was him) asserts that Kushner was also involved in pushing Birx to manipulate Trump regarding Covid lockdowns.

    Hence, considering all of this, I am not really sure how things stand between Kushner and Trump currently.

  28. @Sebastien Zorn

    “David Friedman who along with Trump and Kushner donated to the Yesha town/settlement of Beit-El, for crying out loud, in an election year?”

    To butter up the head of the yeshiva there who happens to be the owner and the publisher of the Arutz Sheva (which, BTW, is getting impossible to read due to technical issues).

  30. @Reader

    “There are a few people on this forum who would make great Stalinists if they were born in the right place at the right time”.

    Thanks, I’ll pass. Kind of you to offer. Been there, done that. Ha Ha.

  31. Are these Jared Kushner bio leaks fake news? Why on earth would he want to embarass both Bibi and his father-in-law, whose senior advisor he was, and David Friedman who along with Trump and Kushner donated to the Yesha town/settlement of Beit-El, for crying out loud, in an election year? And why is Arutz Sheva anti-Trump? They post every smear piece about Jan. 6.

  32. @Sebastien Zorn

    Well, he’s clearly an anti-Zionist Israeli Jew and the darling of the Davos crowd. Why did you bring him up…?

    It was Michael S. who brought him up as being Schwab’s right-hand man among the examples of all those (American) Jews who outnumber non-Jews as associates of any “evil goyim” in spite of being only 0.02% of the world population.

    I was merely skeptical about what he said about Harari (Michael’s other statements I found run-of-the-mill antisemitic) whose books, like I said, I didn’t get around to reading yet.

    There are a few people on this forum who would make great Stalinists if they were born in the right place at the right time.

  33. @Michael

    Inside BLM co-founder Patrisse Khan-Cullors’ million-dollar real estate buying binge

    “The self-described Marxist last month purchased a $1.4 million home on a secluded road a short drive from Malibu in Los Angeles, according to a report.

    …’Hawk Newsome, the head of Black Lives Matter Greater New York City, which is not affiliated with Khan-Cullors’ Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation, called for “an independent investigation” to find out how the global network spends its money.”

    April 2021

    https://nypost.com/2021/04/10/inside-blm-co-founder-patrisse-khan-cullors-real-estate-buying-binge/

    23 Companies That Support Black Lives Matter (BLM) in 2022

    LIST OF COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT BLM 2021
    A16z
    Bumble
    Cisco
    DocuSign
    DoorDash
    Eaze
    Etsy
    Grindr
    Grubhub
    IBM
    Matchstick Ventures
    Microsoft
    Niantic
    Peloton
    Reddit
    Shopify
    Snap
    Uber
    Techtonic
    Comcast
    Slack
    SoftBank
    PayPal

    https://builtin.com/diversity-inclusion/companies-that-support-black-lives-matter-social-justice

    —

  36. @Reader Well, he’s clearly an anti-Zionist Israeli Jew and the darling of the Davos crowd. Why did you bring him up, especially if you haven’t even read his books?

  38. @Sebastien Zorn

    I have to repeat:

    I am not going to pass judgment on his views, the state of his mind, or his connections with the “cabal” until I read his books and understand what it is he is talking about.

    I DID read the article.

    You decided to label him and dislike him – fine, it is your right.

    I have to read his books first.

  41. Abu Mazen provides his Terrorists with a Cost of Living Wage Adjustment:
    By Deborah Brand

    (AUGUST 1, 2022 / BREITBART) The Palestinian Authority marked the 20th anniversary of a deadly attack at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem by increasing its monthly payments to the terrorists responsible, a media watchdog said Sunday.

    The news comes as Israel’s security cabinet voted to withhold almost $180 million from the Palestinian Authority over its “pay-for-slay” scheme rewarding convicted terrorists and their families a monthly salary.

    The cafeteria bombing on July 31, 2002, on the university campus in Jerusalem killed 9 people and injured more than 80.

    The PA raised the salaries of the terrorists behind it, Wael Qassem, Wassim Abbasi, Alla Aldin Abbasi and Muhammed Odeh, by 14.29 percent, Palestinian Media Watch reported.

    The four will now receive an additional NIS 1000 per month, from NIS 7,000 ($2,251) per month to NIS 8,000 ($2,572). The payout has amounted to more than NIS 8 million (over $2.5 million) over the years. The PA’s policy allows for the increase in salary according to the gravity of the attack. In other words, the more Israelis die, the larger the payout.

  42. From Eli Lake:

    Source just told me AQ chief and bin laden successor, Ayman Zawahiri, has been smoked. Hope it’s true. Rest in pieces.

    I think ‘Rot in Tiny Pieces’ would be a better epitaph, but well enough. Hopefully the report holds out as accurate.

  43. @Reader But, he’s a historian not a scientist. His doctoral thesis, I think, was on military history. He’s interdisciplinary. How did he come up in your conversation since you, his defender, haven’t read his work, either? Did you notice his husband said he’s ant-“settler?”

  44. @Reader The New Yorker article was too long to quote in its entirety and you get a few free articles. I recommend reading it. I only excerpted some of the passages that indicate he is the darling of the liberal globalist elite. He does come across as a brilliant nut, something like a mad scientist. And when he intones about the coming digitalization and dehumanization of humanity, it’s not clear whether he agrees with it but they lionize him for it. Like that Bertrand Russell essay in the 50s. Though he’s strongly influenced by Buddhism but in a very strange and troubling way.

  45. @Sebastien Zorn

    Do you know that old joke which ends with “I may be crazy but I am not stupid”?

    Well, Yuval Harari may well be crazy but I doubt that he is stupid.

    I am not going to pass judgment on his views, the state of his mind, or his connections with the “cabal” until I read his books and understand what it is he is talking about.

    I know that “mad scientists” already exist who are ready, willing, and able to experiment on some very radical uses of AI, etc., so it is not his idea.

    I am going to check out the WEF website:

    https://www.weforum.org/

  46. @Michael He has a TED talk, too. He thinks corporations, nations, etc, are figments of the imagination but he really reminds me of this scene from Paddy Chayefsky’s “Network” (1976) in which Ned Beatty explains how the world is a corporation in metaphysical terms.

    https://youtu.be/35DSdw7dHjs

  49. @Reader

    …He had an upcoming speaking engagement in Kyiv, at an oligarch-funded conference…

    …A panel with Trump?” Yahav asked. He later said that he had never accepted any speaking invitations from Israeli settlers in the West Bank, adding that Harari, although not a supporter of settlements, might have been inclined to say yes.

    Harari has acquired a large audience in a short time, and—like the Silicon Valley leaders who admire his work—he can seem uncertain about what to do with his influence. Last summer, he was criticized when readers noticed that the Russian translation of “21 Lessons for the 21st Century” had been edited to make it more palatable to Vladimir Putin’s government. Harari had approved some of these edits, and had replaced a discussion of Russian misinformation about its 2014 annexation of Crimea with a passage about false statements made by President Trump….

    …President Barack Obama, speaking to CNN in 2016, compared the book to a visit he’d made to the pyramids of Giza….

    …In the car, he had been talking about current conditions in Israel; in recent years, he had said, “many, if not most, Israelis simply lost the motivation to solve the conflict, especially because Israel has managed to control it so efficiently.” Harari told me that, as a historian, he had to dispute the assumption that an occupation can’t last “for decades, for centuries”—it can, and new surveillance technologies can enable oppression “with almost no killing.” Harari saw no alternative other than “to wait for history to work its magic—a war, a catastrophe.” With a dry laugh, he said, “Israel, Hezbollah, Hamas, Iran—a couple of thousand people die, something. This can break the mental deadlock…

    …

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/02/17/yuval-noah-harari-gives-the-really-big-picture