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no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
@ Edgar G.:
Edgar, are you giving me a history lesson? I am familiar with what you said about Octavian, although you might note that Julius was indeed a “Caesar”, a name from which modern emperors (the “Kaiser” and “Czar”) were named.
My greatest interest in Third Year Latin was not academic — there were distractions, just as there are here.
This conversation began with my comment on your comment, namely,
“We have not yet, found how, why, nor when it was decided to do so, but it is plain that it was a long-term plot. The equipment has also been used in other U.S. elections at various levels, delivering dubious results when required…”
After suffering a steady barrage of fake news and lying politics, your comment was a breath of fresh air.
@ Michael S:
I stop after the first couple of lines to make a point. Julius was NOT the Emperor. There was no Emperor. Octavian, who inherited his estate, was the first Emperor, Julie’s adopted son. Octavian was the son of a one-time niece of Julius, if my memory serves. I recall reading in Seutonius that he was not a close relative.
Julius was murdered because he had assumed supreme control of governing bodies. (He had that army, don’t forget).. Rome had been governed by a Triumvirate of which he was one. Before them there were a few dictators, but they were staunch Republicans, and in those days a dictator was not a permanent role. The were appointed for specific purposes in times of danger to the Republic. .The Senate made (and interpreted) the Laws. etc.
His enemies-of which he had many- were afraid he would announce himself as king or Emperor…I think, and they were fanatical about Rome remaining a Republic..
It’s now close to 1 a.m so I’ll read the rest of your post tomorrow, P.G.
@ Edgar G.:
Hi, Edgar. The Roman analogy is this: Until Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon, Rome had a government that functioned in what functioned, at least in major forms,after the ancient (similar to “constitutional”) form of senators, tribunes, plebeans, consuls, etc. Once Caesar took over, these existed in token form only: all real power was invested into the person of the emperor. That is what will ultimately happen in the US, if Biden’s handlers are allowed to rule: The Constitution will thenceforth exist in form only; actual government will be in the hands of those trying to push Biden into office: The press, the billionaires, Deep State, information technology… The particulars of these people will not matter. What matters is that, whoever they are, they will have overturned the Constitution in the 2020 election, and will only have more power to continue doing so.
“You are speaking about free men, fearless, resilient and stalwart, who are doing what they are , right this minute, because they will NOT submit through fear or intimidation.”
We are not “free”. We are law-abiding citizens; but our turncoat politicians have emasculated even our police. We are about as “free” as the Jews in the Third Reich, corralled, by and by in their case into ghettoes and in our case into virtual house arrest. I personally will not bear arms, because the one I would have to shoot would be someone like my own son — just like those Jews would not try to escape the ghetto, because they would be endangering their families.
As for the “HUGE” expose, time will tell how much will be exposed.
@ Michael S:
I don’t think I misunderstood you. You talked about an “illegal Junta”, and that this would result in subsequent elections being conducted in an anarchical manner, and you suggested the Roman example as the pattern.
It may be slightly similar in theory, but then, Rome had several leaders each with his own armies and backing, and resulted in a series of pitched battles and seizure of parts of the client states for a while.
I think there is NO comparison. America is ONE country, with a revered Constitution, an honest Supreme Court, and a single loyal Army. The President is the Commander-in- Chief,
The opposition to President Trump, I’m certain will never be able to bully and threaten him into submission. He KNOWS that it would be the complete ruin of the country for 100 years. Your fears of this are quite groundless. You are speaking about free men, fearless, resilient and stalwart, who are doing what they are , right this minute, because they will NOT submit through fear or intimidation. They will succeed in this election, and the aftermath, after a HUGE expose, at most, will dribble away as I believe and have posted to you. The vast majority of the country is American to the core, even Democrats. With them, it is only the major movers and shakers, along with their greedy, covetous acolytes-like R-, who are blinding the average Democrat. But I’m certain, that some, even many are now believing that this election is rigged to be stolen .
There have even been polls showing this result, and there must have been a good selection of Democrats in it.
@ Edgar G.:
Edgar, I think you misunderstood me. I was not talking about some sort of vigilante insurrection. The “coup” I was referring to, is the election presently being adjudicated. People throughout the process, from Trump and Giuliani on down, have been threatened and intimidated, in an effort to cause them to accept the fraudulent election. If SCOTUS ultimately succumbs, as a result of such intimidation, the fraudulent results will be accepted and a “bloodless coup” will have succeded.
This is happening in 2020, while information technology is still at a primitive level; but if the putative ruling junta, headed by Joe Biden, succeeds, the procedures of 2020 will become the standard in all future “elections”. This will, effectively, be the end of democracy; and succeeding transfers of power will have to be conducted the “old way” of anarchy, feuds, dynastic struggles and wars.
Note again that I am not insinuating that the Republicans will incite or practice this violence. Once there is effectively no more democracy, terms like “Republican”, “Conseravtive”, etc. will become meaningless.
@ Michael S:
The US is already subject to an illegal junta.
If Trump didn’t want anyone injured or killed, he wouldn’t sow division and then conduct a premeditated coup.
@ Michael S:
I don’t believe this will happen in the US. If it began to, even the decent Democrats (and there are some) would turn against the conspirators. They must be having serious doubts already. There will, I suppose be BLM and Antifa riots but I believe, that President Trump, or the Local Governors (I’m not sure of US law) will send in the National Guard or the Army, with instructions to take strong measures, not neccessarily lethal. . It will be short and not sweet.
It may end with a few Waco style stand-offs, and I believe that they will eventually be “starved out.”
I strongly believe that Trump would not want q single person seriously injured or killed.
@ Edgar G.:
Spot on, Edgar! Thank you for standing with my President, and with the truth.
I don’t know how this will turn out. Either President Trump is rightfully allowed to take the reins of power on January 20, or the US will become subject to an illegal junta — and there will not again be a peaceful transition of power in the US until the usurpers are violently overthrown. That would take a long time (as it did in Rome, after Julius Caesar seized power), if it ever happens at all.
@ Brian Norris:
Your are asking questions whilst standing at the starting post of the horse race. The runners are already on the straight towards the Finishing Post. What has been revealed by ,(except by Democrats) valid attested-to, evidence, makes it crystal clear that it was a massive, internationally domiciled conspiracy to defeat THIS President.
The means, and equipment used, had already been in action in foreign elections where it was obvious, after the facts, that the wrong man won, and that dishonest means had been in play.
Well, they just hanged the location, to use them in this US Election. We have not yet, found how, why, nor when it was decided to do so, but it is plain that it was a long-term plot. The equipment has also been used in other U.S. elections at various levels, delivering dubious results when required..
It took THIS President, to insist on getting the crookedness rectified, and it’s all coming rapidly to a head.
Biden lost. TRUMP WON
@ Brian Norris:
Time to remove your head from the sand and face reality. Biden won.
Why with all the “Experts” surrounding Trump WHY did they not take steps before the Voting to ensure their was voting security, knowing that they were “Extremely Likely” to be “Screwed” over the Election Result? DemoRat Shenanigans regarding Voting Dishonesty have been going on since The Last Civil War, it’s nothing new???? If “THEY” win then they will ensure their is NEVER gonna be another chance for any Republican to become President!