Deterrence

Prof. Paul Eidelberg

Deterrence has two prerequisites: (1) overwhelming military power, and (2) the will to use it ruthlessly.

Israel has the power, but the leaders of Israel’s government lack the will. By the “government” we mean the political and military echelons.

Apart from obtaining crucial information, Israel’s security forces should eliminate any apprehended Arab terrorist. Even former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, when asked what should be done to terrorists, replied: “Kill them!”

Deterrence will also be improved on the streets of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv when the IDF mission in Gaza is to completely eliminate any vestige of terrorist groups, such as Hamas. The policy of “self-restraint” should be limited to children.

Arab rock-throwers should be charged with the crime of attempted murder. By being lenient with minor offenses, the government only encourages major offenses. It was by applying this commonsense teaching that former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani drastically curtailed crime in that multi-ethnic city. Arabs need to know that they will no longer be mollycoddled, indeed, that the standards of civilized behavior will be applied to them as to any other citizen of Israel. To do otherwise is tantamount to racism!

Therefore, any Arab citizen of Israel who aids or abets Arab terror attacks should be stripped of his citizenship and of all benefits accruing to Israeli citizens.

Arab students in Israeli colleges and universities who engage in demonstrations in support of any terrorist organization, or who call for Israel’s destruction, will forfeit his student status and emoluments and be subject to criminal prosecution.

It should be known to Arab citizens of Israel that any Arab that perpetrates or aids a terrorist attack against any citizen of Israel, whether the latter is Jewish or non-Jewish, will forfeit his or her home. And if that home was used as a haven for any terrorist, it will be destroyed.

Further, if the Palestinian Authority encourages Arabs to commit acts of terror against the State of Israel or any of its Jewish or non-Jewish citizens, it will forfeit any and all tax and other privileges it enjoys under Israel law. ?

 

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  1. @ yamit82:

    “Israel should allow all Hamas operatives to move to Y&S. Call up 20-30,000 reservists ring every palis town and village with tanks put economic screw to them and we know how then let them and Fatah fight to the death. Hamas should win and then we can finish em off without any serious outcry or opposition from the rest of the world….”

    “If Hamas Deposes Fatah in Y&S hard to see anybody even Obama and the EU pressing us to make peace with them.”

    That’s because it’s only 2014. It’s always “hard to see” beyond a narrowly conceived point in time.

    In 1974, it was “hard to see” anybody pressing Israel to ‘make peace’ w/ the PLO. It was even illegal to meet w/ them.

    In 2004, it was “hard to see” anybody pressing Israel to even speak w/ Hamas — let alone, allow Hamas to rule Gaza.

    Hard for that frog in the pot to see that he’s getting cooked, not only because it’s a gradual process, but also because the warm water is making him DROWSY.

  2. @ yamit82:

    “You’re playing chess — but perhaps the game in play is actually poker. How many things that would’ve been utterly & horrendously inconceivable 15 yrs ago are quite acceptable today? Life simply ran up against the Law of Unintended Consequences.

    Take good care what you pray for. You might get it.”

    “I certainly hope so…”

    In 2008, you prayed for Obama to become president.

    HowzZATworkinoutforya?

    Law of Unintended Consequences.

    “Wanna hear what I pray for re: Yourself???”

    Suit yourself; doesn’t much matter.

    “Actually your comment is pure dweller; wordy

    Not nearly as wordy as the comment to which it responded

    — nor as wordy as your response TO it.

    (Are the grapes a little sour for you, bubbele?)

    “…but actually saying nothing relevant to my comment..

    It was QUITE relevant if you weren’t so shallow as to be oblivious to its implications.

    “I think you post comments to see your name in print….”

    To see what ‘name’ in print? — “dweller”? LMSS.

    “At least post intelligently.”

    “Intelligently” by whose standard — yours?

    “After you cut away all the words you use for camouflage…”

    “All the words”? — what words would those be?

    ‘Camouflage’ for what? Anonymity has no need for camouflage.

    “… cupboard looks pretty bare.”

    If it looks like envy, and it smells like envy, and it sounds like envy

    — then guess what? it’s envy.

  3. ArnoldHarris Said:

    Interstate westward out of Amarillo, not far from the New Mexico state line

    I know this area very well. It is site of the Folsom point and the extinct volcano Capuchin with it’s bald peak. Lincoln county a place of violence in the 19th century and the home of Billy the Kid and the much beleaguered Crypto Jews.

    ArnoldHarris Said:

    ideas about Texas by watching movies such as “No Country For Old Men”.

    Unfortunately more truth then fiction. The border has always been a dangerous place. I recommend you watch the Fox TV series ” The Bridge” about El Paso/Juarez.

  4. bernard ross Said:

    looks like it begun at least a couple of years ago
    all I can keep saying is “Bravo, encore!”
    Lets hope they deep it up and kill each other off for the worlds sake.

    They must be denied Nukes at any cost or they can take us all down with them….

  5. yamit82 Said:

    I’ve been……ranting for years on this site?

    You are too modest 😛

    yamit82 Said:

    Muslim playoffs about to begin in Ernest. Can’t wait for

    the SUPERBOWL!!!!!!

    yamit82 Said:

    In ten, twenty, thirty years the world of Islam will begin to consume itself in madness.

    looks like it begun at least a couple of years ago
    all I can keep saying is “Bravo, encore!”
    Lets hope they deep it up and kill each other off for the worlds sake.

    NEWT GINGRICH, POLITICO

    The underlying driving force behind this desperate desire to stop unpleasant questions is the elite’s fear that an honest discussion of radical Islamism will spin out of control. They fear if Americans fully understood how serious radical Islamists are, they would demand a more confrontational strategy.

    Confrontational???? LOL, if they understood they would be trotting out the WMD in all its forms.
    there are only 2 scenarios where the world can survivee the muslims:
    Liquidation or Transformation
    the question is who does what?

  6. ArnoldHarris Said:

    Interstate westward out of Amarillo, not far from the New Mexico state line,

    I know this area very well, it is where the Folsom points were found part of the old Comancheria. There you can find the extinct volcano Capuchen with it’s bald peak. Lincoln county was violent place in the 19th century, the home of Billy the Kid and the much beleaguered Crypto Jews.

    ArnoldHarris Said:

    ideas about Texas by watching movies such as “No Country For Old Men”.

    Not so far from the truth, unfortunately the drug trade has reeked havoc on the border. I recommend that you was the Fox TV series ” The Bridge”. It concerns the drug trade, US/ Mex govt. involvement, and the Santa Muerte cult in El Paso/Juarez.

  7. @ bernard ross:

    Muslim playoffs about to begin in Ernest. Can’t wait for

    the SUPERBOWL!!!!!! https://www.israpundit.org/archives/63593712

    At the end of the novel, Uris has an exceptional Arab, an archeologist, admit: Hate is our overpowering legacy and we have regenerated ourselves by hatred from generation to generation, century to century. The return of the Jews unleashed that hatred, exploding it wildly, aimlessly, into a massive force of self-destruction. In ten, twenty, thirty years the world of Islam will begin to consume itself in madness.

    We cannot live with ourselves; we never have. We cannot live with or accommodate the outside world; we never have. We are incapable of change.”From Leon Uris “The Haj”

  8. @ yamit82:

    These were some very pissed off Jews!

    There should be no need therefore to try and reinvent the wheel for ‘today’s Jews’.
    Just follow the recipe…
    😀

  9. @ bernard ross:
    @ ArnoldHarris:

    In the year 614 the Jews of Israel assembled an army under a leader known only by the code name “Nehemya.”… They immediately contacted the Persian army of Chosroes II who was involved in the last Byzantine-Persian War. The Jewish army and the Persians besieged and liberated Jerusalem from the Byzantines. In gratitude, the Persians handed the city over to the Jewish army. Yes, once again, Jerusalem became the capital of a Jewish nation.

    During the Middle Ages the Vatican went out of its way to give the impression that the Jews had been banished from the Land of Israel and would not return until the second coming of their messiah. The fact that there was a Jewish nation with a Jewish Jerusalem as its capital from the year 614 until the year 629, proved somewhat of an embarrassment to the Church, so they simply did a tried and proven method: they rewrote the history books. The Christians built the Church of Mary on the Temple Mount. The Persians destroyed this church in 614, quite possibly with the help of the Jewish troops who took part in the liberation of Jerusalem from the Byzantines. After all, the Temple Mount meant little to the Persians. What reason would they have for destroying the church there unless it was as a favor to their Jewish allies?

    Estimates were that the Jews slaughtered over a hundred thousand Christians and burnt every Church to the ground.

    These were some very pissed off Jews!

  10. dweller Said:

    Take good care what you pray for.

    — You might get it.

    I certainly hope so…

    Wanna hear what I pray for re: Yourself???

    Actually your comment is pure dweller; wordy but actually saying nothing relevant to my comment.. Lot’s of Blah Blah saying

    essentially ZIP!!!!

    I think you post comments to see your name in print….

    At least post intelligently.

    Some here think you can. I don’t.!

    After you cut away all the words you use for camouflage, cupboard looks pretty bare.

  11. @ yamit82:

    “If Hamas Deposes Fatah in Y&S hard to see anybody even Obama and the EU pressing us to make peace with them.”

    Yes; hard to see, for sure.

    Perfectly rational.

    But maybe that’s its weakness.

    You’re playing chess — but perhaps the game in play is actually poker.

    How many things that would’ve been utterly & horrendously inconceivable 15 yrs ago are quite acceptable today?

    Life simply ran up against the Law of Unintended Consequences.

    Take good care what you pray for.

    — You might get it.

  12. @ honeybee:
    Thanks for the boost, HB. I did my three years of military service — one year reserves, two years active duty — in 1952-1955, which for me was late in the Korean War and two years after the armistice.

    I don’t think I accomplished anything for Uncle Sam, other than to receive orders and carry them out. That’s about all any army wants from their soldiers. I was put on active duty status shortly before the war closed down, serving in a variety of stateside training units. That was the first of a series of wars we got into which were ended with something other than victory. I suppose newly-inaugurated President Dwight D Eisenhower made the right decision to negotiate and end to the fighting before too many more Americans lost their lives in endless struggle against the truly-tough Chinese and North Korean armies.

    My own father, Max Harris, was in the US National Army in 1917-1919, and went to France with General “Blackjack” Pershing’s American Expeditionary force. Two of my older cousins were in World War 2, on in the US Marine Corps in their island-hopping campaigns across the Pacific, and the other cousin was a crewman in the twin-engine C-47 transports that flew supplies from India into China crossing the Himalaya Mountains. Now that was dangerous duty. Aircraft that came down in those mountains meant a crash landing, which naturally meant that the flight crews were gone forever.

    I hope your part of Texas gets treated kindly by the weather. I’ve driven across much of Texas on numerous transcontinental trips to the southwest, and I liked most of what I saw. There’s a particularly nice spot along the Interstate westward out of Amarillo, not far from the New Mexico state line, when the first big mesas make their appearance in distance when looking straight southward. Too many folks who don’t live there get stereotypical ideas about Texas by watching movies such as “No Country For Old Men”.

    Arnold Harris
    Mount Horeb WI

  13. What Israel needs — and has not had since the days and acts of Lehi against the British and the Arabs — is the most vicious gang of Jewish terrorists who ever have walked this Earth.

    Israel is engaged in a protracted conflict which, considering the ways of peace and war in the MIddle East, probably shall never end. Other than in a few notably historic incidents in this endless war, the Jews have acted like raging sheep, and their enemies have acted like the killers of the night. But our side will continue to lose unless and until the Jews of Israel make the Arabs and the international Jew-haters their victims. We should stop the useless and unachievable efforts to win hearts and minds through calculated weakness. I want the Jewish nation to be feared. Then it will be the lot of all these others to play the role of the raging sheep and practitioners of the Stockholm syndrome. If you really want respect, that’s the only way you can achieve it.

    Isn’t this really a perverse world in which we enjoy or drag out our lives? You’re damned right it is, and I wouldn’t want it any other way. Because no nation ever achieved control over its own territory without first killing, driving our or absorbing whoever lived there beforehand. Without aggression, there is no land, and without land, there is no nation.

    I truly hope that my comments don’t sound like those of any other Jew any of you ever have come in contact with. Because I sure as hell would hate being thought of as a plagiarist or someone who vomits up someone else’s rehash.

    Arnold Harris
    Mount Horeb WI

  14. @ yamit82:
    I was talking about the internationals wrt weapons developments and being able to use them.
    as for hamas fatah I agree. I bet that the setting off of hamas against fatah is often used when abbas gets too uppity.
    I think they have decided that a permanent settlement good for Israelis is not in the cards so they keep juggling hamas and fata back and forh and soiving the focus of attention. first, the talks, then the gaza war, now the un, then the talks agian
    maybe they have determined that the status quo for the time being is the best and its all a peanut shell game where the peanut is the “peace settlement”. 😛
    in a way it makes sense as time seems to be on Israel side
    I suspect that the war crime narrative is losing steam with each war even though their casualties are increasing.
    if the euros lose their money in “palestine” again it will be even harder to push for euro involvement. Islamic atrocities probably help draw more attention to Israel as facing a sick culture and troubles from muslims in europe probably heighten that view.
    who knows with the emergence of the anti immigration crowd in eu we may be seeing a swing in the pendulum. It might be that stalling at this time is the best bet along with pretending to go along with it all. I am for declaring the jews rights but the deck is so stacked with deception against the jews that deception is probably the best weapon to hit back with. Maybe they are doing the right thing for this time. Holding back the nutters and growing in strength.
    One thing is that the enemy has not improved their position in years in spite of all the noise..
    Perhaps your plan is waiting on the back burner.

  15. @ bernard ross:

    Think about it. If Hamas Deposes Fatah in Y&S hard to see anybody even Obama and the EU pressing us to make peace with them.

    We don’t need their support only their passivity with zero expectations. The IDF will take care of Hamas. We would starve them out by draining the swamp. Cut them off from the Israeli economy totally massive presence to defend the settlements and the lines currently drawn. Costly but workable.

    With each major attack against us we take more land back .

  16. @ yamit82:
    form our conversation on the other thread I must say that these developments only work if there are internationals on our side, according to your principle of “FEAR” of isolation and sanctions.

  17. @ bernard ross:

    I suggested yesterday on another thread that Israel should allow all Hamas operatives to move to Y&S. Call up 20-30,000 reservists ring every palis town and village with tanks put economic screw to them and we know how then let them and Fatah fight to the death.

    Hamas should win and then we can finish em off without any serious outcry or opposition from the rest of the world….

    It’s only the fiction of a moderate PA run by Fatah that is the major political obstacle for removing or killing the Palis in the territories.

    Israel should encourage a Hamas attempt to take control of Y&S.

  18. @ bernard ross:

    Israel finds itself in midst of Cypriot conflict

    Read also:

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    No hegemonic peace in Cyprus
    Giving Turkey a dose of its own medicine?

    WATCH: IAI carries out successful trial of Barak 8 air and missile defense system

    Barak-8 is being jointly developed by India’s Defense Research and Development Organization.

    Israel, India successfully test advanced missile system
    New Delhi defense official says development marks ‘significant milestone’ in relations