Peloni: Are we now facing the situation of too-big-to-prosecute in US is now the standard of justice in the land of the Free and home of the Brave? Or is Sundance mistaken in his conviction that the leadership of the Russiagate scandal will simply walk free amid the speculation that they might have had a reason to commit the crimes they committed while persecuting the legitimately elected leader of the US, Pres. Trump? While I once held this view myself, I am less convinced that Sundance has his finger on the pulse of the situation in this instance. What do others think?
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First things first. It might not be the popular thing to accept, but it is increasingly clear there is no way to get to any form of accountability or legal exposure for Russiagate or the manufacturing of the Trump-Russia collusion narrative, anywhere near former President Barack Obama. The concentric circles of plausible deniability are just too extensive.
Essentially, despite the evidence of the FBI participating in a manufactured investigation predicted on false pretenses, all now supported with hindsight evidence, the fact that key IC officials, namely CIA Director John Brennan, FBI Director James Comey and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, presented the illusion of credible concern, inoculates President Obama from scrutiny.
As the Supreme Court noted, the President is protected from liability for “official acts” of his office. Yes, we all know these officials knew it was a ruse; however, in 2016 the CIA and FBI were presenting the information to Obama and saying the investigative value was potentially plausible. As such, Obama would have been within his official duty to tell the IC officials to chase down the information (continue investigating it).
Then, the January 5th, 2017, meeting documented by the infamous “by the book” Susan Rice memo, further inoculates President Obama for telling the IC officials to follow careful procedures as they continued investigating whether or not the Trump-Russia collusion was a factual concern. All of these elements lead to various tentacles of plausible deniability. No court is going to find criminal action within the decision-making, regardless of how ridiculous it may look in granular hindsight.
Are all the characters guilty of perpetrating a fraud for the expressed intent of a political narrative, yes. Are they criminally liable for it, extremely unlikely.
The only criminal liability that appears visible is in the Mueller probe that came along in May 2017 to coverup the prior conduct.
The Mueller/Weissmann special counsel perpetrated fraud in legal filings, lied to the FISA court, and manipulated evidence.
As a result, we must ask ourselves what is the value in this ongoing reveal of information?
Because they were willing participants in the overall operation, the MSM media will never admit their role or culpability in the ruse. That leaves an echo-chamber of alternate media combing through the granular releases and discovering the trail of evidence represented within the declassification.
Put all that alternative media together and you impact 25 to 40% of the public. The rest don’t really care, and/or dislike President Trump too much to really care that he was targeted by the Intelligence Community. This is not ‘doomerism’, this is reality when you pull back from the ‘tick-tock’ grifting clickbait.
Worse still, it is clear the ‘tick-tock’ controlled release of information is in full swing again. When you hear John Solomon saying, “we are working to release more information,” it’s worth asking yourself who exactly is this “we” that Solomon is speaking of.
I’ve come to the conclusion the “we” consists of those within the clickbait industry who seek to make a living from the endless discussion. Solomon is not a reporter, he’s a participant.
Here’s another example, courtesy of Sean Hannity and Senator Lindsey Graham.
I agree with Raphael, but since Nixon, no one in the federal government has faced any fines or jail time unless the party in power wanted them removed in order to keep their seats. To add to Raphael’s list, I would like to see government officials shot for their crimes, not just banished from office.
Mark my words — NO ONE will pay any fines nor receive any jail time for what they did to President Trump. But, maybe, just maybe God will put them on his holy rotisserie and roast them for a thousand years for their sins.
It is now clear that so many people, at so many levels, were involved in the effort to subvert the American government, that prosecuting all of them would be a near impossibility. Therefore, the situation should be addressed, simultaneously, on three fronts. First, those at the highest levels, who are implicated, should be indicted and tried for sedition and conspiracy. No mercy or clemency should be shown. Second, The Democratic party should be adjudicated to be a criminal enterprise, and shut down once and for all. Third, Constitutional amendments should be enacted on an accelerated basis, to guarantee that no party or person(s) could again threaten to usurp the rightful power of the American people. This would include re-doing the electoral system to guarantee free and fair elections, as well as limiting the power of the judicial system to rule in a partisan fashion.
In other words, broad sweeping measures must be taken, quickly, or the country will again be at major risk, the next time the political pendulum swings to the left. Just as the founding of our country was a non-partisan effort, driven by men of high moral principles, this badly needed re-calibration must similarly be conducted by men and women whose dedication to truth, honesty, high moral principles, and to America is unquestioned. The commencement of a “national correction campaign” will be largely dependent on the outcome of the mid-term elections. If victory is granted, the process must start immediately.
@Peloni I don’t think Obama will ever do time but if the Republicans get a 2/3 majority in the House, there is no reason to assume he won’t be impeached the way Trump was, twice. There is precedent for impeaching a government official no longer in office.
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I question if Obama will ever do time, but those involved in the forming the Russiagate scandal are much broader than just Obama. In fact, I find it difficult to accept that Obama was involved in the initial events of the Russiagate scandal, specifically because of the report of Brennan breaking the news to him in January 2017, months after the conspiracy had been well underway. Wide nets will require Obama being questioned, and any obfuscation could also be used to charge him for obstruction, but the truth is that the real threat is not from an unhinged political wing of the govt, but from the unhinged intelligence wing which seems to have hatched this scandal without Obama’s inclusion.