Netanyahu offers Zionist Union nine gov’t ministries

T. Belman. The Zionist Union is not a Zionist party and shouldn’t be brought into the coalition.

Susie Dym points out:

Warning: The Herzog-Livni party has-in its number 4 position – an anarchist J-Street supporter who believes that the Jewish content of Israel’s national anthem is “racist”.

The Herzog-Livni party’s faction chairman is Merav Michaeli. Michaeli is opposed to service in her own country’s army – the Israel Defense Forces. She is also against marriage (seriously!)

Another MK in the Herzog-Livni party, Zuher Bahalul, has explained that the party, despite its trendy name (“Zionist camp”) is not really a Zionist party:

MK Bahlul also gave anti-Israel activists a big present by explaining to a New Israel Fund audience that Israeli society is afflicted by “apartheid, racism and fascism” (in the Hebrew-language New Israel Fund site

But wait! Didn’t Netanyahu make a crystal clear campaign promise to the voting public that he would say NO to Herzog-Livni-Left being included in his government? Yes, he did.

Unity gov’t talks continue apace, as sources close to the prime minister say he’s made a very generous offer to opposition leader Herzog.

By Shimon Cohen, INN

Is a deal imminent? Herzog and Netanyahu

Intensive negotiations between Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and opposition leader Yitzhak Herzog are continuing apace, following reports yesterday that a unity government deal was “closer than ever.”

Now, the price of including Herzog’s 24-seat Zionist Union party into the Likud-led coalition is becoming clearer.

Sources close to the prime minister say Herzog has been offered no less than nine ministries in return for bringing his left-wing party into the government, according to Channel 10. That will likely be in addition to an unspecified number of Knesset Committee chairmanships and deputy ministries.

At this point, it is unclear whether Netanyahu is preparing to jettison the religious-nationalist Jewish Home party (which holds eight seats in the current narrow wafer-thin coalition of 61), or if he is hoping to somehow keep both parties within his government.

Jewish Home party Naftali Bennett has warned that if the prime minister gives too much to the Zionist Union his party could bolt the coalition in protest. In particular, he described the highly-coveted Justice Ministry – currently held by Jewish Home’s Ayelet Shaked – as a “red line.”

Other MKs in both the Jewish Home and Zionist Union alike have voiced their opposition to any such unity government.

Sources within Herzog’s Labor Party – which is the senior faction within the Zionist Union – say they are skeptical that the deal will go through at all, however. While both Netanyahu and Herzog are keen, the sources noted that the ideological differences between the leftist Zionist Union and right-wing Likud parties – let alone Jewish Home – would simply be too much for either party’s rank and file to stomach, and voiced their confidence such a deal would ultimately be torpedoed by one party or both

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  1. Herzog conditions for joining the coalition which put up online and then taken down immediately.

    Herzog associates said the post was accidentally put up by an employee without his knowledge, according to Haaretz.

    The post laid out six demands by the Zionist Union: lowering the cost of living, involvement in decision-making regarding a controversial natural gas project, authority to combat international boycott efforts, protections for the High Court of Justice, overturning racist laws, and launching negotiations with countries in the region and implementation of Herzog’s plan to separate from the Palestinians while postponing a two-state solution.


    Hopefully they will just not get anywhere. The longer it drags out the less likely it will happen.

  2. Netanyahu’s American Foreign Policy

    Prof. Paul Eidelberg

    Netanyahu’s American Foreign Policy Prof. Paul Eidelbe
    Israelis need to face the awful truth: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s foreign policy is spiritually barren, intellectually stagnant, and politically defeatist — hence very, very American!

    While we may credit him for having contributed to Israel’s economic progress, thoughtful Jewish citizens of this country must surely feel degraded by Netanyahu’s feckless and demonstrably disastrous policy of “territory for peace.”

    Living in the most powerful nation in the Middle East, the citizens who have suffered in blood and treasure from Netanyahu’s perpetuation of that policy must be disgusted with his appeasement of a paltry consortium of Muslim Arab gangs called the “Palestine Authority,” whose villainy requires no illustration.

    Netanyahu’s consorting with that vile and paltry enemy almost suggests that he does not want to sully the names of his six predecessors by standing upright with Jewish pride, which would make his Oslovian predecessors appear craven by comparison. Indeed, standing tall would expose their lowly or Lilliputian character.

    Such an exposé might shake the 1948 foundations of Israel’s Government. The poorly designed structure of the State would become obvious, and this would reveal the political narrowness and philosophical mediocrity of those who founded this State – the source of Israel’s present malaise and lack of national vision.

    Clearly, the Government’s craven and ignominious fixation on peace has only resulted in (1) the murder and wounding of thousands of Jews; (2) the loss of sacred and strategic Jewish land, (3) the expulsion of thousands of Jews from their homes; (4) the spiraling Jew-hatred around the world, and (5) the emergence in Israel of an apathetic nation which, despite its high GDP and hi-tech reputation, suffers incessant terrorist attacks, internal political fragmentation and corruption, along with a mind-numbing satisfaction of living in a democratic society devoid of any lofty sense of national purpose. In this society the sports arena and shopping center have taken the place of a religion that exalts the intellect. Small wonder that most Israelis are content with their lot beguiled by the indiscriminate principle of one adult-one vote, and numbed by no thought of the future.

    Never mind the abysmal fact that Israel’s otherwise mellifluous Prime Minster does not articulate any lofty sense of national pride and vision, none clearly and conceptually related to the teachings of the prophets and sages of Israel. But this is the inevitable consequence of his delusion of making peace with a relentless, bellicose enemy – a Muslim-Arab enemy enslaved in religion spawned by a barbaric war lord, Mohammad.

    As early as 1995, when he first became Israel’s Prime Minister, Netanyahu has mendaciously minimized or turned a blind eye to the palpable fact affirmed by scholars and statesmen, that Israel, more than any Western nation, is involved in a clash of civilizations with Islam, a clash which transcends politics and diplomacy. Israel is moreover confronted by an enemy whose reputed monotheism actually rejects the ethical and intellectual monotheism of the Bible of Israel. In fact, Muslim theologians regard the Genesis concept of man’s creation in the image of God as blasphemy! This negation highlights the mentality of Muhammad’s disciples, of whom Netanyahu, like other democratic leaders lack the courage and wisdom to challenge on intellectual grounds.

    Moreover, Netanyahu draws nothing of significance for policy making from the recognized fact that Mohammad is the role-model of the leaders of the Palestinian Authority with whom he mysteriously negotiates in the impossible Middle East “Peace Process.” In other words, Netanyahu stubbornly refuses to draw any practical policy conclusions from the fact that the leaders of the PA, as disciples of Muhammad, are professional liars culturally and psychologically addicted to war-making, not peace-making.

    Netanyahu is therefore deceiving not only the apathetic people of Israel, but also the witless sheeple of United States, whose Congress continues to bank role the Palestinian Authority, thereby promoting Arab terrorism and the murder of more Jews!

  3. Minister: Joining with Labor will destroy Likud’s future
    Likud’s Elkin warns a unity government would be an ‘historic mistake,’ as Zionist Union would pull coalition leftward to justify itself.

    “In recent days there has been an animated conversation in the Labor party (of Zionist Union) on whether to join our government or not due to the desperate efforts of (Zionist Union chair Yitzhak) ‘Buji’ Herzog to convince his party members to join the government at almost any cost,” said Elkin.

    Regarding that cost, Herzog on Thursday revealed his conditions for joining a unity government, even as his party MKs rejected the prospect of uniting with Likud.

    Elkin said Likud members must hold a serious talk about the proposal, adding, “my personal opinion on this matter is very sharp and clear: in these circumstances I definitely oppose having the Labor party join the government.”

    “This process will seriously harm the public confidence in Israeli politics,” he explained. “The two parties, both us and Labor, went to these elections (in early 2015) while clarifying the unfathomable differences in positions between us, and promising countless times that a unity government would not arise.”

    The Likud minister emphasized that “a breach of these obligations and an artificial union between my comrades and myself with (Arab MK) Zuhair Bahloul who defends the terrorists and post-Zionists like Yossi Yonah and Stav Shaffir and their comrades will seriously harm the confidence of the public in the entire political system.”

    Endangering Likud’s future

    Elkin said that by joining the government, the Zionist Union party would be destroyed as would be the leadership of Herzog.

    “For MKs in the Labor party, if it joins the government, it will be worthwhile to struggle not over the roles of junior minister or deputy minister for nonsense affairs in our government, but rather to check the possibility of integrating into the tail-end of the (Knesset) list with (Yesh Atid head) Yair Lapid or in Meretz, of course under the presumption that they want to see the next Knesset not just from the Knesset TV channel.”

    Not only would the merger harm Zionist Union, but it would also cause Likud to lose in the coming elections according to the minister.

    He said that among other things, the anticipated resignation of Jewish Home members from the coalition would form a strong opposition against Likud from the political right in the next elections.

    “There is no doubt that a loss of the support from within the nationalist camp, both electorally and politically after the elections, is liable to cause us and together with us the nationalist camp to lose the coming elections,” he predicted.

    “Internal factionalization and world wars within the nationalist camp always ended badly,” Elkin warned, saying the process would endanger Likud’s future “for momentary benefit, which is imagined in my opinion.”

    A wolf in sheep’s clothing in the government

    Elkin anticipated that a unity government would not be stable, saying, “from the chaos currently reigning in the Labor faction it is clear that only some of the members of the faction see themselves as obligated to coalition discipline in return for the roles they will receive.”

    “The attempt shows that only those with roles in the government will remember that they’re part of the coalition, and that’s only at the start. With time the number of those feeling obligated will lessen, and the ministers and deputy ministers will try to have it both ways and be a hostile opposition as a wolf in sheep’s clothing within the government.”

    “With Jewish Home leaving the coalition it will start to disintegrate very quickly, and it is likely that the government won’t be able to maintain its composition for more than one year,” he emphasized.

    Explaining why Zionist Union joining the coalition would pull it leftward, he said Herzog “and his friends in the government will at all times try to restore the confidence of the left and justify post factum their sitting in the government.”

    “Therefore every day they will try to pull us to the left and will demand a payment ‘to Molekh’: more and more leftist achievements, otherwise they will cry and threaten that they won’t be able to stay inside (the government) and keep their comrades (inside as well).”

    He recalled a similar situation between 2009 and 2012 when Ehud Barak of Labor sat in the government with Likud.

    “For all these reasons and many others, I don’t believe in the process of a unity government and think that it is a great mistake, not only for the Labor party but also for Likud.”

    While noting that the current narrow 61 MK coalition which has the smallest majority possible makes it difficult to operate, he said it was preferable to not remaining loyal to the voters and to ideology.

    “I also call on all my faction members to show responsibility and to take on themselves more obligation and discipline, otherwise the historic responsibility of the mistake of a unity government and its damages will fall on their shoulders as well,” he concluded.
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/212222#.VzW82-Qorv8

  4. bernard ross Said:

    When right wingers protest his left wing actions he throws them a bone and within a few months the bone he threw disappears.

    You are right.
    Netanyahu is a skilled politician, besides being a dufus. A few months is a long time in Israel. Allies come and go, blow in, morph and then get blown out. It is a complex equation being The PM, so I am trying to give a PM the benefit of the doubt, as much as I have totally run out of savlanoot for this one particular “speechster”. It is difficult when you read about the actions of his stooges Ya’alon, Eizencott etc. Clearly The Jewish Home seems to get it. Unfortunately they have been marginalized while holding some significant portfolios, probably due to this shadow government, which locks Jewish Home out of the loop.
    I do not refute your facts, Mr. Ross, I read your posts and I think there is for me great insight.
    I did state clearly that Netanyahu has got to go. He has made horrendous blunders, such as the release of the security prisoners and inadequate security to protect Israelis. I agree with all of your points, I cannot refute fact.
    However, at the present time, the calling of new elections would create an opportunity, for Obama. For this reason, Netanyahu is the only one to see Obama out, like him or not, that is his job and then he must resign.
    I believe there is much more to discover about the Obama Administration’s meddling into Israel’s affairs.
    If Obama could have done to Netanyahu what he did to Mubarak of Egypt, He would have done it.
    Is there a Palestinian State?

  5. woolymammoth Said:

    Netanyahu may even go so far as to fire Jewish Home and replace them with still yet another leftist party. Now…if I am correct, he wants HIGHLY REALISTIC protests from the right which he will argue is preventing him from making the kind of drastic moves hoped for by the EU, UN and the whole bunch of vermin. We must give him those protests

    I think you are grasping at straws with this scenario… if it were true there would be no need for that show… the show he has been putting on is the exact opposite which goes like this:
    When right wingers protest his left wing actions he throws them a bone and within a few months the bone he threw disappears.
    If you were correct he would do the reverse, he would throw the foreign defamers and Israeli paid leftist moles a bone which would disappear a few months later:

    -E1
    -annoncements of approval which never build
    the regular tax withholding which responds to abbas and he gives it a few months later getting nothing
    -tearing down 9 tents and outhouses when discovered by his voters that for 9 years he has facilitated euro illegal building of muslim homes…. when it dies down the tearing down stops and he never arrested any euros or declared any persona non grata
    etc etc etc

    I understand that those who panicked from bennet to elect the mole are now in consternation… but facts are facts, you cannot just write fantasies that have no basis in any facts. I have given you his MO which is the reverse of your speculation… there are no facts to support you and he has been there almost 9 years.
    bernard ross Said:

    If my conclusion was incorrect we would already have seen many examples to the contrary but instead those examples have always been for show and disappear in short time.

    you need to cite some facts which support your speculation and potential scenario…. BB has always ended by screwing the right, but he talks a good talk, and they bought it until now.

  6. @ bernard ross: I see this move a bit differently, while I share some furiosity w Ross, Netanyahu is maneuvering to neutralize Obama in his final year with smoke and mirrors of his own. Hertzog/LIVNI ARE THE FIG LEAF. NETANYAHU CAN AND WILL ARGUE WITH Israel’s so called allies that he can do more to further their agenda than for them to back any sort of evil actions through the UN, even going so far as to revive negotiations, which Obama can use for his last term propaganda campaign.”See folks, I really do care about Israeli Palestinian pEACE AND tHE tss AND I AM WILLING TO PUT POLITICAL CAPITAL UP AND MY TIME AND SECRETARY KERRY…..ETC BARF AD FINITUM…” Obama IS INTERESTED IN CEMENTING TIES WITH tHE LEFTIST jEWS WHO HAVE CONTROL OVER UNMARKED BIG BUCKS WHO WILL BE PUBLISHING HIS BOOKS AND HELPING HE AND HIS FAMILY OUT FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS, SMAL RICE TO PAY, ME THINKS
    Netanyahu may even go so far as to fire Jewish Home and replace them with still yet another leftist party. Now…if I am correct, he wants HIGHLY REALISTIC protests from the right which he will argue is preventing him from making the kind of drastic moves hoped for by the EU, UN and the whole bunch of vermin. We must give him those protests and “demand” his ouster via a call for new elections, in the strongest meaning of the “term”. New elections should be held in February or March 2017 and will need to factor in who wins the US Presidency, but>>>>Netanyahu has got to go, next year and he may resign and make it a clean operation. Netanyahu WOULD PREFER TO RESIGN, CERTAINLY, THAT BE TERMINATED THROUGH ELECTION. jUST SO LONG AS HE GOES POST Obama.
    Nitzana Darshan Leitner needs to prepare.

  7. @ Bear Klein:

    What BB is your guy…. 🙂 Any buyers remorse yet Bear? BB never wanted a right of center coalition and has from first day been trying to get Labor into his government. Not even surprised that his Likud lackeys are making no attempt to oppose his move even though a majority will lose their ministries??/ BB is so dangerous I hope somebody will step up and stop him 🙂

  8. he’s made a very generous offer to opposition leader Herzog.

    BB realizes that he is unable to remain in the closet much longer while at the same time implementing all the foreign paid mole agenda of the left.. He sees that the pressures of those who voted him in will soon overflow and he will no longer be able to maintain the teflon status of plausible deniability of blaming his fig leaf appointees for implementing his covert agenda.
    BB knows he must soon overtly make the leftward shift to becoming a (LOL) “centrist” uniting all of Israel behind a leftist agenda. The reason he must woo Herzog is that he wants to maintain his power after losing his right wing voters. He has no other choice… he must move left to fulfill his agreements with the foreigners but he does not want to go down with the sinking ship of the right. He has accomplished his task competently, he has destroyed the right as a mole leader of the right. He will have time to prove himself as the responsible and stable leader of a national unity centrist gov while shedding the right.

    At this point, it is unclear whether Netanyahu is preparing to jettison the religious-nationalist Jewish Home party

    He will have no need to do that… he will further neutralize and castrate them as he did with Bennet at the beginning by giving him the Eunuch ministry. Whether they leave or not is no matter… they have already been castrated and will be unattractive and weak to right wing nationalists. BY will be neutered enough for Herzogs approval. They will become irrelevant and a new leader will have to emerge, within or outside that party. Liberman has more of a future than Benett.

    the sources noted that the ideological differences between the leftist Zionist Union and right-wing Likud parties…. would simply be too much for either party’s rank and file to stomach,

    😛 😛 😛 😛
    I see no “ideological” differences, nor practical differences between BB and Herzog. BB is against zionism, settlers and religious nationalists just like Herzog; BB facilitates euro building for muslims and obstructs Jews building outside their ghetto boundaries; BB facilitates the defamation and delegitimization of zionists by defaming, demonizing and incarcerating its members(e.g. duma, ettinger and the zionist soldier); BB is soft on the pals and hamas…Labor built more than BB in YS. The only thing BB has not done yet is to withraw from YS, and the need to unite with Herzog now probably indicates a major move in that direction. His giving away of parts of Area C is a piecemeal attempt towards that end. It is possible that after uniting with Herzog the demonization will lessen because he will now have the left more on his side towards giveaways. As for security, which is BB’s only platform, I dont see the left being less security conscious. Herzog is already yapping about security and when they start to giveaway there will be more leftist support for “security” decisions.
    As for likud, they have rubber stamped BB throughout… do they even actually exist other than to feed themselves like the religious parties in the coalition?
    I hear the fat lady warming up with her vocal exercises.
    everything BB has done transparently points to his agenda and this moment.