Abbas Zaki, close associate of Mahmoud Abbas, says a Palestinian state on the 1967 borders is only first stage in the PA’s program because “the inspiring idea cannot be achieved all at once. [Rather] in stages”
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by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik
Senior Palestinian official Abbas Zaki posted on his Facebook page an interview he gave to Syrian TV in which he said the PA will only agree to a treaty with Israel if the Palestinian state is established on the 1967 lines. However, he stressed that ’67 lines would only be the beginning. After that, the Palestinians will continue with the stages plan:
“Even the most extreme among us, Hamas, or the fighting forces, want a state within the ’67 borders. Afterward, we [will] have something to say, because the inspiring idea cannot be achieved all at once. [Rather] in stages.”
In an interview on Al-Jazeera TV in 2011, Zaki also mentioned this PA stages plan and referred to “the inspiring idea,” explaining that it means the end of Israel. He said that Mahmoud Abbas shares the goal of eliminating Israel in stages, but that the PA says it only wants a state along the 1967 borders because it is unacceptable politically to say you want to destroy Israel:
“You can’t say it to the world. You can say it to yourself.”
Zaki stressed that the goal is clear-cut because if Israel were to return to the 1967 lines, it certainly could not survive: “Israel will come to an end.”
This is Zaki’s full statement from 2011:
“The agreement is based on the borders of June 4 [1967]. While the agreement is on the borders of June 4, the President [Mahmoud Abbas] understands, we understand, and everyone knows that it is impossible to realize the inspiring idea, or the great goal in one stroke. If Israel withdraws from Jerusalem, if Israel uproots the settlements, 650,000 settlers, if Israel removes the (security) fence – what will be with Israel? Israel will come to an end. If I say that I want to remove it from existence, this will be great, great, [but] it is hard. This is not a [stated] policy. You can’t say it to the world. You can say it to yourself.”[Official PA TV, Sept. 23, 2011]
Expressing his refusal to recognize Israel earlier this year during a public lecture, Abbas Zaki started to refer to Israel’s Ben Gurion Airport as “Israel’s Airport,” but then stopped himself and corrected himself:
“When Mr. Obama came to the region during his visit, as soon as he arrived at the airport of Isra… [corrects himself], I mean, the airport where the Israelis are. I don’t want… [corrects himself] this whole country is ours, and Allah willing, the airport will also return to us.”[Official PA TV, April 8, 2013]
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| Zaki sitting in place of honor one seat from M. Abbas at Fatah event in 2011. |
These statements coming from Abbas Zaki are significant because he is a senior Palestinian official and a very close associate of Mahmoud Abbas. He was sent to Syria as Mahmoud Abbas’ personal representative a few months ago and has spoken at public events representing Fatah.
Another important statement reiterating that the PA is employing a stages plan to 
defeat Israel was expressed recently by PA Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud Al-Habbash in a Friday sermon in the presence of Mahmoud Abbas. Al-Habbash, speaking after the current round of peace talks was announced, said that the PA’s negotiations with Israel are modeled after the Hudaybiyyah agreement between Islam’s Prophet Muhammad and the tribes of Mecca. Recounting that Muhammad signed a 10-year truce, and yet two years later conquered Mecca, the minister stated: “This is the example and this is the model.”
Official PA children’s TV also teaches children to aspire to Israel’s destruction. Earlier this year the PA TV host told children:
PA TV host: “And of course we will never forget that we have land that was occupied in 1948, which will return to us one day. Remember well, children. Also [remember] to safeguard our folklore, our national games, the folklore in all its forms, our dress and our food and our games and anything that forms the Palestinian folklore – we have to safeguard it. If we don’t safeguard it, then the occupation might steal it as well, as it stole our land. Right? Do you agree with me? Bravo!”[Official PA TV, Feb. 23, 2013]
Bringing up children to see all of Israel as “occupied” territory and as “stolen Palestinian land” that will “return” at some future time are significant components of Palestinian Authority ideology that are never expressed to Western leaders or Israelis, and are denied during peace discussions. Zaki’s description of the peace process as intended to lead to Israel’s destruction is consistent with these messages to PA children and many other internal messages the PA leadership sends to its population.
See more documentation here.
To read a detailed analysis of the PA’s continuing and ongoing deception and violations of its international commitments see PMW’s book, Deception which documents that the PA policy of saying it wants peace in English is contradicted by its internal political, social and cultural activities, its leaders’ statements and its education of youth in Arabic. Click to see reviews or to purchase Deception.
The following is an excerpt from Abbas Zaki’s recent interview:
Syrian TV host: “When they talk about [the US] imposing a solution, we know that it will be deficient.”
[Official Syrian Satellite TV Channel, Dec. 23, 2013]
The following is a longer excerpt of the sermon delivered by PA Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud Al-Habbash comparing negotiations with Israel to Muhammad’s Treaty of Hudaybiyyah:
@ Yidvocate: If you have read Yoram Hazony’s Struggle for Israel’s Soul”, you would see that Israel’s Post-Zionism is rooted in the Bi-nationalism of Martin Buber’s German Jewish Intellectuals who were involved in the Brit Shalom movement which opposed the Establishment of a Jewish State in the Palestine Mandate (they actually attempted to meet with the Mufti for negotiations which he refused because he would not meet with Jews), and were founding faculty members of Hebrew University (Judah Leib Magnes, Hugo Bronfmann. Hebrew U became the fount of wisdom for such illustrious alumni as Amos Oz (Israeli Author, founder of Peace Now), Maron Benvenisti ( Meron Benvenisti (born 1934) is an Israeli political scientist who was Deputy Mayor of Jerusalem under Teddy Kollek from 1971 to 1978, during which he administered East Jerusalem and served as Jerusalem’s Chief Planning Officer. Initially trained as a medievalist, he has published books and maps on the Crusaders period in the Holy Land, he later obtained a Harvard doctorate in conflict management.He has long been a critic of Israel’s policies towards Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip and is an advocate of the idea of a binational state. See Wikipedia), etc.
Prof. Martin Sherman says that Israeli PMs are like limo drivers who although they may be officially to the “Right” drive according to the Leftist dictats of the Israeli Triumvirate (the Media, Academia, and Legal Establishment).
If one connects the dots between Hebrew University’s supply of Post-Zionist academia elites to other Israeli Universities, the Media, and the Lega Establishment, plus the desire to be accepted by their counterparts in the EU (which Prof. Sherman, himself, has asserted) ,one can see how the Zionist Narrative has been attrited.
@ yamit82:
Not exactly sure what you are saying Yamit.
Dr. Eldad is of the opinion that the second root (escape from oppression, in the despair of emancipation) won out. I say the jury is still out and you are right that it is not so easy to get the shtehl out of the Jew after 2,000 years of exile. That’s way G-d has been patient with us. After all it’s been almost 65 years that we’ve had to test that root and we can now clearly see that it has failed us. Time to revert to the first root before it is too late.
Yidvocate Said:
Dr Israel Eldad I believe has an answer other than insanity.
I say you cannot reverse the mindset of 2000 years of exile and the corruption of Judaism into a religion like christianity, in 2-3 generations. It will take many many more generations before that happens. Jews have mostly lost the nationalistic components of Judaism in the exile and have to relearn and reintegrate Jewish nationalism back into Judaism.
According to recent polls I have seen most Jews believe the Kotel (western wall ) is Judaisms’ holiest site and not the Temple Mount…. Here symbolically explains all of your complaints.
“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to Me; seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I also will forget thy children.” Hosea 4:6
This entire process is such a transparent obvious sham! The whole idea of a peace deal was an end of conflict. You know “peace”. The real deal, lion and lamb stuff and for ever more. Now there isn’t even a fake peace on the table. So why are we still talking about “Land for Peace” when we all know peace ain’t in the cards. And if it’s not in the cards and we ALL know it, what is there to talk about handing over our strategic depth to our implacable enemy? Heck why are we even talking about handing over anything other than bullet or a bomb or a convoy to repatriate them with their brothers across the river?
Why are we releasing convicted murders to bolster this demeaning, suicidal and shameful process?
Why do we engage Kerry’s demented obsession with our destruction?
Why do we refrain from mentioning (much less asserting) our far superior legal, historical, biblical, archeological and moral claims to entirety of this land?
Why do we not expose the Fakestinians for the posers they are?
Why do we not insist that Pollard be released when everyone knows and has finally spoken up that his continued incarceration is a travesty of justice?
Why do we allow tens of thousands of African infiltrators to remain and even protest all over the country disrupting civil society?
Why do we vigorously enforce demolition of unauthorized Jews homes and turn a blind eye to Arab squatters?
Why do we allow the Bedouin to take over the Negev?
Sadly, I could go on and on and on and on.
Does any of this suggest to anyone a “sovereign” state?
ARE WE INSANE????????????
The answer is yes unless you want a better one.
I posit that we came back by the grace of G-d after 2,000 years just as the Jewish prophets had foretold. Not to be a nation like all others which Israel and Judea never was and was never supposed to be. Our diminished sovereignty and our loosing our grip on our legitimacy as a state, our right to defend ourselves and even our right to exist is all as a result our trying to be a nation like all the rest. Israel only did well in the entire history of it’s existence, as its previous incarnations attest, when it was a Torah state. Remember why G-d gave us this land? It wasn’t to a nation like all the others. If you frame it all in this context it all suddenly makes sense. It’s even simple and explains the inexplicable.
You have to either accept this explanation or accept that we are insane.
The Springboard concept: Arabs rejected the 1947 partition, and Ben Gurion accepted it because that was the best deal he could realistically get at the time. The PLO declared a small Palestine to be a springboard for the big one, and the founders of modern Israel thought in similar terms in not defining or declaring our borders in our declaration of Independence.. The springboard concept, is clearly outlined in their famous PLO charter.
Let’s have some sane straight talk: The Mandate is no more, so why accept the British decision that took 3/4 of our land for Transjordan? The fleeting circumstances which led Ben Gurion to accept the partition in 1947 are gone, so why accept the partition any longer?
For every violation great or small the Arabs should be made to pay in loss of Land. They have their springboard conceptions and so should we.
Ha’bah lehargechah, hashkem le’hargo. All of them.