Yesterday, I posted two articles calling for death to terrorists. A couple of leftists cancelled their subscription to my Digest. Nice to see Daniel supporting the notion. Not that I am surprised. Ted Belman
Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog
Yesterday afternoon a young woman stood by the side of a road holding up a sign. It read “Gush Etzion”. Those two words summon up spittle-flecked rants about Zionist settlements from the anti-Israel left.
But for Dalia, it was just home. And then it wasn’t.
Dalia caught a ride to a bus stop on the way home from her job as a children’s occupational therapist. Her next stop was a shift at Yad Sarah, a volunteer organization for the elderly and disabled.
But before that could happen, a Muslim attacker did what songs, cartoons and posters distributed by the Palestinian Authority and Hamas encouraging “Car Jihad” had been telling him to do.
He ran her over with a Mazda van.
With the 26-year-old woman on the ground, the courageous Islamic Jihadist stabbed her as she lay dying. Then shouting Allahu Akbar, he began slashing at an unarmed man who had stopped to help. When the unarmed man fighting him off with his bare hands proved too much for the knife-wielding Jihadist, the killer fled, was wounded and taken into custody.
Dalia’s father, a volunteer with Magen David Adom, Israel’s Red Cross, heard that there had been an attack. He did what countless Israeli fathers and mothers began doing right after they heard the news. He called his daughter. There was no answer.
Despite being only in her twenties, Dalia knew what was coming. This wasn’t her killer’s first act of terrorism and it wasn’t her first time as a victim of Islamic terrorism.
When she was seventeen years old, Dalia was attacked by a knife-wielding terrorist in the same place. But the terrorist didn’t have a van and there were armed men at the scene.
“I stood on February 28, 2006 at Gush Etzion Junction when a terrorist came and began to stab those standing at a hitchhiking station,” she would later write.
She described terrorists for whom prison life is “like a hotel”, who watch television, take courses and contact their lawyers. “Those who stab Jews have their rights and privileges. The injustice cries out to Heaven.”
“Punish and expel those who threaten us,” Dalia wrote, “no matter the cost to them. They must pay the price for their terror. That is the only way the terrorism will end.”
As you read this, Dalia Lemkus will have already been buried. Her parents and her five brothers and sisters will have cried over her grave. Her killer will receive the best possible care in an Israeli hospital. The Palestinian Authority will use the foreign aid it receives from the United States and the European Union to pay him a salary for life. If he gets out, he will be entitled to everything from special housing to free medical care paid for by you, by me and by all of us.
Stabbing a young woman in the neck while she lay in the street made him a hero of Palestine. He has become a model of Muslim manhood, little boys in UNRWA schools will be taught about his great deed and encouraged to follow in his footsteps. And they will, just as he had followed the example of those great Muslim heroes who had murdered Jewish women and children in Hebron before he was born.
The educational system staffed by Hamas supporters and paid for by foreign aid does its work well. Some countries turn out future doctors and scientists. The Palestinian Authority turns out heroes who can nerve themselves up to take on a 26-year-old Jewish woman as long as they have a few thousand pounds of van or at least a butcher knife on their side. Not to mention Allah and the Koran.
Dalia’s killer may remain behind bars where Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch will complain that his smartphone isn’t fast enough, that his Coca Cola isn’t fizzy enough and that the clothes he shops for remotely with his family using the money that the Palestinian Authority pays to the families of its heroes don’t fit him correctly. But it’s also possible that he will be set free.
He was before.
Dalia’s killer had been in jail for terrorism before he was released. Releasing terrorists is how Israel demonstrates its goodwill toward terrorists.
This year, Obama forced Israel to free over a hundred convicted terrorists as a “gesture” just to get the Palestinian Authority terrorists to discuss continuing talks with Israel. Israel was being pressured into releasing terrorists in exchange for an opportunity to negotiate resuming negotiations. And Israel freed most of the terrorists until the PLO broke the deal and went to the UN.
Secretary of State John Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that it was Israel’s fault because it “didn’t release the Palestinian prisoners on the day they were supposed to be freed.”
The next time that Obama and Kerry force Israel to release terrorists for the opportunity to negotiate the possibility of negotiating with terrorists, Dalia’s killer may be shouting “Allahu Akbar” all over again. And if Israel doesn’t release him on the day that Obama and the PLO want him released, it will be blamed for not wanting peace. What better way is there to achieve peace than by freeing terrorists?
Dalia left her comments on talkbacks in which Israelis shout to be heard above the reassuring lies told by their media. Now she has been silenced. She will be buried in her native town of Tekoa where her body will rest unless the left and their Islamic partners succeed in forcing the expulsion of the thousand Jews of Tekoa, the living in the houses and the dead from the town cemetery.
The State Department, which rejects the existence of the living and dead Jews of Tekoa and wants them gone, responded to Dalia’s murder by urging both sides to show restraint.
The AP’s Matt Lee asked State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki whether she meant that Israelis should show restraint by standing still and allowing themselves to be stabbed.
“If you’re standing at a bus stop or something and someone runs a car into you or comes up and stabs you, I don’t know how to, I mean, those people aren’t, don’t need to exercise restraint, do they?”
Psaki laughed and refused to address the question. But it’s a question that ought to be addressed.
Israel is constantly ordered to show restraint. It is told that its response to Muslim terrorism is disproportionate. But when does proportionate restraint begin? Is it when a Muslim terrorist is running you over with a van and sinking his knife into your neck? Or is it only when the terrorist is down and you contemplate doing something about the men who sent him and will continue sending more like him?
Israel is generously allowed to fight back once the knife is at its neck. But once it breaks free, then it’s told to show restraint. Taking out the terrorist networks that send out men like this would be disproportionate. Refusing to release the killer of Dalia would show that Israel doesn’t want peace.
And no matter what Israel does, how much it sacrifices, how many young women it buries in its cemeteries after they have been run over, stabbed or blown up, no matter how many of their killers it releases, it is always guilty of not wanting peace badly enough.
Critics of Israel like Jeffrey Goldberg insist that its situation is not “sustainable”. And that’s true.
Struggling with an attacker who has a knife at your throat is not sustainable. Either he cuts your throat or you cut his throat. If every time you get enough breathing room to fight back, you try to negotiate with him, instead of doing to him what he’s trying to do to you, then eventually he will kill you.
Dalia survived her first attack. She didn’t survive her second attack. There are only so many second chances when someone wants to kill you. And if you are a non-Muslim in the Muslim world, then someone always wants to kill you.
The price of restraint is death. Negotiating with your killers lets them trade up from a knife to a van, from a stone to a rocket, from an outpost in Lebanon to fortresses within range of your major cities.
Dalia tried to warn Israelis. She tried to warn the world. Now her voice speaks from the grave. It is the voice of the dead. It is the voice of truth.
“They must pay the price for their terror. That is the only way the terrorism will end.”
I want to thank Yidvocat, Honeybee and Yamit for lowering the temperature even before my comment.
sabashimon Said:
“petty bullshit”. That sums it up. There is nothing wrong with HB’s original comment. She could have been referring to her appearance or to her character. But let assume the worst, that she was referring to her appearance. In that she would not be alone. People consider the killing of a beautiful person a greater tragedy than the killing of a much less attractive person, rightly or wrongly. That’s human nature.
Yidvocat had an understandable emotional reaction but he merely said “Buzz off”. Big deal. Unfortunately the exchange took off from there. The comments about the comments were all worse than the original comments and descended into ad hominem attacks. Its unfortunate because you are all valued contributors.
So please back off, kiss and make up.
And by the way, Dahlia was a beautiful person inside and out.
@ sabashimon:
Thanks saba you be safe as well chavir.
There are a lot of us out there but it seems we need an organized framework to make a difference….
I will settle for another yiftach and HB favors Deborah all good for our prototypical reference points.
@ yamit82:
You are correct yamit…..talking t’ain’t going to get it done.
Which is why I wrote “until we TAKE BACK our sovereignty”.
And when I say that, I mean in the same fashion as would King David.
That means sparing no one amongst our enemies, which just happens to include a goodly number of so-called Jews.
Good night, and be safe.
You were not disrespectful in the least and you feelings and sentiments resonated with me so yid was in error which he finally admitted, relax and forget it. >>>
@ yamit82:
I should have such a beautiful woman, my condolences to her family. I never meant to be disrespectful. have no idea what angered yidvocate, I should have ignored him.>
honeybee Said:
🙂 >>>
yamit82 Said:
Rootin tootin>>>>>>>>
@ honeybee:
Your talking to a girl who works with cattle. 🙂 >>>
@ yamit82:
@ honeybee:
Yamit. You are an ass whole. Hello Ted, are you there! I’m out of here. I have better things to do then trade insults with an arrogant pompous ass (whole) know it all.
Yamit you demonstrate what’s wrong with our Jewish nation. Like minded Jews are going at each other, never mind not like minded Jews and the resulting lack of unity is why we are in the soup we’re in.
Have a nice life.
Ted: If yamit ever leaves the blog, do drop me a line.
Yamit have a nice life. HB, well……………
@ Yidvocate:
Did it ever occur to you the women perceive differently the men.
@ Yidvocate:
Benefit of the doubt? No benefit of the doubt required there was never any doubt and that was without knowing HB.
You read it with malice aforethought and voiced it plainly.
sabashimon Said:
Talking ain’t going to solve the problem…We have lost sight of morality and have endangered our own people for pity of our enemy’s children. We fear what the nations may say. Even with our futile attempts to protect our enemy’s civilians, we are condemned by the world. And anti-Semitism is growing worldwide. Yet our destiny will never let us perish. When our leaders go astray, events take place which put them back on the right path. Our leaders thought they could make peace by giving away Gaza. That mistake has come back to haunt us.
@ Yidvocate:
@ honeybee:
@ yamit82:
@ sabashimon:
Le’chaim guys!
Yidvocate Said:
Busted
Yidvocate Said:
I said “beautiful woman”.
Yidvocate Said:
I never read your post, I find them both pompous and obtuse.
Yidvocate Said:
Your talking to a girl who works with cattle.
@ honeybee:
My point was that had I read you more, I would have known you better and would have maybe given you the benefit of the doubt like yamit and phoenix automatically did. Context is important.
honeybee Said:
3 s’s of HB???
@ honeybee:
Darl’n you really need to proof read before you hit the “post” button. I had to read your post several times to figure out what you are trying to say. It was really a problem of the same sort that started this vicious feud with yamit toppling on top of us into the fray. I can’t read your mind. From the words you used, it communicated to me that all you saw in the entire article was a pretty girl and it infuriated me not only because it seemed so inappropriate and superficial suggesting that if she was not attractive you’d have nothing to say, but it also related to me that you were oblivious to the grave injustice of this animal sitting comfortably in a Jewish hospital bed on the tab of the people he cruelly and cowardly murdered and will be seen as a hero and rewarded and even exhonorated at the end of the day by Israel. I was screaming MAD and ANGRY and the first comment that came in my fit of rage was “pretty girl”. So I bit your head off! Sorry if I offended but really I can’t read your mind. Maybe its because generally I don’t read your posts because I don’t find them serious. Again no offence intended. Frankly when I do read them I enjoy them and find them witty – really. It’s just that I don’t have the time (I wish I did) so I restrict my time to substance of my obsession which is Israel and not humor. And I don’t smell that bad, really!
Yidvocate Said:
Well something good has resulted in these exchanges.
You were wrong way off base and chose an unwarranted attack on HB and later me for siding with her. Even after in polite manner Phoenix explained to you what was obvious to me and to him and probably eveeryone else you persisted with no mea culpa. That shows you are either obtuse or maliciously brain dead either way you do not look so pristine in the light of day.
sabashimon Said:
So what is y’alls solution to preventing these outrageous occurrences?
Yidvocate Said:
Bursted, obviously English is not yawls first language. Buy a new pack of Bubble gum, yawls is getting worn.
The comments contained herein are precisely why I generally don’t bother reading comments on this or most other blogs. Petty bullshit rather than discussing the heart of the matter, that is the complete loss of sovereignty in the Jewish National Homeland.
Until we take back our sovereignty including of course in our Capitol city everybody is wasting their breath.
Grow up. As a combat vet who still serves in miluim and who has a grandson just finishing his officers course, “y’all” embarrass me.
@ Yidvocate:
We are way past HB and what and how I feel about her is really none of you G_D business. This is now between us. You want to mix with me let’s go. I really don’t like you you pompous ass and I will let you know when ever an opportunity presents itself. Interesting to know you are following me on Disgus. Maybe I should return the compliment.
Not offended. I have a thicker skin than either you or HB. But I have to admit – disappointed and more than a little bit shocked.
Till this day I had the greatest respect for you and read all your posts with interest and admiration.
No more. My bubble has been bursted in a very shocking way.
Yidvocate Said:
<blockquote when all she wrote was a comment on her appearance!
When I wrote about her inner-beauty, look at her eyes in the photo. Such warmth and purity. You chose to mis-understand because I have make you look like a dyspeptic old fool.
@ Yidvocate:
My language reflects what and how I think of you. I hope you are offended and if not I don’t give a crap.
Yidvocate Said:
Are that stupid, you can’t really believe that nonsense !!! Sweatpea
Mature? To an AH like you??? You are undeserving of a mature response. That my message to you got through is what matters to me. How I phrase it is up to me just like how you phrased your your comments to HB and me is your business each in his own signon. You Ben Zona!!!!
What’s important is we understand each other.. Now we do !
@ yamit82:
Well that speaks volumes!
Maybe if you cleaned up your language, stopped calling people derogatory names and stopped taking personal offence when not directed at you and none of your FB, Ted would let your genie out of the bottle more often.
Just friendly advice. No offence intended to you or to others which you might decide to take up for yourself!
Well “Yudon” Ben Zona,how should I reply to such a response? Youu may not be offense to Belman but you are to me.
Yidvocate Said:
Well “Yudon” Ben Zona,how should I reply to such a response? You may not be offense to Belman but you are to me. Your phony faux Bullshit pique at HB had nothing to do with her innocuous comment. As she said it goes beyond her comment. Your personal opinion of her me or anyone else is yours but your comment was inappropriate and insulting. No one else but you seems to have been offended piqued or put off but you.
You seem to be the kind of low life who talks the talk but you little chicken shit, why aren’t you here and I don’t give a shit how many family members you claim is here you aren’t. Big mouth no risk and you criticize anybody because their comment doesn’t meet your phony standards of proper anger and disgust?
Ten years ago I had a woman similar young women die in my arms after an explosion. Where were you big mouth having dinner in a nice restaurant. In January A couple of Hamas Rocket exploded a mile from my house killing 2 Bedouin try living with a regional version of Russian Roulette. Where where you in January Big mouth???
I think I know HB as well as any here and I know of none with a bigger heart and a love for children and innocent young people murdered or injured in Terrorist attacks. You I have my doubts.
If she is for you an insect meant in a pejorative context you are a dirty Kike also in the pejorative.
Hebrew for you is also a foreign language for you, Too bad I can’t type in Hebrew for you because Ted’s software has no Hebrew function but pretend what I am saying here is in Hebrew. “Ben Zona” “Ben Kalbah”!!!
My comment to The dirty Yudon- Kike #14-14 got spam botted so Ted is blocking my comments. There will be other opportunities.
@ Yidvocate:
Well “Yudon” Ben Zona,how should I reply to such a response? You may not be offense to Belman but you are to me. Your phony faux Bullshit pique at HB had nothing to do with her innocuous comment. As she said it goes beyond her comment. Your personal opinion of her me or anyone else is yours but your comment was inappropriate and insulting. No one else but you seems to have been offended piqued or put off but you.
You seem to be the kind of low life who talks the talk but you little chicken shit, why aren’t you here and I don’t give a shit how many family members you claim is here you aren’t. Big mouth no risk and you criticize anybody because their comment doesn’t meet your phony standards of proper anger and disgust?
Ten years ago I had a woman similar young women die in my arms after an explosion. Where were you big mouth having dinner in a nice restaurant. In January A couple of Hamas Rocket exploded a mile from my house killing 2 Bedouin try living with a regional version of Russian Roulette. Where where you in January Big mouth???
I think I know HB as well as any here and I know of none with a bigger heart and a love for children and innocent young people murdered or injured in Terrorist attacks. You I have my doubts.
If she is for you an insect meant in a pejorative context you are a dirty Kike also in the pejorative.
Hebrew for you is also a foreign language for you, Too bad I can’t type in Hebrew for you because Ted’s software has no Hebrew function but pretend what I am saying here is in Hebrew. “Ben Zona” “Ben Kalbah”!!!
@ the phoenix:
Perhaps so but unlike you and yamit, I can’t read minds. I only read words.
@ yamit82:
And I’ll add a third reason: I note from my Disqus email notification that you posted (or tried to – I don’t see it here):
“Author: yamit82
Comment:
Yidvocate Said:
Buzz off Honeybee! Is that all you can say!!!!
What would you have her say she was speaking from her heart even identifying with the poor girl.
If anyone needs to buzz off and shut the F k up it’s you.”
“STFU” – very nice Yamit profound even! Really gets the point across. Mature and incisive to the max. Well done.
I love how you can read into HB’s comments – “speaking from the heart, identifying with the girl” when all she wrote was a comment on her appearance! Maybe you should STFU and leave your fondness for HB at the door.
@ Yidvocate:
Were you to understand that “beauty” refers to SO MUCH MORE, (not just physical), I daresay that this entire exchange would not have occurred.
@ honeybee: Sweet little insect, now you get personal. By the way in Georgia and north Florida it is ya-all. Hate to disabuse you but the world doesn’t revolve around Texas.
@ yamit82:
Maybe I don’t get moderated cuz my comment, although perhaps offense, seems appropriate under the circumstances – ie. brutal murder and abysmal GOI response, results in “pretty girl” while your comment has nothing to do with the article, is petty, partisan and in a foreign language. There I go insulting again!But at least I don’t intend it “personally”
@ honeybee:
Cualquier persona que te insulta en este blog me insulta
yamit82 Said:
You got modified twice for me Sugar. Yidvocate,,, no vale la pena.
Yidvocate Said:
Don’t worry Darlin you were not near enough to smell.
Yidvocate Said:
In the Southern states it’s y’all In Texas it’s yawl !!!!!!!!!!! Just trying to edumacate you.
@ Yidvocate:
Now you have two comments from me in moderation
Funny I get moderated and you don’t???
@ Yidvocate:
While HB needs no one to defend her I will say in both your
comments that you have offended me…
bad move fella because I don’t take prisoners.
@ the phoenix:
Excuse my outrage after reading the article and then HB’s comment “beautiful woman” – Really? That’s all she had to say about it?
I found it not only offensive in the context, but emblematic of the lack of response by the GOI which only enraged me that much more.
Sorry HB if I offended you. I guess I shouldn’t have expect much more from you judging by your usual posts ya-all.
@ Yidvocate:
My comment to you in in moderation. I hope you will get to read it.
@ phoenix
I have stung Yidvocate often in his rather large backside. And thus he attempts to retaliate in this silly and impotent manner. I bring out the worst in the weak.
Yidvocate Said:
No I shall leave everything to say to your rather large and vociferous mouth.
@ Yidvocate:
While there is no disagreement with your “list”…. What the hell was your outburst (at hb) for?
@ honeybee:
Buzz off Honeybee! Is that all you can say!!!!
> rock throwing is attempted murder and will now be answered with “shoot to kill”;
> Anyone one convicted of terrorism or aiding and abetting terrorism will be sentenced to summary execution;
> UNWRA will be given 48 hours notice to remove itself from the land of Israel;
> The Temple Mount will henceforth be open for Jewish prayers and any disruption by Arabs will result in no Arab entry to the Mount for 48 hours for each occurence;
> Incitement to violence will carry a mandatory sentence of 20 years without parole or pardon.
> Arab MK’s must take an oath of allegiance to the Jewish State of Israel and any violation of the oath will result in being striped of citizenship and summarily deported;
> Arabic will no longer be an official language of the State of Israel and all Arab signage to be removed;
> J&S are immediately annexed and all Arabs must swear an oath of allegiance to the Jewish State of Israel and can remain, while in strict compliance as legal residents or move elsewhere;
> All Arab media is immediately discontinued;
> Israel will no more accept “aid” from the U.S.which must move its embassy to Jerusalem or close it’s embassy;
> —- what else should be on the list for immediate action to stop the terror and restore Jewish sovereignty and pride to the Jewish nation? The above is just right off the top.
Such a beautiful woman !!!!!!!!