Peloni: How ironic is it that the comic who was elected to bring peace to his nation is doing everything possible to keep the war going? Trump is right to castigate Zelensky for his previous actions which led to war, as well as many of his current actions as well
Another malicious nut projecting. Birds of a feather. No point in acknowledging or responding to these arrogant, execrable, belligerent, opinionated, uninformed schmucks, no matter what poop comes out of their mouths. The founder of Israpundit, whose name hardly anyone remembers, was wise to pass the baton to Ted Belman who showed the same wisdom in passing it to Peloni.
@Sebastien
This was very kind of you to suggest. I do my best to carry that baton, and I am inspired daily to do my best by the contributions, reflections, and support from so many others, such as yourself. So thank you, to you, each of our bloggers, and all of our readers!
The whole key to understand the rush to meeting in America lies in crisis breakdowns in Ukrainian proxy army
Note
1. Trump out of the blue dispatched his envoy
2. The weak Putin agrees to meeting in Alaska
3. He should have said to Trump NO CAN DO
A very bad move by Putin. These Stalinist negotiate people are very dangerous for Russia.
It will have to be decided by raw force
Laura
History has showed the islamic Jihad hates Russia.
Yet the jihad has been.quelled there
Why and how?
The lesson is that there is not uncontrolled immigration.
PS Russia will not invade west Ukraine and won’t have to.
@fquigley
True
Sebastien Zorn
There’s a difference between socialism or communism existing and socialist measures.
You are confusing the names as in propaganda in the genuine sense of that word
Lenin with trotsky did give national liberation
Important position to take up
But the Ukrainian government, it’s power based, allied with the very real enemy
And then led the massive Pogroms
So the Jews became totally involved in that Civil War in Ukraine and Byelorussia, even Poland.
They armed themselves and became close to the Red Army.
Soviet rule in Ukraine came in that way.
Recently Jewish academics have showed that without question.
It is not hard to discover it
SEB_
Maybe, if you ask nicely, he’ll let you touch the revered Holy Relic…the battered suitcase, out of shape from the thousands of secret documents he stuffed it high with secret documents, , hauling the battered Relic aronnd from Embassy ton Embassy selling them for cash.
He may even tell you where he has his loot stashed…….??
Pollard the traitor…..!!
Sebastien Zorn
What a Hodge podge of thoughts
But the only consistency that they lead to attempt, note I say ATTEMPT, to slander views you don’t agree with, in the sense you are ignorant of those views, so it is NOT based on history, but bias.
Poor Sebastien. Nowhere to go. Bankrupt.
Avi Abelow on FB. I think the interview is on Israpundit
How’s this for unity of opposites, Russia’s demands regarding Ukraine and NATO are just but Russia is no friend to Israel or to Jews. It never has been, except for five minutes during WWII and in 1948, and Jewish Communists were tolerated in the 20s. Jews as Jews have no reason to be involved in the Russia-Ukraine war. To stave off antisemitism, Russian Jews should support Russia, Ukrainian Jews should support Ukraine. * And diaspora Jews should just support ISRAEL. And America to the extent that she supports Israel. The U.S. and a handful of pacific island nations are the only nations in the world that have voted in defence of Israel in the U.N. almost every time!
“AI Overview
+10
Yes, Pirkei Avot, specifically Pirkei Avot 3:2, emphasizes the importance of supporting the government where one resides.
Rabbi Chanina, the vice-high priest, teaches:
“Pray for the welfare of the government, for were it not for the fear it inspires, every man would swallow his neighbor alive.”
This means that government plays a crucial role in maintaining order and preventing anarchy, highlighting the need to support its continued functioning.
Beyond Pirkei Avot, the principle of “dina d’malkhuta dina” – the law of the land is the law – further reinforces the obligation to obey the laws of the country where one resides. This means that, for Jews, observing the civil law is considered a religiously mandated obligation unless those laws outright contradict their own religious laws.
Therefore, according to Jewish tradition, Jews are encouraged to be responsible and law-abiding citizens who actively support and contribute to the well-being of the countries they live in. ”
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* I wonder if this is where Lenin got the idea for his view that Russians should support the right of minority nations within Russia to separate if they wish, while those nations should advocate the right to union with the mother country. And sociallism was a principle that superceded both.
I don’t think Zelensky should give in to Russian aggression and reward Russia’s imperialistic invasion with Ukrainian territory. However I have a far better deal. Trump should offer western Europe to Putin in exchange for its full withdrawal from Ukraine. Western European countries are already being overrun with muslim terrorists so they can’t be any worse off being under Russia’s control. And frankly they deserve it. It would also be poetic justice for them recognizing a muslim terrorist state at Israel’s expense.
The Globalists in the war are being fought against by Nation Russia. It is a big plus for the Jewish nation if Russia wins…not vanquished by massive odds
@fquigley
Idiotic comment as I outlined in my commonsense “hodgepodge.” You are a monomaniac, trying to insert your irrelevant pet issues into everything and to make it about them, whether it’s Russia, or Trotsky, or “Global Warming”. Did I leave anything out?. 😀
How is it a big plus for the Jewish nation since Russia is on the side of hamas and Iran?
@Laura Seriously!
Peloni
McGregor reads this war more correctly than some on this site
He is in advance of many Jews who support the Neonazis
On McGregor and Israel. Note he is pro Iran so he is in the camp of Antisemitism.
He talks sense on the war on Russia. This must be held together in a unity of opposites.
@fquigley
Interesting.
In any event, I am not inclined to watch him myself, and accordingly, i will not suggest that others do either. I made this decision during a conversation I had with Ted last year. Nothing has given me pause to change this decision.
What is more, I disagree that McGreggor is some form of guide post for the Ukraine war, and if we are going to pick among antisemites to lead us to the true north on the Ukraine war, it would open the field wide for candidates who are far less successful in spreading Jew Hatred than is McGreggor…which is why I won’t post him.
@Peloni Good for you.
@fquigley
which makes him a real neo-nazi.
Peloni
“How ironic is it that the comic who was elected to bring peace to his nation is doing everything possible to keep the war going? Trump is right to castigate Zelensky for his previous actions which led to war, as well as many of his current actions as well ”
Trump is very changeable. His big hatred statements are against Russia and that is apt because trump is part of the wide coalition that aims at destroying Russia
Adam is the block to knowledge in denying that Ukraine is a proxy
..the weapon directed to destroying Russia.
This will be decided on the battle field
I note that Peloni has made a big deal out of it. He claims he didn’t use the term …mocking. BIG DEAL because
He prints it without qualifications
What does he print
“TRUMP MOCKS…..”
Adam has a right to come back and say to Peloni
“Why the fuss. You did reproduce the words without a quibble”
Serious stuff about conduct and ethics.
I will raise another point
In about 1923 on Stalin began to raise the possibility of no more revolution abroad and advanced later that there was a peaceful road to socialism
This was actually a lie by Stalin. The whole basis of Marxism, Leninism and Trotskyism is that there can never be a road to peace
And so it has transpired in this Ukrainian War
The brave and resourceful russian people have been fighting for all of humanity in this war, and also for Ukraine, against the Stepan Bandera Neonazis of the present
But this sacrifice is denied by Biden and by this glory Nobel seeking Trump who is a true NONENTITY by any standard.
Felix likes war.
Again I try to follow the argument. Peloni reduced it down to he was misquoted by Adam.
Adam LIKEWISE keeps getting to the point of stating the case of Ukraine. But it’s Ukraine case is total lies from A to Z. BOTH THESE TWO MISS THE WAR AND WHATS THE REALITY THERE.
But we cannot get to it. Peloni is stating the mockery thing as if that mattered much
The Ukrainian case of Adam is all lies
This is not a government. It’s a dictatorship and has been since Neonazis took power in 2014 in the Maiden VIOLENCE
That’s why Luria was murdered. He was talking as if there wasn’t a dictatorship
That is the heart of the issue
Adam doesn’t answer me but I put the first point first
“Do you accept Ukraine as a proxy
Why did Russia react to the maiden events 2014
Is Russia interested in land capture or in security of borders v NATO.”
“Adam if you answer these you will answer much”…I hopefully added
Note: Ukraine as proxy
My very first question I ask him to answer.
He doesn’t answer and it’s very simple and meaningful.
It’s the answer to the war. It’s the answer to Minsk 2 which is also the answer to what trump is doing in forcing this meeting in Alaska
Merkel said she was buying time in Minsk 2 and that’s what Trump is doing in Alaska.
Buying time. The CIA said the lines at Perlosvk were about to collapse. He panicked. He dispatched his envoy. He lied saying Russia was begging for the meeting.
Putin should contradict him but Putin I emphasize is not Lenin or Trotsky so Putin too plays us.
So the Russia knows the world hates Russia just as Jews knows Antisemitism of Islam hated Jews.
But these are not Trotskyists so truth is absent.
To find out truth on this war in Ukraine it only comes from McGregor etc
But he is not quoted here and that’s why this is a CLIQUE SITUATION and why israpundit readers aren’t getting the picture from McGregor
PS
Adam doesn’t answer me ever. He avoids my simple, straight forward and think meaningful questions which I think do get to the heart of it.
And who thereby gains if Adam doesn’t answer my questions.
@fquigley Probably because you’re a nut. Nobody would gain if Adam replied to you. I don’t know why I bother to.
SEB-
You bother to answer because you are by nature a malicious tormentor an {in Latvian} Yiddish_” a tzilahachus”………in YOUR American coarse, vulgar lingo. :A drek stirrer”.
Except that the real word in not “drek” but it’s American equivalent.
@fquitgley
You won’t be seeing McGregor quoted here. His malicious descriptions of Israel undermine his use as a credible source IMHO. While it seems that this is almost universally true of those covering the Ukraine war, I find myself as being so entriely disappointed in McGreggor, that I can not waste my reader’s time by offering him the credibility which you hold in him.
Recent (within the past few days) film clips of Trump discussing his efforts to negotiate a peaceful settlement of the Ukraine war with U.S. reporters, show him making respectful references to Zelensky, not mocking: him. He promised that if he succeeded in negotiating a peace deal with Putin in Alaska, Zelensky would be the first person to hear about it. He also said that if he sensed he had made a breakthrough with Putin, he would try to organize a peace conference in which Zelensky would represnt Ukraine, and the principal European countries would be represented. He said that Turkey would be a likely location for this conference. Another possible outcome would be a three-way meeting between Trump, Putin and Zelensky. All of his references to Zelensky were respectful.
The reason I write about a Ukrainian “alternative Universe” is that Peloni and other individuals writing in Israpundit are so at odds with what I my sources tell me is happening in Ukraine that it is as you guys were living in an alternative universe. The people who are supporting Russia in this conflict seem to me to be completely out of touch with reality.
@Adam
You are of course welcome to express your own views, but you once again suggest that I have suggested Trump was mocking Zelensky. I did not make this statement. I say once again that Trump was sharply critical of Zelensky, and fairly so. This is not mockery, but only a fair depiction of Zelensky’s foolish moves which turned the peace candidate which he claimed to be into the war president which he has been since well before his term of office ended.
Peloni the way you have written that paragraph is a cover, covering up, what trump is doing
And that is both dangerous and deceitful
Trump in all is prosecuting the war on Russia
But you Peloni at this critical time suggest he is not
See my other post where I explained trump is doing what Merkel was doing in Mersk 2
You seem to miss that
@fquigley
Wrong. I made no such claim. It would be silly to suggest Trump was not supporting the war, as the facts about his actions are as plain as your false description of my own words. His purpose in doing arming Ukraine, however, belies a different goal than his predecessor, so we will see where it all goes, particularly with regards to the pivotal Alaska summit.
Adam
Your words
“Ukraine does accept the proposed borders of the “territorial swap,” I think the ball is now in Donald Trump’s court now. He must decide if the U.S. is prepared to enter into some sort of treaty or at least binding written agreement with Ukraine to protect it in the event that Putin, whom the Ukrainians believe wants to annex all of Ukraine, should resume the war in the future ”
Do you accept Ukraine as a proxy
Why did Russia react to the maiden events 2014
Is Russia interested in land capture or in security of borders v NATO.
Adam if you answer these you will answer much
Trump’s most recent comments about Zelensky, as broadcast either today or yesterday by the American MSM, were respectful and sympatheric in tone, not at all “mocking” as Peloni says. He also had mainly positive comments about Putin, and said he was looking forward to meeting him in Alska. He added that if he succeeded in reaching an agreement with Putin as he hoped, he would inform Zelensky before anyone else.
@Adam
This is not true. I never said Trump’s comments were mocking nor did I characterize them in any way. I think hos comments were fairly critical, but not mocking in any way. Perhaps you have me mixed up with some other Peloni.
From the Ukraine alternative universe: Zelensky says that the Ukraine accepts the land swap, but wants firm security guarantees from the United States and other NATO countries. Either NATO membership or a separate requiring the U.S. and other NATO countries to intervene to protect Ukraine. But Ukraine does accept the proposed borders of the “territorial swap,” I think the ball is now in Donald Trump’s court now. He must decide if the U.S. is prepared to enter into some sort of treaty or at least binding written agreement with Ukraine to protect it in the event that Putin, whom the Ukrainians believe wants to annex all of Ukraine, should resume the war in the future
So then it’s ok for an anti America coalition to set up it’s nuclear rockets on the Mexico border and the Canada border?
Oh wait I forgot. The Cuba crisis… remember the fuss?
The above point I made to Adam was not replied to by Adam
He refused to reply to me.
@Adam D.