Tucker Carlson calls Christian Zionism ‘brain virus & heresy’ during interview with avowed antisemite Fuentes

Peloni:  These ‘Woke Right’ provocateurs are actively rising a revolution in the Right which far better aligns them with the Left, as they actively ignore personal liberties, eschew well established American values, and call to realign America with American enemies who are themselves actively interested in overthrowing American/Western society. Importantly, the values and outlook of Carlson etc is better aligned with Obama than with Trump, better aligned with Iran/Qatar than with Israel/KSA and ultimately better aligned with the agenda of China in America than with the MAGA agenda in the USA.   Hence, describing them as Woke Right or Far Right only serves to disguise their ideological deviation from the Right, and the fact that this deviation is towards the Far Left.  Making this mistake only serves to help Carlson and his allies achieve the goal which they are ultimately seeking, namely to fracture the MAGA movement which they oppose, while actively stoking the embers of Jew Hatred to do so.

Huckabee: ‘Wasn’t aware Tucker despises me, I get that a lot from people not familiar with the Bible’

Tucker Carlson speaking with attendees at the 2023 AmericaFest at the Phoenix Convention Center in Phoenix, Arizona. Photo by Gage Skidmore from Surprise, AZ, United States of America - Tucker Carlson, CC BY-SA 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=142959457Tucker Carlson speaking with attendees at the 2023 AmericaFest at the Phoenix Convention Center in Phoenix, Arizona. Photo by Gage Skidmore from Surprise, AZ, United States of America – Tucker Carlson, CC BY-SA 2.0, Wikipedia

Former Fox News host and analyst Tucker Carlson continued his descent into rank antisemitism on Tuesday, publishing an interview with far-right podcaster Nick Fuentes, who has engaged in open holocaust denial and praised Hitler in the past.

Despite former disagreements between them, Carlson and Fuentes bonded over their shared suspicion of “these Jews,” as well as their distaste for Christian Zionism and its supporters among the Republican Party.

The self-identified lapsed Episcopalian Carlson lauded Fuentes for his criticism of Israel and U.S. support for it, “because it’s insane and it hurts us. We get nothing out of it. I completely agree with you there.”

He went on to blast Christian Zionists who he said were “seized by this brain virus,” listing figures like Mike Huckabee, Ted Cruz, John Bolton, George W. Bush and Carl Rove.

“Christian Zionists – like what is that? … I dislike them more than anybody, you know, because it’s Christian heresy and I’m offended by that as a Christian,” Carlson declared in the interview.

“If you wake up in the morning and decide that your Christian faith means you have to support whatever the Israeli government does, that’s not Christianity – that’s something else.”

Huckabee responded to clip from the interview, writing on ? that he “Wasn’t aware that Tucker despises me. I do get that a lot from people not familiar with the Bible or history. Somehow I will survive the animosity.”

Senator Cruz commented, “It’s remarkable, and sad, watching Tucker turn into Nick Fuentes.” Cruz had defended U.S. support for Israel in a notably hostile interview with Carlson earlier this year.

The interview with Fuentes drew strong criticism from several popular Republican voices.

Conservative author Dinesh D’Souza wrote, “I debated Nick Fuentes because the two of us strongly disagree. We are not on the same side. Tucker did a friendly, almost devotional interview with Nick because the two of them are on the same side.”

Orthodox Christian author Rod Dreher, who said he had considered Carlson a friend, wrote on his Substack blog that “this was a bright red line that I was hoping Tucker would not cross. But cross it he did… Total softball interview, entirely sympathetic. Shockingly so.”

“Tucker asked nothing about Fuentes’s past statements praising Hitler, or any number of horrific things that have come out of that kid’s mouth, (e.g., ‘We will make Jews die in the holy war.’).”

“Carlson has, by this squishy-soft interview, introduced Fuentes into the right-wing mainstream. It is legit freaky that we have reached this point in American life. It is, in fact, Weimar America time,” Dreher concluded.

Author Eric Metaxas argued, “What’s really going on is that we are seeing Satan trying to push Christian faith out of the MAGA movement. Those who love Jesus love the Jews. Read my Bonhoeffer book on that. Let’s pray Tucker repents of this grievous misstep.”

Despite Fuentes’ well-known admiration for Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, Carlson cautiously pushed back against his type of overt Jew-hatred, claiming he is “not that interested in ‘the Jews,’ but I am very interested in the foreign policy question.”

“The second you’re like, ‘Well, actually, it’s the Jews,’ first of all, it’s against my Christian faith. Like, I just don’t believe that, and I never will. Period,” he said.

Carlson explained that his aversion to Christian Zionism began around 2003, when he became “pissed at the neocons [Neoconservatives]” allegedly driving U.S. foreign policy by instigating the Iraq War.

Fuentes explained that in his opinion, “neoconservatism arises from Jewish leftists who are mugged by reality when they saw the surprise attack during the Yom Kippur War.”

“As far as the Jews are concerned, you cannot actually divorce Israel and the neocons and all those things that you talk about from Jewishness: ethnicity, religion, identity,” Fuentes told Carlson.

Among his opponents on the right, Fuentes sees “Jewishness as the common denominator,” he said.

“They’re a stateless people. They’re unassimilable. They resist assimilation for thousands of years. And I think that’s a good thing. And now they have this territory in Israel. There’s a deep religious affection for the state. It’s bound up in their identity.”

“If you are a Jewish person in America, it’s sort of rational self-interest, politically, to say, ‘I am a minority. I am a religious, ethnic minority. This is not really my home. My ancestral home is in Israel,’” Fuentes said.

Despite being a major force on the (online) right wing and having once dined with the president, Fuentes and his “groyper” movement have notably turned against the MAGA movement and President Donald Trump.

In the interview, Fuentes attacked fellow antisemite and GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, whom Carlson praised in this interview, as well as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Joe Kent.

He alleged they had betrayed the core ideals of the “America First” movement, which he claims to uphold.

In the past, Fuentes also criticized Vice President JD Vance as “the end state of Trumpism, a complete fabrication who was created in a lab by Peter Thiel,” and said he will urge his supporters to “either stay home or vote for a protest candidate” if Vance runs on the Republican presidential ticket in 2028.

This had caused Carlson to attack Fuentes, suggesting he was a federal agent running a “psyop” against conservatives and calling him a “weird little gay kid in his basement.”

However, Tuesday’s interview apparently served to settle the dispute between the two, with Carlson nudging the once-radioactive Fuentes further into the conservative mainstream.

“I’m sorry I called you gay, by the way, but I’m always, I think I’m just too old or something. I’m like, ‘Why [isn’t] anyone married?’,” Carlson said.

Author Rod Dreher concluded, “The fact that Tucker Carlson, the most influential right-wing media figure in America, went from dismissing Fuentes early this year as a gay twerp in a Chicago basement, to having him on his show and blessing him with a soft interview, is a sign of the times. And not a good one.”

October 29, 2025 | 6 Comments »

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  1. Re: Fuentes (read his words carefully)…

    To quote, as I’ve done before, Richard Rose, known as “The Backwoods Buddha”:

    “Those who exhibit a bizarre state-of-mind, have engaged in bizarre sex-acts.”

  2. Carlson’s “evolution” from a critic of corruption in the Biden administration to advocacy of new-Nazi ideology signals a very sinister development in American politics. The analogy with Weimar Germany is real, In some ways, the deterioration in American political attitudes is worse than what happened in Weimar, because the Germans were reacting to a devastating defeat in a major all-out war with other great powers. The United States has suffered no such devastating defeat–only mild humiliation and setbacks in small-scale milirary campaigns in distant foreign countries that were incapable of imposing severe hardships on the USA. Unlike the Germans, America was not forced to sign a treaty admitting war guilt, and did not have to pay huge reparations that they could not afford.

  3. Carlson has turned into an evil mess.

    It would not surprise me, given his Jew hatred and Israel hatred if he were denounce Trump and become a Democrat.

    He won’t call it that – he’ll just say, “After deep discussions with my family and friends I have now become a Democrat.

    That assumes he doesn’t convert to Islam, first. That wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest – he is that shallow and stupid.