Peloni: Confidential source revealed to me that Trump ordered Bibi to make deals with Al-Jolani and Hamas, and to leave Syria, while also ending any protection for the Syrian Druze. This would amount to a complete surrender to the Muslim Brotherhood interests in the region.
Hamas continues to demand guarantees for end of war and entry of humanitarian aid
U.S. special Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, delivered a new hostage-ceasefire proposal to Israel and Hamas and is actively pressuring both sides to accept it, Axios reported.
The agreement would offer the release of half of the living and deceased hostages immediately, in exchange for a ceasefire lasting between 45 and 60 days, the release of several hundred Palestinian prisoners, including terror offenders, and the resumption of humanitarian aid into Gaza.
According to The Jerusalem Post, if it is accepted, 10 living hostages and the remains of around 10 to 15 deceased hostages would be released first.
While the updated proposal is said to be similar to the previous “Witkoff proposal” that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accepted earlier this year, the revised language more explicitly links the hostage-ceasefire agreement to a broader framework for ending the war in Gaza.
The reported changes to the proposal were made in response to concerns from Hamas that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu might resume military operations after the initial group of hostages is released.
“The new offer tries to give Hamas confidence that it’s worth moving forward with a partial deal now, because it could lead to the end of the war later on,” a source familiar with the negotiations told the Axios news outlet.
An Israeli source told Axios that the new Witkoff proposal is being discussed directly between Witkoff and the relevant parties. Witkoff has recently held direct talks with Netanyahu and Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, hile also engaging in backchannel talks with Hamas through Palestinian-American businessman Bishara Bahbah, who previously helped Witkoff secure the release of Edan Alexander.
“The talks in Doha in recent days are a facade. This is not where the real negotiations are taking place at the moment. If Hamas and Israel agree to the principles of the Witkoff proposal, the negotiations will move to Doha to discuss the details,” an Israeli official told Axios.
Netanyahu has reportedly responded positively to the proposal in principle, but has presented some conditions and reservations, demanding that any permanent ceasefire be dependent on Hamas disarming and leaving the Gaza Strip.
The Prime Minister’s Office confirmed in a statement on Sunday that the Israeli negotiation team continues the talks in Doha “to exhaust every possibility for a deal – whether according to the Witkoff framework or as part of ending the fighting, which would include the release of all hostages, the exile of Hamas terrorists, and the disarmament of the Strip.”
This was the first time Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has acknowledged the possibility that a ceasefire deal could lead to an end to the war, however, while insisting on the release of all hostages and the end of Hamas’ control over Gaza.had
Hamas leadership has not yet responded, however, it is said to be disappointed that Alexander’s release did not appear to change Washington’s position.
According to the proposal, Israel will not be required to withdraw entirely from the Gaza Strip but only from territories taken during the previous Operation “Strength and Sword,” and will continue to maintain a presence in the Netzarim and Philadelphi Corridors.
Meanwhile, CNN claimed that a senior Hamas official said it is willing to release between 7 and 9 hostages in exchange for a 60-day ceasefire and the release of 300 Palestinian prisoners. It is also demanding that Israel withdraw east of the Salah al-Din route, which runs north to south through the enclave.
Senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri denied the report, saying Hamas is only willing to release all the hostages in a single exchange, contingent on Israel ending the war.
According to Al Jazeera, Abu Zuhri said the reports are false, designed to create confusion and to put “pressure on the resistance”, allowing Israel to continue military operations.
He also posted a message to the Al-Aqsa TV Telegram channel, denying the reports.
“There is no truth to the rumors regarding the movement’s agreement to release nine Israeli prisoners in exchange for a two-month ceasefire,” Abu Zuhri wrote.
“We are ready to release the prisoners all at once, provided the occupation commits to a cessation of hostilities under international guarantees,” he continued, “and we will not hand over the occupation’s prisoners as long as it insists on continuing its aggression against Gaza indefinitely.”
A senior Israeli official told Channel 13 News that Israel is willing to discuss the end of the war “on our terms.”
“We are definitely discussing ending the war as well,” the official said, “but only on our terms, which include both exile and demilitarization of Gaza.”
Axios said Hamas has continued to reject any calls for the group to disarm and leave the Gaza Strip.
@fquigley
That’s an interesting point because until recently wind and solar were considered clean in name only, so to speak, because the actual set up and production really weren’t.
If it really advanced enough to abandon nuclear, then it is not only a mighty argument against the mullahs, as you put it, but also a mighty argument against the Saudi “peaceful” nuclear project.
@Edgar G.
I am not accusing you of lying.
BTW, I don’t lie, either.
I did make a mistake – the SU got 1/3 of the UK’s Lend Lease, it got 1/5 of the TOTAL Lend Lease:
Take a look at the table – the SU often outproduced the UK in WWII (for some reason, the UK made an enormous number of the so-called Other Vehicles (trucks?)).
I am not going to argue with you about what the UK shipped to the SU during the war but if it didn’t, the SU would still defeat Germany.
FELIX-
Feel free to call ME an ignorant buffoon. I know it’s mere pique, and untrue. But get your vicarious pleasure. I still regard you as a friend even though you slandered me unworthily and for no good reason.
I used to think that you liked Jews for their own sakes, but now I feel that you neither like nor dislike us, as being a Communist/Trotskyist, to you “all people are equal” including Jews……Also I know that you are an impeccably honest man, one of the few I’ve met during my lifetime,….a rara avis indeed.
BUT……apart from giving you and I a solid connection, Being Irish meant nothing to me…except quotas when attempting to get into the US, growing up being spat upon and cursed,
My only happiness then was in my home life with my own family and our community at large. I mean the Jewih Community.
As for the rest of Ireland….except for a handful of positively good, decent Christian people, they could all have descended to blazes by the quickest route.
The Christian Brothers, the Jesuits, the Nuns, the bishops who rules everyones’ lives, the appalling stink of parrafin oil whenever an open portal church was passed…and almost every street I needed to travel on had one or more. The gruesome statues of Jesus in agony. etc.
And the miserable and deadly history of the Jews in Christian hands……..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANd much more…too much to detail here……
Sebastien Zorn
That’s what Peloni charges me with whenever I challenge his anti global warming psycho dismissal of all science
And being Irish means a great deal or do you know no history at all…I’m barred from calling you an ignorant buffoon
Reader
You may have missed it about a week ago I argued that the last excuse Iran etc used for going for their bomb had been stripped aside
In short…the climate folks have turned against nuclear civil power as source for clean electricity
It is mighty argument against the mullahs
Nuclear is
Too slow
Too expensive
Due to china the solar and wind have left nuclear a non starter
But even MORE REVEALING is not that which itself is mighty AGAINST the mullahs
But the sad dynamic here on israpundit
READER-
As you’ve brought the UK into the “argument” here are some more documented facts on public record.
The UK sent FREE…to the USSR from 1941-1945 (just 4 years)
Actually less than 4 years because the war was winding down for at least 6-8 months before Surrender Day.
{I have mentioned “Public Record several times to indicate that you can dig up the same info yourself………If you WANT to….!!!”}
5250 tanks,
7400 planes
300 mill+ munitions
I would think that some of this HUGE amount would have been from what the US sent the UK.
120 mill pounds sterling being today over 30 BILLION.
Take into account that I never lie. I’m proud of my reputation for truth….amongst those who matter –aparrt from Israpundit members.
Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it…..!!!!
READER
Such nonsense you post when you get on one of your “hobby horses”…
Churchill did NOT start the Cold War. He made one of his pithy off-the-cuff remarks, for which he was justly famous…Ask Lady Astor…if you know what THAT means.
As a politician he naturally lied when it suited him, but his reputation was not geared that way, being more truthful and forceful than abusing truth.
He was much more than a politician; he was a first class orator
When he wrote his transcending history he was a HISTORIAN ,…NOT a politician. Are you too wrapped up in your self to understand THAT.
ALL that I posted are Churchill’s historical writings which are backed up and actually taken from official documents and have been affirmed by many other historians, in their own accounts. But he, with total access to official documents stands supreme in this category……
So stop taking your bloody crap. just to be contrary.
There is NO room for argument . Churchill wrote for posterity and being the brilliant writer of riveting prose that he was, his History will be quoted in years to come as the best account of the pre and World War years.
That is my opinion but I think -sound.
@fquigley You have a choice. Either stop engaging in ad hominem attacks or stop complaining when they are directed at you. Otherwise, why should anyone take you seriously? You come across as a disengenuous, self-serving, opportunistic hypocrite. Don’t expect any apologies.when you get your just desserts and what does being an Irishman have to do with anything on a Jewish nationalist site, even if Ireland didn’t have such an exceptionally antisemitic history and present. Only the Protestants in Northern Ireland are pro-Israel. If you want to make such a big deal about identifying as Irish, you should be apologetic.
@Edgar G.
And Churchill never lied?
He was a consummate politician, and guess what politicians do best?
He was the one who started/announced the Cold War:
https://winstonchurchill.org/resources/speeches/1946-1963-elder-statesman/the-sinews-of-peace/
He was in charge when 78% of the Mandate was chopped off to make Transjordan out of it.
While there were cases like the one you quoted, the idea that every SU soldier had to fight with a rifle pointed at his back is ludicrous – they would need almost as many commissars with rifles pointed at soldiers’ backs as the soldiers.
In reality, WWII was the war of the West against the SU and the Jews.
QUIG-
What difference whether I’m and Irishman or not I’m an avid reader ???Churchills history is deservedly one of the major works in history, and full of documentary evidence reprinted and footnoted all the way.
This post could also be applied to READER.
READER_
Hello and hope you are well.
It is NOT BS. I posted it exactly as Churchill wrote it. He spent a considerable time detailing the numbers and amounts of aid to Russia and very much the UK Losses in Ships and men in doing so.
To ease your mind, please read it as Churchill wrote it. No detail,i s ommitted.
******In another post of a few years ago I revealed the memoirs of a Ruissian military survivor of Stalingrad.
He wrote…..”The Commissars were behind us pushing us (with pistols in hand) into battle. We were totally untrained, given used uniforms often with much blood and bullet holes on them, a rifle with whatever cartridges left in it, and about 4-5 more and shoved into the front live walking over heaps of bodies of slain and wounded still alive.”******
This is the absolute truth and I never demean myself to lie.
@Edgar G.
The above is BS in the 10th degree.
The SU got one fifth as much of the amount of Lend Lease as Britain, it produced thousands of its own tanks, airplanes, etc.
They moved whole industries to the East in the beginning of the war and built new factories there.
The SU defeated the Nazi Germany but the US actually won the war.
In the US WWII is known as The Good War, believe it or not.
Laura
“neocon” is an antisemitic slur. And neocon is used against people who support Israel. ”
Sorry can you PLEASE explain. That is new to me.
Edgar
What Churchill source?
And why do you an Irishman take the word of Churchill in the matter. That mystofies me.
Sebastian
My problem with these interruptions. They are basically lies, I do not have the time to answer and the situation doesn’t allow it (time situation). They’re very miniscule issues. Have a good day!
@Edgar
It is no bother, this is what I do. Regretfully, however, there is no post by you in the trash to rescue. Sorry.
@Laura
Which episode/date?
@fquigley
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
PELONI_
I hate to bother you , being so busy, but my EDIT vanished several days ago. Is there anything you can do about it- if not, no matter.
“Russia won the War against the Nazis”…..
Weeelll????? They provided much of the manpower, but the UK and the US provided ALL the equipment and munitions, depriving themselves to their detriment, so as to keep Russia in the War. They had hundreds of ships sunk and tens of thousands of sailors drowned, in doing so.
Churchill detailed all this closely and he was correct in every word. I read these accounts just a couple of months ago.
Without them the Russians were only mere “cannon fodder”. and would NEVER have beaten the Naziz.
Laura I attack him because he hates Putin and Russia and as I said Russia won the war against the Nazis as every scholar knows. Jews cannot be free until they reckon with that utter unfairness of that and this contemporary situation which has to be set against Trotsky’s life.
The issue has not been made clear. There was one principle at stake…never ever negotiate with a terrorist. I have not seen that clearly spelt out in clear simple language and also in the context of open love for the hostages and families.
After October 7 not just Israel but the world needed different leadership. It’s a unity.
Humans are being driven into frenzy and we are in Reichstag fire territory.
The problem of Israeli leadership is Netanyahu and I say that even though the antisemites of the world are being driven into a frenzy, and the real reasons for that frenzy are still not being openly expressed. I have to always defend Bibi Vs Antisemitism but I have to do so against the great need for clear leadership. If people cannot understand that contradiction winning is not possible. When will Jews express themselves on Banderaism? Bibi and Glick are not leaders
I said he mentioned Israpundit on his radio show, referencing this article. You do know, Felix that “neocon” is an antisemitic slur. And neocon is used against people who support Israel. So, why are you using that term. I’m not sure why you would attack Mark Levin who is a big time Zionist as well as an American patriot.
Rafi-
I assume your silly superfluous comment is aimed at the obvious typos
where “uo” is meant to be ‘up”, and ”tom,” instead of “to”…
My computer has an irritating habit of bestowing gratis “m’s” at times which I always can delete– when my “EDIT” is working. It was not, still isn’t although I logged out and back in twice, Once has always been a certain remedy….until now…
So “retournons a nos oignons”……
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I’m sure you must have better things to occupy your “mind”…-if you can do so.
Rafi-
I assume your silly superfluous comment is aimed at the obvious typos
where “uo” is meant to be ‘up”, and ”tom,” instead of “to”…
My computer has an irritating habit of bestowing gratis “m’s” at times which I always can delete– when my “EDIT” is working. It was not, still isn’t although I logged out and back in twice, Once has always been a certain remedy….until now…
So “returnons a nos oignons”……
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I’m sure you must have better things to occupy your “mind”…-if you can do so.
Edgar, please use spell check prior to lecturing people. Anyway have a good day.
Rafi-
I DO wish you’d use words in their proper places. A prime example…
Trump is very much NOT “cozying uo” tom Quatar. Quatar is trying to “cozy up” to HIM.
You must have overlooked Trump’s statement that sny such “gift” is not to him peronally but to the United States … IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH??
Felix-
If you think I slandered you I apologise it was not my intention, My remarks were ejaculations of half humourous irritation.
@fquigley
No one has slandered you, and certainly not me as I have not made a single comment to you or about you. I agree with Edgar that you are wrong, so make your case as best you can without such derogatory remarks of your fellow bloggers. Meanwhile you just as much as called Laura a Banderite cheerleader, which is counterfactual. While I disagree with Laura on the topic of Ukraine, she has made the case that she disputes the Nazi element there, as difficult as that argument might be made IMO, not that she supports them.
You are an intelligent man, so make an intelligent argument. This would not include abusing your fellow bloggers by name or character assassination. By doing so, you only defeat what might be described as your otherwise interesting, though disputed, claims.
As I understand the remnants of Oslo and the remnants of Moise Dayan capitulation to islam in 1967 was the issue in the Court persecution of Netanyahu over very minor matters … All this was a key part of October 7. This has its connection to the traitorous element in the Israeli population which has a history inside of Stalinism and Social Democracy. Laura comes into this issue of leadership from her own treacherous life which consists of Russia hatred and promotion of Ukrainian Banderaism. She quotes a YouTube reactionary of exactly that Neocon ilk Mark Levin as having mentioned Israpundit on YouTube. Trump armed the Banderites Fascists with javeline rocketry used to murder Russian soldiers, men and women, yes that Russia who defeated the Nazis and saved the west from nazi rule. And Trump repeatedly has boasted of it
That should be enough. Meanwhile the editor of Israpundit Peloni joined forces with the same Edgar as here consciously to slander and target myself while all of Zionism on site turned the blind eye.
I look at israpundit without any prejudice and I see exactly it’s role which is far from being useful to Israel and Jews of the world
I am the only person now who defends Israel from the standpoint of opposing the alt right of Levin and McGregor on the one hand and the alt left also Jew haters of Harvard variety
And I go back to the lives of Lenin and Trotsky in their struggle to defend and save Jews in the1919 Ukrainian Pogroms. That’s a history that Edgar to the silence of all here has slandered.
Simple review of Trump actions lately in middle east. Cozying up to Muslim Brotherhood Qatar, who finance Hamas and run the PR department of jihad Al Jazeera.
Trump gave sanctions relief to the Jihadi who runs Damascus and is in League with Turkey’s Dictator Erodgan who has vowed to capture Jerusalem.
Trump came to a unilateral ceasefire with the Houti’s and allowed them to keep firing on Israel.
Trump has been allowing the Iranian’s to keep buying time with their nuke program while he makes vague threats to do bad things to them if they do not come to a deal on their nuke program with him. Until now the Iranians, keep talking and working towards and nuke and have called Trump’s apparent bluff of bombing them.
That is a partial list of the things that do not look for lovers of Israel and those wanting a nuke free Iran.
Trump did get Boeing a huge aircraft order from Qatar and that Qatari’s offered a massive bribe to Trump in the form of a $400 Million aircraft to fly around in. He is not happy with his old plane so he accepted the bribe.
Folks need to stop spinning and pretending what’s happening isn’t what it looks like, which is that Trump is selling out Israel to placate Qatar.
JD Vance cancelled his trip to Israel. He’s a punk as I knew all along. But ultimately he takes orders from Trump, so it is Trump’s policy to distance us from Israel.
Mark Levin mentioned Israpundit on the air and referred to this article.
LAURA-
You are wrong, jumping the gun again. A silly habit, as events always show.
Trump has a character for good, verging on enormousness, The states and officials he has to deal with almost always show enormity of characters ……….
I told you Trump was a backstabbing bastard.