Peloni: This was a very important speech. As Vance reproaches Europe’s move toward totalitarian election practices, it must be recalled that the most important qualifying aspect of any election result is transparency of an accurate election outcome. Accordingly, I look forward to seeing the US institute policies which might be exported around the world which ensure the accuracy and transparency of election results. The return of power of the people must not be limited to elections with supermajority outcomes as made the recent US election too big to rig, and even in that election, while Trump was able to cobble together an election coalition to overcome the election rigging, many of his party members were no so fortunately able. Indeed, as was made clear long before Trump’s election victory, the single issue which mattered more than any other was that the power be returned to the people, that the collective choices of the voting public would decide their future, and that consent of the governed would once again deliver the fate of America back to the hands of the American people. Consequently, it will be important for Vance’s well deserved chastising of Europe’s turn toward autocracy centered around the Leftist ideology to be followed by reforms in the US which demonstrate to the world how the power might best be returned to the people in such a way as it is clear that the power actually is in the hands of the people. It will take more than speeches, even one as impressive as this, to ply the power from the powerful and return it to the masses where it belongs.
Sundance | Feb 14, 2025
Shortly, Vice-President JD Vance is scheduled to meet with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in Germany, at the Munich Security Conference.
The meeting was originally scheduled to take place this morning, however, a member of the Ukrainian delegation confirmed that their meeting will now take place after 5 p.m. local time in Munich (approximately 11 a.m. ET). Vice-President Vance delivered remarks earlier to the Munich conference.
If you do nothing else today …. WATCH THIS SPEECH!
It is very interesting that JD Vance brought up the recent Romanian election and the nullification of the result by European courts. Vance shot an arrow directly into the heart of the hypocrisy of ‘democracy’ as defined by the European control agents (essentially EU intel). Within the remarks, Vance alludes to missing elections in Ukraine and other various anti-democratic activities that have been recently visible in the EU.
“There is no security if you are afraid of the voices of your own people,” Vance said. Continuing, “if you are running in fear of your own voters, there is nothing the American people can do to assist you.”
You can hear a pin drop as Vice President Vance, tells the EU bureaucrats exactly how their activity is undemocratic, totalitarian and against the will of the majority of the people they are supposed to represent.
This is a seismic confrontation between JD Vance, President Trump representing the true cause of liberty, and the EU elites who believe they know better than the proles underneath them with their pesky demands for freedom. Congratulations to JD Vance and President Trump for pulling no punches. This is awesome.
A very powerful speech, and powerfully delivered. In the short time allotted to him, he told European (elite) officials what’s wrong with their countries, and he told them what to do to fix their problem. You cannot ignore your constituencies and just rule over them in a dictatorial fashion, particularly when those decisions are destructive of the society. Of course, Vance admitted that the US was, (or had been), in a similar situation until Trump was elected. As he said, “There’s a new sheriff in town”, and the US is going down a new, dynamic and prosperous path. The elites may choose to ignore Vance’s tough-love advice, but if they do, sooner or later, it will be forced upon them. Europeans have been conditioned to take a lot of crap from their governments, but even they have their limits, and they will make their will known.
I was impressed how easily and confidently Vance strode into the auditorium and delivered a speech that he certainly knew would be received coldly. Good for him! If he ever assumes the presidency, he will be a force to be reckoned with, maybe even more so than Trump. Keep an eye on him.
@fquigley
Vance’s speech is pure BS and sleight of hand.
Trump rules solely with executive orders and wild pronouncements of annexing other countries, renaming international geographic locations as American, taking over other countries’ natural resources (and proposing to send American soldiers to guard them (the resources, of course) for the US).
I am waiting for the moment he will declare the “enabling statute”, dissolve the Congress and the Senate, cancel the elections, and send all his “adversaries” to labor camps in Alaska, but the armed to the teeth giant flock of sheep will enjoy watching the happenings on their giant screen TVs while munching on popcorn.
AND THIS is supposed to be THE example of freedom and democracy for the whole wide world?!?!
“None are more enslaved than those slaves who think they are free.” [this is a paraphrase, I couldn’t find the original quote from a poem on the Internet]
– Goethe Johann Wolfgang
In Europe they, at least, have way more than two parties in each parliament.
Peloni unlike you I think there are two forces driving towards Fascism in our world. There is Biden who talks piously about Global Warming but starts nearly a world war in Ukraine, and on the other trump rampaging but covering up in his rampage real scientific evidence. And I will remind you hiding of distortion of science is always close to Fascism
You write of the Vance speech in Munich
“You can hear a pin drop as Vice President Vance, tells the EU bureaucrats exactly how their activity is undemocratic, totalitarian and against the will of the majority of the people they are supposed to represent.”
That’s right. Vance exposed their Fascism.
Indeed the Europe of today heads rapidly to Fascism. But Fascism also exists in America and Vance too expressed it in his speech..
1. Greta Thunberg was correct in as a very young girl being very upset over the dangers to earth from Global Warming and it’s accompanying Climate Change. Vance made an indirect attack on Thunberg but didn’t refute the scientific evidence of Global Warming. He separated the girl upsetting people from valuable knowledge
Now that is Fascism.
Peloni furthermore calls Vance and Trump as representative of liberty.
They can never make that claim. Trump et Al have driven underground, in their Maga following, the true science of the recent Pandemic. (Along with Global Warming of course)
“This is a seismic confrontation between JD Vance, President Trump representing the true cause of liberty, and the EU elites who believe they know better than the proles underneath them with their pesky demands for freedom. Congratulations to JD Vance and President Trump for pulling no punches. This is awesome.”
Before Peloni can talk about Trump representative of Liberty show where Peloni or Trump has answered the evidence which shows that it was not at all a Lab Leak. The scientific evidence shows the very opposite
The evidence shows the virus came from bats
Where Peloni have you replied to that evidence? Just once?
Show me where you have brought forward that evidence of science against there being a lab leak in China as causing the Pandemic.
In any science you have to show and share all of the evidence and that you never in one instant did.
As if all that’s not bad enough Vance does not distinguish between Lenin and Trotsky from Stalinism but there were extreme differences between the two ideologies and practice
So entering into huge distortion of world history as Peloni and Belman on this site have done likewise (hiding the truth about historical Russia)
Vance also
did not even tell the truth on Ukraine and failed to raise the key issue in front of Lammy of the pernicious role of Britain and especially their Boris Johnson. He directly caused over a million human deaths by ending the deal which had been signed by Putin to end the war at the very beginning of the war. Vance hid that completely.
That is Lammy, Johnson and EU Fascism which Vance effectively covered up caused up to 2 million human deaths including Russia.