By Thomas T. Siler, Jr., MD, AM THINKER
The FDA is meeting on October 26th to give advice to parents on vaccination for children ages 5-12 and the Biden administration is poised to roll out vaccines for this age group for COVID-19. Is this a good idea and what information do parents need to make this decision for their kids?
I am not a pediatrician — I am a recently retired Internal Medicine doctor. I am not an anti-vaxxer. I have taken all the vaccines that have gone through the usual approval protocol for my age group. I have prescribed vaccines for adult patients for 35 years. I am a parent and have thought about the vaccination of children even though my children are grown and making their own decisions now. If I were making this decision, there are several questions that I would ask before agreeing to a COVID-19 vaccination for my child.
What is the risk of my child getting seriously ill or dying from COVID-19?
COVID-19 mortality is not the same for all ages and the average age of someone dying from COVID-19 is 79 years old. For ages 0-19, the survival rate is 99.9973%. This means that for age 0-19 there will be one death for every 37,000 infections. Sweden, population 10 million, chose not to use masks, had no lockdowns, and did not close schools and had a low rate of infection for children and no deaths. A widely circulated article in the NY Times last month claimed falsely that 900,000 children have been hospitalized since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. The actual number was 63,000, and even this number comes into question as the FDA/CDC have admitted we have a faulty PCR test for COVID-19 that has many false positives. Dr. Marty Makary and FAIRHealth analyzed health insurance claims and found that all the deaths of children at the time (about 335) were children who had chronic medical conditions and no healthy children had died from COVID-19. A rare post COVID-19 illness of excessive inflammation including myocarditis called MIS-C has affected 5,000 mostly healthy children with a mortality rate of less than 1% (46 children died)
Will my child spread the virus to teachers/me/grandma/grandpa?
An article by Benjamin Lee and William V. Raszka in Pediatrics found that in the first six months of the pandemic children were not the cause of most spread of COVID-19. The study cited above about Sweden also found that keeping the schools open did not lead to more illness in teachers during the pandemic. It seems that children spread COVID-19 less than adults.
How long does the vaccine last? Will my child need boosters?
Data coming in from England and Israel, countries with very high adult vaccination rates, shows the vaccine efficacy is wearing off over six months. It also appears the initial mRNA vaccines worked well against the original alpha strain, but is not working very well on the Delta strain, which is dominant now. Israel has already embarked on an aggressive 3rd booster for adults.
It is likely that this schedule will be the same for children.
Is the vaccine safe to take? What are the short-term side effects I might expect?
As a parent you must get all information about side effects in order to give informed consent for your child’s medical treatment. The best window into possible side effects is the VAERS system, which is a self-reporting system for vaccine side effects. Please go to this database and read about the side effects that adults have recorded as possibly being related to the vaccine. This information is not being reported by the media/FDA/CDC/our government and is essential to making a good decision for your child. For adults so far there have been 16,000 deaths and 700,000 adverse events recorded after the vaccine. These adverse events include blood clots, neurologic injury, and menstrual irregularities. The VAERS system is widely believed to underreport these adverse events by a factor of at least 10. For age 12-17 there have been 22 deaths and 21,000 adverse events reported. In the late teens and twenties, 111 deaths have occurred related to the COVID-19 vaccine. Myocarditis (inflammation of the heart) is a known side effect of the vaccines and can permanently damage the heart. One recent study showed teenage boys were four times more likely to be diagnosed with myocarditis than be hospitalized with COVID-19. Finland, Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are not giving Moderna vaccination in young adults due to concerns about myocarditis. Iceland has stopped using Moderna vaccine in all adults due to similar concerns.
What are the long-term side effects of the vaccine for my child that I could expect?
This is one of the main problems — we don’t know. mRNA vaccine have never been used on a human population before for any length of time. They are a brand-new technology made by Operation WarpSpeed to get out the vaccines quickly. The first use was last December so there has been only ten months of actual use. Vaccines approved in the usual fashion take 5-7 years of study to make sure they have long-term safety. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are used under emergency authorization only. The FDA did approve a vaccine for COVID-19 about two months ago called Comirnaty. Strangely, this vaccine is not available in the U.S., as this approved vaccine would have legal liability. As a parent you also need to be aware that if your child does have a reaction to one of these experimental vaccines, there will be no legal recourse. Our government has protected the pharmaceutical companies from any legal liability from these experimental vaccines under the PREP act.
In my opinion, the government, mainstream media, and pharmaceutical companies have overestimated the danger of COVID-19 infection in children inducing fear and underreported the risks of the vaccines. I would not give these new mRNA vaccines to my healthy child because:
1) The risk of serious health problems from COVID-19 infection in healthy children is very low.
2) If your child is chronically ill, obese, diabetic, immuno-compromised consider using the vaccine.
3) There can be serious short term side effects in children from the vaccine. Several countries have stopped using some of these vaccines in children.
4) The vaccines are less effective against the now dominant Delta strain.
5) The vaccine effect wears off in months and my child will likely have boosters once or twice a year increasing the risk of side effects.
6) The long-term side effects are not known and with many years of life left, children may have long term problems not even known now.
A COVID vaccination involves a very different decision than ‘does my child need a tetanus shot or an MMR to go to school.’ Please be assertive and get a second and third opinion and ask your provider questions.
@Bear
They knew they wouldn’t find enough seriously ill children to compare, so they chose to be creative and create a new standard to ‘infer’ results.
https://www.fda.gov/media/153447/download
Vaccine efficacy had previously been stipulated by the FDA to demonstrate a reduction in disease outcome between testing and placebo groups. This new methodology “inferred by immunobridging” assumes an outcome based on antibody levels, because they knew the number of sick children would be very difficult to find. As it turned out, from 2200 children during the height of the summer Delta outbreak in the US, they had only 19 develop mild disease. The fact that this would likely not have been a issue in the 12-25 age group should be recognized as a significant point of interest which is why the immunobridging was not employed in the other trials.
They changed the standard of testing because the shareholders have no oversight and all the control to do so, and they needed some way to explain there was some benefit since they knew the children in the study would demonstrate no serious illness, again because children don’t become seriously ill.
Employing data in an alternate study, which used subjects of a completely different age group, is a bizarre standard of science that assumes a direct relationship between the antibody levels in a young child and the antibody levels of both children over twelve and adults under 26, in order to project a number of hospitalized children and dead children when no single child demonstrated any serious illness in the current study.
If they don’t have enough children becoming ill enough to draw a conclusion from the drug study, how is there a emergency warranting an emergency drug authorization? How can they claim that vaccinating any child will help keep them out of the hospital based on a study where not one child in the tested or placebo groups demonstrated enough illness to become hospitalized – not one.
Using a group of 19 subjects to draw any conclusion is ridiculous. The data set is absurdly small. It is a ridiculously low number of subject to base inoculating millions of children based on a total of 19. Add to this the missing 4.9% of the case subjects where the only affected children number fewer than 20 and the missing 4.9% data incorporates 70 children exclusively from the vaccinated group – which could wildly shift the data and even more than reverse the findings.
Based on these non-finding findings, they will extrapolate their desire to vaccinate these children into reality and inoculate nearly 30million children(just in the US) with a drug compound that increases myocarditis, blood clots, heart attacks, dysmenorrhea, disabling disease, neurological conditions of numeral types, and death. Of all these and numerous other serious adverse effects, the FDA only analyzed myocarditis serious enough to derive a cost to the vaccination project and even with just this single adverse effect, the consequence is tragically disproportionate. They concluded that this effect will result in ~3000 cases of myocarditis(106x28million children). Myocarditis causes 1/5 cases to die within the year, and 1/2 to die within 5 years. So, 1500 will die before these children reach adulthood, some by the time they are 10yrs old. The rest will live with an scarred heart tissue making them candidates for sudden death without warning, or progressive heart disease. This is a steep price to pay when only 158 children have died in this age group in 22months, and these were sick children, already in the high-risk group.
Lastly, it has been well established that vaccine severe adverse effects are present ~4X in the Covid recovered. Children often have no symptoms or very mild symptoms of Covid and will often not know their of their Covid recovered status. With these facts in mind, there was no testing provision provided to analyze the effects of the vaccine on children previously infected with Covid. Nor is there likely to be any preclusion to test prior to inoculation. This could have a very serious outcome given the tender age of this group who could experience even higher levels of such adverse effects – recall myocarditis is much more present in the teenagers…could it not be even more so in the younger set? It seems a fair question, even as the answer will not be known, as Dr. Rubin noted, “until we start giving it”.
Hi, Reader.
I don’t know too many people who lived under the Tsar (one former Russian Army officer whom I met in hospital); but my children have both had contemporary Russian friends who grew up in the USSR. They are very savvy about living in controlled societies.
Concerning the current jab assaults on US children, it’s also good to look into the character of the perpetrator, Anthony Fauci:
https://banned.video/watch?id=617b0b4f8fc2531ff4a324c0
@Michael S
That was some of it but the general noncompliance with the governmental decrees there goes back as far as the times of the czars.
Plus, they don’t go for the baits like “If you don’t vaccinate, you can’t go to restaurants”, they just quit going to restaurants rather than vaccinate, so now the government is tightening the screws in other ways.
I think it will be interesting to watch what happens.
Hi, Reader.
People in the former Soviet Bloc have been blessed with a hard-earned mistrust of the government.
The study referenced showed the following for Effectiveness:
It seems that the decisive factor in whether to be vaccinated or not is not personal research but the culture and the level of trust in the government.
For example, less than 1/3 of the residents of the Russian federation have been vaccinated:
https://www.rt.com/russia/537965-russia-announces-covid-holidays/
Regarding the jabbing of toddlers, I have been working an analysis of the laughable toddler trial used to prove “safe and effective” for toddlers which has violated every norm of scientific research, even more so than the previous trial last fall. In doing so I found a laudable review which is a very thorough. The author is a statistician who conducts risk-benefit analyses routinely based on scientific research. There is no basis for the vaccination of these children, no benefit at all and only serious risks. There was no investigation to validate that children’s innate immune system will not be damaged by this current experiment, but, as the esteemed Dr. Rubin noted “We’re never gonna learn about how safe the vaccine is until we start giving it. That’s just the way it goes.”
Here is the link to the review on the toddler study:
https://tobyrogers.substack.com/p/ten-red-flags-in-the-fdas-risk-benefit
Please read it.
@Bear
I think Dr. Rubin expressed the faith in the “safe and effective” mantra best when he stated that
Dr. Rubin is the Editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, perhaps the premiere of medical journals in the world. He is also a voting member on VRBPAC. His cavalier comment portrays less confidence in the safety of these compounds for children, and almost an arbitrary nonchalance for the fact that, as his words acknowledged, we don’t know anything about safety, and that is because the experiment is not yet complete. It should also be noted that Dr. Rubin voted to find out if the shots are safe for children by injecting them. His words are reprehensible, but revealing.
Peloni,
Thank you again, for all your wonderful and helpful work.
In the study I referenced in my previous comment the need for children to be vaccinated was established by the following facts:
When reading the study the Pfizer vaccine proved safe and effective
I urge anyone with an open mind on vaccines to read the study. https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/vaccines-for-5-11-year-olds-fda-meeting
@Michael
The massive immune effect is likely due to many things. The purpose of the injection was presumably to introduce the self-asembling spike factories into the upper arm muscle cells, where they would produce spike on the outside of these cells and the immune system would respond, kill the infected cells and create an immune memory and protection from the virus. This would result in a focused immune response.
But we know that the spike break loose from the muscle cells, making their way to many of the body’s tissues and also attach to the vascular walls. Additionally, upto 75% of the vaccine can make its way throughout the body. So this alone would cause a broad, systemic vascular reaction. But the story of the spike is only one part of this massive immune response.
The lipid nanoparticle envelop includes a compound called SM-102 which is lethal to humans and animals and has been labeled not to be used in humans or animals outside of an laboratory setting due to its toxic effects. The Lipid nanoparticle can make its way throughout the body and invade any tissue, including the brain and eye. In addition to this PEG is included in the adjuvant of the vaccine(it’s the part that intentionally elicits an immune response). Due to the redaction of the details on the vaccine’s contents, we don’t know what else is intentionally included in the vaccines. Beyond this, though, due to the CURES Act, the good manufacturing practices were waived and significant impurities(presumably) have made their way into the vaccines, which caused Japan to halt their use of Moderna following 3 deaths associated with these ‘impure’ vaccines.
Additional evidence of either impurities or components of the vaccines have been revealed in microscopic analysis of the vaccines, by Dr. Kevin McKernan, Dr. Zandre Botha, Dr. Carrie Madej and their findings have been confirmed by similar structures being located in the autopsies of people who have been confirmed to have died from the vaccines which were conducted by Dr. Peter Schirmacher, a world reknowned pathologist. So, Sorry for the information overload, but the source of the inflammation is likely attributable to all of these components and factors, and probably some of the redacted components of which we are quite oblvivious, currently.
extensive data and report click on link. Information and I see why all but one of the advisory board voted yes and the one hold out abstained.
Vaccine seems safe and effective
Thank you for your response, Peloni. The current problem seems to center around:
“Yet, there seems to be no recognition of the rest of the virus during breakthrough cases beyond the jabbed-antibodies. This is quite significantly different in the unjabbed people who develop their strongest response to the N-protein which produces a sterilizing response, killing the virus quite readily on re-exposure.”
If I read correctly, this may have to do with:
“These TH2 cells are vital to creating a new adaptive response, but it is believed that they may have been desensitized by the jabs massive immune response,”
Coupled with Original Antigenic Sin, this seems to be something of a
perfect storm.” About the “massive immune response”, is this possibly exacerbated by the continuing production of spike proteins in the genetically altered mitochondria?
55 years ago, Americans were warned not to experiment with dangerous drugs. Now, they are instead mandated to experiment. This is almost unbelievable, and demonstrates how quickly sanity and freedom have been gouged out of the fabric of our society.
“Israeli doctors: Vaccinate the children
‘Coronavirus infections can cause more difficult complications than the vaccine,’ Health Min. Director General Prof. Nachman Ash says.
Arutz Sheva Staff , Oct 27 , 2021 1:27 PM”
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/315806
@Peloni you owe me no apology. I was quoting a pediatrician who has been studying the vaccination trials. He unlike you believes that the children should be vaccinated.
@Bear
To answer this honestly, someone would have to actually gain access to the medical records and verify each case as Dr. Mackary did with children – a simply remarkable feat, which no one will pursue for the adult population. But I think we can make an honest assumption that the adults who died were not all sick, per se, as the children were.
Obesity is a huge(no pun intended) target for Covid, and even among the healthy, the virus targets those who have low Vit. D(almost everyone with <17 dies), and those who have a low HDL/LDL ratio(cholesterol ratio) and high triglycerides. Many who have these pre disposing factors will not be appear to be ill, but their reduced health make them easy prey for the virus. So, though I really don't know the level of non-ill adults who die from Covid, I am certain there are many. It is a brutal disease, but I believe many of the Covid deaths among vaccinated and unvaccinated could be prevented if people would simply increase their Vit D levels to 50-60. Almost everyone with low levels die and almost everyone with high levels survive. The immune system requires Vit D to function properly. The Vit D level, which take time to increase are critical for surviving this disease.
By the way, I owe you an apology on the 158 figure of children 5-12 you quoted. You were quite correct, the higher number i cited included children 2-18, so forgive my error.
@Peloni, thanks for the information about the preexisting conditions of children that died. Question those who were vaccinated (adults) and died did they also have preexisting conditions.
@Bear
I think such balance is important to any conversation and I appreciate your input, as always. But the 150 number was outdated in June when there were ~335 children who had died from Covid. Marty Makary from John-Hopkins reviewed nearly 50K children diagnosed with Covid at the time and found that everyone of these children were suffering from other comorbidities, ie they were sick children and therefore among the highest cohort of concern to the disease, like the elderly and the obese. This is well established to be distinguished from other children whose strong innate immunity serves them well at protecting them from the virus. Regadless of Pfizer’s claims of massive deaths in the future, there is no basis for this.
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It has been conjectured recently that the natural immunity will last 18months, which was meant to imply that it will fail after 18months, but there is no reason to believe that the immunity will be less responsive than that of SARS from nearly 20yrs ago, which is still protective today. And here is the problem described in the statement you shared. If the response by the jabbed people can’t recognize the whole virus as foreign following the jab, how will they be protected when their one trick pony fails to protect against a completely mutated spike in the coming months or years. To rephrase that, if the jabbed-immunity doesn’t protect against the mutated virus, and the immune system is either broken or doesn’t recognize the virus as something new, how will we reprogram the immune system to respond.
It’s nice that Pfizer sees this as a new basis to extend their control on society and the world’s finances, but have they demonstrated that they can reprogram their one trick pony with a new jab? They can’t use animals to do it because the animals die from the vaccines – rats died in days and monkeys developed Spongiform encephalopathy in weeks. So, yes, we have a very big question for those brave enough, stupid enough, lucky enough or unfortunate enough to have a vaccine-limited immunity, and that question is: Can the vaccine experiment, having failed, start over from scratch with a pre-recorded immune response in place?
Under routine circumstances, this would be a concerning topic, but the problem is bigger than even this because the T-helper2(TH2) cells that would take part in achieving this feat, even if it were achievable which is questionable, have been affected in some degree by the jabs. These TH2 cells are vital to creating a new adaptive response, but it is believed that they may have been desensitized by the jabs massive immune response, which would explain why the jabbed produce an alternate antibody response to the virus on re-exposure. If this is true, it is a very unfortunate development and will result in the Original Antibody Sin being perpetuated regardless of the content of the booster jabs because no TH2 means no new adaptive immune response. But if the TH2 become active again, the hurdle of Original Antigenic Sin is still present to be overcome. It is very much a case of being caught between unresponsive TH2 cells and the Original Antigenic Sin. The boosters must overcome both of these very serious issues to be successful.
To add a balance to all this, we do not know how many of the jabbed have had a normal or no response to the virus during the breakthrough cases. We wouldn’t even know about any of this if the British hadn’t quietly placed it in their report. And the US and Israel have made no comment, to my knowledge, on this vital issue. So, much depends on the data, but Original Antigenic Sin is a very great concern, as is the TH2 senescence(non-responding).
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@Michael
I wrote on Original Antigenic Sin a couple of days ago relating to the British antibody data. This, along with Antibody Dependent Enhancement and other topics, have always been a concern for the public when the public was to become the lab rats for these experimental vaccines. As Dr. Fleming noted over six months ago, the best future for the lab rats is to be counted in the placebo group.
Original Antigenic Sin is a real issue. Memory is the underlying basis for the adaptive immunity, but memory is among the problems with very focused “vaccines” which generate their own escape variants. The immunity that is presented by our immune systems is very strong. Following the re-exposure of a virus, our immune system reacts with a pre-recorded immune response based on an immune-memory to the previously recognized virus that initialized the immune memory. This process is not altered when a tiny piece of the virus is used to create this pre-recorded immune response. But upon first exposure to the whole virus by the jabbed, the rest of the virus, beyond the spike, should be recognized as new and it should produce a separate immune response similar to the unjabbed people, because the jabbed have never been exposed to the envelop, nucleocapsid or membrane proteins before. The problem is that they produce little to no such response as described by the British Surveillance reports. So if the immune response to the mutated Spike fails to be protective, the virus will run its routine course, but without an appropriate immune response. Remember, the distinctions between these variants is only a few mutations, but the jabbed-immunity is only focused at the tiny spike and these few mutations can, thereby, defeat the entire process.
Furthermore, when the antibodies are the prevailing basis of attack by the jabbed people, it causes an increased mutation pressure at the site of their focused attack, the tiny spike protein. As the virus responds by way of mutations, the immunity to the mutated spike will become non-protective. The jabbed people have an pre-recorded response to the virus but only at the spike, so as these variants alter their spike, the jabbed should be able to mount a response to the other parts of the virus,
ie the N, M, and E proteins. Yet, there seems to be no recognition of the rest of the virus during breakthrough cases beyond the jabbed-antibodies. This is quite significantly different in the unjabbed people who develop their strongest response to the N-protein which produces a sterilizing response, killing the virus quite readily on re-exposure.
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Just so the discussion has two sides:
150 Children have died in the USA from Covid, so it should not be ignored. Hopefully the vaccine is safe!!! It is being given to children in 10 micrograms compared to adults who receive 30 micrograms. Here is what Pfizer said about it.
Full article https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-announce-positive-topline-results
Reader: “To test how safe it is.”
Good point.
Peloni: I found the following, surfing the web. Please give it a quick look and get back to me.
https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/more-on-original-antigenic-sin-and
The conclusion was interesting:
“Once a response has been established, it is unlikely that repeat boosting will be able to change its scope, meaning that balanced responses against the four virus serotypes will need to be established with the first vaccine dose.
“The danger is that immunity to one strain alone may lead to permanently impaired immune response to the three other serotypes, causing worse and longer illness.”
@peloni
Well, then we can assume that Dr. Ruben is going to give the vaccine to his children and grandchildren, right?
To test how safe it is.
Abortion, perverted class cirricula, mask and “vax” mandates… all directed against children — the helpless, the trusting, the ones we’re charged by God and Nature to protect… This will not end well, for those who have done this.
So they voted 17-0 with 1 abstention to authorize the jabs to children. This is sick. I would like to point out a comment by one of the voting members on this panel, Dr. Ruben:
So I guess we will soon learn how safe it is after we inject several million immature children with it.
Not enough to experiment on the entire adult and teenage public. We will now employ child experimentation to the list. This is unconscionable.