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April 16, 2020 | 9,219 Comments »

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  1. Sebastien Zorn

    Now all of a sudden it’s a Ukrainian attack. ? I guess that’s more useful.

    Yes that’s the contention being made with some very big evidence including by Ted and Peloni

    Do you want to make your own position in support of Nazis very clear?

    Please be clear. This is as serious as it gets.

  2. PELONI_

    Yes exactly. That’s what my post explicitly implied. In fact I actually posted the other day that they should carpet bomb flattening everything from the North down ( for about the tenth time) which would give the Gazans time to get out into the Philadelphia Corridor.

    But on looking up the details of the Corridor I saw that although 14 K long, it was only a few hundred metres wide, so I suggested going on into the Sinai.

  3. Edgar

    This is a good time for the IDF if they have any common sense-which is debatable- to blast them to smithereens, right ,left and centre.

    They need to move on to Rafah, seize the philadelphia corridor, and end this stand off. They are making use of the time with the operations in central Gaza, but the destruction of the remaining brigades is both essential and useful to getting the hostages out. Like a bandaid, better to give one big pull than simply talking about doing it.

  4. SEB-

    You don’t have to worry about the 700 terrorists to be freed.

    Hamas turned the whole deal down because they wanted a hell of a lot more including the end of the War and the return of the Gazans to their homes and much more..

    This is a good time for the IDF if they have any common sense-which is debatable- to blast them to smithereens, right ,left and centre.

  5. The Israelis were also enjoying a concert or just sleeping in their homes when they were slaughtered and kidnapped. Most of the reaction around the world to Israel’s tragedy and suffering was to express glee followed by blaming and demonizing the Israelis and demanding they reward those butchers with the creation of an adjacent terror state. So, I have no empathy or sympathy whatsoever for hamas’ ally Russia. The Israelis suffered 10x the fatalities. I wonder if the world is going to demand Russia not respond or demand the creation of an isis state. I see the attack as schadenfreude for Russia’s support of hamas.

  6. @Felix What on earth is this former CIA spook blathering about? I stopped listening after a couple of minutes. No information reported? Ukraine? First, the headline was that it was an Islamist attack and the exact number of people killed. Now, it is reported they have four suspects in custody. and that they are from ISIS. I don’t understand this propensity people have for interviewing spies and former spies. Spinning lies and half-truths is their profession! They are all con artists.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68652380

    The big question nobody has tried to answer is, why would ISIS attack Russia?

  7. Israel to release over 700 terrorists, including murderers, in Gaza deal – report
    The terrorists agreed upon for release by Israel reportedly include hundreds who are serving life sentences for murdering Israelis in terror attacks. [for 40 hostages and a ceasefire]
    By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
    MARCH 24, 2024 20:02
    Updated: MARCH 24, 2024 21:03

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-793512

    However, if this is a joke, it’s one in very poor taste and I’m not laughing.

  8. @Ted

    “Israel’s growing lure for Canadians: Some immigrate because of the war, others in spite of it”

    “…According to NBN, post-Oct. 7 immigrants’ motivations to move to Israel had little to do with rising antisemitism, and much to do with ideology and practicality…

    …Since Oct. 7, 524 Canadians have opened Aliyah applications, versus 187 in the last quarter of 2022. Nearly 900 Canadians indicated they intend to make Aliyah in 2024.

    In all, 3,709 applicants plan to immigrate from North America — a 142 per cent increase over last year.

    Data from NBN application essays highlights that 50 per cent of North Americans who made Aliyah since Oct. 7 were motivated by Zionism, whereas only six per cent were driven by antisemitism. Accordingly, they are coming in spite of, and even because of, the war.

    “Those 50 per cent are cultural or religious Zionists and want to be part of the Jewish story, Jewish history, and to live in their homeland,” says Rosenberg. “Ninety-nine per cent of people who make Aliyah have previously spent a few months in Israel as residents, students, or reservists. They’ve already had a taste of Israeli society and want to belong to it.”

    Rosenberg says that many who start an Aliyah application instinctively as a reaction to rising antisemitism often need to conduct some research into everyday life in Israel and spend time living there.

    The other 44 per cent of North Americans who move to Israel, says Rosenberg, cite practical reasons: they have family there, wish to study there, or are in search of employment opportunities, for example.

    “It doesn’t mean those 44 per cent lack an ideology,” he says. “Those who choose to move here may be ideological, but they have also determined that it is practical and realistic for them financially and life-stage-wise to actually make the move.”

    Peter Halpern fulfilled his Aliyah dream at age 73. The retired banker and teacher relocated to Haifa on Dec. 28, from London, Ont. Encouraged by his two sons who live in Taiwan and New York, Halpern had zero qualms about relocating alone during the war…”

    https://nationalpost.com/news/israels-growing-lure-for-canadians-some-immigrate-because-of-the-war-others-in-spite-of-it

  9. Small world
    6 months ago I had to go to the hosp emergency. At the end of the day I met with the doctor in charge of me and he said he just made aiyah from Montreal.

    More recenly I again had to go to the emergency and the first dctor I met told me he mad aliyah from Montreal 2 years before me.

    A few days later before leaving the hosp, I met a young occupational therapist. It turned out she was the grand daughter of my Rabbi in Toronto for 20 years before he made aliya.

  10. SEB-
    I see you’re cribbing from Wiki again.Tut tut. I knew you would .

    But I don’t know why you went to the trouble of detailing it, since it must have been clear to you that I know all about Billy Bunter, Greyfriars etc.

    I was getting the Magnet weekly since age 5 until it stopped because of paper shortage . I also got the Wizard, the Gem, Hotspur, and a couple of others like the Triumph, Boy’s Own. Hamilton wrote most of each of those mags and many more.. .
    He’ supposed to have been the most prolific writer in history, according to how many stories under dozens of names that he used.

    I added the” Hee Hee Hee” for you personal edification and knowing you’d look it up, also for enlarging your education.

    I’m also a member of the Society which carries nearly every Magnet, Gem and many other of schools mags.It’s called Friardale.

    Look it up . If you haven’t read any Magnets you’ll get a bit of an education about pre-WW2 English boarding Public Schools just a bit exaggerated.

    I’ve actually read nearly all the Magnets from 1908 to 1940 with a few missing, in the Friardale list. I even recall having read some of them as a child.

    **** Many Friardale members are adults of mature years. Some of them are also collectors. In fact I have a friend, a professor of Pediatrics, English, presently working in Quatar, who has every Magnet available , as well as some other boys mags dating from 1906.
    He’s as much a Charles Hamilton/Bunter enthusias/collector as is Felix on Trotsky.

  11. @Edgar “…William George Bunter is a fictional schoolboy created by Charles Hamilton using the pen name Frank Richards. He features in stories set at Greyfriars School, a fictional English public school in Kent, originally published in the boys’ weekly story paper The Magnet from 1908 to 1940. The character has appeared in novels, on television, in stage plays and in comic strips.

    He is in the Lower Fourth form of Greyfriars School, known as the Remove, whose members are 14–15 years of age. Time is frozen in the Greyfriars stories; although the reader sees the passing of the seasons, the characters’ ages do not change and they remain in the same year groups. Originally a minor character, Bunter’s role was expanded over the years with his antics being heavily used in the stories for comic relief and to advance the plots.

    Bunter’s defining characteristics are his naive greed, self-indulgence, and overweight appearance.[2] He is in many respects an obnoxious anti-hero. Besides his gluttony, he is obtuse, lazy, racist, nosy, deceitful, pompous, and conceited, but he is blissfully unaware of his defects. In his own mind, he is a handsome, talented, and naturally aristocratic young man surrounded by uncouth “beasts”. His vices are offset by several redeeming features, including a sporadic but genuine courage in aid of others; his ability to be generous during his rare occasions of prosperity; and above all his very real love and concern for his mother. All these, along with Bunter’s irrepressible optimism, and his comically transparent untruthfulness and inept attempts to conceal his antics from his schoolmasters and schoolfellows, combine to make the character highly entertaining, though hardly sympathetic….”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Bunter

    And this would be whom, pray tell?

  12. SEB-

    Regardless of reputed origin, the term “Dogsbody”, in my milieu, was used in a distinctly pejorative manner to denote offensive, obnoxious persons of dubious ancestry, morals and behaviour.

    Mokey fills the bill admirably, a knock- kneed, baggy, pot-bellied, beaky nosed, elderly, pseudo-Christian religious fanatic, who spouts like an endless gramophone, with a twisty mentality. (and more)….!

  13. @Edgar fascinating response. Thank you.

    People also ask
    Where does the phrase dogsbody come from?
    The Royal Navy used dried peas boiled in a bag (pease pudding) as one of their staple foods circa the early 19th century. Sailors nicknamed this item “dog’s body”. In the early 20th century, junior officers and midshipmen who performed jobs that more senior officers did not want to do began to be called “dogsbodies”.People also ask

    Dogsbody – Wikipedia

  14. Miko-

    Your spelling maybe isn’t good but that’s not my fault. And cartoons.. I outgrew them by the time I was 5-6 years old, and here you are about 80++, creaky knees, keeping yourself alive with animal parasite paste and reading cartoons. My heavens. Second childhood is not an old Wives’ Tale as I thought. It’s here and now with you. Mokey.

    Ugh….!!

    Go away and crap on your own doorstep. Politely, just bugger off. I can understand why you’re the guy that people love to hate. But now me, I tolerate you. I even bother to read your asinine post to me.

    ***I made a hobby horse for my kids, when we were in Israel, and the stupid face I painted on, was what they liked best. They named it “Mokey”. So maybe there’s hope for you…..yet.***

  15. Edgar, I’ll spell it out for you. The cartoon I linked to was of a 1973 comic called “Freddy”. Freddy was a little boy — a lot like you behave at times. I this cartoon, he’s doing an ad hoc study on a 3-year-old friend, Ernest, who is learning the basics of growing up.

    Do I have to spell out why I posted it? I hope not — I am confident of better things from you.

  16. Eastern Europe has the moral clarity that western Europe completely lacks. Eastern Europeans weren’t stupid enough to allow muslims in.

    Romanian Parliament Declares Israel’s Independence Day a National Holiday
    By David Israel – 11 Adar II 5784 – March 21, 2024 0

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/global/europe/eastern-europe/romanian-parliament-declares-israels-independence-day-a-national-holiday/2024/03/21/

    Pro-Israel NATO official is Romania’s leading presidential candidate
    NATO Deputy Secretary-General, Mircea Geoana, is the leading candidate for president of Romania in next year’s elections. Geoana has strong ties with Israel and a Jewish-American son-in-law.

  17. Mikey-
    Hi yourself -if you don’t know the normal salutation of “hello”.

    Please don’t bother sending me Wiki crap, I never look at it whatever it is. Probably some self written validation of your recent nonsense. I never heard of Freddie Baldwin, don’t want to know him anyway. Maybe another “Jesus Freak” like yourself.

  18. Romanian Parliament Declares Israel’s Independence Day a National Holiday
    By David Israel – 11 Adar II 5784 – March 21, 2024 0

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/global/europe/eastern-europe/romanian-parliament-declares-israels-independence-day-a-national-holiday/2024/03/21/

    Pro-Israel NATO official is Romania’s leading presidential candidate
    NATO Deputy Secretary-General, Mircea Geoana, is the leading candidate for president of Romania in next year’s elections. Geoana has strong ties with Israel and a Jewish-American son-in-law.

    By ZVIKA KLEIN
    NOVEMBER 30, 2023 18:19

    https://www.jpost.com/international/article-775931

  19. Blackrock gets to feel the pinch:

    The Texas Permanent School Fund (PSF) opted on Tuesday to terminate an $8.5 billion investment with BlackRock Inc., with one official citing the financial asset manager’s support of environmental, social, and governance (ESG) proposals.

    State Board of Education Chairman Aaron Kinsey said in a statement that PSF’s “relationship with BlackRock was not in compliance” with legislation enacted in 2021 that “prohibits state investment in companies like BlackRock that boycott energy companies.”

    PSF “has a fiduciary duty to protect Texas schools by safeguarding and growing the approximately $1 billion in annual oil and gas royalties managed by the Texas General Land Office,” Kinsey said, adding that terminating BlackRock’s contract “ensures PSF’s full compliance with Texas law.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/texas-schools-fund-moves-to-pull-8-5-billion-contract-with-blackrock

    This is major news. Between them, Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street essentially control the world, using money saved away by American workers. It’s no small matter, for those workers to stand up to this abuse. Texas is doing it.

  20. Good Shabbos, Peloni

    Being a goy, of course, I have my own ideas about what it is to “rest” than observant Jews do. For me, just being able to post messages while you’re not posting back, is “restful” enough. So now, I will take a deep, restful breath and go at it.

    I will start with the matter of biased media, a subject we’re apparently on different pages about. You seem to have an intense hatred of the British media, British Intelligence and all things British. So does Putin, of course, and so did Hitler.

    It is true, that the British people, from the PM to the street urchins, have a characteristic set of biases. Americans have theirs as well, Bidenites have theirs, Vladimir Putin has his, the Russian people keep theirs to themselves as do the Chinese people, and the Communist Chinese leaders, which is to say, the person of Xi Jinping, have theirs. Here is an example of the latter, from this morning’s headline:

    China: Biden, Trump Nominations Show American Democracy Has ‘Failed’
    Frances Martel 14 Mar 2024
    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/03/14/china-biden-trump-nominations-show-american-democracy-failed/

    “China’s state-run Global Times newspaper predictably observed the occasion of President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump formally cementing the nominations to their respective parties on Wednesday by lamenting that both are “unpopular” candidates and proof that American democracy has “failed to express or address issues of public concern.””

    There you have it, the “truth”, according to the chief news organ of the second-largest country on earth. Is it biased? Yes, but no more than Michael S and Peloni are biased. Xi Jinping has his opinion, and we have ours: the British, meanwhile, have theirs, and Denys Davydov has his own.

    Of course, Xi seems to believe that overwhelmingly winning a string of primary elections in the US proves that a candidate is “unpopular”. Whatever one’s bias is, we all reserve our own opinions as to whether that is “truthful” or not. Like Trump and like Xi, your “friend of Israel”, Vladimir Putin is also in the process of being elected by the Russian People. The foregone conclusion is that he will win handily, surpassing all surviving competitors by incredible margins. The Putin Press will laud this as a great victory; the Moscow Times (which is the voice of the Opposition) will have a somewhat different opinion, the Chinese and British will have their own, Denys will have his Biden and the Americans will each have theirs, and you and I will have our own.

    So, we’re all biased — and all strongly biased, I might add. We all, also, differ in our respective freedom to express our bias. In this, I truly erred, in bringing up the matter. For the sake of clarity, what I wanted to convey was the fact that Denys Davydov tends to post observations that are his own, as an observer who closely follows the events he is reporting on; and that he doesn’t parrot the opinions of MI5, of Victoria Nuland or of Adolf Hitler.

    The upshot of all this, is that one ought to be able to take what Denys says in it’s own right.

  21. I think it’s interesting, about Bob Dylan. All this talking AT one another that I’ve seen here and elsewhere, but nobody listening. I remembered it from Bob’s song, but had to look it up to see the context. Here it is:

    Dylan’s fear of a nuclear apocalypse during the Cuban Missle Crisis inspired the writing of this song:

    Every line in it is actually the start of a whole song. But when I wrote it, I thought I wouldn’t have enough time alive to write all those songs, so I put all I could into this one.”

    https://genius.com/Bob-dylan-a-hard-rains-a-gonna-fall-lyrics

    Every line is a separate song, so there IS no context; except that all the lines are connected by the looming cloud of a nuclear war.

    That’s what we’re looking at today. Denys mentioned Emmanuel Macron, and showdown with Vladimir Putin. Vlad is so full of himself, he doesn’t realize that other leaders beside himself need to be taken seriously. Let’s see how just France matches up to Russia (and remember, France is just one of several powerful countries in NATO):

    Russia:
    Population: 144,444,359
    Gross domestic product: US$ 2.240 trillion (2022)
    Nuclear weapons:1,674 deployed

    France:
    Population: 64,756,584
    Gross domestic product: US$ 2.779 trillion (2022)
    Nuclear weapons: 280 deployed

    Considering that 280 nukes are enough to destroy Russia’s main manufacturing and population centers, Putin ought to take Macron seriously. and make some serious moves toward standing down. If not, I think we will have enough material for Bob Dylan to write another song.

  22. Hi, Peloni

    We seem to be having an awfully difficult time communicating. You said,

    No, I said no such thing. I simply agreed with you that Everyone gives a more unbiased picture of the situation in Ukraine than British intelligence

    Go back and check. I said nothing about “everyone” — you were first to comment on them. I compared British Intelligence (which I believe sets the agenda for the Times) with Denys Davydov, not “everyone” After you brought up that completely different subject, I provided you a map showing the state of press freedom of “everyone”.

    I certainly didn’t say “everyone”, or even “a significant part of the world”, was more biased than the mainstream British media — or, for all any of us know, their intelligence services.

    Concerning Russian media, you’re playing your usual shill / ardent sympathizer game. I think you would be apologizing for Vladimir Putin (who effectively IS the source of the Russian press) were he discovered to be the Devil himself. Please don’t waste my time with this. You know my estimation of the man, and I know yours. If you could ever crawl out of that pit you’ve dug for yourself, we might have a fruitful conversation. (Alas!) The map, or one identical to it, is sourced, so far as I know, on Wikipedia; or if you want, you can research another on the subject. I have never seen Russia ranked on the side of press freedom or individual freedom by anyone. Putin is an absolute dictator, and you know this full well.

    BTW, you left Denys completely out of the discussion, when he was obviously the center of it. (You must’ve had something distracting you). Denys, whom by now I hope you can see, is less biased, in general, concerning the war effort than the British, made comments about French President Macron; calling Putin’s bluff, about his attempt to find common ground with Chancellor Scholz, about Medvedev’s ridiculous, absolute demands of the Ukrainians, about his and Putin’s objective of wiping Ukraine completely off the map. All of these are interesting subjects, if readers like you could be open-minded enough to give Denys the time of day.

    “And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?
    And what did you hear, my darling young one?
    I heard the sound of a thunder that roared out a warning
    I heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
    I heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazing
    I heard ten-thousand whispering and nobody listening
    I heard one person starve, I heard many people laughing
    I heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
    I heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley

    “[Refrain]
    And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
    It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall”

    https://genius.com/Bob-dylan-a-hard-rains-a-gonna-fall-lyrics

  23. @Michael

    You DID voice an opinion on that, implying that while British intelligence is engaged in deceiving people …, the Russians and others do not.

    No, I said no such thing. I simply agreed with you that

    Everyone gives a more unbiased picture of the situation in Ukraine than British intelligence

    Notably, those were your words, not mine. I simply agreed with you, as I found it to be a fair statement.

    As to the ranking of Russian media, who did the ranking? In fact, I really could not speak to the validity of such things, but I will note that political show trials were once the hallmark of everything which is wrong with Soviet Russia, which came to be seen in the Yukos trial under Putin as well, even as his motives in manipulating that case were pretty clear. Yet, today, political show trials are well tolerated in the West, and not just in the US, with the complete support of Western media. In fact, there can be no greater betrayal by the Forth Estate than to play the toady of the corrupt leadership with whom they helped defenestrate the values and beliefs upon which the West was founded. So, while you suggest that Russia’s media is ranked the lowest, no doubt by a conglomerate of western opinions, I would bring the subject back to the West, where the media has lost ALL credibility. Of course, this should not be seen as an endorsement of Russian media, for, as I stated above, I really could not speak with any authority on the Russian Fourth Estate, but with regards to the Western Forth Estate, it is a fantastical masked charade, acting in support of the power mongers which fund its existence, in complete defiance of their mandate to seek out corruption and serve the republics which they helped bring to a state of ruin.

  24. Peloni

    What is your opinion of Trump? What is your opinion of the scamdemic? What is your opinion of the toxic shots? What is your opinion of IVM? What is your opinion of the 2020 fraud?

    You didn’t mention any of the above.in your post.

    BTW, did you notice that Russia has one of the worst rankings in the world, for freedom of the press? You DID voice an opinion on that, implying that while British intelligence is engaged in deceiving people (Duh — this is what intelligence agencies do), the Russians and others do not. I disagree with that opinion.

  25. @Michael

    I don’t agree with you on any point

    Really? What is your opinion of Trump? What is your opinion of the scamdemic? What is your opinion of the toxic shots? What is your opinion of IVM? What is your opinion of the 2020 fraud? But have it your own way.

  26. Ted,

    https://www.israpundit.org/chit-chat/comment-page-129/#comment-63356000274100

    The following is exemplary:

    Supreme Court ruling appears to validate ‘unprecedented’ lawfare campaign against Trump

    by WorldTribune Staff, February 20, 2024

    It is “clear to me that one of the goals of lawfare is to deter lawyers from challenging the 2024 election,” attorney Lin Wood said on Tuesday after the U.S. Supreme Court on rejected his appeal of legal sanctions imposed after his alleged participation in contesting the 2020 election in Michigan.

    By rejecting the appeal, the high court left in place a June 2023 ruling by the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that partially upheld the sanctions against Wood and other lawyers, including Sidney Powell…

    The root crime here, is apparently “challenging the 2020 election” This sort of thing belongs in 1980 Guatemala, under Gen. Fernando Lucas Garcia, not in the US.

  27. Peloni,

    I don’t agree with you on any point, for what it’s worth. An accurate map of World Press Freedom follows:

    https://rsf.org/en/index

    I mentioned Davyd, because he tends to quite freely take an independent stance in his reporting, to maintain a degree of objectivity. Of course, with a war going on, he is reined in to some extent . The main constraint on him seems to be YouTube.

    By “British Intelligence”, I refer mostly to The Times, although all British outlets, including Reuters, the BBC and the Guardian, have biases, as does media everywhere. Even so, if one wants to ascertain British public policy, for instance, these are go-to places. Case in point: an interview with the former British ambassador to Moscow:

    https://youtu.be/sPCb0ZrODHk

  28. @Michael

    I notice that Davyd Davydov gives a more unbiased picture of the situation in Ukraine than, say, British intelligence.

    Everyone gives a more unbiased picture of the situation in Ukraine than British intelligence, which is clearly a named as such to deceive people into believing that there is anything intelligent about the British MI6.