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  1. @Seb, Trump supported Israel more than any POTUS ever. That does not make a precision speaker who has carefully analyzed what he says before he says it many times. He may have meant well but it did not articulate what he said well and clearly.

  2. “IDF eliminates key Hamas operative

    In joint operation, IDF and ISA eliminate Akram Abd Al-Rahman Husein Salamah, senior terrorist operative of Hamas’ Internal Security who promoted significant terror activities in the Gaza Strip and planned terror attacks in Israeli territory.

    Apr 6, 2024

    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/388013

    My comment: I believe Trump meant well but I disagree with him. I think the nations were ready to condemn Israel no matter what, as usual, but the most important thing is for Israel to restore deterrence and that means making the consequences of attacking Israel as scary as possible to as large an audience as possible. Fear brings peace. And it’s good for Jewish especially Israeli morale except of course, for the handful of suicidal lunatics like the handful of Israeli expatriates I saw protesting in front of Lincoln Center today in the relative safety of America, with Israeli flags and signs reading in Hebrew and English with the English signs reading, “We are not our government.” Yeah, right, tell it to the victims of the Nova peace music festival and the leftwing kibbutzes who were hit hardest because they had no defences and they had invited the enemy alien guest workers/spies into their homes.

    Their signs should have read, “Heraus mit unce.” (Out with us.)

    Remember when Al Qaeda actually apologized for attacking the IDF by mistake?

  3. Sebastien

    Stop shouting please.

    @Felix Ahh, well, in that case screw Trotsky, you Commie bastard. ? Talk about stuck in a time warp. You might consider thinking twice before biting the hands that are humoring you. Trotsky is about as relevant here as Jesus or Hari Krishna. ?

    You might think deeply on this… in the period 1918 he with Lenin back at base managed to liquidate the very dangerous Pogroms movement 1918 to 1921

    He was very hated from then onwards by Antisemites

  4. Bear

    About Biden

    All of that

    A similarity to Hitler

    Full of shit yes.

    Not smart. Correct yes you are correct

    But he has some cunning. A big hater of Jews. We have to show his two-faced essence.

    So so dangerous.

  5. @Edgar No, Brother Theodore’s name was Theodore Gottlieb. You didn’t go to tge Wikipedia link I provided. He was German Jewish.

    “Early years
    edit
    Gottlieb was born into a Jewish family in Düsseldorf, in the Rhine Province, where his father was a magazine publisher. He attended the University of Cologne. At age 32, under Nazi rule, he was imprisoned at the Dachau concentration camp until he signed over his family’s fortune for one Reichsmark. After being deported from Switzerland for chess hustling, he went to Austria where Albert Einstein, a family friend, helped him immigrate to the United States.[2][3]”…

    “He was the king of dark humor. He performed as a wacko. Truthfully, he was always depressed in real life and people thought it was his stage character. He was from a rich family in Europe and then his whole family went to concentration camps and lost it all. When he came to the States, he quickly became a huge celebrity in the Village. Then he totally disappeared and became a has been. Dick remembered him and tracked him down. We asked him to perform at the Townhouse and he turned us down saying that his life was over and he couldn’t perform anymore. We insisted that he try to perform again in our place. He didn’t make it easy for us. He had all these provisions that he tried to use on us to not perform.”

    From much longer article

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Theodore

  6. @Felix

    Ireland is anointed as most Jews hating nation in world

    Inside 6 months comes Oct 7

    Biden plays the fervent Zionist. But the Jews were being shafted by his Catholic Fervour.

    Agree with you here pretty much here. That is almost a first.

    I do not know how Catholic Biden is but I do know he is completely full of shit and always was and is definitely shafting the Jews and Israel.

    I have know he is a worthless person who is almost always wrong about everything since the late 1980s when he first ran for POTUS.

  7. Biden visit mid April for 4 days.

    Emotional overdrive.

    Ireland is anointed as most Jews hating nation in world

    Inside 6 months comes Oct 7

    Biden plays the fervent Zionist. But the Jews were being shafted by his Catholic Fervour.

  8. SEB-

    I broke my rule and chased him down on WIKI. That very episode is in the article, including the very words he used before walking off the stage.

    He is under “Henry Morgan (Humorist)”

  9. SEB_
    Maybe you can pull this from memory or the computer.

    I used to watch the Merv Griffin Show. He himself was not funny but had some geed guests.

    One right there were sparks flying from one guest seemingly also a friend.

    “You got me out of bed to rush over here because you had only a few guests, and I have to sit here and listen to this babbling rubbish.

    And he walked right off the show. I can’t recall his name but he was a satirical comedian and had the same name as his more famous father.

  10. SEB-

    It was well known and even debated about that George Burns was not funny, was nothing without Gracie who made them funny.

    As for the definition you quote, you are taking it from a very unfunny guy.

    Borge did not talk funny, and he positively needed his props, as a stand up alone on the stage he’d have been moderately funny with well rehearsed routines.

    Jackie Gleason was funny even without Alice. Al Lewis in Car 54 was funny. Laurel & Hardy were the epitome of funny.

    To say that Jackie Mason was not funny is almost blasphemy His routines are hilarious. and his deliver faultless. Bernard Gorcy was funny.

  11. Curious with all the Anti-Semitism in the West rearing its ugly head very openingly are any of the reader of Israpundit planning Aliyah or have recently made it?

  12. SEB-

    Jerry Lewis with his contrived squeaky voice, facial grimaces and double jointed knock-knee ankle crap, along with his baby style petulance.

    Milton Berle did the ankle crap better but still not funny.

    DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH……!!

  13. @Edgar Here are the incomparable comedian Jerry Lewis and standuup tragedian, Brother Theodore (and Merv Griffin is no slouch, either.)

    Brother Theodore & Jerry Lewis- Interview/Argument 1966 [Reelin’ In The Years Archive] (Both Jewish, by the way as was Victor Borge)

    Here, I am reminded of some of the more cogent intellectual debates we’ve had here at Israpundit. (I’m Merv Griffin, here.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Fg2H3sucI

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Theodore

  14. @Edgar But, in addition to the great Danish Jewish comedian, Victor Borge, who could compare with the great German Jewish “standup tragedian” (and one of my role models) Brother Theodore, who I actually had the privilege of seeing at the 13th St. Theatre when I was a teenager in the ’70s. And of course, Jerry Lewis.

    Brother Theodore & Jerry Lewis- Interview/Argument 1966 [Reelin’ In The Years Archive]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Fg2H3sucI

    “Theodore Isidore Gottlieb (November 11, 1906 – April 5, 2001), mostly known as Brother Theodore, was a German-born American actor and comedian known for rambling, stream-of-consciousness monologues which he called “stand-up tragedy”. His style is similar to Diseuse or Kabarett, which was popular in Western Germany during the 1920s and 30s’s. He was described as “Boris Karloff, surrealist Salvador Dalí, Nijinsky and Red Skelton…simultaneously”.[1]

    Biography
    Early years
    Gottlieb was born into a Jewish family in Düsseldorf, in the Rhine Province, where his father was a magazine publisher. He attended the University of Cologne. At age 32, under Nazi rule, he was imprisoned at the Dachau concentration camp until he signed over his family’s fortune for one Reichsmark. After being deported from Switzerland for chess hustling, he went to Austria where Albert Einstein, a family friend, helped him immigrate to the United States.[2][3]

    In USA
    He worked as a janitor at Stanford University, where he demonstrated his prowess at chess by beating 30 professors simultaneously,[3] and later became a dockworker in San Francisco. He played a bit part in Orson Welles’ 1946 movie The Stranger. This was one of the several movie appearances he made beginning in the 1940s and continuing into the 1990s. These were mostly small parts in B-movies, although he did provide the voice of Gollum in the 1977 made-for-television animated version of The Hobbit and the follow-up adaptation of The Return of the King (1980). He also voiced Ruhk, Mommy Fortuna’s assistant and carnival barker in The Last Unicorn (1982).

    Success
    Theodore’s career as a monologuist began in California in the late 1940s, with dramatic Poe recitals. He moved to New York City, and by the 1950s, his monologues, now darkly humorous, had attracted a cult following. In 1958, he presented a one-man show that promoted “quadrupedism”, the idea that human beings should walk on all fours. Jay Landesman booked him at St. Louis’ Crystal Palace during the 1960s. In the early 1960s, he frequently performed at the Café Bizarre in New York’s Greenwich Village (106 W 3rd Street). He reached a wider audience through television, with 36 appearances on The Merv Griffin Show in the 1960s and ’70s, and was also a guest on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, The Dick Cavett Show, and The Joey Bishop Show. After his nightclub and TV appearances in the 1950s and ’60s waned,[3] he retired in the mid-1970s.

    Comeback
    He was pulled out of retirement and booked by magician Dorothy Dietrich and Dick Brooks in the Magic Towne House on the affluent Upper East Side of Manhattan for special weekend midnight performances. Years earlier, Brooks had remembered seeing Brother Theodore drawing large crowds at small, eclectic clubs across the Lower East Side (Greenwich and the East Village) and sought him out to appear at his new club. This resulted in a resurgence of interest in Brother Theodore that brought him success in his later years starting with Tom Snyder’s Tomorrow Show in 1977 followed by more TV appearances and movies. According to Brooks, it took multiple calls to Theodore to convince him to make a comeback. Theodore’s attitude was very bleak, and he felt his career was over. Brooks wanted to charge ten or more dollars, but Theodore insisted on four dollars, so as not to scare people away. The show was a success and ran for three years. A picture of the Magic Towne House ad appeared in local New York newspapers such as the Village Voice and The New York Post.[4]

    In an interview for MUM, The Society of American Magicians official magazine Dorothy Dietrich said:[5]

    Dick knew him. As a kid Dick used to see him around the village and they would be lined up around the block to see him. The stage was black with a pin spot on a desk which was raked towards the audience. The light comes on and there he is with a big shadow behind him. He just stares at the audience for an excruciatingly long time. Then he says, “Einstein is dead. Schopenhauer is dead… and I’m not feeling so well myself!”

    He was the king of dark humor. He performed as a wacko. Truthfully, he was always depressed in real life and people thought it was his stage character. He was from a rich family in Europe and then his whole family went to concentration camps and lost it all. When he came to the States, he quickly became a huge celebrity in the Village. Then he totally disappeared and became a has been. Dick remembered him and tracked him down. We asked him to perform at the Townhouse and he turned us down saying that his life was over and he couldn’t perform anymore. We insisted that he try to perform again in our place. He didn’t make it easy for us. He had all these provisions that he tried to use on us to not perform.

    He ended up doing the Saturday night midnight show for three years. We revived his career and it helped promote us. We did Equity Showcase Theater for out of work actors to display their talents. We had famous directors trying out their shows. One time an audition for a two-person show brought in 2000 actors vying for the parts. The line went all around the block.

    Theodore made 16 appearances on NBC’s Late Night with David Letterman in the 1980s; Letterman introduced him as “a noted philosopher, metaphysician, and podiatrist”. In the early 1980s, he was a regular on the Billy Crystal Comedy Hour. He also did voice work, including the voice-over to the American trailer for Lucio Fulci’s The House by the Cemetery in 1981. In 1989 he appeared in the Joe Dante comedy film The ‘Burbs. Up until the late 1990s, he was a guest actor in several episodes of Joe Frank: Work in Progress radio show on National Public Radio (NPR). Beginning in 1982, Theodore took up residence on Saturday nights for a nearly two-decade run at the 13th Street Repertory Theatre in Greenwich Village.[6]

    An article on Theodore appeared in RAVE magazine with color photos. Segments from it are in the book Who’s Who in Comedy. Just prior to his death from pneumonia, he recorded several monologues for the controversial documentary series, Disinfo Nation. He appeared in Billy Crystal’s mockumentary Don’t Get Me Started and voiced the character of an ointment expert on NPR’s Weekend Edition Saturday version of Julius Knipl, Real Estate Photographer in 1995.

    To My Great Chagrin documentary
    In early 2001, Theodore and film artist Jeff Sumerel met and discussed producing a documentary about Theodore. In February of that year, preliminary shooting began, including informal interviews with Theodore in his apartment; in April, Theodore contracted pneumonia and died.

    Sumerel was encouraged by Theodore’s family and friends to complete the documentary. As no funding was available, Sumerel continued the project intermittently as time and financing allowed. After interviewing Henry Gibson other notable performers who were Theodore fans were encouraged to participate. Gibson connected Sumerel with Penn & Teller who were long-time, avid Theodorians. Over the next 5 years Sumerel interviewed Dick Cavett, Eric Bogosian, Tom Schiller, Harlan Ellison, Len Belzer, Joe Dante, Mark Shulman, and Woody Allen, among others. Sumerel spent the next two years gathering archival materials and working with editor Jeter Rhodes, to sift through the vast amount of content conveying Theodore’s personal and professional life.The result was a non-traditional documentary titled To My Great Chagrin: The Unbelievable Story of Brother Theodore.[7] The film was selected for premiere, February 13, 2008, at the opening night of the Museum of Modern Art’s Fortnight Series.

    Death
    Theodore died in New York City on April 5, 2001, at the age of 94.[2] He is buried in Mount Pleasant Cemetery in Hawthorne, New York.

    His headstone reads: Known as Brother Theodore / Solo Performer, Comedian, Metaphysician / “As Long as There Is Death, There Is Hope”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Theodore

  15. Edgar “There are 3 kinds of funny, “People who act funny, people who talk funny, and people who are just funny.” – George Burns, who was all three.

    Victor Borge was all three.

    It is with deepest regret that I must inform you that Myron Cohen and Jackie Mason were none of the above,

  16. SEB-

    It may offend your musical lifestyle to be told that Borge’s piano was a prop. It certainly was, as he used to play in a very exaggerated manner, sometimes sliding off the bench or running the keys out past the keyboard end. fumbling hastily with the score, and etc.

    Please don’t deny it as I’ve seen it personally.
    The way he flipped his tails was expected to get laughs and did. Always.

  17. They said New York had an earthquake but they lied. Some people claimed they felt it. That was just my downstairs neighbor’s loud music, as usual. So gullible. Like all the people who are worried about global warming when it’s freezing in April?

  18. @Edgar He just holds a book in his hands and pretends he’s reading. That’s a big deal for you? No. You didn’t watch it. HIs other stufff, you know, music? Music is not a prop.

  19. SEB-

    Well its just your opinion. I’m not an expert raconteur anyway.

    You should explain the”slight” difference between “Borge” and Borgia” and that they are not “contemporary”….NO…!!

    That is…if you know it.

    What Props??? You darned well know what props. I mentioned them explicitely. Without them Victor is less than half as good as with them. Just imagine him standing up in street clothes and telling his jokes without being able to amplify them 500% with his props..

    Very ordinary. He’d have to depend on his long nose and humourous mouth and lips.

  20. Biden Still Polling Well With 3 A.M. Mail-In Ballot Demographic
    POLITICS
    ·
    Apr 4, 2024 · BabylonBee.com

    U.S. — Despite ominous polling data showing former President Donald Trump holding leads in key battleground states, there are strong indications that President Joe Biden is still polling well among the important 3 A.M. mail-in ballot demographic.
    Democratic strategists expressed confidence that this crucial voting block, which played an important role in his 2020 victory, is still firmly in President Biden’s corner, leading many insiders to believe that November’s presidential election will turn out differently than current battleground polls indicate.

    We’ll be just fine,” said Biden campaign chief Julie Chavez Rodriguez. “Mr. Trump’s camp may be crowing about all the polls showing him having a lead, but we all know which votes are really the important ones. As long as Donald Trump struggles to win the 3 A.M. unverified mail-in votes, President Biden will still end up being the choice of the American people. Joe just knows how to win those middle-of-the-night votes.”

    While Trump has built impressive leads in many important states heading into the general election, Biden’s track record of winning an overwhelming percentage of votes among ballots that surreptitiously arrive after polling locations have closed and don’t have verifiable signatures looms large. “Trump can build as big of a lead as he wants,” Chavez Rodriguez said. “It won’t matter. We know that the 3 A.M. mail-in ballot demographic will come in strong for us in the end. It may even come in stronger for us this year than it did in 2020. In fact, I know it will.”
    At publishing time, when asked how many 3 A.M. mail-in votes they expected to need, Biden’s campaign said it wouldn’t know until election night.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-still-polling-well-among-3-am-mail-in-ballot-demographic

  21. SEB-

    gr-niner is how far he went in school before they kicked him out. He thinks it’s the epitome of talent so he refers to everything he likes as a gr-niner.

  22. SEB-

    You misunderstood my terminology. I understood and saw, the points your ‘joke’ was meant to show. What I found incomprehensible was that you should think it funny.

    Yes Victor Borge was excellent always. But he needed his props to assist him to excellence, piano and formal dress wear.

    My choices were stand up comedians who neede d NO props.

    ***** 3 Jews were talking about their wives.

    Jew 1. My wife is wonderful, cooks like a Cordon Bleu Chef, and had a figure like Marilyn Munroe.

    Jew 2 . My wife is no slouch, she sings like an angel, and plays the piano like Rubinstein

    Jew 3. Listen you guys…my wife, when people see her they say ‘”Boy, is that a woman’… Yes, that’s what they all say…”is THAT a woman????”*****

  23. @Felix Ahh, well, in that case screw Trotsky, you Commie bastard. 😀 Talk about stuck in a time warp. You might consider thinking twice before biting the hands that are humoring you. Trotsky is about as relevant here as Jesus or Hari Krishna. 😀

  24. Sebastien Zorn

    Don’t kid yourself whatever you publish about Trotsky is of no concern to anybody but yourself.

    You must live a very boring life coz you sure come across as boring as hell to me. Yawn.

    A nonentity.

    Your verbal ramblings prove time has.long ago passed you by.

  25. @Edgar @ Vivarto Some of the humor I grew up with and which I find funny and timeless, unlike most standup comedy.

    “When speaking aloud, you punctuate constantly — with body language.

    Your listener hears commas, dashes, question marks, exclamation points, quotation marks as you shout, whisper, pause, wave your arms, roll your eyes, wrinkle your brow.

    In writing, punctuation plays the role of body language. It helps readers hear the way you want to be heard.”
    – Russell Baker

    “Victor Borge | Phonetic Punctuation”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIf3IfHCoiE

    “Børge Rosenbaum (Yiddish: ????? ?????????; 3 January 1909 – 23 December 2000),[4] known professionally as Victor Borge (/?b??r??/ BOR-g?), was a Danish-American comedian and pianist who achieved great popularity in radio and television in both North America and Europe. His blend of music and comedy earned him the nicknames “The Clown Prince of Denmark”,[1] “The Unmelancholy Dane”,[2] and “The Great Dane”.[3]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Borge

  26. @Felix If I don’t comment on something, it’s because I don’t have anything to contribute or I don’t particularly care.*

    I don’t have a “role” to play, as you enigmatically suggested. I’m done with that pseodo-scientific Marxist silliness. Been there, done that, shouldn’t be news to you by now. As for Trotsky, I did post an article Trotsky wrote that was good from 1933 about Hitler’s fake pacifism which reminded me of Paul Eidelberg’s “Sadat’s Strategy”. I was looking for something I recalled that Trotsky advocated the League of Nations invading and re-occupying Germany in 1933 when it elected a leader who promised to violate the limits to the size of the army imposed by the Versailles Treaty (though he had to have known about the secret agreement Weimar Germany had with the Soviet Union in the 20s, that in exchange for training Soviet troops and intelligence, the Soviet Union would allow Germany to secretly train troops it wasn’t supposed to have on Soviet soil.) But, he was right. And so was GW Bush when he cited the 18 conditions Saddam Hussein violated that were the conditions for him not being overthrown when he was kicked out of Kuwait. The problem lay in the execution. FYI, for most of the time I was a Marxist, I belonged to a tendency that didn’t take a position between Stalin and Trotsky, regarding them both as good Communists. Of course, now I know that that’s an oxymoron, present company excepted of course; If you are nice to me. 😀

    *

    https://youtu.be/JTEFKFiXSx4?si=Gt45caipA9TdWMO1

  27. @Edgar You said it was “incomprehensible.” You misspoke. You just didn’t think it was funny, which is fine. I don’t find Myron Cohen or Jackie Mason funny, at all. I prefer satire and theater of the absurd. Since we were talking about ancient history, I recall discovering and liking Addison and Steele in high school, I should say, when I was in high school. Oh, look what I just found.

    https://www.proquest.com/openview/7ea100ab5ba5f4263b44386abcdff0f9/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y

    But, “That’s what makes horse-racing” as the saying goes.

    Though, here’s a joke I’m sure you know, and which I’ve probably posted before, which is probably my favorite joke that would be a point of intersection where we both appreciate the same thing.

    “One day the pope decided to throw all the Jews out of Rome…”

    “He made an announcement to the Jewish community: “Send me your smartest scholar to convince me why I should let the Jewish people stay and I may reconsider my stance.” The Roman Jewish community sent Rabbi Moshe, a 78 year old Hebrew school teacher and, according to everyone but himself, the smartest Jew in Rome.

    The Pope and Moshe meet in a large conference hall in the Vatican attended by everyone that could fit in the room. Since neither party speaks each other’s language, they elect to have their debate using hand symbols.

    The Pope begins by holding up three fingers to which Moshe only raises his index finger. The Pope then makes a circular motion with one finger around his head. Moshe responds with an aggressive point to the floor. Finally the Pope takes out a bottle of wine and a communion wafer, Moshe removes an apple from his satchel and takes a bite.

    With this the the Pope throws his hands to the heavens and shouts “the Jews have done it, they may stay in Rome. I can easily tell when I have been beaten.”

    Later when the Pope convened with his disciples the only thing they wanted to know was how the Pope lost, as they couldn’t understand what was being “said.” “You see,” said the Pope “it is all very simple. I held up three fingers to show that God takes on three forms: the father, the son, and the holy spirit. Moshe countered me with one finger to show that God only has one true form. Next, I made a circular motion to show that God was everywhere to which Moshe responded with his gesture towards the floor which meant God is here with us even right now. The third and final gesture of the wine and wafer was to show that Jesus died for our sins. Moshe used the apple to show me that Adam and Eve were the original sinners. It was all very simple.”

    Meanwhile, over at the synagogue where Moshe took residence, all of Moshe’s disciples were curious as to how he won the debate. “Well you see,” Moshe grunted “the Pope held up three fingers to tell me the Jews had three days to leave Rome. I told him ‘up yours.’ He made a waving gesture with his hands telling me that every Jew needed to leave, regardless of where they go. I pointed at the floor to tell him we aren’t going anywhere.” Moshe resumed what he had been doing before the question arose. His disciples begged him to continue, asking him what the third and final thing meant. Moshe, without looking up from his desk coolly said “And then we had lunch.”

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/2ou7rh/one_day_the_pope_decided_to_throw_all_the_jews/

    It used to be in the Wikipedia article entitled, “Jewish Humor” but it’s not there anymore.

  28. SEB-
    I wasn’t born yesterday. I understood it perfectly including the wood and hair but didn’t think it was funny . I never see humour in physical defects anyway. And also, they are far too contrived to be humourous.

    My idea of top comedians are Jackie Mason and Myron Cohen.

  29. @Edgar That’sa good one though I’ve heard it before. The first joke I told was a pun. He said, “would” but she heard, “wood” and assumed he was calling her a “wood eye.” A hair lip is a split lip. If I am over-explaining, it’s because it was obvious to me when I heard it and to everyone else I ever told it to so I don’t understand what you didn’t get.

  30. If I take the readers back… Michael tried to educate me about that chart covering the geology of earth, itself fraudulent as I explained. It was the role of Michael to be very confusing

    I answered gently … Saying Check your dates. The reality was he was totally mixed up in his mind about the past history of earth. I mean totally.

    Sebastien Zorn was silent ON THIS not one word.

    Peloni now an assistant editor silent.

    Peloni pushed for years anti science on Israpundit.

    Ted has made Israpundit into an anti science website Why because he excluded the totally large viewpoints that virus is genuine and Global Warming is very real.

    Again Sebastien Zorn has been silent ON THOSE VERY ISSUES

    Recent exchanges show he is also a force for preventing the truth on Trotsky to emerge.

    All lies are of great moment. Jews do understand that at a deep level. But they must come forward more.

    THEY CERTAINLY DON’T ON ISRAPUNDIT

  31. Seb-

    In the manner of a shadchan. “Have I got a joke for you. Told to me by a Chazan, of Cork Shool very many years ago .

    A Rabbi and a priest were travelling in a train and chatting amicably.
    When they got to the Rabbi’s destination he stood up and seemingly crossed himself.

    The priest asked if he’d converted to Catholicism.

    “Nah” said the Rabbi, . The priest was puzzled and asked why he crossed himself.

    Rabbi; “I vas chost czecking that I hed everythink, shpectacles testicles vallet und vatch”
    ….

  32. SEB-

    The first “joke” is certainly not only not funny but incomprehensible.

    The second is a bit better. My lip is O.K. thank you, it was just an expression to show my utter dismissal of the obsessions of our friend Michael S.
    I was afraid he’s start posting reams of Biblical, and pseudo-Biblical unconnected shmattas like a shmeggega.

  33. @Michael Let’s wait until it doesn’t hurt Edgar for him to laugh, ok? Oh, wait, that’s right, Edgar and I don’t laugh at the same things or comedians. It’s not one of the things we have in common. OK, so here goes, it’s an old one I heard as a kid, maybe from someone in my family. We told jokes a lot.

    So, a boy and girl are each sitting alone at a party. He has a split lip and she has a prosthetic eye made out of some kind of wood.

    The boy finally gathers up enough courage to walks across the room to the girl and speak to her:

    “Would you care to dance?”

    Mortified, humiliated and enraged, she shouts at him:

    “Hair lip, hair lip, hair lip!”

    While we’re on the subject, people don’t tell jokes as much as they used to by way of conversation I’ve noticed, but an old acquaintance I ran into recently told me this one:

    Two lawyers are brownbagging it at a diner.

    The waitress says, “Hey! You can’t eat your own sandwiches, here!”

    So they exchanged sandwiches.

  34. MICHAEL

    That’s all poppycock, these guys are ‘assuming,’ and lots of “it is said” and none can be positively attributed to earlier than the end of the second cent. CE
    Furthermore they mix people with mythical gods and so forth.
    Totally unreliable.

    Christians, because they have NO evidence, are well known for grasping at straws to keep their fake religion afloat. Regardless of how many
    “proofs” you quote, none is reliable. I’m not denying that there were early Christians about whom a Roman Governor asked advice from an Emperor. It’s also MORE than possible that it was faked by later Christians who made a large business of doing so, as they had every piece of writing in their possessions and their inferiority complex was so massive.

    Don’t forget Michael, that 40 multiplied by Zero is still ZERO.

    By the way, it is well known that the REAL inventor of Christianity was Paul the Proven Liar.The “all things to all men” guy. He caught some of the many “G-D Lovers who used to crowd into the synagogues because they were not satisfied with their paganism and were drawn to Judaic ethic. From them the Rabonim , fashioned the Noachides, who, they decided were not Jews but no longer Pagans. He convinced them that it was a Jewish religion, .How he had time, having had to come from Tarsus (if he can be believed) with his epileptic fits, that must have bitten his tongue off 10 times over.

    There’s more, including about James the REAL leader of the Ebionim, but I’m fed up with this crap.

    By the way, the lee side can still be cold. and IS.

    Give it up Mikey.