By Peloni
From now on comments on every post must relate to the content of the post.
Comments that don’t relate to the post must go here.
Any person who contravenes this demand will be put on moderation. Also their offending comment will be trashed.
The reason for this demand is so that people who want to read comments which pertain to the post, don’t have to wade through the chatter.
Everyone will be happier.
Honeybee I meant the parody, view of the U.S. as Texas, obviously. Texas became independent of Mexico in 1836 and became the 28th state in 1845.
Sebastien Texas map first came out in 1835 You DA Bragg is braggin
https://www.americanheritage.com/if-it-wasnt-honor-thing
😀 Same idea. But I wonder when the Texas ones first came out?
“View of the World from 9th Avenue is a 1976 illustration by Saul Steinberg that served as the cover of the March 29, 1976, edition of The New Yorker.” Wikipedia
Sebastien, do you have a preference when it comes to cookies? I suggest you look up “A Texans view of the USA’
I have been watching the Trump trial in NYC. Why hasn’t Yawl begun building the gallows ? First thing we do in Texas, even before we pick the jury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamus_Heaney
Hi, Sebastien (& Honeybee)
Cookies are accepted as legal tender, here in western Oregon. Liberals and conservatives both accept them. The eastern part of Oregon has officially registered its desire to join Idaho. SW Oregonians have rejected joining Idaho; but many of them have wanted to join far north California as the “State of Jefferson”.
The descendants of those Texan and NYC Jews (nearly all of them Sephardic) assimilated pretty quickly. I think it was the cookies.
Peloni
Despite differences of course we fight together against a common enemy and I offer this poem.
(The cell is a small stone building where a monk spent his life, earthen floor)
Kevin and the Blackbird
And then there was St Kevin and the blackbird.
The saint is kneeling, arms stretched out, inside
His cell, but the cell is narrow, so
One turned-up palm is out the window, stiff
As a crossbeam, when a blackbird lands
And lays in it and settles down to nest.
Kevin feels the warm eggs, the small breast, the tucked
Neat head and claws and, finding himself linked
Into the network of eternal life,
Is moved to pity: now he must hold his hand
Like a branch out in the sun and rain for weeks
Until the young are hatched and fledged and flown.
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And since the whole thing’s imagined anyhow,
Imagine being Kevin. Which is he?
Self-forgetful or in agony all the time
From the neck on out down through his hurting forearms?
Are his fingers sleeping? Does he still feel his knees?
Or has the shut-eyed blank of underearth
Crept up through him? Is there distance in his head?
Alone and mirrored clear in love’s deep river,
‘To labour and not to seek reward,’ he prays,
A prayer his body makes entirely
For he has forgotten self, forgotten bird
And on the riverbank forgotten the river’s name.
Seamus Heaney 1986
Indeed, I do oppose the policies of international communism, and Bear, for all his disagreements with me over Russia, is no doubt well aware of my position on this topic, as I have had no interest in hiding it from him or anyone else. Yet, the true reason for my opposition to the communist model is not their radical disregard for the rights of property and liberty, but rather due to their radical insecurity which drove them to seek a domination of the world beyond their own borders. In this regard, I hold an equal disdain for those so called republicans (small ‘R’) whose own radical insecurities drive them to follow the communist model to overthrow nations who will not accept the radical Liberal World Order as has been actively forced upon Israel since before Bibi returned to power. Indeed, while I am a conservative, I am not a radical in anything so much as my support of Israel, and in this respect at least, perhaps we two might find some common ground to discuss.
As for Trump finding a valuable role for Haley to play in his govt, you should be reminded that Trump found valuable roles for many who opposed his policies to play in his govt with some significantly valuable outcomes in pursuing Trump’s policies. Notably, the acceptance of placing good talent from opposing idealogues is not without certain risks, as were seen with the betrayal of Pence at a final and crucial moment when his support was needed by the whole nation. Still, this is how Trump governed and it appears that to some degree at least, in this regard he has not changed his spots. He will, however, likely keep Haley on a short leash and hopefully limit her ability to make much mischief in Trump’s second term. Trump is no fool, even as president he will need to accept many bargains to secure his agendas, though less so if Schedule F is actively employed with effect.
Peloni
You have no answer for the deceit contained in the following from NeoCon Communist hater because you are in agreement
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Every word in the above is directed at you Peloni because he knows you are an anti communist meaning anti Trotskyist
For example the essence of Haley re the Russian Revolution is obscured in that discussion
That also thereby hides the reality that our problem is capitalism and that capitalism must be ended.
So he knows you two agree on the fundamentals
Which is hatred of Trotsky and alliance with Stalinism
You have indeed that in common
But Jews need something that is opposed to what you stand for. Examination of historical truth.
You will be on that track forever.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/390706
@Honeybee
Guilty as charged. When will you welcome me to the provincialism club with a plate of cookies like neighbors are supposed to do in old tv shows?. 😀
see View of the world from 9th Ave. wikipedia article about famous satirical cartoon by Saul Steinberg.
@Peloni Israelis including Bibi like Haley and think she is a true friend. Trump won the nomination and he was the best POTUS ever for Israel. I am sure if he wins the election Trump will appoint good people to positions that matter in foreign policy.
When Trump talked recently he thought there was a place in his administration for Haley. So he being a man of his word might just do that.
Everyone has opinions on people and politicians, as both you and I do many times. We differ on Haley! Your views on Haley (and many other subjects) do not hold water with me and I am sure you do not care about mine either.
@Bear
Indeed, Halley should be thanked for her words and her continued support over the years. Yet, as I have noted to you previously, for us to actually know what Haley might do of her own accord with regards to Israel, she would first need to be made president. This of course is not going to happen due to her globalist associations and her tendency to play fast and loose with the truth on many topics. Perhaps due to her Globalist positions, this is for the best, and then again, perhaps her support of Globalism too is just a ruse – again, we would need to see her as president before we could see if her dishonest nature would apply to her support for Israel or her Globalist allies. Until then, I will continue to thank her for her words, and hope a candidate who can be trusted to fulfil a pledge might be elected after Trump, and for this I don’t think that Haley would qualify, regardless of her honey soaked comments supporting Israel’s right to self defense and future success.
@Honeybee
Jewish population of Atlanta: 119,000. Jewish population of NYC: 1.3 million. But, that being said, it’s not my fellow Jews I’m worried about though it was part tongue in cheek. Have you forgotten already?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/07/us/georgia-confederate-statues-moved
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/19/us/decatur-square-confederate-monument-removed
And apropos of nothing, Jews have been in New York, then Dutch New Amsterdam since 1654.
The first Jew settled in Atlanta in 1846. The first Jews settled in NYC then Dutch New Amsterdam in 1654.
Georgia was settled in 1733 and Jews arrived and established a congregation that same year in Savannah.
see Jewish Virtual Library for both
New York’s Jewish community is older and way bigger. It’s the largest Jewish community in the world outside of Israel. Jews are 16 percent of the population.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/390769
@Bear
That’s funny because last I checked Haley is a professional politician, meaning she really hasn’t had a job outside of politics in decades, and as we all know that the art of the politician is to lie like crazy to get what they want, votes, funding, pork, etc. And in this vein, Haley has demonstrated herself quite capable of fulfilling this qualification in so many lies over the past year, the most fun of which when she stated she unequivocally never called for raising the retirement age when she knew she had been recorded making that statement in the not so distant past. So there is reason enough to doubt Haley, whether you, I or anyone else does or not, and the basis for doubting her would be quite irrelevant to the subjects of Hamas or Russia, the latter of which you do seem to be obsessing again.
Listen to Haley interview on https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/05/29/russian-embassy-slams-haleys-collusion-allegations-in-israel-hayom-interview/
Only a pro-Russian or Pro Hamas person could doubt Haley’s support of Israel after listening to Haley interview.
Bear Good news about the Egyptian border.
Sebastien Medal of Honor for whom? Really, Darlin, do you think all the Jews live in NYC? The first Jews arrived in Texas in the 16th century.
IDF now controls whole border with Egypt in Gaza called the Philadelphia Corridor.
They have found new tunnels they did not know about and effectively no resupply can come from these tunnels to Hamas anymore. IDF will now destroy these tunnels. This was an important step in winning war with Hamas.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/nikki-haley-israel-visit-solidarity/2024/05/28/id/1166514/
@Honeybee But not a confederate medal of honor, I’d wager.
Sebastien Darlin, there is an old and respected Jewish community living in Augusta. I should say you are safer wearing a Kippa in Augusta than at Columbia or Harvard universities. It was the member of a Jewish fraternity at Chapel Hill, NC that saved the Flag from Hamas demonstrators New Yorkers are so very provincial
https://www.military.com/off-duty/movies/2024/05/21/woody-harrelson-stars-wwii-doctor-who-saved-thousands-man-miraculous-hands.html
@Honeybee Shhh! Ya wanna get me lynched? Ma’am. 😀
Meme on front sign of storage place. Photo popped up on Facebook.
Sebastien May I suggest you visit the Civil War cemetery and mueseum in Augusta, GA You will discover Jewish Confederate Officers.were highly regarded
England sucks!
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381425
Full Article at: https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/390706
https://www.jwv.org/jewish-soldiers-in-the-civil-war-the-union-army-by-adam-d-mendelsohn/
“It’s good to want things.”
– “Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael” (1990)
Green horse, with GPS control!
https://youtu.be/cg8cwV44vmM
The Left has gone a bridge too far this time. Shikma Bressler, one of the main organizers of the anti-Bibi, anti-govt, anti-war protests, has shared a post indicating that
“Powerful international factors are helping the struggle, including: the President of the United States, heads of government in the West and the Middle East, and the Hague Tribunal>.”
After significant backlash, she deleted the post and issued an apology. This single statement will have further diminish the already flagging support for the pro-US, pro-West, and pro-Hague protests calling for the govt to surrender its war on Hamas.
When I took acting and playwrighting classes at HB studios in the West Village many years ago, everybody would go out for drinks afterward to the White Horse Tavern which is where Dylan Thomas used to hang out and where he died.
“The Man on the White Horse” I seem to recall is a common metapho for the strongman leader who people think will save the day, kind of a human deus ex machina or political messiah figure. I think De Gaulle was referred to that way. I was googleing it and found even a reference to Cromwell. Certainly it applies to Julius Caesar and possibly to Trump by his enemies as I think it’s usually used as a pejoraive. I wonder what the origin is.
From all those posts i selected only the phrase “The White Horse”
I was reminded by it that General Boulanger of France was regarded by his many supporters as “The Man on The White Horse” who would lead France to defeat and destroy Prussia /Germany in
revenge for the defeat of 1870.
He was actually also called “General Revenge”. It was thought that he would take over the govt. But he proved to be only a damp squib in the end.
I recall reading about him many years ago. It was just around that time that my maternal grandparents arrived in Ireland from the shtetl in Lithuania and settled in Cork City.
There was also a classic Star Trek episode, the original series like that in which they land on a planet for rest and recreation but every passing thought any of them has gets translated into reality creating a scary situation. The original series was very philosophical which made it a very different kind of show. The cliff hangers were generally not of the “Perils of Pauline type” though those situations were there, where it was a question of whether the protagonists will survive some imminent threat, but rather, it would go to commercial where they were faced with some kind of desperate often ethical choice between two seemingly impossible alternatives.
Found it googling, Star trek episode called “Shore Leave” , 1st season, episode 15 (1966.)
There was also a classic Star Trek episode, the original series like that in which they land on a planet for rest and recreation but every passing thought any of them has gets translated into reality creating a scary situation. The original series was very philosophical which made it a very different kind of show. The cliff hangers were generally not where not of the “Perils of Pauline type” though those situations were there, where it was a question of whether the protagonists will survive some imminent threat, but rather, it would go to commercial where they were faced with some kind of desperate often ethical choice between two seemingly impossible alternatives.
found it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shore_Leave_(Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series)#:~:text=%22Shore%20Leave%22%20is%20the%20fifteenth,aired%20on%20December%2029%2C%201966.
I liked Beau Geste.I’ve seen it many times. Another favorite also starring Stewart Granger is “The Magic Bow” co-starring Phyllis Calvert (1946), a made up love story about Paganini with the actual violin solos by the late great Michael Rabin.
If course, the Google translate passage is nonsensical. It is literal but language is often colloquial. If you really want me to understand, you should provide English translations, as well, as I, like probably most Americans, am only fluent in English, and at most, have a smattering of words and phrases in other languages, though both of my parents were fluent in several languages.
I made a joke about that – a true story, actually – which I’ve posted here, the punchline of which was, ” It’s at times like this I’m filled with a sense of deep gratitude I don’t speak a word of Ukrainian” … and that the reason Americans are so welcoming, open, generous and warm hearted to the whole world is that if we understood even a fraction of what people were saying about us in their own languages, we’d be in a pretty bad mood. 😀
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My latest wisecrack – since people are always asking me where I’m from.
“I’m a fourth generation New Yorker, a second-generation Upper West Sider, and a life long Manhattanite though both of my parents were foreigners, my father from Hungary and my mother from Brooklyn.” 😀
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/View_of_the_World_from_9th_Avenue”
Daniel Greenfield writes in his new book – about early Manhattan – “New Yorkers, ever that curious mix of the parochial and the gregarious, had not ventured very far beyond the boundaries of a Lower Manhattan whose Wall Street had been an actual wall built a century before by Dutch settlers of New Amsterdam” p. 17. I also remember an episode of the ’60s TV series, “Ben Casey” about that. Apropos of nothing, my favorite Japanese drama, “Doctor X” which ran for 7 or 8 seasons, is a medical satire obviously partly inspired by Ben Casey. The cat’s name is Ben Casey. The heroine’s catchphrase is “I never fail.”
There’s another passage that I read – just this morning while eating breakfast – that was so close to a passage from the fairy tale I quoted the other day, it was eery, bringing to mind “Indra’s Net” and also Jung’s theory of synchronicity which he stole from his Jewish lover and patient who also probably got it from ancient Indian mysticsm just as philosophers like Hegel stole dialectics from Indian Buddhism of 2500 years ago.
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“On a White Horse.”
“On Election Day, Alexander Hamilton rode a horse through the streets of New York.
This was not the grey horse, its saddle empty and boots reversed in the stirrups, which would follow his coffin a short four years later after this day of his greatest defeat. Nor was it the bay horse that he had bought the year before the election. The white horse had been chosen for its effect. ” – “Domestic Enemies” by Daniel Greenfield (2024) p. 29.
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And here’s the passage from a few days ago. This has been happening to me all the time for as far back as I can remember. That’s one of the reasons I would describe myself as a spiritual person though not a religious one, aside from the fact that I was brought up that way by both my mother and sister. I don’t believe in anything I haven’t witnessed, experienced, or reasoned though as the saying goes, “there’s more things in heaven and earth…”
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“We passed by an orchard on our way, and it was filled with all sorts of nice ripe fruit. I halted the gray horse, dismounted the brown horse and tied the white horse to the hedge. I tried to jump over the fence but I couldn’t, so I grabbed hold of my hair and hoisted myself over. In the orchard I shook the plum-tree, and when walnuts began to fall all about me, I picked up as many hazelnuts as would go into my jacket.
It was terribly hot and I was terribly thirsty. I saw some reapers not far off and asked them to tell me where there was some water. They told me of a spring not far off. But when I got there, it was frozen over! I tried to break the ice with my heel and then with a rock, but it was thick as could be. So I took my head and broke the ice easily with it, drank my fill, and that was that.
I went back to the fence and to the hedge, hoisted myself over by my hair again, untied the gray horse, mounted the brown one and rode off on the white one at such a speed that my hair hung down in the wind.
There were two men standing on the path; when we came up to them, they called out to me:
“Hey there, what happened to your head?”
I felt my back, and sure enough, my head was missing! Back I raced to the spring, and what did I see? My head had got bored without me, and when it saw that I had left it there it made hands, neck, back and legs for itself out of mud and was skating along merrily on the ice. I was pretty good myself at gliding on ice, and I tried to catch my head, but it was an even better skater and I was completely unsuccessful.
My God, now what would become of me? I was afraid that I would have to stay without a head, but then I thought of something and told myself not to lose my head! I made a grey-hound out of mud and told him to go get my head, which he did in a flash. I quickly put it back on my neck, went to the hedge, pulled myself over by my hair, untied the gray horse, mounted the brown one and rode off as fast as a bird on the white horse.”
excerpt from:
” – “The Truest Adventures of the Truthful Mountain Boy”
(from “Once Upon a Time, Forty Hungarian Folk Tales” edited by Gyula Ilyes, Corvina Press. Hungary 1964, 1970. Typed from the book for Israpundit by SZ. I left out the accents and the umlauts because, well, it’s just too much trouble. Sebastien has an accent, too. It’s French.)
Sebastien Zorn Chit Chat
https://www.israpundit.org/chit-chat/comment-page-140/#comments
MAY 20, 2024 AT 7:34 AM
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“Indra’s Net”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra%27s_net
On another subject, I’m just re-reading Beau Geste, and will go on to read the other two of the series.
I’ve seen both film versions several times each, and , along with Oida’s “Under two Flags” Is the most poignant and totally riveting story I’ve ever read, or seen.
My only criticisms (not of the excellent acting) of the second (Hollywood) version is that Gary Cooper was not a suitable “Beau” being neither extraordinarily handsome (far from it) and the caste was so very American.
Seb-
I’ve never come across “a squirt” and I’d say that the translation is wrong. It has no conceivable relevance. It has always been as I have posted.
I just recalled that since history was an absorbing subject for me, that Swabia went out of existence some time in the 13th century although the name of the area lingered for a couple of centuries. I believe it was a part of Bavaria.
So that song is very ancient indeed.
What words did you give Google to translate?????? You have to have given it something, to get your result???
Haaretz reports:
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This is so even thought the ratio of terrorists killed to cifvilians killed is by far the lowest in history. The norm is 1 to 9 whereas in Gaza its 1 to 1.5
EDGAR-
That’s Google Translate’s translation. What’s it mean in English?
SEB-
I just recalled an old ditty we used to sing after we’d won an important cricket match.
It went like this ;
Ich bin a Musikan , und Ich Kom fun Scwabilandt,
Ich ken schpillen, Mit Vos ken dir schpillen,
Mit Mei.n Viola……………
Ch;
Vi-o Vi-o Viola, Vi-o Vi-o Viola
” ” ” Viiiii-O- Viola.
Ich bin a Musikan, und Ich kom fun Schabilandt…and so on it repeats the first verse except that it substitutes a series of instruments. My recollection is that the second one was a “Terr-0m0 Bone”.
Nonone knew where it came from nor how old, it had been taught to a few by their grandparents.
This dates it back to the early 1800s. and it must have been far older than that, such a simple ditty.
But note…the pride of FIRST place went to the Vi-O-La.
@Edgar I read De las Casas in High School and I couldn’t get through the Twain or the Cooper, for that matter, they just didn’t hold my interest. but I’ll look at the others. Thanks
It’s funny. I love Twain’s witty aphorisms but aside from “Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court,” and the, relevant excerpts from his journeys to Eretz Israel, I have found Twain’s writing tedious and boring. I’ve tried repeatedly to read him, and I have his complete works in ebook form, but I just kept giving up after a while. It just didn’t hold my interest.
And I read Broken Spears in College. Do you know it? And Black Elk Speaks when and Makcolm X’s memoirs as a teenager.
I assure you, if it made America look bad, it was assigned. In my neck of the woods, the 1619 project began in the 60s and began in 1492.
Seb-
A different kind of book. sure to be in Gutenberg is the Memoirs od Bartolemeo De Las Cases, an account of the way the Spaniards wiped out hundreds of thousands of South American Indians by working them to dissolution.
Deeply touching after a start in the opposite direection.
Would not plain reading glasses that just magnify be more suitable. I am not an ophthalmologist but it seems to me that simple magnification for reading only, works well. At least, I use a magnifying glass on occasion for shadowy or tiny print.
Could never stand the touch of glasses on my nose and behind my ears. I had a friend many years ago, an optician, and tried on a couple of times. I was about 18, and right there I decided I’d never wear any. y eyesight has always been excellent, helping my eye hand sports co-ordination immensely.
Now I have had cataracts fior the past 10 or more years but they are slow and do not bother my reading. At my age tanyway, there isn’t much to see that I already haven’t.
And you might enjoy Mark Twain’s ” Fenimore Coopers Literary Lapses. I found it hilarious,