Judea and Samaria were among the subjects discussed in the annual report released on Wednesday by State Comptroller Yosef Shapira. The Comptroller determined that the law was not being properly enforced in this region.
Shapira wrote in his report that the lack of adequate law enforcement in Judea and Samaria is in part because of a disagreement between the IDF, the Israel Police, and the Civil Administration for Judea and Samaria over who is responsible for law enforcement in the region.
“The meaning of the findings in this report is a very serious and ongoing reality [of poor law enforcement in Judea and Samaria],” he wrote. “This is a multi-systemic failure and the relevant ministers must acknowledge it as soon as possible.”
Shapira said that there was illegal construction of homes taking place in Judea and Samaria, both by Jews and Arabs, but said that proper action was not being taken against the offenders.
“The police and the Civil Administration refuse to address the criminal offenses in relation to planning and construction in Judea and Samaria and to take action against Israeli and Palestinian offenders in this area, arguing that the issue is not their responsibility”, wrote Shapira. “This means that there is no body in charge of the investigation of the criminal aspect of violations in planning and construction. This contributes to the perpetuation of the status quo in this field.”
On another issue, the State Comptroller noted that the enforcement of traffic laws in Judea and Samaria is extremely lacking and this causes a risk to the lives of many local residents, particularly due to reckless driving by Palestinian Authority Arabs residing in the region.
“The existing situation, where the enforcement against Palestinian traffic criminals in Judea and Samaria is lacking, should be viewed as serious,” wrote Shapira. “This situation has to come to an end. It is important that the Defense Minister and Minister of Public Security determine, as soon as possible, the division of labor between the police and the state prosecutor regarding traffic crimes.”
The report also found that hundreds of PA Arabs who were illegally employed by Israelis have been caught in recent years.
“Given the security risk arising from employing Palestinians without an appropriate work permit, it is essential that the Civil Administration, the IDF and the police take all the necessary steps to eradicate this phenomenon,” wrote Shapira.
Shapira said that most of the responsibility for the lack of proper law enforcement in Judea and Samaria lays on the Civil Administration.
“The head of the Civil Administration must explore ways on how to improve, as soon as possible, the actions of the monitoring unit of law enforcement in Judea and Samaria on the aforementioned matters, and address in coordination and cooperation with Central Command and the Israel Police all the shortcomings mentioned in this report, in order to form a united front among all concerned in all the areas of law enforcement in this region,” he wrote.
IDF and police: We’ll study the report
Responding to the State Comptroller’s report, the IDF and the police both said they would study its findings and reach the appropriate decisions on the correct course of action to take.
“The primary mission of the IDF in Judea and Samaria is the protection of residents and maintaining security and stability,” said the IDF. “In addition, the IDF has an obligation to act to maintain order in the area, including overall responsibility for enforcing the law. The duty to enforce the law in Judea and Samaria is embedded in the commanders and soldiers, and it is taught and practiced prior to the operational employment of the forces in the region, in cooperation with the Israel Police and the Border Police.
“Successful law enforcement in Judea and Samaria requires engagement and cooperation of all the law enforcement and government offices,” said the IDF. “The IDF attaches great importance to carrying out security checks throughout the industrial zones in Judea and Samaria and constantly acts to ensure the safety of residents and citizens in industrial areas and will generate the necessary conclusions from the report in order to realize them.”
The Israel Police said that the report’s findings will be studied, adding, “In general, law enforcement in Judea and Samaria is at the hands of the IDF. The Israel Police assists and will continue to assist the IDF in all applicable areas.”
The police noted that just as it does not investigate nor prosecute offenders in matters related to illegal building or construction and planning in the rest of Israel, it does not do so in Judea and Samaria.
In addition, said the police, it is working to enforce the issue of illegal employment of PA Arabs in Judea and Samaria, which is a direct violation of a military order prohibiting employment of Arabs without the necessary permit.
Comptroller blasts police failure to criminally investigate illegal settler building
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– and the loss of millions of shekels in uncollected property fees in the West Bank,
– for failing to enforce regulations with regard to property, agriculture, water, illegal Palestinian workers, the environment and traffic violations.
Peace Now on Wednesday threatened to petition the High Court of Justice to force the Custodian of Abandoned Property to collect fees and conduct criminal investigations into illegal building activity.
– The Health Ministry does not check the presence of pesticide residues in agricultural products in settlements, as was decided upon under a 2000 agreement between the ministers of health and agriculture, Shapira wrote.
There is also a growing phenomenon by which Palestinian produce is sent to Israeli packing houses in Judea and Samaria, without adherence to the rules for non-Israeli produce, he said.
There is no Israeli entity that oversees and coordinates compliance with water laws, even though there is a continued phenomenon of large quantities of stolen water, Shapira wrote.
He reported that soldiers did not deal with the issue of illegal Palestinian workers in West Bank settlements, and that this is particularly problematic given that they could pose a security risk.
Specifically, he said that soldiers do not record the information or send complaints to the police.
– due to a lack of manpower in the office, half-a-billion shekels have been lost annually because in many cases lease fees have not been collected.
He calculated that out of 120 settlements in Judea and Samaria, only 33 were created through the Construction and Housing Ministry. In those 33 settlements, Shapira wrote, land leases were properly signed and leasing fees were charged, Shapira said.
But leases were not signed and fees were not collected in 87 other settlements created by the Settlements Division of the World Zionist Organization, Shapira said.
Similarly, he said, the custodian’s office did not check land used by Israeli farmers in the Jordan Valley and has never checked to make sure that it or the allowable water allocations are being used for agriculture purposes.
Since October 2000, when the second intifada started, 95 percent of the Palestinians who rent property from the custodian stopped paying their fees. The custodian has not operated to renew their contracts or to receive their fees, Shapira wrote.
The ministries of defense, agriculture, housing and treasury knew that there was a problem but did nothing to address it, Shapira said.
It is worth emphasizing, the police said, that it does not open investigations or charge criminals in the field of environmental protection, illegal construction or planning violations in Judea and Samaria, just as it doesn’t within Israel.
In these fields the investigative jurisdiction and decision to press charges in Israel is dependent on professional bodies, the official said.
In Judea and Samaria the civil administration is the professional body, the official said.
Nonetheless, the police deals with the water theft issue and gives investigative answers to all complaints of water theft and illegal drilling, in particular through combined operations and carrying out arrests, the police official said.
In 2012, 168 cases were opened against those who damaged infrastructure, the official said. Out of those, 22 were cases of water theft, an issue that is a priority for 2013, the official said.
The police does deal with illegal Palestinian workers in the settlements, but is heavily dependent on the IDF to issue complaints, because the IDF is the protective force for the settlements, the official said.
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NGO Regavim said the report was proof that Israel needed to immediately annex Area C, or at least the settlements located there so that civilian life in Judea and Samaria could fall under the auspices of the relevant ministries.
yamit82 Said:
http://youtu.be/H0hgpiXHOeY
yamit82 Said:
I told you what I told you on the understandin you would not laugh!!! I also should mention on that day it was drizzing and cold. I felt HEAT [on the day of the battle the heat rose to neatly 100], I also smelled blood and dust. Very boody in the heat!!!
@ honeybee:
Arik Sharon believed he was the incarnation of Hannibal.
My psychic experiences come in dreams but I never remember them. 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlqwZfi2qg
Archaeologists say they’ve found one of King David’s palaces
Two large structures — one said to be monarch’s palace; the other a royal storeroom — uncovered at Khirbet Qeiyafa site near Jerusalem and dated to Davidic period
@ yamit82:
I shall listen to the Fiddler later,Tex has been doing all the cooking with my orthopedic problems,but PT had done very well and I promised my famous roast chicken with mashed potatos and gravy< I will get back to you when the chicken is in the oven. Wish you could enjoy too, would do wonders for Ted. Lot of garlic!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ yamit82:
I had he oddest feeeling as I walked on to the battlefield as if I were stepping into a mist, it was unusually cold that day [but its Montana] the field had burned in the spring [first burn since the battle]and still smelled of ash.
The field is dotted here and there with markers where each sodier’s body was found when the buriel unit arrived about six week ,more less, after the battle.
As I arrived, at the the first stone I was surrounded [it hard to discribe]mentally by the soldiers, all yelling at once. I had them line up an visited each seprately. At one marker I visualize the deragotype photo of a young woman,later the achiologis found a gold wedding ring there.{the young soldier was grieving the loss of his wife]. Some of the soldiers did not know that Custer had died in the battle, they thought he had run to escape, others were angry he had lead them into a trap[most did not care for him as a man or a leader]. They wanted a proper burial,[there still pieces of bones]and the Irish wanted a funeral Mass. Later this was done,after the archiologist were finished. In one gulch, full bramble it was believed that there were whole remain left, but nothing was and later they found nothing. The Souix overwellmed then and they fought in small pockets,compleat chaos. The Souix crawled up the hill naked, used their arrows[quieter then guns] then turned the soldiers weapons back on as tthe soldiers, they picked off each pocket of 2 -4 soldiers. They are at peace now.
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
@ honeybee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4GniJYzGa8
honeybee Said:
“I had the oddest physic experience when I was there. I have had that happen before,but never intense.”
@ yamit82:
No te entiendo,like what,what!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ the phoenix:
Thanks
@ honeybee:
Like What?
@ yamit82:
@ honeybee
Enjoy!
http://youtu.be/GlML-ldPNV8
@ bernard ross:
bernard ross Said:
http://youtu.be/nauLgZISozs
honeybee Said:
I am disappointed that you did not get my joke, 🙁
Are you dyslexic, if so my joke fell on deaf eyes. Please re-read carefully, as if you were a Brit.
bernard ross Said:
You can’t read and write Texican, Sugar? Don’t you know what sog is, Yankee Boy?
honeybee Said:
you inadvertently left out the “N”. FIFY 🙂
@ yamit82:
Thank-you kindly!!!Darlin. Here is another song for you,left on on another post!!
http://youtu.be/0_EFdod4YDo
honeybee Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOoJrGP1pCI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTdKznTA9iY
@ yamit82:
Here is a sog to get you through the night,have a feeling you would in enjoy it, all the viking shamen vibs of mine
http://youtu.be/UtvmkkFD7aI
yamit82 Said:
I really talk about it [only to Tex and my Navaho friend]but I had the oddest physic experience when I was there. I have had that happen before,but never intense.
yamit82 Said:
At lest Jewish mother feed you while they knvetching. Swedes were tough.
yamit82 Said:
So discribe it for me,I enjoy iit so when you write, you very good at writing,I can can see what you are discribing.
honeybee Said:
I can empathize with that sentiment.
You sure your mother was not Jewish? 😉
No, missed the experience.
Don’t think DNA will support your belief. That said, for around 200 years Jewish traders mingled and took Indian wives especially during the winters and there was some cross acculturation. Jews, Moors and Indians got along pretty well.honeybee Said:
I was there about 6 months ago.
yamit82 Said:
My Father often he would never visit Israel because he would never return to the USA.yamit82 Said:
I am a pariah in my family for my political views,don’t care anymore, I” jumped the traces long ago”, when I married. My Mother was not happy with my joice, she was hoping for a Doctor or a lawyer with lots of money so she could show off.
yamit82 Said:
” Oh how the Mighty have fallen, the young men Of Israel” Don’t laugh,but I tear up every time I hear that story.
Of course. I have a fondness for Mt Tabor.
Have you ever been to “The Little Big Horn”, every wonders why Custer lost, nobody asks why the natives won!! The man who does my framing is Crow. Custer’s scouts were Crow and the Souix had appropiated their land. When I told him the scouts had “killed two birds with one stone”, he smiled. I have always beieved the Crow are remnants of the 10 tribes.
yamit82 Said:
Iam envious,see the have found King Davids compound. Have you been there?
honeybee Said:
Of-course not, That was so long ago it’s a fading memory, and I have gone my own way with few regrets and she is not one of them.
I only mentioned it to make a point that growing up in America I was influenced by American culture as are most Jews. Only later did it dawn on me the price Jews are required to make in conforming to the melting pot cultural ethos of America.
In essence Jews traded in their Jewishness and Judaism for American acceptance.
Not many Jews can appreciate the feeling of living in a society with a majority being Jewish. Most Israelis who were born in Israel and have never lived as a minority in other countries or experienced antisemitism are emotionally unconnected with such feelings and experiences. They have no direct experience with antisemitism either on a personal level. This makes them very naive and trusting more than they should.
It’s only those like me who bring our own experiences to Israel, that give some balance to how Israelis perceive the world.
I have long since ceased caring what non Jews say or think and feel, and I am free to say whatever I feel without the fear and constraints Jews have as minorities even in liberal societies like America.
My Kibbutz was in the Jezreel Valley across from Mt. Gilboa.
There is a patch near the summit where nothing grows, no trees. legend has it that the spot is cursed because David cursed it when his friend Johnathan (Yonatan) was killed in Battle. I would often just sit and look up at the Mt. especially at dawn and sunsets. Every foot of Israel has a history attached to it which gives meaning to living here like no other place.
yamit82 Said:
Would you you be anery at me if I said”you dodged a bullet there”.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Do you actually know? Heinz 57?
I don’t insult all christians, most christians and as a matter of truth very few christians. Only those I know or perceive have a nefarious agenda toward Jews and Israel. Matter of fact some of my best friends were christians,—– A- because where I grew up there weren’t many Jews and B-except for a handful I couldn’t stand most of those Jews for more than 5 min.
I was a Jock and there weren’t many Jewish Jocks that played football, track and field in off season as well as wrestling to keep in shape. I threw the shot in those days and even considered coming to Israel for the Maccabia. My gentile girlfriend killed that idea, we eventually got engaged till her Presbyterian parents managed to break it up. I think the father was a convert or the son of one.
I bear no ill will to any individual christian today but I despise christianity and especially missionaries. Judaism considers them worse than terrorists. While most knowledgeable christians are aware of our history and theirs but would rather forget it, there are also some Jews also knowledgeable in Jewish and christian history who have not forgotten and are not adverse to reminding our christian friends and enemies that we have long memories…..
No need to tell you, as I am sure you would insult them, as you insult all Gentile Christians.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Are you sure? Explain.
Agreeing to preconditions is transparent no matter how negative from my POV. Open negotiations will not be transparent and BB could give away much more under cover of non transparency and present as Begin did, a fait accompli, after the fact to the Israeli people.
From my POV any negotiation is to be avoided as I hold there is nothing to negotiate about. We have the power and should use it to finish this nonsense once and for all.
The Arabs can leave, they can agree to live in peace with no territorial or political rights or they can fight. There is no fourth option. (Joshua) If it was good enough for my ancestors it’s good enough for me. Your ancestors were what? So I can understand where you are coming from.
CuriousAmerican Said:
your repetitive mantra of ” pay them to leave” has cast you as disingenuous and this colors all your statements and credibility. Although it is the Europeans, christians and arabs who caused and maintain the problem and who should pay, you keep insisting that the jews should pay. Jewish antennae know what this is really about in spite of your protestations otherwise. Apparently you are unable to sneak your wares past the fraud detector.
Would you like some cheese with your whine?
CuriousAmerican Said:
Which criminal justice system applies to Israeli citizens residing in Judea and Samaria?
A number of criminal justice systems apply to Israelis living in the region.
First and foremost, they are bound by the (previously mentioned) enforceable laws and security legislation which applies in the region.
Furthermore, the Israeli Kenneset (parliament) has de facto implemented the general Israeli provisions of criminal legislation upon those citizens residing in Judea and Samaria.
This was achieved by granting jurisdiction to the Israeli courts “…to judge according to the applicable Israeli law, a person who is located in Israel for his/her acts or omissions which occurred in Judea and Samaria and also an Israeli for his/her acts or omissions which occurred in land under the Palestinian Authority if the act or omission were offences if occurring within the jurisdictional scope of the Israeli courts” (article 2(a) The validity extension law of the emergency regulations ordinance 1967).
As a result of applying domestic legislation, Israelis who commit offences in Judea and Samaria are usually tried in Israeli courts.
Several provisions of the local law and the security legislation of a domestic character (breach of planning and zoning laws, business licensing laws etc., committed by Israelis) are also enforceable through prosecution in the Courts for Local Affairs situated in the major settlements.
That said, Every Arab non citizen of the territories have access to Israeli courts civil and criminal including the Israeli SS and have the right of petition.
CuriousAmerican Said:
LO siento http://youtu.be/w3Ls2mrevAM
CuriousAmerican Said:
more ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! the horse you keep beating died ages ago, it was innocent.
It is better than Bibi agreeing to pre-conditions
CuriousAmerican Said:
http://youtu.be/OHgFs4Oxuc4
CuriousAmerican Said:
Now tell us why Abbas negotiating without preconditions is a good thing for Israel and the Jews?
No, I would NOT. You are exaggerating.
The fact is: Palestinians are not under civil law. The graph is right, even if you do not like the source.
Jews and Pioneers in Judea and Samaria operate UNDER diffrerent legal systems. I can provide other ISRAEL sources if you so like.
Jews in Judea and Samaria, when arrested, are under Civil law; while Palestinians are under Military Law.
That is fact.
You can howl all you want. I was not making a moral equivalence. I was stating fact.
Any time someone says something you do not like you bring up Mein Kampf or the Nazis.
All I said was … the Palestinians and Jews in Judea and Samaria are under different laws. THEY ARE
I await your apology.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Here is the Site you quoted from: “OCCUPATION 101” putting ugly reality into neat charts since 2012
This is a series of infographics on the effect of the occupation on the Palestinian civilian population. All the data in these charts has been published before by reliable sources, and is listed below.
“Since we belive this information should be known to the whole world, we encourage you to share and publish it. here you can download the screen and print versions of the whole series. The “Visualizing Occupation” is the work of Michal Vexler, a designer, educater and activist from Tel Aviv.”
Sources for Her Graphs:
Machsom Watch: Invisible prisoners
Wikipedia: Arab citizens of Israel
Wikipedia: Demographics of the OPT
B’telem: restrictions on fishing in Gaza
UNRWA statistics
B’telem water report
UN OCHA sprinsg takover report
Amnesty report: Palestinians Denied Fair Access to Water
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Faculty for Israeli-Palestinian peace
B’Tselem
Haaretz
nolegalfrontiers.org
OCHA: The Planning Regime Applied by Israeli in Area C of the West Bank
ICAHD: Obstacles to Peace
Peace Now: Settlements in the West Bank – facts and numbers (Hebrew)
Wikipedia – Bantustan
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You would use “Mein Kampf” to support arguments against the Jews or the “Protcols” So far with you there is NOTHING to apologize for. You are obsessed in creating a moral equivalence and equalization between Jews and everyone else. You search and search in every internet hole to dig up what you hope and believe to be support justifying you mad obsession with the Jews. Each time you wind up shooting yourself in the foot. Maybe you should begin to aim a little higher!! 😉
CuriousAmerican Said:
This is your mistake. The courts in Yehuda and Shomron have for years borne down harshly on the Jews, taking completely fabricated testimony from false filthy lying Arab witnesses and throwing Jews in jail or expelling them from their homes.
The situation here is Kafkaesque!
CuriousAmerican Said:
Read the fine print on the bottom regarding who commisioned this crap.
http://vex.co.il/info/web/twokidsweb.jpg (AN ISRAELI SITE)
(Click on the picture to expand it)
There are different legal Systems
I await your apology, Yamit82.
Yamit, the Jews will have to pay also.
If some Christians make a profit, all the better.
Actually, no one will profit but Israel.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Jews will not be the beneficiary unless all leave. even 10% is a drop in the bucket and easily replaced by high birth rate, in one generation.
If you can’t guarantee 100% or 90% even 80% then there is nothing in it for the Jews. But you Christians in Chile and elsewhere will or do hope to gain financially and soul snatching without the negative of trying to do it here and lose your heads.
Paying them is a perfectly justified missionary activity and the profits from selling real-estate in Chile or other Latin American destinations could be worth many millions if not billions, so you have the most incentive to buy them off.
Start a christian crusade and pass out collection boxes instead of Blue and white JNF colors, make them Green red or Black Islamic. 😛
@ CuriousAmerican:
Too much to write and not enough time…. (For the rest of the day pretty much)
🙁
It is to be continued, american.
CuriousAmerican Said:
That is a lie, you liar!!!!
Jews in the territories are under military law as are Pales in Area B+C, Area A containing most of the Palis population is self governing authority with many if not most of sovereign state institutions and symbols. Area B Israel only has overall security authority meaning keeping a lid on subversives and terrorists. The rest is admin by Palis civilian and police forces. Only Area C in under complete ( on paper) Israeli civilian and military control.
Application of Israeli civilian law would amount to de Facto annexation.
You have a selective and short memory:
Palestine was quiet until Shimon Peres(Yemach Shemo Vezichro) brought the PLO from Tunis. It was Israel who allowed them near full autonomy of self rule and supplied them with most of the tools to succeed if they abided by their commitment to non violence and peaceful accommodation. They didn’t, so in fact the agreements should have long ago been rescinded and Israel should have taken back what was naively (Stupidly)given.
Israel should remove our protection of Abbas and let his enemies deal with him. Let Hamas and Fatah fight it out to the death. What’s ever left we destroy.
I have no problem if Christians contribute, but Jews are going to have to contribute a lot,too.
Even MK Feiglin admitted that. So does Dr. Martin Sherman of TA University.
Here is an idea. Holocaust reparations not dispersed to the individuals, should be used to by out the Arabs.
Half or more of all EU funding to the PA must, by Israeli law, be used to buy out the Arabs.
Kerry offerred $4 billion to the PA to negotiate. That $4 Billion could have paid 40,000 Arab women @ $100,000 each to leave for South America.
That would be 3% of the young PA population – and 6% of the young women. Gone.
Abbas would have started negotiating without pre-conditions if that happened.
But Jews will have to contribute since they will be the chief beneficiary of the removal of the Arabs.
@ CuriousAmerican:
Well, american…. NOW you’re talking!
I couldn’t agree more with you. 🙂
Of course you had to spoil this ‘new found’ understanding with your signature phrase ‘pay them to leave’
Ok.
We agreed before, maybe we’ll agree again. Let the ‘negotiation’ begin…
I agree to the principle that they should be paid to leave (american! We’re almost in full agreement!!)
BUT!
Here is where you and your brethren (see? I did not write ‘ilk’) come into the picture…
You have laid out your perpetual one note tune so I shall oblige and bring mine forth…
This pathetic ‘leadership’ of Israel will bend over backwards not to rock the boat and maintain the status quo.
We, the Jews must not, SHOULD NOT pay a dime for this population transfer.
This however will never occur under current administration….
Let Israel be governed by a true Jewish leadership (feiglin’s points to be precise. I agree with each one of them, but sadly it will not be him to implement what he proposes…)
And then things will happen, not just talk, talk, talk.
So I would say to you, american, start to pass the hat after your little Sunday sermons and start the ‘pay them to leave’ process.
YOU, will pay them NOT US, and whether paid or not (here it comes, american…) THEY MUST GO!
I suspect that none of those 87 [120-33] non-legal settlements will be bulldozed. Nor should they be.
But that does box Israel into a corner. And Regavim as well. Regavim wants to stop illegal building. Yet, how do they deal with illegal Israeli building?
This is a bureaucratic carpet meant to cover an ugly hole in the floor. Namely, both sides claim the same piece of land.
Most of those pioneers would not be so eager to start illegal communities, if they were not deathly afraid that Israel would give the area back to the Arabs. They want to place facts on the ground to prevent that; and the Arabs do likewise to prevent Jewish communities.
Given that Arabs are under Military Law, and Jews are under Civil Law, the Jews probably have more recourse to remedies in the court. Arabs compensate for this legal discrepancy buy putting up tents wherever they can.
In the end, you are going to have to get the Arabs to leave. Every other option is fluff, and a waste of time.
As you know, I say: PAY THEM TO LEAVE.
Others here take a more martial approach.