THIS IS ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT
By Martin Sherman
Recent developments reveal a dramatic erosion in Netanyahu’s strategic perspectives that makes it impossible to justify his continued incumbency.
Prisoner releases only embolden terrorists…they encourage precisely the terrorist blackmail they are supposed to defuse. – Binyamin Netanyahu, Fighting Terrorism (1995)
What sort of people and government would agree to free the murderers of its own children and do it in the name of a presumed “goodwill” toward irreconcilable enemies? What might this people and government be thinking, especially when its hoped for quid pro quo is an obvious delusion? – Prof. Louis Rene Beres, “A crime without a punishment,” July 16, 2013
Binyamin Netanyahu must resign or be induced to do so.
By any measure of moral integrity and/or statesmanship, he simply cannot be allowed to continue to function as prime minister. He has deceived the public and misled the nation. He has defrauded the voters on whose support he gained political prominence and on whose ballots he ascended to power. He has reneged on past pledges and renounced the values he professed to cherish.
But worst of all, he has betrayed himself and the most basic principles he himself espoused as the foundation of his political credo and which he led the Israeli electorate and the Jewish people to believe he was committed to.
Repeatedly proved unequal to challenges
Netanyahu is a man of extraordinary talent with a remarkably impressive record of achievement.
He was an extraordinary UN ambassador, a superb foreign minister, and a highly effective finance minister. Indeed, in most industrial countries, he might even have made an outstanding prime minister.
But not in Israel. Here the demands are different and more taxing than elsewhere, the margins of error narrower, and the cost of error not only greater, but potentially tragic and terminal.
Accordingly, despite his undeniable capabilities, despite the distinction with which he has served his country in various capacities over four decades, as the nation’s chief executive he has proved himself – time and time again – unequal to crucial challenges.
Never his most caustic critic
Readers of this column will recall that I have never been one of Netanyahu’s most caustic critics.
Although I have differed sharply with him over several of his decisions, I have defended him, in both the local and the foreign press, against the almost maniacal malevolence of the media toward him (and his spouse), and its Pavlovian impulse to hold him responsible for every misfortune that befalls mankind – from droughts in New Mexico to floods in Southeast Asia.
As recently as January 10, in “Netanyahu: The Pathology,” I wrote, “Netanyahu has been given little credit for the numerous impressive feats he, and the governments he headed, have achieved,” and remarked that “the venomous ad hominem attacks on the PM… have long exceeded the limits of rational criticism and reasoned dissent.”
However, recent developments reveal a disturbing – indeed, dramatic – erosion in his strategic perspectives and policy preferences that make it impossible to justify his continued incumbency – even for a relatively restrained and respectful critic such as myself.
Collapse of Israeli political resolve
Of course, this erosion culminated in what can only be seen as a total collapse of Israeli political resolve: The egregious decision of the Netanyahu government not only to agree to the resumption of negotiations on the establishment of a Palestinian state, but to agree that the resumption be predicated on an prior agreement for the release of over 100 convicted perpetrators of some of the most heinous acts of slaughter imaginable.
This of course makes a mockery of solemn pledges that Israel would not agree to any a priori concessions as a condition for resuming negotiations with the Palestinians.
Moreover, Israel has been impeding construction in the Jewish communities across the pre-1967 lines with a self-imposed building freeze/slowdown, thus agreeing, albeit partially, to another Palestinian demand for the resumptions of talks.
Worse, even if Israel has not explicitly agreed to accept the pre- 1967 lines as a basis for negotiations, there are strong indications that it has tacitly complied with this calamitous condition. According to numerous press reports, the text of the invitation accepted by Israel states that “the goal of the negotiations is to implement the two-state solution on the basis of the ’67 lines with minor land swaps.”
So whether Israel acknowledges it or not, it has agreed to participate in a discussion on the establishment of a Palestinian state whose frontiers will be the indefensible pre-1967 lines – unless otherwise (mutually) agreed.
Quite apart from the fact that the entire issue of land swaps has a demeaning ring of “bartering birthrights,” the fact that they will have to be “mutually agreed” provides the Palestinians veto power over any deviation from the pre- 1967 “Auschwitz borders” in the delineation of their proposed state.
Staggering surrender
The decision taken last Sunday represents a staggering strategic surrender by Israel.
After all, as recently as May 2011, Netanyahu defiantly stood up, publicly, to Barack Obama and rejected the very formula (sans the prisoner release) he is now accepting.
Netanyahu’s courageous eloquence won him massive support across the US American political system including from senior Democrats such as Sen. Harry Reid who in effect endorsed his defiance of Obama at the AIPAC conference that took place at the time in Washington.
All this – and more – has now been irrevocably lost by a decision, substantively unjustifiable and morally indefensible, that will confer on the government the “privilege” of entering into negotiations on a formula for making the country geographically untenable, with an entity headed by a soon-to-be octogenarian leader, who is now in the ninth year of his four-year term, and whose authority is rejected by a wide swathe of the population he purports to represent.
You couldn’t make this stuff up.
Especially when you stop to consider that it is the Palestinians, allegedly suffering under the yoke of “occupation,” who should have the greater interest in pursuing the reopening of talks and hence be expected to be the party ready to make concessions, rather than delaying them by making exorbitant demands of Israel.
But this act from the theater of the absurd has far more profound and pernicious consequences than the exasperation, outrage and demoralizing despair that it generates in wide segments of the Israeli public and of the Jewish people across the globe.
Making Israel a laughing stock
It is difficult to overstate the gravity of the ramifications of the Netanyahu government’s decision.
It sends an unequivocal message to the Palestinians, the Arabs and the international community that no position articulated by Israel need be taken seriously. For Israel has proved that no matter how outlandish, outrageous, macabre or scandalous the demands of its adversaries, the Jews will eventually submit – irrespective of how resolutely they feign opposition to them initially.
The positions that Israel has now retreated to would have been unthinkable barely a decade and a half ago. Judging from the vision that Yitzhak Rabin articulated for a permanent agreement with the Palestinians in his final address to the Knesset in 1995, it is highly plausible to surmise that they would have been contemptuously rejected by the Noble Peace laureate, who at the time was fiercely attacked by then-leader of the opposition Netanyahu – for being overly concessionary.
As I said, you couldn’t make this stuff up.
By failing to withstand pressure, Israel has not only invited inevitable further pressure, but has crippled its ability to conduct effective negotiations in the future.
No matter what fork-tongued, fallacious flattery it might reap in the short run for its “flexibility,” Israel has made itself a laughing stock, unable to adhere to any principle, no matter how crucial, for any length of time.
Rebuffing ‘rationalizations’
Netanyahu-apologists have attempted to rationalize Israel’s capitulation by advancing various hypotheses as to the underlying reasons for such seemingly unreasonable conduct.
Typically, these attempts include one of two interrelated contentions (or both): Either that (a) irresistible pressure was exerted to extract the concessions backed up with threats of severe punitive measures if such concessions were not forthcoming; or that (b) Israel had to sacrifice certain strategic and security interests to preserve other, and presumably more vital, ones, such as stopping the Iranian nuclear weapons program.
Both these contentions are highly unpersuasive – but even if they are true they do not justify Netanyahu’s continued incumbency.
They are unpersuasive because if the Obama administration really considered some objective, say, the prevention of a nuclear Iran, an important US interest, would it condition the pursuit of that interest on the release of over 100 Judeocidal monsters? And if Israel refused, would the US forgo the pursuit of its own interests merely to punish its alleged ally, rather than pressure other parties to forgo their unreasonable preconditions? On the other hand, if the administration does not consider the prevention of a nuclear Iran an important US interest, does anyone really believe it would condone an Israeli attack on Iranian facilities, even if Israel did release 100 terrorists?
Dereliction of duty
But even if these claims are true, and intense pressure was in fact exerted and/or a strategic tradeoff had to be made in the situation that Secretary of State John Kerry’s persistence precipitated, they are still irrelevant to the inadmissibility of Netanyahu’s continued incumbency.
For although such situations were not only anticipated, but explicitly predicted, no mechanisms were put in place to contend with them. For decades Israel has left itself to be mauled in the court of public opinion, making it seemingly isolated, and vulnerable to international pressures aimed at wringing perilous concessions.
However, this not an inevitable consequence of some law of nature, but the results of decades of dereliction of duty, of neglect to establish an adequate public diplomacy endeavor that could contend, curtail and counter such pressures.
As the eloquent British columnist Melanie Phillips scolded in a brilliant but scathing interview on Israeli TV: “Israel has made itself defenseless… Israel has vacated the battlefield of ideas …”
Never a truer word was spoken.
In recent years, public support for Israel in the US has been near record levels, outstripping that for the Palestinians by a factor of 4 to 1. Yet this massive advantage has not been mobilized (purposely?) to impact US policy-making toward Israel.
After all, given the level of support Israel enjoys in the US, only incompetence, indolence or worse, can explain why any attempt to extort concessions that clearly imperil its security would not be so politically toxic that no administration would contemplate it.
Over the past five years I have been beseeching the Israeli government – at both senior ministerial and professional levels – to build appropriate mechanisms to deal with precisely such scenarios as have arisen in recent months – but to no avail.
Rationale for resignation
Much has been left unsaid – including broaching questions such as “If not Bibi, who?” and how his resignation can be effected in practice. Nor have I elaborated on the disturbing “catalogue of capitulation” that has characterized his incumbency over the years. However, the constraints of space compel me to forgo.
Suffice it to say that Netanyahu has now embraced a policy he spent decades berating, resisting and mobilizing publics at home and abroad to oppose. He thus has either failed to implement a policy he believes in, or is implementing a policy he does not believe in.
Whichever is true, this is an untenable situation which cannot continue.
Accordingly the only act of true leadership left for Netanyahu is to resign, and to resign without delay.
Martin Sherman (www.martinsherman.net) is the founder and executive director of the Israel Institute for Strategic Studies. (www.strategicisrael.org)
Felix Quigley Said:
Felix Quigley Said:
Felix Quigley Said:
You ignored me,Honeybee,Mr Q, Iam insulted to say the lest. Iam the only one with a stinger!
Mr Ross your words were already twisted. You portray yourself as a man of ideas yet you have no problem with the filth here attacking Trotskyism. And the violence therein.
Your repeated question asking what does Trotskyism offer the Jews? It offers a programme to the Jewish people to save them from total disaster. Nohing more nothing less.
As to you being interested in that programme I woulld say not, that in fact you are aligned with US Imperialism. And you are already aligned with Mr D from Canada who spews violence against Trotskyism.
As with Yamit you did not defend Mubarak in order to keep the Muslim Brotherhood from power. THAT was the position of Obama in essence.
Strip it down you and Yamit types are creatures of US Imperialism, that is of capitalism in its advanced stage of decay.
Your Canadian friend is violent, that is the problem.
I made a record of that, that is all I said. I have a right to record those who are violent towards Trotskyism.
By not contesting those violent threats against Trotskyism you align yourselves with that violence.
bernard ross Said:
SPIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Felix Quigley Said:
this may or may not be correct. It is one of several possibilities I said might be on the boards. However, you twisted my words and omitted the rest of the possibilities which I mentioned. I even mentioned the possibility that the GCC/AQ mercenaries might attack Israel especially if they failed to be successful against Syria or Iran. Right now it appears that Irans proxies of syria and hezbullah are being softened up for something.
If you twist my words and put words in my mouth then you should expect an unpleasant reaction.
What is it that the US will do which you refer to as “the opposite”. Will the US attack Israel? Please be more specific.
bernard ross Said:
Felix Quigley Said:
You keep repeating that the Jews should embrace trotskyism therefore I ask the logical and relevant question: Why is “Trotskyism good for the Jews”? Its a simple, and entirely relevant, question so stop avoiding it.
Felix Quigley Said:
I imagine the record is filed with the KGB.
Felix Quigley Said:
the last resort of a man who keeps repeating that the Jews should embrace Trotskyism and yet can’t answer the simple, obvious, relevant and most pertinent question that anyone would ask:
Why is Trotskyism good for the Jews?
Trotskyism might, or might not, be good for the Jews but it is obvious that you have no answer.
Perhaps trotsky should employ a more articulate agent 🙂
Felix Quigley Said:
You will never find me Quiley!!!!!!!!! I live deep in the Texas canyon lands where even the Noble Comanches have never been. Guarded by the last of Pancho Villa’s men and the national bird of Texas”THE GREAT TERADYCTLE”!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get real Ross. Why would I answer a question which you write yourself and then repeat in every post you make. I NEVER SAID IT AND WOULD NOT.
I did say though that Trotskyism was not a recipe. Trotskyism is an approach to the problems of the world which is based on an analysis of political issues and events.
It is only that. It is not a recipe. It is not a crystal ball. It is simply an analysis of reality.
We on http://www.themarxistblog.com put forward our analyses. We never would say Trotskyism is a medicine to be taken to cure something.
It does offer a way forward though and people can read what we say and make up their own minds. Having read it they will agree or disagree.
It is a free world and we have a right to offer our point of view to Jews and to anybody else in this world.
So your question is stupid full stop.
My views are contained in the few contributions on this thread, views which you completely ignore.
I cannot help that and I cannot go on repeating them either.
Except this point. I repeat that the US is not going to attack Iran or help Israel to attack Iran, the opposite in fact. The situation is much closer to the reality uncovered by Francisco Gil White when he investigated the role of Roosevelt in the Holocaust, which showed the US as being the eager ally of Hitler in the mass slaughter of 6 millions of poor Jews in the Holocaust.
I have made a record of the attacks of this Canadian man, and the support that you, Honeybee, Yamit and Shy Guy have made and given to him in those attacks. It is down there in black and white and as long as I live I will not associate with any of you ever. I do in all truth consider you as political scum and not representative of the great name of Zionism.
Felix Quigley Said:
you keep spelling his name incorrectly. Your conclusion of course is that we are all a bunch of fascists as opposed to perhaps the problem lies with you. Everyone in their own way has been trying to give you hints, you don’t seem to get it.
Felix Quigley Said:
you have no points, only the mantra Trotskyism. Answer the question in plain english without obfuscation:
Why is “Trotskyism good for the Jews”?
Its a simple question stop avoiding it.
Felix Quigley Said:
those who lie and rwist what people say deserve abuse. those who, like yourself, hurl abuse deserve abuse. those who keep avoiding the simple question: “Why is Trotskyism good for the Jews”…………..?
Felix Quigley Said:
You better call up the stasi
@ bernard ross:
Bernard, have you bee mean to Felix and hurt his feelings. Must I send you to the washroom for “time out”.
More abuse of me personally and of Trotskyism from Ross.
I have taken what he says and I disagree. I am twisting nothing. It comes down to this which is the direct opposite of what Ross says: I say the US is on the side of Iran and is not trying to dislodge its Bomb.
First of all he twists the use of the word vision. A vision is not a hope as he says. Especially as I will show not in the context I used it.
A vision is what it says, an ability to foresee. Take the context I did not mean dream, I did not mean prophesy, I meant a mental vision which entails far sightedness.
To go back over what I said, that is the context. Lenin certainly had it in early 1917. As I said he was almost on his own but he had a vision. The great millions to take a convenient date in January 1917 were not on his mental wavelength at all. But he had a vision. He had the confidence of a small number of cadres. Those cadres had won over a long time before the confidence of a certain number of workers and intellectuals in Russia and in the Diaspora.
Lenin was concerned with Class. Israel though must be overall concerned with nation, specifically the self-preservation of nation
You can say I am drawing a parallel, but hopefully not as dogma but as intelligence.
Immediately Pipes suggests replace Netanyahu with a leader called Danon, another from the Parliamentarian swine, who know nothing and can do nothing.
As I said Israel needs to scrap the Knesset and have 5 people with that kind of vision to lead the country. Martin could well pick them. So could Francisco, easily, especially if they follow the principle I suggest.
I suggested what I thought could be the guiding thought: that Jews in Israel do not suffer from Antisemitism
THAT should be what Israel should do, not worry about areas a b or c, about Obama’s foolish moves with countries like Saudi Arabia etc. Why should that be of interest to a Jew or to any of us fighters against Obama.
We know his record. He supported the Muslim Brotherhood against Mubarak and opened the door to the Muslim Brotherhood, this in turn gave a big push to the Muslim Brotherhood everywhere, especially in Libya and Syria. I have stated what I think, the US Government seeks to destroy Israel and the Jews and promote Iran AND its Bomb. All the evidence of the past as brilliant analyst Gil White has showed
Why do you take things so personally Ross! Why do you always go to yourself and ignore the main points I made in my piece.
You seem to be a man with a very thin skin. The point I make is that your political line seems to me to be diametrically opposed to that of Francisco Gil White.
Otherwise why would you be opening up the avenue that Obama with the Sunnis seek to clip the Bomb from Iran.
Or that thereby these Fascist Arabs such as in the Gulf States are going to rein in Hamas or Hizbullah.
In opposition to such harmful speculation by you Ross I put forward an immediate and concrete solution of the way forward WHICH YOU IGNORE TOTALLY
I firmly believe that if such a committee to replace Netanyahu would follow that simple principle, that Jews in Israel be not allowed to suffer from Antisemitism in any way, would transform politics.
I am sure that Israelis are fed up with the Knesset and would welcome this change, and this simple principle that I stated is not going to go away.
Mr Ross I note the foulness of the most horrific attack by Michael Dervolin on another thread here at this point in this thread because it is related, and how in fact you Ross did not and do not separate yourself from Dervolin, but along with Yamit, Honeybee and Shy Guy you have all showed you support that attack.
It is truly truly the most horrible attack on the life of Trotsky. It is in fact the equal to anything that Goebbels wrote about the communists. Remember that the Nazis did not just attack Jews the Nazis also attacked all on the left, on a very wide swathe, but especially the Marxists.
Where does this come out of (I refer to the attack by Dervolin). It certainly has never come from Ted, and the Jewish Virtual Library has a very fair article on Trotsky
I maintain very strongly that the Zionist movement is a progressive movement and is open to all kinds of political thought.
But it is also open to Fascists or what my friend CA calls uber nationalists.
That applies to Dervolin and to those who got behind Dervolin. My friend CA was correct. There is a very dangerous clique operating iside Israpundit.
Felix Quigley Said:
now i understand how trotskyism works. You twist everything I say into something I cannot recognize. also, you appear clueless of the difference between observing and speculating on facts and trumpeting a solution or dogma. I should not be surprised because you always mix up facts with your dogma.
Felix Quigley Said:
More of your dishonest twisting of words. I identified possible outcomes and also I specifically identified “what could go wrong”, in an email to Yamit when he asked the question “what could go wrong”. I am going to have to say that you are either a hopeless idiot or a liar.
Felix Quigley Said:
I am leaning towards you being an idiot. This statement clearly shows that you have no idea of the difference between a vision of what one wants to be and a series of speculations regarding possible outcomes flowing from existent facts. Your ideological trotsky dogma appears to have totally muddled any ability to distinguish between speculations and visions(hopes, dreams).
Give up the dogma and try something less dangerous like, uhh………….crack. It will probably reduce your paranoid delusions.
Felix Quigley Said:
Re-read the above you are begining to babble.
Martin Sherman has the gift of summing a whole complex situation in one paragraph
“But not in Israel. Here the demands are different and more taxing than elsewhere, the margins of error narrower, and the cost of error not only greater, but potentially tragic and terminal.”
This whole issue of leadership needs to be depersonalised from Netanyahu. There is not ONE Israeli PM that has never capitulated.
The above paragraph by Martin explains the reason why. There is so much, so much, pressure hanging over Israeli leaders. There is the shadow also of the Holocaust there all the time.
I too like Sherman have continually defended Netanyahu AGAINST ANTISEMITISM and there has been much of that in Europe.
To soften this I have often said that Bibi should be removed from PM and given a job articulating another leadership’s views views to an English speaking audience. But not direct leadership. Ambition has led him astray.
At the beginning of 1917 Lenin was almost alone. The people in Russia, either farmers or workers, were nowhere near his strategic thoughts.
What Lenin had though was 1. A vision in his head of what could happen and what then the working class could or must do and 2. He had the confidence of a cadre, a small cadre and 3. The advanced workers knew of Lenin and had trust in him over a long time (here it takes little imagination to switch the nation Israel to make sense of the above)
And yet he won. Millions came to follow his thoughts as the crisis bit.
We bark up the wrong tree here. Yes of course Bibi must be removed asap. On the basis not that he is a bad man but he does not have a vision for Israel.
There is no alternative. Now, right now there is none but there can be. In other words there must be a vision created. A vision of what Israel wants to be.
Not this Rossian nonsense of A B C, of “proxies”!!!, and whatever comes out of that fevered brain.
So what is the vision for Israel.
Jews decide. My input as a non Jew is that Jews be able to worship their God, if they wish, but above all Jews not be molested in any way by Antisemitism in their Homeland.
Sounds simplistic. But it has big implications.
It means basically taking no shit from Antisemites. That leads to where it leads. I do not wish to say to war against Antisemites but as a realist I think it is inevitable, and that is the sad reality.
I say scrap the Knesset. Scrap parliamentary elections. Get 5 good men or women to run the country as a committee on that basis, Jews in total control of their situation, the 5 good men chosen (as a real possibility) by Martin Sherman.
Hold a referendum among Jews to back the idea. Only Jews. They would give it a go.
PS Some reports a while back told me that there is great poverty among poor Jews in Israel. My knowledge is sketchy but that does ring true.
I am told that Israeli Arabs sponge a lot on the system. Is that true or Is the Pope a Catholic!
Follow Martin’s vision and there will be no Arabs.
Also schemes such as the Sharon wall. How about instead of that donating lead!
A gentleman at his home in Ireland was approached menacingly by some scrap “merchants” and asked had he any…lead. He answered indeed I have sirs, went inside his house, came out with his shotgun and let them know he had lead, you know instead of Sharon’s wall THAT lead!
Ross writes:
Obama and all US Governments since and including Reagan buy nothing from Fatah/PLO they direct the Fatah/PLO, they simply own them
Question 2 has the same answer. It is an amazing “theory” of Ross where he posits that the US and PA are riding to the rescue of Israel from the Iranian Bomb. And in on this wonderful scheme right out of the Rossian brain are the Arab states. No probs then according to our wonderful Ross in the coming 9 months of the Rossian calendar al Jizz is going to be on the side of Israel against Iran. So Ted and Yamit relax!
If you were given a million bucks and asked to make up such nonsense you couldn’t do as good a job as Senor Ross!
@ yamit82:
No no more like a low grow just one passes by, very personal.
honeybee Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHTxA_1eRvc
honeybee Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYy_cH9a3kc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8XWQjzBEFY
yamit82 Said:
Shoot***shovel**shut-up
http://youtu.be/pqgr6ZzB140
@ honeybee:
honeybee Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPtuQHout3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxgc9J5Obt8
@ yamit82:
Tex is rolling on the floor.
yamit82 Said:
http://youtu.be/Ryh_wk2ba9g
Its an even trade!!!!!!!!!
yamit82 Said:
It was a Mexican Wolf whistle, alot more tetesterone!!!Cabron
honeybee Said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNlJ_ywHZzE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17j3OBSnV_k
honeybee Said:
Beat this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBpthkOFPvA
Love mercenary broads, so predictable.
yamit82 Said:
that’s what I though,they are becoming so transparent that even I a “Bear of Little Brain” can figure it out!!
yamit82 Said:
Its important because I asked! Never answer a question with a question.!
honeybee Said:
No it’s probably meant to reenforce fear in the American public to distract from other issues. Like Benghazi, IRS, NSA etc. Can’t recall all of the current scandals. When nothings happens they will take credit for thwarting a major attack. Win Win for the government and Obama.
dunno??? Why is it important? Don’t know how you could make an objective comparison. Different training and different weapons and equipment all must be factored.
@ yamit82:
Today I was whistled at,at the flea market,so I don’t need you or Tex!! Except for the money of course!!
Now answer the questions.
yamit82 Said:
I can!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bernard ross Said:
Benghazi – Cutting Through The Smoke … And Understanding Why John McCain Is Covering For The President….
Why I put this link here because of the Turkish involvement….
Read all of it and links.
Looks like this is bigger than Iran-Contra and bigger than Watergate. Can’t believe the Republicans are not intentional bumbling idiots
@ yamit82:
YOU NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS:
1 who is better Russian Spetnatz-Navy Seals-Israeli Specia Forces or a they equal
2 Is closing of the embassies and traveler warnings nessary.
bernard ross Said:
Not so: the intelligence communities in Israel over two years ago began to withhold Intel from the Americans because of the leaks then.
I would not be surprised that the attack was known beforehand by the Americans because stupid ‘American agent’ (vassal)BB agreed to notify the Americans before Israel took such actions, got word to Assad or the Russians to remove the missiles from their launchers before the attack.
I say this with some insight as to how it works.
The American Intelligence community is as anti Israel as anyone and cannot ever be trusted. I’m not sure they acted on their own or from orders from the WH. Obama is too stupid to get involved with nuts and bolts but I refer to all his Muslim and commie friends he put into key positions and as advisers.
Sam Powers was approved by the Senate. So much for the (‘feared invincible’) Jewish pro Israel 😉 Lobby. 🙂
bernard ross Said:
Silver with five prongs.
Erdogan cancels Gaza trip after running afoul of Egypt government
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Erdogan-cancels-Gaza-trip-after-running-afoul-of-Egypt-government-322005?rz=n_04Aug13
this buffoon cant get no satisfaction
does he have any friends or allies left? 🙂
@ bernard ross:
Yes – just google Yogi quotes
yamit82 Said:
the last paragraph made this mysterious comment
@ rongrand:
great quotes, but I thought you were talking about yogi bear, dumb me 🙂
Is there a book of these quotes?
reply 48 and 50 to Ted in moderation
@ bernard ross:
Bernard, you have to understand Yogi.
The time the NY City Mayor’s wife Mrs. Lindsay – remarked to Yogi,“You certainly look cool.” – Yogi Berra – “Thanks, you don’t look so hot yourself.”
or
“I knew I was going to take the wrong train, so I left early
or
Phil Rizzuto – “Hey Yogi I think we’re lost.” – Yogi Berra – “Ya, but we’re making great time!”
or
You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I’m not hungry enough to eat six.”
my 2 replies to TED 48 and 50 in moderation