Jewish Partisan Song- “Never say this is the end”

I was born in Canada but my parents and their entire families were born in Poland. Some got out before the holocaust. Some got out after the holocaust. Most didn’t get out. So I grew up in a jewish world that was very close to the holocaust. I remember well this song and others that stirred the soul. Ted Belman

English Translation:

Never say this is the final road for you,
Though leadened skies may cover over days of blue.
As the hour that we longed for is so near,
Our step beats out the message: we are here!

From lands so green with palms to lands all white with snow.
We shall be coming with our anguish and our woe,
And where a spurt of our blood fell on the earth,
There are courage and our spirit have rebirth!

The early morning sun will brighten our day,
And yesterday with our foe will fade away,
But if the sun delays and in the east remains –
This song as password generations must remain.

This song was written with our blood and not with lead,
It’s not a little tune that birds sing overhead,
This song a people sang amid collapsing walls,
With pistols in hand they heeded to the call.

Therefore never say the road now ends for you,
Though leadened skies may cover over days of blue.
As the hour that we longed for is so near,
Our step beats out the message: we are here

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  1. Samuel, since 99.5% of the human race sucks…

    Comment by marylou — May 6, 2010 @ 7:57 am

    marylou, we are kindred spirits.

  2. Do goyim really suck? An appraisal based on today’s news:

    America: Equips the palestinian army, joins with muslims in declaring Jewish Israel must relinquish its nukes, investigates its Jews for “dual loyalty”, keeps Jewish Jonathan Pollard in jail for life to set an example, insults Netanyahu (but not Ahmedinajad).

    The UN: makes Jewish Israel a pariah state (the only member without a regional affiliation), demands Israel relinquish its nukes, declares Jewish Israel to be an international war criminal for defending itself against unprovoked savage muslim attacks, maintains millions of palestinians as so-called refugees.

    Muslims: live to destroy Jewish Israel, declare Jewish Israel must be eliminated, demands Jewish Israel gives up its nukes while building their own, demands Jewish Israel commit suicide by retreating to 1949 borders, and flood itself with millions of phoney refugees, while handing over Jerusalem to the muslims. Hamas, Hizbollah, and Syria, subsidized by Iran, stock up with missiles intended to destroy as many Israeli Jews in as short a time as possible. (America, the EU, and the UN just stand by and watch, the same as when german christan hitler was at work).

    The EU: fully supports the destruction of Jewish Israel and funds groups working towards that aim. Spain and England want to arrest Jews as war criminals, and to boycott Jewish Israel.

    Russia: building an Iranian nuke plant while supplying Iran with weapons to thwart an Israeli pre-emptive strike.

    And support for the Jews among the goyim? Not much that I can see, and not very effective.

    My conclusion, as a Jew, still stands: goyim suck.

    Observation: G-d must love the goyim, because He made so many of them. Jewish answer: “G-d did not embrace you (the Jews) and choose you because you are the most numerous of the nations, for in fact you are the smallest of the nations. Rather, it is because of His love for you.” (Deuteronomy 7:7).

    When G-d looks at the world He created through Heaven’s Eyes, then size doesn’t matter. The goyim fear most of all that Jews, in their hearts, feel that they are the stars, and the goyim just the bit players. And if the Torah is the Word of the Creator of the Universe, then they are right. Ohd Aveenu khai. Am Yisrael khai.

  3. The LORD said, “If I find fifty righteous people in the city of Sodom, I will spare the whole place for their sake.”

    Once again he spoke to him, “What if only forty are found there?”
    He said, “For the sake of forty, I will not do it.”

    Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak. What if only thirty can be found there?”
    He answered, “I will not do it if I find thirty there.”

    Then he said, “May the Lord not be angry, but let me speak just once more. What if only ten can be found there?”
    He answered, “For the sake of ten, I will not destroy it.”

    Gen 18

    Note: This argument between Abraham and G-d ended at the number ten.

    So the moral principle is established. When a society or nation is so overwhelmingly wickedly evil, even though there may be a few

    righteous among them they suffer the collective guilt and collective fate of the majority. Shared responsibility and shared retribution.

    I see Germany in such a light. I cannot imagine a better use for our nukes than to see every German city go up with a mushroom cloud. Not that I advocate we doing it today but were it to happen I would not be saddened.

  4. Samuel, since 99.5% of the human race sucks, and German Christians – including Confessing Church pastors like the Bonhoeffers who went to the gallows for your people – no doubt suck twice, I see no reason to prolong this conversation. My own Jewish relatives, who loved my goyish German relatives for their own individual merits rather than hating them for their DNA, would heartily agree. Thanks, Ayn, but I think we’re wasting our breath.

  5. So I concluded then, and have seen nothing to change my mind since: goyim suck, goyim suck, and you know what, goyim suck.

    When I labeled you a fool and a bigot, I vastly overrated you.

    You make peskin seem rational by comparison.

  6. Strange bedfellows:

    1. If muslims say they want to kill Jews, they are considered to be Jew-haters.
    2. If some liberal “Jews” say Jewish Israel is an abomination, then they are Jew-hating Jews.
    3. But if a Jew dares to say that christians are Jew-haters just as bad, and just as evil, as any muslim, or any liberal Jew, if not even worse, than he is a “fool and a bigot”.

    I don’t think so.

    I think he is just being honest and rational and consistent.

    As a kid in america, I saw pictures of emaciated, tortured Jewish kids standing behind the barbed wire of concentration camps established by european christians. They were waiting to be slaughtered, or starved to death, or killed by disease by those european christians, for the “crime of being Jewish”.

    I thought, if I had been there, those christian europeans would have killed me, too.

    And in christian America, with its streets paved with gold, the christian president roosevelt was silent, and his christian generals, eisenhower and the rest, did not nothing to stop it, and pretended they did not know what was happening.

    And christian england tried to sink any ship carrying Jews from sure death in christian europe to a chance for survival in palestine.

    So I concluded then, and have seen nothing to change my mind since: goyim suck, goyim suck, and you know what, goyim suck.

    And if I failed to make my point, it is this: goyim suck.

    Historical note: Many americans of german origin were strongly for christian catholic hitler and the extermination of the Jews (the German American Bund). Among americans of english descent, charles “lucky” lindbergh led the pro-christian hitler, anti-Jewish movement. The american christian sentiment against Jews was so strong, that roosevelt never used the word Jew in his reasons why christian america should fight against christian germany. He was pretty sure that if he said “christian Hitler intends to kill all the Jews”, then most american christians would answer: Good for him. Let him.

    I have zero doubt that if christian hitler had won the war, then the american christians would gladly have helped him kill me and all the american Jews.

    By the way, did I mention that goyim suck?

  7. Even loathsome self-hating pseudo Hebrews sometimes get it right.

    And no one is more loathsome than MJ Rosenberg, who invariably responds to Muslims killing Jews by vilifying Jews.

    Yet here Rosenberg writes accurately – although he remains a steadfast advocate of evil.

    But why wouldn’t Rosy empathize with Palestinians who crave genocide?

    After all, he supported Ho Chi Minh.

    In any event, Rosenberg’s account is sound: American Jews are even more worthless than their leaders.

    UPDATE: NY Times Says That, On Israel, Jews Side With Obama, Not Jewish “Leadership”
    By M.J. Rosenberg – May 4, 2010, 9:50PM

    The shift in Jewish opinion on Israel has finally happened. As predicted (by me, among others) all it took was a Democratic President who made clear that he is going to push Israel hard to make peace precisely because he is pro-Israel.

    And American Jews, given the choice between the President they voted for 80-20% and a self-appointed Jewish “leadership” are backing their President. It doesn’t hurt that younger Jews (like other young Americans) just don’t buy into the ethnic solidarity line. They think for themselves and they see that the Jewish “leadership” is recommending policies that are harmful to America and to Israel.

    It also doesn’t hurt that J Street came along when it did. Who would have thought that Jeremy Ben Ami could take on AIPAC and win? But he has with Barack Obama leading the way. (Congress will lag behind until it grasps what has happened).

    Of course, this wouldn’t be happening but for the disastrous Gaza war, the endless occupation, and the takeover of Israel’s government by the religious right.

    The Jewish “leadership” also deserves blame, or credit, for this shift.

    It is so defensive, so quick to label anyone it does not like an “anti-Semite,” it is so ethnically chauvinist that it essentially no longer has a constituency.

    JJ Goldberg is one of the leading figures in American Jewish journalism. Long-time editor of the Jewish Forward and author of a major (albeit outdated book on the pro-Israel lobby) Goldberg knows the Jewish organizational world backwards and forward.

    And he has concluded that it is a joke.

    Although he does not name his targets, it is clear that he is tallking about AIPAC, the American Jewish Committee and the Anti-Defamation League.

    Also, read another fine Ha’aretz piece on how one rightwing Republican, Ron Lauder — now leading anti-Obama efforts in the Jewish community — became a Jewish “leader.” He bought the position and he is using it to advance GOP interests.

    Here’s Goldberg on a Jewish organizational structure that “consists mostly of a handful of big-budget organizations and assorted tycoons and activists speaking in our names and defending what they think are our interests.

    These are the two best pieces I’ve seen on the hoax called the “Jewish leadership.” Read them and you’ll see one third of the reasons American Jews are finally getting smart about the Middle East. The other two thirds are (1) Israeli policies and (2) President Obama.

    Goldberg excerpt:

    And while we may not pay them much attention, others do. They’re recognized in Washington, Berlin, Cairo and beyond as the representative voice of America’s Jews. Princes and prime ministers continually beat a path to their doors, seeking to trade favors. In the last month alone they have variously hosted America’s secretary of state, national security adviser, White House chief of staff and chief of the Central Command, the celebrated General David Petraeus, all coming to pay court and seek their — and presumably our — good will. How do the leaders of this network decide what to say? It’s a mixture of expressing their own beliefs, following Jerusalem’s lead, consulting their boards and big donors, and — here’s the kicker — listening to the Jews. That is, they read their mail, take phone calls and address gatherings.

    The people they hear from, naturally, are the ones who show up. And since most of us don’t bother, their public tends to be a self-selected group of the angriest, most frightened and most insistent among us. They hear from folks who are itching to warn them of the devious Arab mind, the evils of France, Europe and liberals and, lately, of Obama’s Muslim roots and nefarious designs.

    Check out the piece in Ha’aretz. It’s damn smart. Maybe it will help the White House understand that there is no need to pay attention to those men behind the curtain because they represent precisely themselves.

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/04/top_jewish_journalist_the_jewish_leadership_is_a_j/?ref=fpblg

    Leftist Jews.

    A lesser version of lemmings.

  8. I have a whole shitload of drachmas I am willing to let go cheap interested?

    A Greek crisis is coming to America

    By Niall Ferguson

    It began in Athens. It is spreading to Lisbon and Madrid. But it would be a grave mistake to assume that the sovereign debt crisis that is unfolding will remain confined to the weaker eurozone economies. For this is more than just a Mediterranean problem with a farmyard acronym. It is a fiscal crisis of the western world. Its ramifications are far more profound than most investors currently appreciate.

    There is of course a distinctive feature to the eurozone crisis. Because of the way the European Monetary Union was designed, there is in fact no mechanism for a bail-out of the Greek government by the European Union, other member states or the European Central Bank (articles 123 and 125 of the Lisbon treaty). True, Article 122 may be invoked by the European Council to assist a member state that is “seriously

    threatened with severe difficulties caused by natural disasters or exceptional occurrences beyond its control”, but at this point nobody wants to pretend that Greece’s yawning deficit was an act of God. Nor is there a way for Greece to devalue its currency, as it would have done in the pre-EMU days of the drachma. There is not even a mechanism for Greece to leave the eurozone.

    That leaves just three possibilities: one of the most excruciating fiscal squeezes in modern European history – reducing the deficit from 13 per cent to 3 per cent of gross domestic product within just three years; outright default on all or part of the Greek government’s debt; or (most likely, as signalled by German officials on Wednesday) some kind of bail-out led by Berlin. Because none of these options is very appealing, and because any decision about Greece will have implications for Portugal, Spain and possibly others, it may take much horse-trading before one can be reached.

    Yet the idiosyncrasies of the eurozone should not distract us from the general nature of the fiscal crisis that is now afflicting most western economies. Call it the fractal geometry of debt: the problem is essentially the same from Iceland to Ireland to Britain to the US. It just comes in widely differing sizes.

    What we in the western world are about to learn is that there is no such thing as a Keynesian free lunch. Deficits did not “save” us half so much as monetary policy – zero interest rates plus quantitative easing – did. First, the impact of government spending (the hallowed “multiplier”) has been much less than the proponents of stimulus hoped. Second, there is a good deal of “leakage” from open economies in a globalised world. Last, crucially, explosions of public debt incur bills that fall due much sooner than we expect

    For the world’s biggest economy, the US, the day of reckoning still seems reassuringly remote. The worse things get in the eurozone, the more the US dollar rallies as nervous investors park their cash in the “safe haven” of American government debt. This effect may persist for some months, just as the dollar and Treasuries rallied in the depths of the banking panic in late 2008.

    Yet even a casual look at the fiscal position of the federal government (not to mention the states) makes a nonsense of the phrase “safe haven”. US government debt is a safe haven the way Pearl Harbor was a safe haven in 1941.

    Even according to the White House’s new budget projections, the gross federal debt will exceed 100 per cent of GDP in just two years’ time. This year, like last year, the federal deficit will be around 10 per cent of GDP. The long-run projections of the Congressional Budget Office suggest that the US will never again run a balanced budget. That’s right, never.

    The International Monetary Fund recently published estimates of the fiscal adjustments developed economies would need to make to restore fiscal stability over the decade ahead. Worst were Japan and the UK (a fiscal tightening of 13 per cent of GDP). Then came Ireland, Spain and Greece (9 per cent). And in sixth place? Step forward America, which would need to tighten fiscal policy by 8.8 per cent of GDP to satisfy the IMF.

    Explosions of public debt hurt economies in the following way, as numerous empirical studies have shown. By raising fears of default and/or currency depreciation ahead of actual inflation, they push up real interest rates. Higher real rates, in turn, act as drag on growth, especially when the private sector is also heavily indebted – as is the case in most western economies, not least the US.

    Although the US household savings rate has risen since the Great Recession began, it has not risen enough to absorb a trillion dollars of net Treasury issuance a year. Only two things have thus far stood between the US and higher bond yields: purchases of Treasuries (and mortgage-backed securities, which many sellers essentially swapped for Treasuries) by the Federal Reserve and reserve accumulation by the Chinese monetary authorities.

    But now the Fed is phasing out such purchases and is expected to wind up quantitative easing. Meanwhile, the Chinese have sharply reduced their purchases of Treasuries from around 47 per cent of new issuance in 2006 to 20 per cent in 2008 to an estimated 5 per cent last year. Small wonder Morgan Stanley assumes that 10-year yields will rise from around 3.5 per cent to 5.5 per cent this year. On a gross federal debt fast approaching $15,000bn, that implies up to $300bn of extra interest payments – and you get up there pretty quickly with the average maturity of the debt now below 50 months.

    The Obama administration’s new budget blithely assumes real GDP growth of 3.6 per cent over the next five years, with inflation averaging 1.4 per cent. But with rising real rates, growth might well be lower. Under those circumstances, interest payments could soar as a share of federal revenue – from a tenth to a fifth to a quarter.

    Last week Moody’s Investors Service warned that the triple A credit rating of the US should not be taken for granted. That warning recalls Larry Summers’ killer question (posed before he returned to government): “How long can the world’s biggest borrower remain the world’s biggest power?”

    On reflection, it is appropriate that the fiscal crisis of the west has begun in Greece, the birthplace of western civilization. Soon it will cross the channel to Britain. But the key question is when that crisis will reach the last bastion of western power, on the other side of the Atlantic.

    The writer is a contributing editor of the FT and author of ‘The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World‘

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    A bail-out for Greece is just the beginning

    By Martin Wolf

    Published: May 4 2010 20:13 | Last updated: May 4 2010 20:13

    Desperate times; desperate measures. After months of costly delay, the eurozone has come up with an enormous package of support for Greece. By bringing in the International Monetary Fund, at Germany’s behest, it has obtained some additional resources and a better programme. But is it going to work? Alas, I have huge doubts.

    Desperate times; desperate measures. After months of costly delay, the eurozone has come up with an enormous package of support for Greece. By bringing in the International Monetary Fund, at Germany’s behest, it has obtained some additional resources and a better programme. But is it going to work? Alas, I have huge doubts.

    So what is the programme? In outline, it is a package of €110bn ($143bn) (equivalent to slightly more than a third of Greece’s outstanding debt), €30bn of which will come from the IMF (far more than normally permitted) and the rest from the eurozone. This would be enough to take Greece out of the market, if necessary, for more than two years. In return, Greece has promised a fiscal consolidation of 11 per cent of gross domestic product over three years, on top of the measures taken earlier, with the aim of reaching a 3 per cent deficit by 2014, down from 13.6 per cent in 2009. Government spending measures are to yield savings of 5¼ per cent of GDP over three years: pensions and wages will be reduced, and then frozen for three years, with payment of seasonal bonuses abolished. Tax measures are to yield 4 per cent of GDP. Even so, public debt is forecast to peak at 150 per cent of GDP.

    In important respects, the programme is far less unrealistic than its intra-European predecessor. Gone is the fantasy that there would be a mild economic contraction this year, followed by a return to steady growth. The new programme apparently envisages a cumulative decline in GDP of about 8 per cent, though such forecasts are, of course, highly uncertain. Similarly, the old plan was founded on the assumption that Greece could slash its budget deficit to less than 3 per cent of GDP by the end of 2012. The new plan sets 2014 as the target year.

    Two other features of what has been decided are noteworthy: first, there is to be no debt restructuring; and, second, the European Central Bank will suspend the minimum credit rating required for the Greek government-backed assets used in its liquidity operations, thereby offering a lifeline to vulnerable Greek banks.

    So does this programme look sensible, either for Greece or the eurozone? Yes and no in both cases.

    Let us start with Greece. It has now lost access to the markets (see chart). Thus, the alternative to agreeing to this package (whether or not it can be implemented) would be default. The country would then no longer pay debt interest, but it would have to close its primary fiscal deficit (the deficit before interest payments), of 9-10 per cent of GDP, at once. This would be a far more brutal tightening than Greece has now agreed. Moreover, with default, the banking system would collapse. Greece is right to promise the moon, to gain the time to eliminate its primary deficit more smoothly.

  9. CUFI’s Robert Stearns warns of Evangelical shift to the Left

    Stearns, a passionate speaker, received very healthy applause as a welcome and applause periodically erupted throughout his address.

    He began by making mention of the “hundreds of millions” of evangelicals supporting a democratic, Jewish Israel and an undivided Jerusalem.

    [JI comments: Those figures are of interest, as Pastor Hagee of CUFI claims 50 million evangelicals. Meanwhile the World Evangelical Alliance (WEA) claims to represent 420 million and that organization has issued a statement on behalf of their constituency calling for ongoing efforts to evangelize the Jews. Stephen Strang, another CUFI regional director, has endorsed that statement].

    Stearns spoke briefly of “Rosh Chodesh Adar”, Purim, “Hamans in every generation” and “Hashem’s” presence.

    He then went on to say that with all due respect to the great efforts of the Jewish community in America, he would argue that it is the evangelicals and the evangelical culture which is to be credited for America’s staunch support of Israel (for emphasis, Stearns repeats this comment later in his address – perhaps to stress how terribly dependent Israel is on evangelical support.) He illustrated how engrained evangelical religious culture is in America’s heart and background by speaking about Bill Clinton and the directives he received from his dying Southern Baptist pastor – never to abandon Israel.

    [JI comments: 1)While a spirit of evangelism and a fascination with the biblical land of Israel can certainly be credited – to a significant degree – with the staunch support Israel has received from certain sectors in America, it is simply wrong for evangelicals to diminish or to try and supersede the great efforts and role played by the American Jewish community. 2) Stearns’ use of Clinton’s pastor as an example of the depth of evangelical influence tends to backfire when one considers the devastating foreign policy initiatives and consequences that Presidents Clinton and Carter (“America’s first evangelical president”) brought upon Israel.]

    Stearns went on to say that evangelical Christianity is the only growing brand of Christianity in the world and that it is spreading exponentially in Asia, Africa, and Latin America.

    And then he dropped the bomb… 😉

    He cautioned that at this point in time “the evangelical movement is in a place of shifting”. He spoke about “the emergence of a new evangelical left”, “the new progressive evangelicals”, and that they have “a very different view of Israel. He said it was vital to be aware of these forces which are ostensibly operating under “an evangelical umbrella”.

  10. Conclusions

    Taken together, the more than thirteen million unique monthly visitors to Huffington Post, Daily Kos, and Salon represent the opinions of many of the most politically engaged within the American progressive community. The increasing hostility toward Israel and its Jewish supporters on these blogs becomes even more worrisome in light of polling data on the views of such progressives.

    For instance, an aggregate poll[64] by Gallup on American support for Israel by party affiliation, from 2002 to 2006, demonstrated that liberal Democrats are the least supportive of Israel out of five categories: conservative Republican, moderate/liberal Republican, conservative Democrat, moderate Democrat, and liberal Democrat. When asked whether they support Israel, the Palestinians, or neither/don’t know, only among the liberal Democrats did a clear majority of 55 percent either support the Palestinians or respond with “neither/don’t know,” with only 43 percent supporting Israel. Conservative Republicans were the most pro-Israeli, with 78 percent supporting Israel outright. Indeed, many of the more popular conservative blogs/news sites – such as Drudge Report, Newsmax, Townhall, and Hot Air – tend to be supportive of Israel. They also are largely free of the strain of paleoconservative thought, exemplified by The American Conservative, that has historically been hostile to Jews and Israel.

    There is even evidence to suggest that the outright anti-Semitism featured in this report is consistent with the increasing identification with such views among the American progressive community as a whole. A Stanford University poll[65] in May-June 2009 gauged the extent to which anti-Semitism was increasing as a result of the U.S. economic crisis. Respondents who were self-described Democrats were nearly twice as likely as those who identified themselves as Republicans to agree that Jews, as a group, were primarily responsible for the economic meltdown. The authors called this finding “somewhat surprising given the presumed higher degree of racial tolerance among liberals and the fact that Jews are a central part of the Democratic Party’s electoral coalition.”

    Seemingly, even for those who deny that hatred of the Jewish state represents a new form of anti-Semitism it would be difficult to defend the manifestations of classic anti-Semitism – staples of dual loyalty, Jewish control, and so – seen in these blogs. Such sentiments hearken back to the racially and religiously based anti-Semitism of centuries past, a historically lethal force that self-styled progressives should ostensibly be in the forefront of resisting. And yet, a blogger with a large national following such as Glenn Greenwald, among others, can bemoan the corrosive effects of “Jewish money” and still be considered a progressive in good standing. This is despite the fact that progressive politics is supposed to entail a commitment to combating bigotry of all kinds and a sensitivity to even subtle negative stereotypes.

    Likening anti-Semitism to pollution, in a Jerusalem Post interview Manfred Gerstenfeld[66] makes a distinction between that “which comes out of a chimney and spreads over a huge area” and that “which comes from the exhaust pipes of millions of cars, each one contributing its little bit.” The former, he says, was characteristic of the Nazi era with its “leader,” Adolf Hitler, as the central cause of the anti-Semitic smoke the world over. The latter, Gerstenfeld claims, characterizes today’s postmodern form of the phenomenon: global but fragmented, with no single leader. Indeed, this aptly describes the new, diffuse media with its myriad of political blogs that lack any central and readily identifiable address, or “boss.” This situation enables the new media to escape the regular and focused scrutiny that previously existed.

    It is impossible to know just how much harm such rhetoric emanating from progressive blogs is causing. But it is time for principled progressives to take a stand against those in their own ideological community who claim to oppose all forms of intolerance but exhibit it blatantly toward Israel and Jews.

    During an appearance by Martin Luther King, Jr. at Harvard University, a student stood up and made a sharply hostile comment about Zionism. King responded: “When people criticize Zionists they mean Jews, you are talking anti-Semitism.”[67]

    Such moral clarity is needed to confront the increasingly acceptable hatred of Israel – and Jews – within the American progressive community.

  11. marylou,

    I would tell you that “I am the forgiving kind of Christianized Jew that you may feel comfortable around” except for this:

    The appropriate phrasing is “I am the forgiving kind of Christianized Jew around whom you may feel comfortable.”

    The unforgiving, non-Christianized Jews tend to butcher the language.

    American Christians have protected rather than victimized Jews, and therefore no need exists to forgive them.

    This may not fit the narrative of unforgiving, non-Christianized Jews, but it does have the benefit of being true.

    No one is defending the Germans.

    Goyim suck. Real Jews know this as Jewish truth, whether they say it out loud or not. There are indeed a few righteous gentiles, but a Jew is always better off playing the odds and assuming every goy he meets sucks until proven otherwise.

    Comment by Samuel Fistel — May 5, 2010 @ 6:40 pm

    yamit may rationalize this despicable bigotry, but I condemn you Fistel as being obnoxiously ignorant.

    You are not a “real Jew”.

    You are a “real fool”.

  12. marylou

    I find it difficult to see your point. Whether Hitler was a practicing Christian, neo pagan or just plain atheist is beside the point.

    Almost 100% of the German nation supported him when he appeared to be winning.

    The Nazis carried out their genocide against the Jewish people as a consequence and in continuity with Christian beliefs and practices for

    over 15 centuries prior to Hitlers rise to power. He made a pact with the Vatican and even gained their support.

    Antisemites from Europe coming to America did not necessarily leave the prejudices and hatred of the Jews at the American border much the

    same as Hispanics today.

    Fistel knows history and he knows Jewish history and like me is not the forgiving kind of Christianized Jew that you may feel comfortable

    around.

    Every Christian in America except some Asiatics are the descendent’s of those who murdered my relatives, or at best apathetically watched

    from the sidelines. You are saying in effect to ignore that small historical truth? In Judaism we unlike you Christians believe in

    collective responsibility and in collective punishment. I also know that given the right set of circumstances economic, social and

    political The Christians would do the same today. human nature has not changed in the short period of 65 years or so.

    The other side of the coin that must be faced is the Christian concept of multiculturalism, that has destroyed much of the Christian moral

    and ethical foundations of America.

    Yes multiculturalism is a Christian concept.

    We Jews do not reject or ignore the fact of the human species, It’s just that human species is too abstract for us and we prioritize our

    concerns mostly inward firstly to our immediate families, then our extended families and lastly what you call humanity .

    In order to preserve Judaism we must ensure first we preserve the vessel,THE JEWS.

  13. Someone has been heavily influenced by U2.

    I love this one.

    Comment by ayn reagan — May 5, 2010 @ 5:26 pm

    Excellent version.

  14. Samuel, listen to Ayn Reagan. Hitler was in fact either an atheist or a neo-pagan. Biblical Christianity and Naziism are in antithesis to one another.

    As for “German” being synonymous with “evil,” remember that the Midwest was settled and kept free largely by the descendants of German farmers, who emigrated because they didn’t like the way things were done in the Old Country. Were they all Nazis too? 2,000 years ago all the world’s English speakers were still inside their Saxon ancestors in Central Europe. 5,000 years ago they were climbing down from the ark. Were they Nazis back then too?

    People who judge others by their DNA or which clump of dirt their ancestors settled on rather than by the choices they make, put themselves in terrible company.

  15. Someone has been heavily influenced by U2.

    I love this one.

    I love Johnny Cash more than U2 but this is the first time I heard Cash rendition. love it thank you so much for it.

    You might enjoy these as well?

    Here

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  16. german nazi christian atheists:

    Saying german christian nazis were actually “atheists, and not christians” is a form of Holocaust denial. It goes hand in hand with saying “the german christian nazis acted independently of the german christian people. The german christian people watched the Jews being taken away, never to to be heard from again, but “had no idea” they were being exterminated by their german christian “atheist” nazi brothers and sisters, who somehow managed to keep the german christian people “clueless”.

    And when the german christian people “finally” realized the truth (I’m shocked! Shocked I say!), only after the war ended, of course, and only after all the Jews had been successfully slaughtered, of course, then they responded to the atrocities of their german atheist nazi brothers and sisters by sitting together with them in christian churches, celebrating every christmas and easter with them, and burying them with full christian rites in christian cemeteries.

    Goyim suck. Real Jews know this as Jewish truth, whether they say it out loud or not. There are indeed a few righteous gentiles, but a Jew is always better off playing the odds and assuming every goy he meets sucks until proven otherwise.

  17. I am writing this in English, and not in Yiddish. Yiddish is basically dead. The german christian nazis exterminated it.

    Lets say that the Nazis murdered a culture. As far as the culture is concerned maybe it’s for the best.

    Re; anti Jewish attitudes in Germany Austria and Switzerland Pls note beklow are not the main incidents of persecution of the Jews and then only the highlights. Jews were killed and persecuted in Germany before Luther, during luther and of course after Luther.

    Lesser Known Highlights of Jewish International
    Relations In The Common Era (an Abbreviated sampling)

    1096 C.E. Ralisbon Massacre

    1140 C.E. Germany Massacres
    1146 C.E. Rhine Valley Massacre
    1147 C.E. Wurzburg Massacre
    1147 C.E. Belitz (Germany)
    1240 C.E. Austria Property confiscation. Jews either imprisoned, converted, expelled, or burned.
    1264 C.E. Germany Council of Vienna declares that all Jews must wear a “pointed dunce cap.” Thousands murdered.
    1267 C.E. Vienna Jews Forced to Wear Horned Hats
    1270 C.E. Weissenberg, Magdeburg, Arnstadt, Coblenz, Singzig, and Erfurt Jews Burned Alive
    1276 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
    1283 C.E. Mayence & Bacharach Mob Attacks
    1285 C.E. Munich Jews Burned Alive
    1298 C.E. Germany The libel of the “Desecrated Host” is perpetrated against the Jews of Germany. Approximately 150 Jewish communities undergo forced conversion.
    1298 C.E. Franconia, Bavaria & Austria Reindfel’s Decree is propagated against the Jews of Franconia and Bavarai. Riots against these Jewish communities, as well as those in Austria, result in the massacre of 100,000 Jews over a six-month period
    1349 C.E. Worms, Strasbourg, Oppenheim, Mayence, Erfurt, Bavaria & Swabia Jews Burned Alive
    1349 C.E. Heilbronn (Germany) Expulsion
    1384 C.E. Nordlingen Mass Murder
    1388 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsio
    1394 C.E. Germany Expulsion
    1422 C.E. Austria Jews Burned Alive
    1422 C.E. Austria Expulsion
    1424 C.E. Fribourg & Zurich Expulsion
    1426 C.E. Cologne Expulsion
    1431 C.E. Southern Germany Jews Burned Alive
    1432 C.E. Savory Expulsion
    1438 C.E. Mainz Expulsion
    1439 C.E. Augsburg Expulsion
    1456 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
    1453 C.E. Franconia Expulsion
    1453 C.E. Breslau Expulsion
    1454 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
    1510 C.E. Berlin Public Torture & Execution
    1514 C.E. Strasbourg Expulsion
    1519 C.E. Regensburg Expulsion
    1542 C.E. Bohemia Expulsion
    1551 C.E. Bavaria Expulsion
    1559 C.E. Austria Expulsion
    1561 C.E. Prague Expulsion
    1567 C.E. Wurzburg Expulsion
    1569 C.E. Papal States Expulsion
    1571 C.E. Brandenburg Expulsion
    1614 C.E. Frankfort Expulsion
    1615 C.E. Worms Expulsion
    1649 C.E. Hamburg Expulsion
    1664 C.E. Lemberg Mob Attack
    1738 C.E. Wurtemburg Expulsion
    1744 C.E Bohemia Expulsion
    1815 C.E. Lubeck & Bremen Expulsion
    1820 C.E. Bremes Expulsion
    1843 C.E. Austria & Prussia expulsion

    1850 C.E. New York City 500 People, Led by Police, Attacked & Wrecked Jewish Synagogue
    1862 C.E. Area under General Grant’s Jurisdiction in the United States Expulsion

    1919 C.E Bavaria Expulsion

    1915 C.E. Georgia (U.S.A.) Leo Frank Lynched

    1920 C.E. Munich & Breslau Mob Attacks

    1922 C.E. Boston, MA Lawrence Lowell, President of Harvard, calls for Quota Restrictions on Jewish Admission

    1930 C.E. Berlin Mob Attack

  18. I have written that I consider Luther to be The Worst Person Ever.

    And I am no “Germanophile”.

    The manufacturing and distribution of sauerkraut should be a capital offense.

  19. Hitler was an atheist.

    Comment by ayn reagan — May 5, 2010 @ 4:15 pm

    Germans were suckled on Jew hatred for centuries. Please read that link’s article.

  20. So vos iz iddish? Zog mir, bitte:

    I am writing this in English, and not in Yiddish. Yiddish is basically dead. The german christian nazis exterminated it.

    That’s ironic because yiddish is a type of german. And now, with most Jewish yiddish speakers dead, germans are the only ones who still understand it. (When you study German, you are basically learning Yiddish at the same time.)

    But that’s OK. Yiddish is not a universal holy Jewish language, as Hebrew and Aramaic are. It was one of the many local languages spoken for a while by Jews in their travels, like Greek and Arabic. Jews from muslim lands never spoke, or were familiar with, Yiddish, and similarly we Ashkenazi Jews have no familiarity with the Ladino spoken by Jews who were expelled from Spain.

    Interesting factoid: In order to delegitimize all Jews, the Jew-haters claimed for a while that Ashkenazi Jews were not descended from the original Jews, but from Khazars, who were a chinese people who spoke a chinese/turkish language, and supposedly converted to Judaism in the Dark Ages. But the fact that Ashkenazi Jews all spoke Yiddish (German) with no traces of Turkish, was hard for them to explain. Many goyim still like to say that the Yiddish word yarmakka (Hebrew kippa), which comes from the Aramaic yirat malka (respect for the King) is derived from Turkish (or Polish, or anything except Hebrew/Aramaic).