NATO prepares for another war under R2P. Is Israel next?

Sovereignty is under attack. Libya was attacked under the doctrine Responsibility to Protect (R2P). Now NATO is getting ready to invade Syria under the same doctrine. Ted Belman

WND explains;
George Soros-funded doctrine with White House ties

The Libya bombings have been widely regarded as a test of a military doctrine called “Responsibility to Protect.”

In his address to the nation in April explaining the NATO campaign in Libya, Obama cited the doctrine as the main justification for U.S. and international airstrikes against Libya.

Responsibility to Protect, or Responsibility to Act, as cited by Obama, is a set of principles, now backed by the United Nations, based on the idea that sovereignty is not a privilege but a responsibility that can be revoked if a country is accused of “war crimes,” “genocide,” “crimes against humanity” or “ethnic cleansing.”

The term “war crimes” has at times been indiscriminately used by various United Nations-backed international bodies, including the International Criminal Court, or ICC, which applied it to Israeli anti-terror operations in the Gaza Strip. There has been fear the ICC could be used to prosecute U.S. troops who commit alleged “war crimes” overseas.

The Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect is the world’s leading champion of the military doctrine.

As WND reported, billionaire activist George Soros is a primary funder and key proponent of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect. Several of the doctrine’s main founders also sit on boards with Soros.

WND reported the committee that devised the Responsibility to Protect doctrine included Arab League Secretary General Amre Moussa as well as Palestinian legislator Hanan Ashrawi, a staunch denier of the Holocaust who long served as the deputy of late Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat.

Also, the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy has a seat on the advisory board of the 2001 commission that originally founded Responsibility to Protect. The commission is called the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty. It invented the term “responsibility to protect” while defining its guidelines.

The Carr Center is a research center concerned with human rights located at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.

Samantha Power, the National Security Council special adviser to Obama on human rights, was Carr’s founding executive director and headed the institute at the time it advised in the founding of Responsibility to Protect.

With Power’s center on the advisory board, the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty first defined the Responsibility to Protect doctrine.

Power reportedly heavily influenced Obama in consultations leading to the decision to bomb Libya.

Two of the global group’s advisory board members, Ramesh Thakur and Gareth Evans, are the original founders of the doctrine, with the duo even coining the term “responsibility to protect.”

As WND reported, Soros’ Open Society Institute is a primary funder and key proponent of the Global Centre for Responsibility to Protect. Also, Thakur and Evans sit on multiple boards with Soros.

Soros’ Open Society is one of only three non-governmental funders of the Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect. Government sponsors include Australia, Belgium, Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, Rwanda and the U.K.

Board members of the group include former U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, former Ireland President Mary Robinson and South African activist Desmond Tutu. Robinson and Tutu have recently made solidarity visits to the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip as members of a group called The Elders, which includes former President Jimmy Carter.

Annan once famously stated, “State sovereignty, in its most basic sense, is being redefined – not least by the forces of globalization and international co-operation. States are … instruments at the service of their peoples and not vice versa.”

Soros: Right to ‘penetrate nation-states’

Soros himself outlined the fundamentals of Responsibility to Protect in a 2004 Foreign Policy magazine article titled “The People’s Sovereignty: How a New Twist on an Old Idea Can Protect the World’s Most Vulnerable Populations.”

In the article Soros said, “True sovereignty belongs to the people, who in turn delegate it to their governments.”

“If governments abuse the authority entrusted to them and citizens have no opportunity to correct such abuses, outside interference is justified,” Soros wrote. “By specifying that sovereignty is based on the people, the international community can penetrate nation-states’ borders to protect the rights of citizens.

“In particular,” he continued, “the principle of the people’s sovereignty can help solve two modern challenges: the obstacles to delivering aid effectively to sovereign states, and the obstacles to global collective action dealing with states experiencing internal conflict.”

More George Soros ties

“Responsibility” founders Evans and Thakur served as co-chairmen with Vartan Gregorian, president of Carnegie Corp. Charitable Foundation, on the advisory board of the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty, which invented the term “responsibility to protect.”

In his capacity as co-chairman, Evans also played a pivotal role in initiating the fundamental shift from sovereignty as a right to “sovereignty as responsibility.”

Evans presented Responsibility to Protect at the July 23, 2009, United Nations General Assembly, which was convened to consider the principle.

Thakur is a fellow at the Centre for International Governance Innovation, which is in partnership with an economic institute founded by Soros.

Soros is on the executive board of the International Crisis Group, a “crisis management organization” for which Evans serves as president-emeritus.

WND previously reported how the group has been petitioning for the U.S. to normalize ties with the Muslim Brotherhood, the main opposition in Egypt, where longtime U.S. ally Hosni Mubarak was recently toppled.

Aside from Evans and Soros, the group includes on its board Egyptian opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei, as well as other personalities who champion dialogue with Hamas, a violent offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood.

WND also reported the crisis group has petitioned for the Algerian government to cease “excessive” military activities against al-Qaida-linked groups and to allow organizations seeking to create an Islamic state to participate in the Algerian government.

Soros’ own Open Society Institute has funded opposition groups across the Middle East and North Africa, including organizations involved in the current chaos.

‘One World Order’

WND reported that doctrine founder Thakur recently advocated for a “global rebalancing” and “international redistribution” to create a “New World Order.”

In a piece last March in the Ottawa Citizen newspaper, “Toward a new world order,” Thakur wrote, “Westerners must change lifestyles and support international redistribution.”

He was referring to a United Nations-brokered international climate treaty in which he argued, “Developing countries must reorient growth in cleaner and greener directions.”

In the opinion piece, Thakur then discussed recent military engagements and how the financial crisis has impacted the U.S.

“The West’s bullying approach to developing nations won’t work anymore – global power is shifting to Asia,” he wrote.

“A much-needed global moral rebalancing is in train,” he added.

Thakur continued: “Westerners have lost their previous capacity to set standards and rules of behavior for the world. Unless they recognize this reality, there is little prospect of making significant progress in deadlocked international negotiations.”

Thakur contended “the demonstration of the limits to U.S. and NATO power in Iraq and Afghanistan has left many less fearful of ‘superior’ Western power.”

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  1. Viiit

    Yes. The antisemites of the world who you describe must be made to understand that a nation does not go to the expense of creating nuclear weapons as a bluff. The problem is that the Israeli leaders, and even worse the leaders abroad, are only reactive. As Linda has described over the issue of Libya the Jews from the very beginning should have been opposing NATO and the whole “Responsibility to Protect” fakery. Note that in Libya it was all made possible by the betrayals of Putin and Medvedev, and by the betrayals of the Chinese bureaucrats, in that sense stalinism lives on. If Israel had taken a sharp and principled position from day one (on Libya) what a boost that would have given to the Jewish people. The fear is that continual small compromises lead eventually to a moral and practical paralysis in any situation. it comes down to leadership Viiit!

  2. Israel has 200 nukes.
    Let’s see:
    Mecca, Cairo, Paris, London, Berlin,
    That was only 5, still 195 left…
    Well, Ok, Teheran, Damascus, hmm, I think Germans need some more for the Holocaust, here we go:
    Munich, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Stuttgart. OK, now let’s see, still 189 left.
    OK, let go, OSLO, yea!
    By this point, America gets the message:
    Of course most of us will be dead by then. But so what, at least we die with a big bang, not like in the last Holocaust, being exterminated like cockroaches.

    If we are ready to die like this the chances are that they (the Europeans an Americans) will f**ck off.

  3. This is incredibly sad. I do believe that one future day, US/NATO would wage war on the American people’s beloved ally, Israel. Israelis are our brothers and sisters. Forever.

  4. Eager to give Islam conquest of Kosovo, US/NATO waged cruel war for the KLA Muslim terrorist organization against Kosovo’s Christian Serbs on the basis of a PHONY massacre US/NATO knew never took place.

    Which country is targeted next by US/NATO?

  5. Hundreds of thousands of Black Sudanese Christian children and women have been taken for slaves by Sudan’s Arab Muslims. For the two Caribbean nations’ leaders to remain silent over this great wickedness is dreadful hypocrisy.

    Jihad Slavery in Sudan, with Dr Charles Jacobs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP4Fcx7AE_o

    May every slave be free one day!

  6. It has also been reported that some of the black children in Libya who were kidnapped by the rebels, after being horribly abused, were shipped off to European countries.

    US/FRANCE/UK/NATO have great guilt. Waging war for the rebels empowered these evil forces and made the genocide and kidnapping and enslavement of blacks in Libya possible.

    Huge slave trader, Mohammad, founder of Islam, is considered the perfect man and role model by Muslims who follow their religion. That is why devout Muslims believe that slavery is totally acceptable and good.

  7. There is mostly silence about the horrors taking place against Libya’s blacks.

    We need another Martin Luther King!

    STOP the GENOCIDE of Blacks by the U.S. backed Libya rebels!

    The Obama-supported rebels left in charge are now conducting a “large scale cleaning in the areas under their control with the extermination of all blacks in the capital”, according to The Independent.

    Barbaric atrocities, kidnappings and ruthless genocide of blacks in Libya by US/France/NATO backed Al-Qaeda linked rebels has been going on for months.

    US/NATO who have waged war for months for the Al-Qaeda
    linked rebels-who murder our troops in Iraq-are RESPONSIBLE for stopping the genocide.

    US/NATO are also responsible for rescuing the
    many terrified blacks kidnapped by the rebels, including the kidnapped black children who have been horrifically abused by the black-hater Muslim rebels.

    Blacks must have human rights!

    STOP THE GENOCIDE!

  8. I agree that Israel is better off distancing itself from the US and friends of Israel in the US should encourage it too. But a great deal of lip music is played about how Israel is a “critical military ally” in the Middle East. we hear it not just from the US, but many in Europe too. What role does this patronizing have in deflecting NATO attention from Israel? Remember again that Turkey is a NATO member and that Turkey is making all kinds of threats against Israel. Certainly Israel’s submissive role in military relationships with the West do a lot to temper Turkey’s seriousness in voicing aggression against Israel. If Israel isolates itself militarily from the US, wouldn’t this invite NATO to be more openly sympathetic to Turkey’s complaints? Think again of US pressure against Israel to apologize to Turkey over its losses in their attempt to crash the Gaza blockade.

    Perhaps what needs to be confronted is exactly what NATO’s attitude towards Israel is. Does it consider Israel an ally, or what? The US is not all there is to NATO.

  9. Are you not aware that Governor Rick Perry sent an official letter to AG Holder calling on him to enforce the Neutrality Act that actually helped stop the 2nd Gaza flotilla? Or that it is Texas companies who are firmly working with Israel to develop offshore natural gas and shale oil?
    Do not underestimate Perry – his first visit to Israel was in 1992 – or believe the hysteria from the smear-mongers.

  10. Not to mention his cozy relationship with the islamic center of Passaic county, imam qatanani and appointing a terrorist lawyer to a judgeship.

  11. “On what basis do you base such a preposterous statement that Russia and China are more powerful military forces than the USA?” Russia and China, especially Russia, have more advanced missle technologies and more advanced anti-ship weapons than the USA does, as well as a more advanced air defense system than any thing the USA has. Also, Russia has the largest and most advanced nuclear arsenal in the world as well as the most advanced means to deliver it. Three is nothing “preposterous” about the statement I made. It is completely factual.

    I agree with you on the statements regarding Israeli military capabilities and I agree that Israel would be far better off without interference from America. My reasoning for such a position may be slightly different from yours, however, I find myself in complete agreement.

    I’m not sure how this works in Israel or in some other nations but in America we have many people in positions of power who don’t properly represent either the interests of the American people or Israel. As such, it would be far better for both America and Israel if Israel were to be operating completely independent of America.

    What Israel should do should be decided by Israelis and not by any one else. As for what America needs, it needs a strong military force that acts independently of it to act as a buffer between it and the Islamic terrorist supporting nations who wish to destroy it. Israel currently is this buffer and frankly could and likely would perform this function much better without American interference.

    Essentially the Israeli policy of stupidly agreeing to American military aid as you put it is not a good one for either America or Israel. Both countries would be better off without this policy.

    On the plus side for Israel, due to the dire economic situation in America and the massive national debt the country has there is going to be less ability and willingness for America to supply military aid to Israel in the coming years. This will a good situation for Israel, as it will be able to do all of the things you suggest. Essentially all military assets that America can manufacture will be needed for its own defense. There won’t be much ability to try and influence Israeli affairs.

    You correctly point out that it took over six months to take Tripoli. Also, the Syrian and Iranian militaries are much stronger than the Libyan military. Without the help of the “rebels” in Libya Tripoli could not have been taken. Its doubtful that either Syrian or Iranian “rebels” have the fighting capability that the Libyan “rebels” have/had. Given this situation and the fact that US military assets are stretched thin and worn down, a military invastion of either Syria or Iran by NATO/US forces is impossible right now and will be for the foreseeable future. It should be pointed out that US/NATO ground forces are in even worse condition. Since significant ground forces would likely be needed and they simply aren’t available this further makes any invasion of Syria or Iran impossible by NATO forces.

    Given that its not going to happen, why do media types keep beating the drum saying it will or could happen? A real threat has always been an Iranian attack on American interests and possibly on the American main land itself. By using their media sycophants to plant the story in the media that an attack on them by America or its allies is immenent or might be they can galvanize support for the coming attack on America!! Once the story is planted, the rest of the media picks up on it and its spreads. I’m not sure if this is what is going on but I do think it is plausible.

  12. There are so many conflicting views in this answer to a brilliant analytical article it can leave the mind in a swirling mess.

    What is left out is the political and economic crisis in the world capitalist system. It is only months since Obama took the power and what a change has been since then, a president who is at the lowest ebb of any president, an opposition in the republicans which is equally at sea, no leadership in America able to come forward. A system which is totally tied up in contradictions. In that situation of deteriorating world economic crisis anything is possible.

    Every political tendency is being shredded by this political and economic crisis. All countries are involved. In Spain they report that there is 50 per cent unemployment among teenagers and the future, well there is none, they think now of 10 years of depression with no light even after that. But I think that the Jews, for all that I like them and defend them, and the Christians, will be the last to acknowledge that there is anything evil about the capitalist system. Note there is no fascist movement in Spain. There is the makings of one to emerge out of the Church (see last visit by the Pope to Spain…he understands!) but nothing at all on the ground. This is the same in every country. There is no fascist movement on the ground. No bodies of armed men to do the bidding of the Bankers et al as there emerged in the 1930s especially in Italy and Germany. The place where there is a fascist movement fully formed is in the Arab and Islamic countries and these Fascist movements are being turned against Russia and China, and since the central component is anti-Semitism, against Israel.

    Note well that it is to these movements that the western bourgeoisie has turned to in recent years, in Yugoslavia, in Indonesia some decades before that, in Vietnam with the Catholic fascists, in the movements around Nasserism, in Iran where France aided the despot to return, in Iran again where all American Presidents have protected the religious despots, and the Arab Spring, which is the same kinds of forces. Ben Ali needed assistance and protection, Mubarak also, now in a very complicated situation Assad also, and above all Muammar Gadhafi, because it is clear to anybody who is not an ideological bigot, that Gadhafi was working a successful alliance with the “West” against Al Qaida. Indeed so was Milosevic working an alliance, but once the decisions at the top are taken, as Francisco says, nothing stops the Empire. Francisco says the Empire does what it likes, I change this slightly and say, The Empire does what it needs to do. I tend to root everything in the insoluble base which is the economic and political crisis in the world capitalist system. Sometimes the links are not obvious but they are always there. In this regard it boils down to leadership. Thus we have in recent days MemriTV placing on its website propaganda AGAINST GADHAFI from the tool of this Islam Fascism, Al Jazeera. Pamela Geller was and is all at sea on this issue. Spencer has stuck the knife into Gadhafi every chance he got. Now it will be the turn of Assad. The Hitler figure in this situation is not Assad, but is Erdogan. Assad has been quiet on Israel. Erdogan has been spouting Goebbels like propaganda everywhere. The great thing about Muammar Gadhafi and his family is that they did fight, and they fought in a way that Milosevic never did. The only time that Milosevic really fought was when he was in the clutches of his enemy, in the cell in The Hague. He fought from his cell. Avoid that!

    Now Assad has threatened to hit Israel with many rockets. That would be a horrible scenario for me as a supporter of the Jews. But there is another lesson there as well, that the Israeli elite have never taken on board. In a war situation all bets are off and one way or another you better win it. The question is as always what can Israel do and what must Israel do? There is an absence of leadership in Israel and Francisco by claiming that the Jewish tradition was somehow revolutionary has done a big disservice. The present Judaism is leading the Jews into their end because it cannot develop a strategy to meet the situation. There is good analysis, as this article proves, good awareness of the dangers. But there is no party, no leadership, in Israel to take reality by the scruff of the neck as it were, and to really lead. As I said Likud betrayed over Gaza, Netanyahu betrayed over taking on Barak post-election, Lieberman is for 2 states, Feiglin is a really foolish man, Katz is totally bankrupt. There is nothing and that is the big danger to the Jews. You cannot move if you have no head, no brain. And Israel and Israeli Jews do not have a brain to meet this crisis and challenge. I have said from the beginning, build a new party, think about what Lenin did in 1900 approx. to 1917 and how he and his party grabbed reality by the scruff of the neck in those key months of 1917, visit the experience and writings of Trotsky and instead of like Pavlov’s dog dismissing all of that experience do not dismiss it but take it seriously..

    I think that the economic demands being made by the economic movement in Israel is quite reactionary. The primary tasks in Israel are not economic, and will never be economic, but are existential, the Israeli state has to survive, that is the primary issue and the leadership of this economical movement is very reactionary in that regard. So I do not mean a fight for workers power in Israel. I mean a party which is Jewish but a party which is open to the lessons of the Bolsheviks and of Trotskyism.

  13. I have predicted that she wouldn’t run for the past year and a half only to be shot down by Ted and his Palin adulators. Waiting for an unexpected mea culpa. 🙂

  14. Israel’s military exports could have been doubled if there were no American restrictions placed upon her due to our stupid policy of agreeing to American military aid. This report (below) substantiates all I have said over the years. Israel must extricate herself from under the American influence and shackles. The sooner the better. It was my hope that Obama would be the catalyst to effect such a scenrio but I didn’t count on such a wuss named BB the cowardly appeaser.

    Economic and Strategic
    Ramifications of American
    Assistance to Israel

    This FAQ is a bit dated but since it was published Israel has increased her capability substantially.
    THE THIRD TEMPLE’S HOLY OF HOLIES:
    ISRAEL’S NUCLEAR WEAPONS

  15. The US is not a serious military threat to Israel right now and is likely to be even less of a threat in the future. If Israel faces a military threat form outside of the Middle East, it is more likely to come from either Russia or China than from the US/NATO. Russia and China are the most powerful military forces on earth right now. This is who Israel should be most concerned about.

    On what do you base such a preposterous statement that Russia and China are more powerful military forces than is the USA?

    There is one message that should go forth from Zion: You may have for now the oil but we got the matches!!!!

    NATO took over six months with American help to take Tripoli and still have not taken areas of Libya loyal to Gaddafi not to mention Gaddafi himself. The Europeans even ran out of munitions and had to be supplied by the Americans. Gaddafi didn’t have a real Army but closely represented an internal militia. Israel can easily take out any city in Europe with the push of a button from land or sea and that includes Moscow and St. Peterburg. Israel has the 4th largest military in the world backed up by tactical nukes, who would dare invade or attack israel unless they want to bring on a real Gog U Mogog (ARMAGEDDON)? Not impossible, but highly illogical and improbable.

    Study: Israel the World’s Third Largest Supplier of Arms
    U.S. study finds that as of 2010, Israel has become the third country in the world in exporting arms.

    By Elad Benari

    A U.S. study has found that in 2010 Israel became the third largest country in the world which exports arms.

    The results of the study, entitled “Supply of Arms to Developing Countries from 2003 to 2010,” were presented on Wednesday on Arutz Sheva’s new Russian website.

    Richard Grimmett, who conducted the study, said that in recent years Israel managed to beat out the major suppliers of arms such as Britain, China, France and Italy.

    “There is no doubt that the Israelis play a significant role in the global arms trade and are regularly ranked at the top levels of arms sales,” he said.

    Between the years 2005 and 2008, Israeli companies signed contracts worth $5.3 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service.

    The Israeli Defense Ministry confirmed that the defense industry signed export contracts worth $6.3 billion in 2008 and added that contracts valued at $20.3 billion have been signed in the last four years.

  16. With the just breaking news that Sarah Palin will not run for the presidency, Israel’s last great hope to have a REAL FRIEND IN THE WHITE HOUSE has just evaporated.

  17. For r2p to work, the necessary military assets are needed. At this time, the US is spread to thin and does not have the military assets to conduct a military invasion against Syria, Israel, or anyone else right now for that matter. The otehr members of NATO don’t have the military assets either. Given the US economic situation, the US military is likely to be even less capable of a force in the future than it is now. Even if the US were foolish enough to try to invade either Syria or Israel right now, the American people will not support yet another military action. Furthermore the Israeli air force and other military forces are among the best trained and best led in the world. In fact, they may be the best. As such, the Israeli military would easily defeat US/NATO forces on the battle field.

    The US is not a serious military threat to Israel right now and is likely to be even less of a threat in the future. If Israel faces a military threat form outside of the Middle East, it is more likely to come from either Russia or China than from the US/NATO. Russia and China are the most powerful military forces on earth right now. This is who Israel should be most concerned about.

  18. Israel has nukes. So, no, Israel is not next – not unless the world’s leaders decide they would rather blow up the globe than have Jews living among them. Which is possible, just not likely.

  19. That’s good, Bill, except for a few things. Remember, Hitler wouldn’t have had a tank or bomber to his name if he hadn’t been a flaming anti-Semite. Really, that’s all he had. Everything else was nothing but shiny objects and blather to confuse those who imagined that anything else might have been useful to the Nazis. Look at the UN, look at the EU, look anywhere. No matter how big the problem, it can be set aside to discuss Israel. They are serious and when people are serious, they bring out the firepower.

    In order for NATO to occupy Israel, who says fighting is going to be necessary? Aren’t there enough people in the police and military to invite them in? Maybe they need some help with all those reactionary “settlers” who constantly need to be moved around against their will, especially if the Palestinians succeed with a UDI. If Israel is willing to negotiate in order to just soften a regular rain of missiles from Gaza, who knows what else they will settle for?

    If you think the idea is preposterous, ask the Serbs if they thought in the early nineties that NATO would bomb them. NATO did bomb them and, who knows, they may bomb them again.

  20. Yes, R2P is the engine for NATO intervention in Israel. We’ve seen this all before in the former Yugoslavia, which itself was an engine of oppression and subjugation of the Serbian people. But Serbia’s Kosovo and NATO’s presence there as KFOR and the UN’s presence there as UNMIK are handy models. The Albanians unilateral declaration of independence (UDI) was the model for the recent Palestinian appeal to the UN. If NATO doesn’t invade Israel to enforce a Palestinian state, it won’t be because they don’t know how.

  21. One could argue George W. Bush used a form of “Responsibility to Protect” when he invaded Iraq. Saddam was killing his people but libtards were opposed to intervening then. Now libsmacks are all for U.S. military intervention when it’s their lying buffoon in the WH.

    R2P can be used against Israel. Isn’t Israel always being accused of “ethnically cleasning” the “Palestinians”? Muslim nations are always trying to nail Israel for “war crimes” in the ICC. What’s to stop R2P from being used should Israel decide to annex or if Israel wants to retake Gaza or the Sinai? What’s to stop the globalists from taking the Golan away from Israel and redistributing it?

    Assad is awful but what replaces him could be worse(Would a radical Islamist government be preferential(caliphate creation?)? Who’s to say that isn’t what the neo marxist, Soros crony, muslim in the WH isn’t after? You better believe things will be rebalanced in the Palestinian’s/arab/muslim’s favor. Why? Because of who controls the oil and there are more of them than there are of you. Appeasement.

    By all means, keep putting your faith in the internationalists and their UN circus, keep empowering those who believe they have the right to remake the world as they see fit. Soros has already made it clear he sees the U.S. & Israel as an impediment to the global rebalancing act(all while they use my nation’s military might to move the chess pieces on the NWO board) As long as they can re-distribute the “wealth” of the west(or put it on our credit card)we are useful. For now.