Peloni: Trump is exactly right in addressing the lack of legitimacy of Zelensky’s overstaying his term of office, by almost a full year currently. The issue was raised a few days ago regarding who should be represent the Ukrainians during negotiations, and as Trump states here, I noted that Zelensky has no mandate to do so due to his self imposed lengthened term of office. Let Zel stand for office, let him lift the reign of oppression which now sits on his people and let the Ukrainians have a choice regarding whether they want war, or if they want peace. Notably, the Ukrainians have successfully chosen peace candidates in both of the post US coup elections, and Zelensky was no more faithful to the characterization as a peace candidate than was his predecessor, Poroshenko. In any event, Ukraine has a right to have its voice heard, but it should be a voice which holds the support of both the Ukrainian constitution and the Ukrainian people, both of which Zelensky has successfully betrayed. The lack of democratic norms, which would obviously include holding elections, is nothing to ignore, particularly in the wake of the illegitimate election in the US which both facilitated the Ukraine War and the expansive fraud conducted in the name of aiding the Ukrainian people. Let Zelensky return the dignity of the vote to his people, and reaffirm his own legitimacy in any negotiations by holding last year’s election now.
Hi, Adam
I think President Trump has induced Zelenskyy to reveal his hand.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-spy-chief-i-believe-we-will-reach-a-ceasefire-this-year/ar-AA1zrkp8?ocid=msedgdhp&cvid=86c149a95bc84718ba1b477a1c98efa2&ei=21
This guy, head of Ukraine’s inelligence office, claimed in December 2024 that he expects Ukraine and Russia to achieve a cease=fire in 2025. He says that negotiations between the two countries, inundislosed locations, were making steady progress, He expressed doubts as to Russia’s long-term good intentions. bouts that are to be expected from any Ukrainian official after eleven years of conflict betweenthe two countries, his tone was upbeat.
IfTrump had just kept quiet about the Ukraine-Russia conflict for a few months (mybe impossible for him). or if he did talk about, he had avoided saying anythin g likely to provokr and anger either side, he instead severely provoked Ukraine with outrageous falsehoods. This will make his self-appoined task of negotiating a cease-fire far more difficult.
Hi, Laura. You said,
I never said he was. There is no “the” bad guy here. As Peloni correctly said,
but Peloni also wrongly said,
This is incorrect. The real contest has been all of the above (especially, it seems, the CIA — who most likely killed JFK, Diem, and others; and caused untold suffering to tens of thousands of US vets and their families) against THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, very much as it was during the Vietnam War.
The main difference is that they missed, when trying to kill Donald Trump.
cf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VfYvY_-Y4Q (I remember that song)
@Laura
To be accurate, it was the US which started the war, and it began back in 2014. Even in 2022, the real contest was never between Ukraine and Russia, but between the US regime changing Neocons and Russia. Ukraine was never in a position to defeat Russia, and never could be. The only advantage to continuing the war after the US economic war failed was to see more dead Slavs, which is why the West want it to continue. Of course Zel wants it to continue as well, because when it ends, so does his contract, in one way or the other.
Zel failed to try to negotiate a peace rather than make threats of war and NATO membership. He walked away from a peace initiative which would have left pre-2022 Ukraine intact and instead let Ukraine dissolve one foot at a time. Even now he would rather have war than peace. Also, Zel either stole billions of US dollars from the Ukraine war effort or was complicit in such a theft, which could have made an important difference for Ukraine. Zel is in fact a very bad guy, not the only one, but certainly he is a bad guy.
@Adam
I have shared with you what sources I use, and they are not Russians.
What is more, the most recent comment I posted is not from me, but from Trump. It only sounds like me because it is exactly what I have been stating for four years now.
Get some rest and have a pleasant night.
Totally absurd. Russia started the war, not Ukraine.
Michael, Zelensky isn’t the bad guy in this.
Adam,
I agree with you re Peloni; but even a broken clock gives the right time twice a day. This is what our president said, and I agree:
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/trump-makes-a-harsh-statement-with-threats-1739986598.html
American citizens have been bilked by a completely callous, psychopathic CIA-led Deep State, and little street rats like Zelenskyy have grabbed what they could along the way. Trump is doing what he can, to stop the bleeding. Russia, meanwhile is a voracious predator — nothing new here.
2Peloni,There is much, much more that needs to be said about the falsehoods in your ecent post. I realize that you grmuinely believe everything that you have been writing about the Russia-Ukraine catastrophe. But in my opinion you have got the facts all wrong. Probably because you have been reliying on sources that are connected with Russian the Russian government’s propaganda outlets.
Be that as it may, I have had an extrtemely exhausting and frustrating day, and amphysically and mentally unable topost anything more for the time being. I need to have dinner, and after that take anevening nap. Best wishes to everyone, even those who disagree completely with me.
Peloni,what you are writing is mishigas, comletely irreconcilable with well-documented facts. Ukraine didn’t start the Ukraine-Russia war with a completely unprovoked invasion of Ukraine in 2022. He had lied about his intentions to both Zelensky and the Bush administration.He claimed his intentions were completely peaceful. He even claimed that he was withdrawing soldiers from the Ukrainian border. Zelensky believed him, and didn’t put Ukrainian forces on full alert. This is the worst complaint that Ukrainians have made about Zelensky, the thing that some Ukrainians have never forgiven him for.
From Trump’s TruthSocial account:
Adam,
Frankly, I haven’t even read the latest here. I certainly disagree with Peloni. The sad fact of the matter is that
The US seems to have lost this one, and we need to cut our losses.
We have lost. This is Vietnam II” Biden = LBJ; Trump = Nixon; we got little help from NATO allies, both South Vietnam and eastern Ukraine will no longer be on the map, etc. BTW, We are suffering economically, and will have to completely re-do our monetary system; and Trump’s overtures to Russia resemble Nixon’s toward China.
Next time, maybe we’ll think before opening our mouth and playing the big shot.
Oh, did I mention this? We have lost, just as in Vietnam.
1. The CIA got us into both wars. JFK was assasinated, and they tried to off Donald Trump. They also have thrown both Ngo Dinh Diem and V. Zelenskyy under the bus. This does NOT bring back fond memories. 🙁
@Adam
Nonsense. This is literally the exact same ploy which Zel’s predecessor, Poroshenko, tried to hold onto power and to prevent Zel defeating him in an open election after declaring marshal law in 2019, but the Ukrainian Supreme Court under the leadership of an independent Court president ruled against Poroshenko, and the election was held. Zel was wise enough to have this same Supreme Court President removed from office, and now is pretending that he can’t hold a vote in the middle of a war, even though he was himself elected during the middle of a war, even while marshal law had been declared.
Everything you describe here is the routine practices of a Ukrainian election, yet, Zel refused to hold an election even while he had the support of the corrupt election rigging Biden administration to help him over the finishing line. Is it because he fears the election would in fact be too big to rig as has been claimed to explain Trump’s own recent victory over the Biden cabal? With just 4% support of the voters, too big to rig does seem to be a good way to explain Zel’s election chances.
His name is Valerii Fedorovych Zaluzhnyi, and he has the full support of the Nazi elements in Ukraine, among others. I am not certain that he would actually win the election, but whether he did or not, whoever did win the election would have more legitimacy than Zel now holds.
I would be interested in reading anything you have on this point.
This is ridiculous. You believe that the US govt which was literally in league with Ukraine would tolerate Musk actively subverting US foreign policy on behalf of the Russians, particularly the corrupt Biden govt which had every interest in sidelining and prosecuting Musk right along side of Trump? In fact, this sounds like the beginning of a new Russia Hoax?
Trump’s remarks are a vicious blood libel, Russia started the war by invading Ukraine and Zelensky did not start it.
It is Putin. not Zelensky. who is an illegitimate, ruler, since he was elected in an election with massive ballot stuffing and the exclusion of all candidates with any chance of winning from the ballot. Several possible opponants were jailed during the election,
The Ukrainian parliament has extended Zelensky’s term of office due to the existing wartime conditions. which make it impossible to hold an election until there is a long-term cease-fire or armistice. This is explicitly authorized by the Ukrainian constitution. As for Zelensky’s political future-the “word” on the Ukrainian “street” is that he does not plan for reelection. It is widely believed that the Ukrainian general who is currently Ukraine’s ambassador to London, but had earlier been the chief general of the Ukrainian armed forces (I can’t remember his name) will be elected Ukraine’s next president, once a long-term cease fire is in place.
I believe that the reason for all these lies from Trump and his advisors are pretty desperate to resume trade with russia, where many American businesses had substantial investments before the Russian invasion and the sanctions imposed on Russia by the Biden administration, One of investors with the largest stake in Russia is Elon Musk, Trump’s efficiency tsar. The Ukrainian’s have long accused him of using his “starlinks” satellites to spy on Ukraine and transmit sensitive information about the Ukrainian armed forces to Russia. I have not known in the past whether or not there is any truth to these Ukrainian accusations. But right now I believe.them.