By TOVAH LAZAROFF, LAHAV HARKOV, JPOST
Now is the time to step up the fight against a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Construction and Housing Minister Uri Ariel (Bayit Yehudi) said on Wednesday night at a meeting of the settler leadership in Jerusalem.
Transportation Minister Israel Katz (Likud) said he believed Palestinians should be autonomous in the West Bank and should affiliate with Jordan.
“I am opposed to a Palestinian state,” Katz said at the start of an executive meeting of the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip.
“It is unacceptable, mainly because of our rights to this land,’ Katz said. “In my eyes, the right diplomatic solution is an autonomous Palestinian entity, but with Jordanian civilian and political affiliation.”
Katz added that Gaza should be severed from Israel and connected to Egypt.
Ariel said, “We need to state clearly that there won’t be a Palestinian state west of the Jordan River.”
He noted that even as the settler leadership met, others were working to rekindle talks for a two-state solution in the West Bank. The time to start the battle against those talks and its outcome is now, he said.
“These kinds of things need to be killed when they are small. Otherwise, it becomes harder and more complicated, with less chance of success,” he said.
“Now is the time to act. The responsibility falls first and foremost upon us,” he said.
“We do not ring the alarm bells enough. This time we will not turn the other check,” he said.
“We will fight [politically] for the Land of Israel with all our strength,” he said, explaining that it was important to work within the political parties that make up the coalition.
Both he and Katz said they opposed any form of a construction freeze over the pre- 1967 lines.
“This illness in which Jews freeze Jews is a very serious disease that can return in many forms,” he said. “A freeze cannot be within the Jewish nation’s lexicon, certainly not in the Land of Israel.”
It has been close to a year since new homes have been marketed in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, Ariel said.
“I won’t lend a hand in any way to a freeze in Judea and Samaria and in east Jerusalem,” he said.
“According to my political assessment, there is not a majority for it in the Knesset,” Ariel added.
He repeated a statement he made earlier in the day at the Knesset Finance Committee debate on his ministry’s budget, in which he blamed the country’s housing shortage in part on Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu’s refusal to authorize permits for homes in West Bank settlements and east Jerusalem.
“We have the ability to market 10,000 housing units in [east] Jerusalem and the settlement blocks in Judea and Samaria,” Ariel told the Knesset Finance Committee during a meeting on the housing budget for 2013-2014.
This includes plans for homes in the settlements of Beit Aryeh, Ofarim and Elkana, Ariel said.
Jerusalem is one of the areas in the country with an acute housing shortage, Ariel said. As a result, he said, prices have risen by 41 percent between 2008 and 2012, compared to a 27% hike in the rest of the country for that same period.
High purchase prices translate into high rental fees, he said.
Ariel’s comments come in the midst of a de facto freeze since January on the publication of housing tenders in east Jerusalem and West Bank settlements, as part of Netanyahu’s efforts to help create a supportive climate for US Secretary of State John Kerry’s efforts to rekindle the frozen peace talks with the Palestinians.
On Wednesday afternoon Avi Ro’eh, who heads the Council of Jewish Communities of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza Strip, wrote a letter to Netanyahu urging him to lift the de facto freeze and begin marketing homes.
Meretz party leader MK Zehava Gal-On accused Ariel of manipulating the country’s housing crisis to push for more housing over the pre-1967 lines.
Opposition leader Shelly Yacimovich (Labor) called Ariel the only honest member of the coalition.
“Ariel took the mask off the face of the Netanyahu-Lapid- Bennett government,” she stated.
“Lapid promised cheaper housing but enacts cruel budget cuts and raises taxes on middle- class homeowners without creating even one mechanism for stopping housing prices from skyrocketing. Then he covers everything with empty slogans.”
At the same time, Yacimovich said, Ariel revealed the government’s total unwillingness to try to bring a peace treaty, in trying to create a mass influx of young couples into settlements by having inexpensive housing only there.
Ariel’s housing plans will be “the death blow to our chances for a peace treaty.”
Yidvocate said:
this is the quote of yours to Phoenix which I initially responded to. It appeared to me that you were saying that advocating transfer was a waste of energy which should be diverted to more productive ends. Are you saying you agree with transfer and that it is not a waste of energy to advocate transfer but that it is a waste of energy if not advocated in phases? I am confused
Yidvocate Said:
I understand the words in bold to mean transfer.
yamit82 Said:
@ bernard ross:
Read your post #15. You advocated the one fell swoop approach and it was to that I responded being a waste of time. It was I who advocated the incremental approach which in your subsequent posts you adopted.
No one that is except the antisemitic inhabitants of the planet earth, which are considerable!
I never called transfer a waste of time so please don’t put words in my mouth. The waste of time is the one fell approach which you started with and tacitly realized was a pipe dream (except perhaps during outright war) and then adopted my incremental approach and the “sellable” approach even advocating re-education of Israeli youth (which would take a generation or two!).
Stop pretending that we are of a difference of opinion when we are not.
yamit82 Said:
And you my dear Yamit 82,not stupid but a little arrogant, but then so is CB,real so be a little arrogant,its sexy.
yamit82 Said:
Custer made all the classic mistakes,underestimated the enemy******split his troops******drew his supply line out*****alinated his subbornates and troops******fatique his troops and horses*******broke his word.
@ honeybee:
Custer was STUPID AND ARROGANT.
yamit82 Said:
” There’s a plan that could posibably backfire” Gen George A. Custer
the phoenix Said:
Liberal rabbi who claims orthodoxy but in world view no significant differences from most reform rabbis. I did get the impression that he is not stupid.
Yidvocate Said:
Only during war.
Create the conflict, put the blame on the Arabs, then move quickly with as much force and logistics as possible and necessary and get rid of them.
reply 40 to yidvocate in moderation(this moderation software should be adjusted to facilitate the posting habits on israpundit)
Yidvocate Said:
then you now agree that advocating transfer is NOT a waste of energy that should be diverted to more productive ends
Yidvocate Said:
no one ever mentioned one fell swoop. However, PLO and criminals can be one fell swoop. The rest can be done over time while implementing massive jewish settlement coupled with an ongoing strict deportation policy. You were the one saying that transfer was a waste of energy and that you had more productive ends in mind. you never said that your designation of “waste of energy” was only about the phasing of transfer. I still don’t know what your “more productive ends” are? As an end goal I cannot imagine a more productive goal than transfer and annexation.
I do not know why the jews cant simply say it is their land, both legally and historically and that they refuse to have the jew killers in their midst as they have exhausted their opportunities to prove they are not jew killers. When people complain that it is wrong just point out the jewish refugees that are still outstanding. Someone on Jpost said 2 wrongs dont make a right and I said it is more right than allowing the one wrong to remain. My point of view is that whatever is done to jews may be considered precedent to do to arabs, I can live with two wrongs if the second wrong restores justice to the jews.
@ bernard ross:
What of the Arab citizens of Israel?
I thought I was advocating the incremental approach. So which is it? Do you really think it realistic to transfer 1.5 to 3 million Arabs in one fell swoop?
I never said we have to rely on Jordan to recognize the illegality of its revocation of Jordanian citizenship, only to that we recognize such illegality and use it as a justification to repatriate the Jordanians to Jordan. How is this different from your justifications for delivery to Gaza? Do you expect the Hamas to agree with your justification?
It is truly tiresome arguing with someone who is really espousing your own idea. Any difference is one of inconsequential detail.
Comment to mr Ross in moderation
@ bernard ross:
Dear mr Ross,
WHY has the GOI prevented showing the real facts?
In ‘the nazis and the Palestinians movement’ thread, ted has posted the comment that ‘he is wondering whether the goi had a hand in making that video unavailable for viewing in Israel… This begs the same question as before, WHY? Why would a government sworn in to protect the people it represents (?) would do that…. Unless…. And this is where the answer seems to be obvious, yet I refuse to believe that it is possible.
In fact, your entire comment is indeed dispassionate, and logical and COULD HAPPEN, but only if the present ‘leadership’ (read: carpetbaggers looking for a guaranteed pension for life) is thrown right out, and what I called ‘new administration’ , steps in.
I have all the faith in the Jewish ingenuity and ability to turn things around (for crying out loud, that’s our history!)
I do not know enough about shai piron , the current minister of education to properly comment, except that no matter how good he may be… He is still part of this current dysfunctional and corrupt system (guilt by association if you will).
reply 35to yidvocate in moderation
Yidvocate Said:
IN that case I see no reason for stating that advocating transfer is a waste of energy which needs to be diverted to more productive ends. Certainly the ends you described are vague and tend to leave the real problem in place: the arabs.
Yidvocate Said:
actually, I think this is where you go wrong. I think that I present my arguments and methodology of transfer in a dispassionate way using legal and moral precedents to justify the overall goals and the details.When I speak of the arab transfers of jews I make sure to note that it took place after the Geneva conventions because the global reaction establish a precedent. My approach to YS is the same that the case is very strong legally for Jewish settlement, separately and apart from Israeli sovereignty, and therefore GC issues cannot be relevant to JEWISH settlement. I have looked into the legal precedent for massive jewish settlement based on the US affirmative action policies of the US to restore justice and mitigate damage that resulted from the british, Jordanian and israeli occupations of the west bank to the legal rights of jewish settlement. I have looked at the post action situation and conclude that although transfer is a major move it is the only move that shows any real potential for resolving the arab refugees in Israel and of bringing equal justice to jewish refugees from arab lands to Israel. Regarding arab ctizenship there are many precedents allowing Issrael not to grant citizenship.
Yidvocate Said:
It was you who implied yours was more sellable when calling transfer a waste of energy. however,using a correct approach, which would be phased I believe it can be sellable in parts. EG nobody would care about the humanitarian aspect of transferring back out the PLO and militias who have reneged on Oslo. further, similarly with criminals and security risks going to gaza. However, there is another issue of “sellability”. Israelis do not support annexation and transfer because they do not believe Jews are legally or morally justified in YS and they believe it would not be humanitarian to transfer the arabs. The Israeli govt has prevented jewish children from growing up with the real facts. There needs to be a re-education which highlights all the swindles and clearly show the picture that it is the jews with the rights and the arab terrorists supported by euro money are swindling the jews. especially it must be shown how the europeans are libeling the jews today and avoiding their treaty commitments to the jews while financially supporting terrorists. Once the picture is repainted from the jewish POV one can sell the political idea of repudiating any more double standards and within that context everything I have stated is realizable. On any issue it can be asked ” how can it be ok for the others but not for the Jews. the jews are sold on the basis of fairness. regarding humanitarian issues and obligations it is the same: those who created the problem must pay for the resettlement costs. the jews must be shown the hypocrisy of considering the enemies human concerns when the jews were not considered and are still not considered. Separation of the populations with the pals being resettled in arab lands who took part in the conflict as the jews who were resettled in Israel. No double standards.
@ bernard ross:
Advocacy needs to precede execution and that takes us back to my “sellability” point. Now you seem to be converging towards my suggests tactics of the incremental approach which surely has to be more sellable to the problem population – the Jewish people.
If you leveled out on the passion a bit, I think you’d find that we’re on the same page!
@ bernard ross:
Kudos mr Ross.
It can NOT be any clearer than that!!!
@ bernard ross:
You are correct and I don’t see any vast difference between your solution and mine. The end game is the same. The main obstacle is the Jewish people. The Levy Report gets shelved, right leaning politicians make a sharp left upon entering office, the Oslo perversion persists and prevails. So in light of these realities, do you think your proposal is more “sellable” than mine? Solutions are only solutions if they have the chance to see the light of day.
Yidvocate Said:
which is the waste of energy the advocacy of transfer or the execution of transfer? Transfer need not happen in one fell swoop. the first phase could involve the transfer of the PLO and their militias based upon their breach of Oslo, which was the only legal reason they have for being back in israel. After that all those who are criminals and security risks based on the precedent that nations deport such aliens. israel can recognize the boundaries of gaza as being palestine and then deem the arabs to be citizens of gaza and transfer the first phases there. Once the main troublemakers are deported and transferred massive jewish immigration affirmative action policy to reverse past obstruction can be implemented to YS. Any one who gets involved in criminal activity can be immediately deported to their homeland. this can be accomplished without the cooperation of anyone.
Yidvocate Said:
I have mentioned both many times as setting a legal precedent for the transfer of the arabs. Both transfers occurred after the advent of the geneva conventions and both were allowed to remain by the international bodies therefore a presumption of acceptance. I see the transfer of arabs from Israel as being the restoring of justice by quid pro quo. A population exchange that completes that began by the jewish expulsions from the same belligerents in the conflict that created the arab 5th column refugee problem. It is the legal and moral justification that demolishes double standards.
Yidvocate Said:
how is this a more productive end. and how would it be more realistically accomplished. Annexation is a given in your solution and that of transfer. You seek partial transfer based on the willingness of arabs to leave, is that more realistic? you seek to make them citizens of Jordan who has already, possibly illegally, disowned them, is that more realistic? If jordan doesn’t accept them as citizens you say ignore the problem. It looks to me that your “solution” is a non solution which leaves all the problems in place, depends on others(arabs) for solutions, will have ongoing problems with remaining arabs clamoring for rights,etc. Basically you say to ignore the problem. My solution of transfer can be done unilaterally, is legally precedented, is permanent, will provide a permanent refugee solution paid for by those who create and maintain the problem. the only problem is foreign condemnation which I think would die down and exists anyway. The only thing preventing my solution is the israeli people. it requires a change of mind and will. There is no real obstruction other than that.
@ bernard ross:
See my comment No. 14 above.
@ bernard ross:
You might have mentioned a case in point: the “transfer” of some 850,000 Jews from Arab lands from 1948. No howls, no whimpers, no emergency meetings of the Security Counsel, no sanctions, no boycotts, no divestments, no nothing!
Could have also mentions the expulsions from Gush Katif of some 10,000 Jews, dito!
Of course the converse would never hold true in this antisemitic world of moral inversion but the hypocrisy should be glaring and we can hold that up to the world in defense to our actions. It won’t stop the howling however.
@ CuriousAmerican:
Good idea CA and I know where we can get the money from. First we will sue the Church. Then, we will force the catholic church to either pay what it owes Israel or shut the church down. If the church even paid us ONLY HALF of what they owe us – we should have enough money to get rid of all the anti-semites in Israel.
We have already paid too much OUT OF OUR OWN POCKETS – THAT IS THE ISSUE.
@ bernard ross:
Why are you always being disrespected???????????????
my comment 24 to yidvocate in moderation
Yidvocate Said:
Please elaborate on what those :more productive ends” are and how they can be realistically accomplished.
Howling at Israel is a global endeavor. Actually, I believe that if the arabs are transferred unilaterally across the border there will be a decrease in howling at Israel after the initial howl. this is because the 3 entities of gaza, syria and lebanon (plus UN, EU and arabs) will have a real problem in their laps to solve. As time, energy and resources are limited they will be forced to spend a large amount towards actually solving the refugee problem both in the short and the long-term. Once transfer is accomplished, sanctions against Israel will be meaningless because they will not be able to accomplish anything; Israel will not take them back. They will all have to meet and cooperate to find real solutions quickly because the new refugees may overwhelm the govts. The beautiful thing is that israel finally will be truly irrelevant, and of no value, to any solution. They will be so busy being forced to deal with real issues that the howling will decrease. Furthermore, unlike any other “solution” the howling about refugees will decrease to zero and only exist as a bitter pill to swallow about a past “injustice”. the world and the pals will finally have the opportunity to move on. If you give my solutions some real thought, in detail, projecting into the future, identifying and solving real problems, you will see the true beauty of this simple permanent solution as opposed to ideologically dismissing it out of hand. Most jews also ideologically dismiss it out of hand with the false notion that they are being humanitarian. Nothing could be further than the truth.
@ the phoenix:
Passionate might be a better expression. I too would like nothing better than to pick up each and every last one of those muzloid haters and deposit them on the other side of the river or in Hamastan or Sinai or Hezbollahland or the Mediterranean for that matter. But that isn’t going to happen and advocating such a move is a waste of energy that needs to be diverted to more productive ends. As for the american, I will defer to your assessment as you seem to have more experience with him than I. My take is that he often presents the “other” view point which seems sorely lacking on this blog. Without the “other” we are all just preaching to the converted and tooting our own horns to very little productive end.
@ Yidvocate:
Dear yidvocate,
I would like to address to a few points you have made .
Even if the american and I were to say THE EXACT SAME THING, I assure you that we are coming from diametrically opposite, very very far apart starting points.
His position (more often than not) is overtly antisemitic. It is sooooo predictable: ” yes, the nazis did blah blah blah BUT the Jews did too…. followed by a few cockamamy references, yes the musloids did stone/butcher/murder etc etc etc….BUT…..
So his point is always to put down, denigrate the Jews and just throw in a dig which basically says “you Jews are not that great, and in fact I am proving to you that you are just as bad if not worse than the ones you accuse”
Understand this, yidvocate, while I may not have Bernard Ross’ eloquence or yamit’s bottomless knowledge and ability to bring biblical and halachic references, I do have THE PASSION, and the love for Judaism, our past, and concern for our future.
You think I am ‘extreme’.
Let me assure you in no uncertain way, that I am very much ‘mr. Spock’ish in character, as far as just about everything….
As far as the rest of your comment, I do not disagree with that scenario at all. But if you want to ‘negotiate’, do you start your opening gambit to be the desired result?
We KNOW that Israel (the Jews, I.o.w.) will be blamed for what they did and for what they did not do….no matter what.
All I say, is, THAT being the case, we should at least give them a reason to complain moan and blame and whatever else antisemites do.
Real question yidvocate: you live prosperously, in a beautiful house and surroundings and all’s well. Now some shmegheghe (let’s say the american, for argument’s sake) on the other end of the world is screaming in protest ‘how come yidvocate is even allowed to live like that while sooo many poooowah hepwess wittle awabs are sta’wing’….
Would you even pay attention to the babbling idiot’s comments?
With a strong Israel, (meaning able and WILLING to use its muscle) the whole world (yes including the Arab scum) would be better. As it is now, it is a pathetic degradation of a proud nation by a bunch of opportunistic psychopaths that ran for office in order to TAKE and NOT to serve.
CuriousAmerican Said:
No Need ‘Hussein Obama’ has shown how it’s to be done!!!! 🙂
Obama is the Light and the Way:
President Barack Hussein Obama has invited 80,000 Muslims to immigrate next year to the United States. He is doing this by executive order. Additionally, he has promised to bring a minimum of 100,000 additional muslims per year, for the next 5 years.
In a determination letter to Congress, Obama has announced that he will allow an additional 80,000 muslim immigrants – – mostly from Islamic countries – – to resettle in the United States during fiscal year 2011, and 100,000 per year from 2012-2016
Mr. Obama says that the increase in Muslim immigrants “is justified by humanitarian concerns or is otherwise in the national interest.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4HoBz68-Q_8
@ CuriousAmerican:
Have you seen these two new entertainment blockbusters?
“Palestinians Over Broadway”
OR
“Palestinians In Space”
Or hear the new hit songs
“We say Pita and you say Phita” “Shibboleth”
“Pigs in Mecca”
“Buses over the Jordan”
Stupid vermin can’t even pronounce the name Palestine correctly. Not an Arabic word.
Yidvocate Said:
“You shall possess the Land, and you shall settle in it; for, to you have I given the Land to possess it. … But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the Land from before you, those of them whom you leave shall be pins in your eyes and thorns in your sides, and they will harass you upon the Land in which you dwell. And it shall be that what I had meant to do to them, I shall do to you.”‘” (Numbers 33:50-56)
“They [Children of Israel] provoked Me with a non-god, angered Me with their vanities; so shall I provoke them with a non-people, with a vile nation shall I anger them.” (Deuteronomy 32:21)
What’s so hard to understand? Not one Gentile enemy!!!!! Ramban
Ted, I tried to post in 2 parts but it still disappeared my part 1 part of comment. it was a reply to curious american.
this ridiculous spam filter has made my comment disappear. Please Ted, I will email it to you to repost.
CuriousAmerican Said:
My thoughts exactly: I’ve told you umpteen times: busses across any hostile border without a treaty(gaza, syria, lebanon), deposit the hostiles, withdraw. You do not seem to appreciate the magnificent beauty of this simple solution. It is physically and practically doable; It is a permanent and sustainable solution for the jews of Israel; It is humanitarian because the infrastructure now exists in the 3 hostile entities of the UNRWA so all they need is to cease money to the defunct PA and reroute to the 3 hostile entity UNRWA’s; a permanent solution will become available because Israel will be out of the solution equation as the refugees will not longer be in Israel. This will allow the UN, the arabs, the EU to deal directly with the resettlement and relocation of the refugees and they will be unable to refer to Israel as it would be a meaningless exercise in futility as the arabs have gone. This will even allow your solution as one of many because they can be paid to leave to SA or any other nation that takes them. If they don’t deal with the problem the entities will be destabilized internally with the possibility that they end up 4 creating 3 new pal states.
Why do I have to keep telling you about a sensible solution that can actually work and only relies on a unilateral decision by Israel. All it takes is for Israelis to see how valuable, sustainable and permanent a solution it is. That will happen when the arabs do something to anger them.
@ the phoenix:
Despite the bluster (and there really is too much of that – where is the moderator?)Curious and Phoenix are really not that far apart, although Phoenix seems a bit extreme at times. Yes the Arabs are the problem. Why not simply ignore them, annex J&S, remove Arabic as an official language and Jewish-up the State to the point that Arabs will find it distasteful to live in the Jewish state and many will leave voluntarily. As a catalyst, a Ministry of Emigration should be established like Nefesh B’Nefesh to facilitate Arab relocation out of Israel. Those that remain that are peaceful should be permitted to do so as alien residents and can look to their political rights in Jordan which comprises 78% of the lands binding international law reserved for the Jewish homeland. What could be fairer? If Jordan doesn’t recognize those rights, well that’s not our problem so why do make ours?
yamit82 Said:
http://youtu.be/Uz0sQDhx1rE
CuriousAmerican Said:
http://youtu.be/Uz0sQDhx1rE
Now do YOU understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yamit82 Said:
Israel is a gift from the Amighty to the Jews, the price has been paid.
CuriousAmerican Said:
We have already paid in spades in treasure and blood. Fuck em and you too. Missionary.
yamit82 Said:
Are you sure you want to leave, Big Chief!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/xFTZ2–5xTc
honeybee Said:
You can pay me. Make me an offer.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Can we PAY you to shut-up or leave !!!!!!!!! Carido
The problem is that the Right wants to win without a cost.
They don’t want Oslo, but they do not want to declare the two-state solution is dead.
They want to annex Judea and Samaria, but they do not want to annex the Arabs on it.
They have to know that martial law in Judea and Samaria is already aggravating the Arabs who are nutty to begin with; yet they do not want to stop it.
WHAT DO THEY WANT?!
The right is afraid they will be criticized so they waffle on everything.
PAY THE ARABS TO LEAVE!
You will get less hell if you PAY THEM TO LEAVE
I will thank you not to lie about me.
Anti-semites want the Jews to leave.
I want you to get the ARABS to leave by paying them, which is the exact opposite.
I do not know how many times I have explained this and you still do not understand.
So who is the moron?
@ CuriousAmerican
After reading and attempting to digest your lenghy comments I have only one response. You need either a hobby or a girlfriend*****or both!!!!!!! Amigo
@ CuriousAmerican:
well, here we go again,american.
you keep slithering back with the SAME SHHHHSTUFF.
where you and many others like you (antisemites, iow)err, is in attributing ‘left’ and ‘right’ connotations to israeli politicians.
sadly there aere morons (you are not excluded) that stilll believe that there actually IS a ‘right’ faction in israel…. and bibi (i must pause to take some gravol…) is a hawk….
all there is right now, is a bunch of opportunists that sit in the knesset,and draw a salary and perks. (yes there may be one or two deluded exceptions but i am trying to draw the broad picture).
CuriousAmerican Said:
CuriousAmerican Said:
you see american, no matter what israel (the jews) will or will not do the ‘world’ (a bunch of friggin’ hypocritical antisemites…not unlike you btw)will howl.
and the reason the ‘world’ (and YOU) will howl, is because, like an untrained dog that was not hit IMMEDIATELY after ‘an accident’ on the living room floor(and therefore the dog now thinks it is ok to keep on doing this)so do YOU, (in the singular and in the plural) keep on dumping on israel (the JEWS) with impunity.
i ASSURE you, american, that were a TRUE leadership at the helm of israel’s ship… you and your ilk, would s.t.f.u. !!!
i find you totally despicable, with the hypocritical garbage you keep on bring to this forum.
you want to call me a biggot, a racist a whatever…
i’ll wear it as a badge of honor you antisemitic moron
The problem is the Land Of Israel are not willing to stand up for the principle. Both Katz and Ariel meekly accept racist apartheid against Jews without a word of protest – and they’re not willing to give up their ministerial portfolios to stop it!
As the Americans are fond of saying, “if you aren’t part of the solution, you are part of the problem.” Netanyahu is not the problem. They are!
Okay!
Then either
1) Start enfranchising them
-or-
2) Pay them to leave
The left in Israel is insane, but the right is satisfied by nothing.
1) They do not want Oslo
-but-
2) They do not want to annex the area since it means enfranchisement
-but-
3) They are tired of the rage that comes from the Arab street in the Paletinian Areas, partly because of the military law applied over the areas. People resist Martial law.
-but-
4) They really want the Arabs to leave but do not want to admit it (except maybe Yamit)
-but-
5) They get mad if you call it ethnic cleansing, when it is by bureaucratic tyrannical application of the rules – sometimes for security, but often just to make their lives miserable
-but-
6) If you point it out, you get falsely called anti-Semitic
-but-
and so on.
WHAT DOES THE ISRAELI RIGHT WANT?!
What you want is a cost free control of the Arabs. It is NOT going to happen.
If you ethnically cleanse the Arab, the world will howl, and you cannot claim it is anti-Semitism – though many will try.
If you maintain the Arab under the present situation, the world will howl
If you try the ridiculous Bennett plan, the world will see it for want it is: Reducing the Arabs to reservations; but you will object to that term.
It may not be Apartheid inside pre-1967 Israel, but it is functionally Apartheid in Judea and Samaria.
Israeli only road. Flying checkpoints.
What do you want. The Left is crazy, but the right cannot make up its mind.
The Right wants the Arabs to disappear, but wants the world to think the Arabs are leaving voluntarily.
CRAP!
That is not how the world works.
Pay the Arab to leave or get used to being criticized or give up Judea and Samaria.
If you confine them to A&B, then get used to being compared to South Africa with its Bantustans; because that is what you will have set up, not matter how many degreed lawyer you find to muddly up the language.
The Right is doubleminded.
If you want to act ruthlessly, you must expect and tolerate the blowback.
PAY THEM TO LEAVE.