Immigration Authority statistics show gap between number of Jewish, Muslim newborns increasing
Telem Yahav, YNET
The common perception that in a few years there will be more non-Jewish Israeli newborns than Jewish ones appears to be detached from reality.
According to Immigration Authority data published by the Yedioth Ahronoth daily on Wednesday, the number of Jewish newborns in Israel has increased by nearly 20% since 2001, while during this time the number of Muslim and Christian newborns has dropped by five and 10%, respectively.
Statistics show that over the past decade a total of 1,568, 938 people were born in Israel, including 1,157,517 Jews, 387,308 Muslims and only 24,113 Christians.
Since the beginning of 2011, 107,207 Jewish babies were born, a significantly higher number than the 30,341 Muslims and 1,864 Christians who were born this year.
According to statistics, in 2001 69% of all newborns in Israel were Jewish, while 28% were Muslim and 1.9% Christian. However, in 2010, 76% of all the babies born in Israel were Jewish, while only 22% were Muslim and 1.3% Christian.
There may be more thoughtful discussions of serious issues on IsraPundit than in the Knesset.
In this discussion I call attention to a volunteer organization http://www.friendsofefrat.org/. They claim that a donation of only $1,200 in aid can often persuade a poor woman in Israel not to have an abortion. They claim to have saved 25,000 Jewish babies over the years and over 3,000 last year alone. They also claim that nearly 50,000 Jewish babies are aborted in Israel every year. Imagine what we are losing and how many more could be saved!!!
I will try and have something for you by this evening. If you are Sabbath observant and I do not hear back I will resend it Saturday after Sunset.
@ CuriousAmerican:
Would you kindly put all these comments on South America into an article. I’d like to post it on Israpundit
Further Breakdown:
Chile has 800,000 Arabs – half or more of whom are Palestinian Christian.
They were totally uninvolved in the Mideast until the 1980s, when suddenly Arab money came in to propagandize them. Over half of them have ancestors that arrived PRIOR TO 1930. These were mostly CHRISTIANS fleeing Muslim persecutions.
Recently, they have become Radicalized. But this is new and can be undone, if some minor money is spent.
CHILE SUPPORTS ISRAEL (2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3unGc8KrUo
Chile is a liberal democracy but socially conservative. The Catholic Church was able to prevent divorce from being legalized until 2004. People just split and shacked up with others.
But there is an Evangelical Revival (now 15% of the population) going on in Chile and these people support Israel.
A NIGHT TO HONOR ISRAEL (in Chile)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsHCW3KOKOg
Between conservative Catholics, and Evangelicals, the incoming Arabs will eventually convert.
Only 1 in 4,000 Chileans are Muslim. And yet, Chile has had Muslim immigrations.
Similar conversion to Christianity has happened in Argentina and Brazil (though the conversion rates while high, are not as high as Chile)
ARABS IN ARGENTINA
Dami u Damak (Syrio-Lebanese Society)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfytr-ESVME
The show is in Spanish, only the theme song is Arabic.
Look at the video: Normal Western Women. No burqas. Probably half are part-Italian, Spanish, or German.
ARABS IN BRAZIL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YOMbf7jxMs (IN ENGLISH subtitles)
Yet, Brazil is now undergoing a massive Evangelical (read pro-Israel) revival. They are at 20% and growing.
300 Fast Food restaurants are called
HABIB’S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqlykFYbxZo
Yet, Brazil is becoming born-again Christian NOT Muslim.
Yes, there are the one or two odd ones who become Muslim (Usualy a few blacks in the slums), but MOST, the VAST MAJORITY, become born-again Christian.
One of Chile’s biggest soccer team (FOUNDED WAY BACK IN 1920, just as the Mandate started) is called Palestinos.
This is their FUTBOL (Soccer) Fight song. It has NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT ISRAEL.
HIMNO PALESTINO PALESTINIAN SOCCER CLUB ANTHEM (CHILE)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1E9O4PhO4
South America’s Palestinians place most of their ethnic effort into Soccer. They are now elites in Chile. Middle class to rich. Yes, a few prominent ones complain about Israel; but most are more interested in beach houses.
THIS HOUSE WAS GOING FOR $40,000 (US) in 2010 – 5 minutes from the beach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMDd85lSpzk
You could put a Palestinian family of four in this house, give them a car, and enough money for 3 years to live on FOR UNDER $120,000
This has NOT gone unnoticed by the Arabs who are making inroads, recently
FINALLY, I want you to look at this video. Very important.
These are photos of a soccer game at Santiago, Chile, the professional team called PALESTINOS (Palestinians)
The team was found in 1920, and the name comes from the British Mandate. This is not a new team.
Yes, the background music is Arabic, and the team colors are not politicized.
BUT DO THESE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE ARABS? HALF OF THEM ARE NOT EVEN ARABIC, or ONLY PARTLY ARABIC.
THESE ARE CHRISTIANS – LOOK HOW THE WOMEN ARE DRESSED! NOT A BURQA ANYWHERE!
CLUB DEPORTIVO PALESTINO – PALESTINE SPORTS CLUB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh-_gRpGJ28
At there end there is some politics in the last video,
Igore the politics. These fans drink beer. They are not Muslim fanatics.
but for minor money, Israel could go in and re-orient these people.
JUST REMIND THEM WHY THEIR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS FLED TO CHILE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So how could you get the South Americans to agree?
Money.
The South Americans have successfully assimilated and integrated Arabs. They know that they are no threat to them.
Just offer Chile, or Brazil, or Argentina some money say $20 Billion to allow the individuals to come in with cash.
I am aware of this. Though legally these issues are separate.
An Arab’s property in Israel cannot be encumbered in lieu of land lost to a Jew in Morocco.
The Arab refugee, who now lives in Gaza, is not predicately responsible for the flight of Moroccan Jews.
I understand your point. But the Arabs are still at the point of the three NOs.
No peace, no recognition, no negotiation.
THE ONLY CORE ISSUE is Judea and Samaria.
Get the Arabs out VOLUNTARILY out of Judea and Samaria, and the Arab opinion becomes moot.
The Jews will have to pay for this because – EVEN THOUGH THE ARABS SHOULD PAY – they will not.
If you can get the Arabs – really it only has to be the young ones – to leave J&S – to leave voluntarily, you will take the wind out of the Muslim sail.
In the end it is cheaper than war.
I wish we could embed video, this would be so much easier to show.
South America is a real option.
Here is the Breakdown:
Chile is 5% Arab (Over half of whom are Palestinian Christian) 800,000 in total – 400,000 Palestinians – 99% Christian
Argentina is 9% Arab (90%+ Lebanese Catholic, and Syrian Orthodox)3.5 Million
Brazil is 7-1/2% Arab (90%+ Lebanese and Syrian Christians) 15 Million
In all of these countries, the Arabs are often second or third generation South American and monolingual Spanish or Portuguese.
When added up, there are over 20 Million Arabs in South America going back to the 19th century.
The addition of 2 Million (I know you say it is less) from the West Bank will be insignificant in a continent of 400 Million particularly now that there is a Protestant Evangelical Revival going on in South America.
$100,000 x 2 Million is $200 Billion (or less if your figures are right)
You can buy a house near the beach in Chile for $70,000 US.
You can buy an upscale condo in the rich sections of downtown Buenos Aires for under $100,000
A family of 4 coming in with $400,000 (you would say $200,000) could set themselves up nicely and have enough money for 2-3 years while they assimilate.
About 1/5 of the Arabs who went to South America were Muslims. Yet under 10% of the Arabs are now Muslim, even though 40% of the Christian Arabs in South America have a Muslim ancestor.
SOUTH AMERICA CHRISTIANIZES THE ARABS.
Almost all are Christian now.
Source the Argentine Academic Pedro Breiger. But you have to be able to read Spanish (Click Here)
Briger showed how the Muslims exaggerated.
The Muslims claimed 3 Million Argentines were Muslim
But Breiger showed:
In theory, only 700,000 could be Muslim
In practice only 30,000 go to Mosque.
In reality, they intermarry (albeit slowly) into Christianity.
The Muslims exaggerated by a factor of 100 to 1.
Most of the Arabs in Argentina are either in Salta or Buenos Aires (a metro area of 12 million) yet there were ONLY 3 Halal butchers in the whole city in 2003.
C’mon. Muslims cannot sustain themselves went not in the majority.
In fact, in Chile, when 117 Muslims recently arrived they were handled by Catholic charities; because Muslim charites are almost non-existent.
In Chile, the Palestinian community is over 99% Christian; and Chile is in the midst of an Evangelical revival.
You do not even have to move all the Arabs in J&S. Just the young unemployed. Especially the women.
When you add it all up, it may come in greatly under my estimate for $300 Billion I originally estimated.
But if we assume $300 Billion and divide it by 15 million Jews worldwide that comes to $20,000 per Jew.
There are Jews in New York who have $1 Million Dollar Bar Mitzvahs. Use that money for a more productive purpose.
The Arabs are traders. The young, unemployed, and landless will bargain. Start with the few Christians. When the Christians leave, the rest will panic.
@ CuriousAmerican:Many years ago Israel offered to compensate refugee Jews who had left proprety behind out 0f Arab property abandoned in Israel if the Arab states compensated the refugee Arabs out of the property the Jews left behind. The Arabs rejected the proposal.
This is closer to my figure. I figure $100,000 per Arab; you say $50,000.
The key here is to encourage young women (NOT SO MUCH THE MEN) to leave with offers of good money and a passport to South America.
If the women leave, there is no breeding. If the men leave, the remaining few can always have multiple wives.
Israel and the World Jewish Community should strike deals with Chile (which already has 400,000 Palestinians), Argentina (which has 3-1/2 Million Arabs) and Brazil (with 15 Million Arabs) and offer them money to accept the immigrants, and then give money to the immigrants to leave.
If every Jew on the planet donated $20,000 this could be done.
Here is a 45 minute video I made which explains the breakdown:
A DIFFERENT SOLUTION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glXKzvLwFqc (Starts off slow but it catches up with raw figures laid out)
The key is that you only have to relocate the Arabs of J&S. The Arabs in Gaza, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt are NOT Israel’s problem.
As for annexation: Israel cannot annex without offering citizenship.
This is not workable. Israel would be required to offer citizenship and frankly, even with a 2:1 ratio the Arabs would link up with Jewish Liberals to undo the Jewish state in the Knesset. The Arabs are getting wise and now many want a one state solution.
Move them out first, or you will be facing the Lebanese debacle.
The real solution is getting the young to leave … ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG WOMEN!
CuriousAmerican Said:
I have followed the demographic issue closely. I have full confidence in Ettinger’s numbers. He says that we we annex J&S Jew will outnumber Arabs 2:1. I have even worked on a constitution for Israel that secures us under this ratio. I also realize that that ratio is of residents and not citizens.
Never the less I don’t want to annex Area A where most of the Arabs live. Look at Europe where Muslims wreak havoc with only only 10% of the population. 33% would be far too destabilizing.
So I say let the Arabs in Area A keep their autonomy and annex the rest. Then institute a program whereby Arabs are paid to leave. We could get one million to leave with 50 Billion dollars. Look at it this way we will be buying the West Bank. A lot better than spending this money to uproot 100,000 Jews which would give us nothing but inflation.
If Israel were as demographically secure as you assert, then you should annex J&S tomorrow; but you don’t.
Ettinger makes this assertion:
This immigrant surge will pander out.
May I suggest that buy the Arabs out and giving them passports is better than waging war on them.
Is this an anti-semitic notion?
As between you (Curious American) and Ambassador Ettinger, I will stick with his view unless you can support your opinion more, and tell me a little about your background so I can determine if your opinion would pass the hearsay test by way of your expertise in the subject by training or experience, and if you can qualify as objective and unbiased.
@ Wallace Brand:
In the 1920s, in order to appease the Maronite Christians, the French expanded the historical area of Mount Lebanon and Beirut (which were 80% Christian) to include Northern (heavily Sunni) and Southern Lebanon (heavily Shia).
After all, the historical heartland of the Maronites was in South Lebanon, and they would not give it up EVEN THOUGH by 1900, the Christians left in South Lebanon were small.
So the French expanded Lebanon to the size it is today; and in doing so, the Christian majority dropped overnight from 80% to 55%. By 1932, the demographic was so bad that they stopped taking censuses regularly.
The rest is history.
The Christians who started fleeing Muslim massacres of Christians during the 19th century now starting running away in ferocious waves. There are roughly 14 times as many Lebanese Christians in Brazil, Argentina, the USA, and Chile as there are in Lebanon.
The Muslims stayed and reproduced … in large numbers.
The Civil War in Lebanon sealed it. The Christians lost.
If Israel officially annexes the West Bank, without first paying large numbers of Palestinians to leave voluntarily (AND THIS WILL COST), Israel will go the way of Lebanon.
At one point Beirut was the Paris of the Mideast. Under Christian rule, Lebanon outperformed Israel in prosperity. Jews were not expelled. In fact, after 1948, many Arab Jews went to Lebanon rather than Israel.
Israelis now condemn the Lebanese when it is really and singularly the Muslims who are intolerant. It was never the Maronites.
But in the Mideast demographics is destiny.
I know the recent figures you assert which claim the Jews are winning. I doubt that; but even if true, the Arabs are willing to live at lower standards of living which will inevitably give them an edge, in the long run, over Jews in the baby production department.
I suggest you buy them out and offer them passports to South America, which has a history of converting Muslims.
IT WILL COST; but the only other option is Lebanon’s.
Ambassador Yoram Ettinger has a fine grasp of the subject. You can find one of his articles at: http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_opinion.php?id=976
Assuming that proportionately the same percentage attain child-bearing age in all three groups, this portends a 77% Jewish majority when these children grow up. The figures are for “Israel”, which, I assume, means Pre-1967 Israel, East Jerusalem, Golan and Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria. It excludes 100% Arab (read “Muslim”, for all practical purposes) areas in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. I would be surprized, if the figures include all of Area C, which would be the minimum territory Israel could formally annex to form a secure Jewish state. Incorporating the Arab-occupied portions of Area C into Israel would probably lower the 77% considerably — to, let’s say conservatively, 75%.
What would this mean for future Israel? It means that a majority in Israel of 2/3 of the Jews could be out-voted by a Muslim-pandering 1/3 minority when teamed up with the Muslim vote. That still represents a continuing demographic threat, considering the intrinsically divisive nature of Israel’s political system. Even at that, having to exclude most of YoSh and all of Aza from Israel, while continuing to have to control those regions militarily for security reasons, point to a future Israel very much like today’s, an area that can in no way be treated as an “ordinary” country.
I don’t see any solution to these problems, short of a major war and mass population transfer of Arabs out of Israel.