Speaking Tuesday night, Likud Knesset candidate Moshe Feiglin said that before the state imposes Israeli law on Judea and Samaria, it should make sure that it is in control of Afula and Lod. At this time, Feiglin said, there is a great doubt in his mind on whether that is the case.
On Tuesday, Feiglin said, he visited a 70-year-old woman in Lod who has been “suffering day and night from persecution by local Arabs. I was shocked by the stories she told more than by almost anything else I have ever heard.” The torture that the woman faced, he said, was similar to incidents that occurred throughout the country.
“Let us ensure that we have full sovereignty within the 1948 armistice lines” before attempting to extend sovereignty to the areas liberated in the 1967 Six Day War, Feiglin said, recounting his own experience from Tuesday morning’s visit to the Temple Mount, where he was detained and ejected for bowing in prayer during a visit to the Temple Mount. Police said that they were planning to charge Feiglin for his refusal to obey the orders of police to stop bowing, a report on Channel Ten said Tuesday night.
“Go to the Temple Mount and you will see Israeli police quaking in their boots from fear of the Waqf. We do not even have sovereignty over many parts of Jerusalem,” Feiglin said.
In the 1967 Six Day War, Israel gained control of Eastern Jerusalem and the Temple Mount after they were lost to Jordan in the 1948 War of Independence. The entire Jewish world rejoiced. However, then-CoS Moshe Dayan returned control over the Mount, Judaism’s holiest site, to the Moslem Wakf for whom it is third in importance, after Mecca and Medina.
Canadian Otter Said:
The Israeli voting system based on parties and splinters plus no direct representation makes this a case of apples and oranges.
@ John M Collins:
And to me, it’s the same scabdal whether it happens to a man or a women in Lod or in Aish Kodesh.
An interesting comment by “A Jew” who did not identify himself on Arutz Sheva.
He says:
#2 – “Lots of folks here on A7, just a few months ago, were putting down Jews in America who voted for bho in a major way. How ironic it would be if Netanyahu were to be reelected only to continue the expulsions in Yehuda & Shomron?”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12673
He makes a very good point.
@ the phoenix:
The brutality shown by police/IDF during expulsions of Jews in Israel fills us with shame. There have been several small expulsions during these last four years. People blame Barak, but it is all done with the PM’s approval, while fake-right wing Likud MKs wring their hands and say that police should be more gentle while throwing Jews out of their homes. Those expulsions are illegal, deliberately humiliating and violent, and happen in the middle of the night. Children are terrorized. Family belongings are tossed in a garbage heap, and Arabs are called to pick them up. The whole picture eerily reminiscent of Cossack hatred and brutality. All happening to Jews in Israel, of all places. No doubt those officers must have been carefully picked by their superiors. No decent human being would want to be part of that.
@ Shy Guy:
Surely you jest. If the Great King was in your midst, do you think the charade of
false peace accords, rockets at His children, gay and lesbian parades, Jews being arrested on the Mount for ‘moving their lips’, and the plan to divide His land would
be taking place? To be sure, the Great King will have mercy for His Covenant sake, but please read The Book so that reality will prevail over illusion.
@ Canadian Otter:
Dear otter,
In reply to your comment I would just direct the israpundit readership to read the talkbacks of this same article in arutz 7
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/163807#.UOSXEny9KSM
There seems to be a unanimous feelings of disgust and disbelief…
So the real question is HOW is this allowed to be???
Apparently, these soldiers are hand picked for their anti ‘settler’ views and them being avid leftards
Everyone has hammered away at the problem of the Temple Mount, but in some ways the problem of Lod is more scandalous. That a jewish woman in Israel should feel herself oppressed by Arabs deserves at least the close attention of the Police.
@ yamit82:
By all of this I am now confused as ever. Nothing new. Sometimes, like my sons say, “dad you just don’t get it”.
I am of the belief the Temple is a house of G-d and a place to gather in prayer to G-d.
If not used for this purpose, then what?
@ Laura:
Here is a brief historical background:
“We know from history that when the Herodian Temple stood, stone plaques, some in Latin, others in Greek, were placed in the Court of the Gentiles warning any Gentile not to enter the precincts of the Temple at the risk of losing his life.
In August 1967 after Israel’s capture of the Mount, Rabbi Shlomo Goren the chief rabbi of the IDF (and later chief rabbi of the State of Israel) began organizing public prayer for Jews on the Temple Mount. Rabbi Goren was also well known for his (controversial) positions concerning Jewish sovereignty over the Temple Mount. On August 15, 1967, shortly after the Six-Day War, Goren led a group of fifty Jews onto the Temple Mount, where, fighting off protesting Muslim guards and Israeli police, they defiantly held a prayer service. Goren continued to pray for many years in the Makhkame building overlooking the Temple Mount where he conducted yearly High Holiday services. His call for the establishment of a synagogue on the Temple Mount has subsequently been reiterated by his brother-in-law the Chief Rabbi of Haifa, She’ar Yashuv Cohen.
Goren was sharply criticized by the Israeli Defense Ministry, who, noting Goren’s senior rank, called his behaviour inappropriate. The episode led the Chief Rabbis of the time to restate the accepted laws of Judaism that no Jews were allowed on the mount due to issues of ritual impurity. The secular authorities welcomed this ruling as it preserved the status quo with the Waqf, the Islamic authority. Disagreeing with his colleagues, Goren continually maintained that Jews were not only permitted, but commanded, to ascend and pray on the mount.
Goren repeatedly advocated or supported building a Third Temple on the Temple Mount from the 1960s onward, and was associated with various messianic projects involving the site.
. The sealed entrance can be seen from the Western Wall Tunnel, which opened to the public in 1996.
The Chief Rabbis of Israel, Isser Yehuda Unterman and Yitzhak Nissim, together with other leading rabbis, asserted that “For generations we have warned against and refrained from entering any part of the Temple Mount.” A recent study of this rabbinical ruling suggests that it was both “unprecedented” and possibly prompted by governmental pressure on the rabbis, as well as “brilliant” in preventing Muslim-Jewish friction on the Mount. Rabbinical consensus in the Religious Zionist stream of Orthodox Judaism continue to hold that it is forbidden for Jews to enter any part of the Temple Mount .” (Wikipedia)
Arab police brutalize Jews – Another Dhimmitude report – Israeli Arab police attack Jewish women, children, clash with IDF.
Must read: http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/idf-soldiers-clashing-with-brutal-border-police-for-shooting-at-jews/2013/01/02/
Affirmative action, Arab takeover of Israel, abuse of Jewish rights – all thanks to the Dhimmitude enforcing Israeli government.
DAVIDA ROSENBERG Said:
You don’t know anything about are rabbis, you messyanic christian ignoramus. You think they’re all pol manipulators like Ovadya Yosef? You have no idea.
The Great King has been here all the time. Hint: it ain’t your dead jesus boy. Who hasn’t arrived yet is the messiah, a flesh and blood descendant of King David – but not the pagan man-god deity of your imagination.
@ yamit82:
Moshe Dyan squandered a great victory.
@ XLucid:
Bingo! Hit the bullseye. We have a law which protects us and we are not using it?
NO WONDER THE INMATES ARE RUNNING THE INSTITUTIONS. Men have kissed “Folly” and called it Love. What a bad joke. It’s time to ring the bell, blow the shofar, come out of hiding and USE THE EVIDENCE THAT THE PALESTENIANS = Jordanian Arab Immigrants have BREACHED AND INVALIDATED EVERY PEACE ACCORD, THEREBY INVALIDATING THEM ALL.
There will be wars. We endure them continually, until we decide to muster the moxy to do something about it; only to learn that it always gives the lawless one step up.
How stupid.
We can thank the Liberal Left Jews in Israel and USA for this insanity.
They belong outside the Camp. THEY ARE NOT ISRAELITES, BUT SONS OF KORAH.
That’s right. Liberal Left Jews are sons of Korah. They are bascially cowards but false self esteem and mental confusion have given them Prozac instead of God.
uggh. I can’t stand them.
@ Canadian Otter:
” respecting all your comments, and noting that the common denominator of all the rhethoric, is that Israel has lost it’s National Identity. There is a famine in the land for the Word of GOD, and Israel is The land of GOD. The Tanack affirms that He owns it all, and we who live upon it, are His tenants. Israeli Rabbi’s are not teaching this Word. Nobody is… and among those souls who do wish to live by His Word and teach it as well, they are persecuted and sued for ‘doing what is right.’
The ‘whole head is sick.’ The only cure, the ONLY CURE, is to Return to inquire of
The Author of our Holy Book, and see what He has to say on the matter.
Until men defer to Him and Him only, we will be forever chained to the ferris wheel and will not be able to get off.
Do you imagine that the reputation of a King David would tolerate the utter nonsense that Israel tolerates? The leadership is spiritually asleep or dead, or both and the people are in dreamland with them. The Rabbi’s who consider themselves enlightened, are silent when they should instead be rallying the people to action.
This is why ‘the nations rage’ and Kings imagine vain things.’ Pslam II.
Those among you who are zealous and in one accord, need to join ranks and make your voice and your vote show up on election day. The relgious do not need to sit smoking cigarettes, behave like roosters who strut, and act holier than thou. They need to get busy defending our National Constitution, which is actually The Torah of God. If men don’t speak according to this word, there is no light in them. (Isaiah)
How utterly pitiful that Israeli police would arrest a man for the crime of moving his lips (on the Mount.) What a joke for Saturday Night Live! It’s laughable in between the grief of our de- masculation! We need to tell the West, good bye and get on with the Hope that our Faith will usher in the coming of The Great King.
respects to everyone, and gratitude to Ted Bel for providing this forum.
DGR Live Like Israelites: call a spade a spade.
Under the circumstances, the question is not to pray or not to pray on the Temple Mount.
The question relates to the discrimination perpetrated against the Jews who exercise they basic rights : liberty of worship without discrimination granted under the basic laws of Israel.
Regardless of the motive, Mr. Feiglin as any citizen of the democratic state of Israel should have been allowed to pray, to bow and to do what he pleased.
The best answer still remains in the application of Article 2 of the Protection of Holy Places Law:
b. Whosoever does anything likely to violate the freedom of access of the members of the different religions to the places sacred to them or their feelings with regard to those places shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of five years.
@ Shmuel HaLevi:
Thank you. And I hope you’ll keep us posted about new ideas proposed at your meeting and any new developments. I look forward to your analyses.
Canadian Otter Said:
When he prayed previous times and got arrested, what excuses did you make up then to explain his actions?
I thought not.
Canadian Otter Said:
It can. Unfortunately like so many other matters, Israel just cowers at the “racist” accusations which Israel’s self-loathing left makes sure are printed on page one of the morning newspapers.
Canadian Otter Said:
I responded to this nonsensical claim above. It is childish slander to suit your warped suppositions.
Canadian Otter Said:
It’s the other way around. The nationalists have been nothing but divided and weak, constantly splintering their sectoral parties over and over again. Just witness what Aryeh Eldad did now and what Katzeleh and the Mafdal did the last time around. And none of these folks help in any which way to stop the runaway train engine heading the Likud. You can only do that from the inside.
Had the sectoral nationalists united years ago when Manhigut Yehudit was founded specifically for that purpose and consistantly joined and voted for the Likud, chances are that Netanyahu may not even have been elected in 2009, let alone now in 2013.
The strategy is simple. So is the math. But it doesn’t work if all everyone can do is to think small. Very small.
@ Canadian Otter: CO, you are extraordinarily aware ane a very good analyst. We have been manipilated for decades and every one of your mentioned tool of control have been used by the “families” or elites. There are individuals and scatered groups such as ours that do make efforst to unite those aware.
The 8th of this month we are holding a general meeting to formulate working options regarding the subject.
Shmuel HaLevi Said:
You’re right. Vote for the opposition and whine another four years. Practice stomping feet and gnashing teeth now. Oh, wait! You must have years of experience doing those already.
I was just checking the headlines on A7 and there it is: Moshe Feiglin was arrested because he bowed at Temple Mount. In other words, he deliberately tried to attract attention. Yamit is vindicated. – http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/163791
In other news Feiglin suggests paying $500,000 to each Arab to emigrate. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/163806 – This is something Yamit does not agree with, but it would make sense, considering the cost of policing them – and future costs of their presence that will go beyond money. Expulsion in peace time is a non-starter. Israel can’t even expel tens of thousands of African criminals that have infiltrated its borders.
YAMIT, SHY GUY, SHMUEL and others – thank you for your responses. I don’t presume to understand the very complex Israeli politics, or the true motivations of their main protagonists. There are too many layers, and I don’t think that even people in govt know all the forces involved – or every time both people and politicians are being manipulated. ~~~~~ To someone thousands of miles away nothing on the surface makes rational sense. For instance, I don’t buy the usual explanations for politicians’ behavior. They are not weak, they are not ‘misguided’, they are not stupid. ~~~~~ So, what’s really going on? What makes the leadership (elected or not) act the way they do? And what makes people believe their lies – in spite of a decades of being lied to? ~~~~~ What about issues such as intimidation? ‘Police investigations’ of politicians are almost a charicature, designed as a warning to others. There are other more subtle and sophisticated ways of controling both leaders and followers. I suspect this may be a reason why there is no independent Yesha organization. Groups that plant trees or build shacks on hilltops are tolerated to a point because, in the grand scheme of things, they’re harmless. But those with serious potential for leadership are intimidated or co-opted from the start. ~~~~~ We are all familiar with open US meddling in the internal affairs of other countries. Sovereignty is pretty much a fairy tale, and so is democracy. We should not take our political leaders at face value. They are performers, above all, and they keep their cards close to their chest. The people should never surrender their power to them, trusting that they will do what’s best for the country – or that they’ll keep their promises. People need to exert constant oversight and control over their govt, if not through the system, then through independent organizations and their sheer numbers. ~~~~~ Regarding Mr Feiglin, he goes regularly to Temple Mount, but maybe he tried to pray this time, and of course he was arrested. But the main point is that he continues to play a role that keeps nationalists divided and weak. Draw your own conclusions.
@ Bernard Ross:
Excellent comment. Regretfully, there is no longer any doubt what is the likuds plan, so red herring, misdirection should not be allowed to occult the facts.
Bernard Ross Said:
He is being cynical. His point is that the resulting symptoms of Israel’s abandonment of Judea and Samaria for 40 years are showing up all over pre-67 Israel, too.
Is that very difficult for people to comprehend?
Do any of you bother reading Manhigut’s weekly update newsletter? The last thing on Feiglin’s mind is to “distract” anyone from Judea and Samaria.
Why does one need to forget Yesha in order to remember Lod? Is Feiglin creating a red herring, distracting one’s attention to internal problems so as to take the attention away from YS and settlement? Is Feiglin disingenuous?
Shmuel HaLevi Said:
Feiglin does not promote Netanyahu. He promotes the party as the vehicle needed to replace Netanyahu.
You’re more off the hinge than Barry Chamish on a clear day. At least Chamish got one thing right.
Please explain what that has to do with Moshe Dayan’s decision to hand Har Habayit to the Waqf. I thought not.
@ Shy Guy:
I was in the LIKUD for 17 years and the Central Committe for 12 years until I resigned about a year ago. The ferment stink there was too much.
I knew everyone in the top echelon in person up to family level. Several attended our dsughters weddings. Including Sharon, Dr. Landau, Hanegbi, the late Ezra and others. I encounterd Mr. Feiglin when he was still with “Zo Hartzenu”. I liked him then.
His meeting with the Shabbak made me quite unhappy soon after. His linking with an obviously pseudo nationalist cadre completed my doubts. One does not promote to PM position a person that is committed to dismembering Eretz Israel. I do not need explanations. Facts speak for themselves.
The timely scraps and sudden dances of all of them including Mr. Feiglin are orchestrated for effect along party directives. From Netanyahu. NEKUDAH.
I am a Levite with roots in Eretz Israel dating back thousands of years. Koahnim and Levi’im in our family.
Religious. The undue control over religious life by tens of thousands of Rabbanim craeted the conditions for turf fights allowing for the Mount to be dispensed away by those that pay their salearies and stipends.
The tragedy awaiting to happen to all of us is predicated upon cheap politicians turning the Holy of Holies into election day dances.
NormanF Said:
Is that what you wish to argue against Rav Kook (a Cohen), the late Rav Herzog and a host of others? Just plain silly.
When the Tana’im were around at the end of the 2nd Temple period, do you see anywhere where Kohanim and Rabbanim competed against each other? Again, just plain silly.
Just because you can make up a theory, doesn’t mean it’s based on a dust speck of reality.
I mentioned this once before. A student of Rav Meir Kahane HY”D told the story about the Knesset Debate regarding the Har Habayit, when the late Rabbi Menachem Porush castigated Rav Kahane for wanting to open up Har Habayit to Jews when it is forbidden according to many (if not most) of the most well known rabbinic authorities to go there or at last to major parts of Har Habayit. Rav Kahane responded to Rav Porush to at least walk arm and arm together and meet him halfway by shutting down the Har Habayit to everyone – meaning Arabs – in the meantime. Rav Porush did not argue further.
Shy Guy Said:
I took note of this in the last thread. When the Jew still is not completely free – the words of Israel’s national anthem ring hollow! When the Jew’s actions are dictated by fear of Europe will say or of what the Arabs might do – Zionism remains incomplete. And while its true Israel has been physically restored, the refusal of the Jews to rebuild their Holy Temple says that after 2000 years, they still remain in spiritual exile. The Jewish people have still to attain their true liberation in the Land Of Israel and in Jerusalem.
Some time it was forbidden to enter the Temple Mount with flags with a chross. Norway,Sweden, Danmark, Finland
Dayan was Fond in food. The arabs gave him dinner every day till they gave him what they wanated. The temple mount
Viking story – Kill me, but not with porage
Shy Guy Said:
What happens to the Rabbinate when the Temple is re-opened and the priests are again leading the nation? Again, this is not about Judaism – this is about politics and fear of the goyim. Jews in Israel are still living in the ghetto. You cannot be a “free people in our land and in Jerusalem” when you worry about what others think and need their approval to live according to your own customs.
yamit82 Said:
The arguments against rebuilding the Beit HaMikdash are not religious – they are political. The Jew fears the Arabs more than he fears G-d and so this is how we have come to the absurd state of affairs of today when a Jew can be arrested for prostrating himself to G-d on the Temple Mount plaza!
yamit82 Said:
That’s not fair – Feiglin has principles and believes in Jewish freedom of worship! He went up to the Temple Mount plaza on the Hebrew calendar 19th of every month long before he became an MK candidate. He is willing to pay the price for his beliefs – when he was in “Zo Arzeinu” – he tried to stop the corrupt Oslo process that gave away Jewish land to the Arabs and for his pains was convicted by Israel’s corrupt “justice” system of the crime of “sedition.” He’s doing this out of personal conviction and not to win votes. No one else in Israel has his integrity.
Shmuel HaLevi Said:
Plain nonsense based on utter ignorance.
How many years have you known the man personally? Our personal relationship with Moshe goes back over 7 years. You’re full of crap.
@ yamit82:
The Rabbinic operatives see a danger to their perks and micro control if the Temple Mount is open to Jews. That is all at that level. Politicals of the Dayan and Peres school use that to try to destroy the true Jewish base.
Mr. Feiglin was sent to create misdirection, nothing else.
@ Shy Guy:
Shy Guy Said:
Noted!
I may have misspoke and apologies to Moshe!
yamit82 Said:
No. It demonstrates that we don’t care to run the country again and again. Hey! The national religious camp has been doing this for sixty something years. Ad 120! /sarc
Canadian Otter Said:
That was Feiglin’s point. The article and the title here are misleading.
Manhigut Yehudit has always said that we should declare all of Yesha (A+B+C) to be sovereign state territory. What Feiglin simply pointed out is that the government’s lack of belief in our own rights to the land is affecting our hold on the land even within 1948 borders. Dealing with the problems of Lod, Jerusalem and Haifa defacto leads to dealing with Hevron Beit El And Tapuach as well.
Moshe is warning Israel that you cannot cut the land of Israel into supposedly convenient pieces.
yamit82 Said:
What stupidity and Lashon Harah – Motzee Shem Rah, oh so great promoter of the Torah that you claim to be. Moshe goes up to the Har Habayit every 19th of each Jewish calendar month. He has been doing hishtachaviyah and praying every other time. He’s gotten arrested for it in the past, too. It has nothing to do with elections or Bennet. Shame on your disgraceful and baseless accusations. You’ve become nothing more than an immature pimp for anything-but-Feiglin rants.
All over the world, Jews turn and pray towards Jerusalem and they pray for the speedy reconstruction of the Holy Temple.
Moslims who have nothing to do with the site are allowed to go everywhere on the Temple Mount without any hindrance, while Jews are forbidden to pray in the area, and certainly neither to bow nor worship their God.
M. Feiglin is used to go for prayers at certain days during each Jewish month during all year round, and it is not the first time that he is detained by the police for the same reason, it happened also nearly a month ago.
Independently of the question of Halakha, once again Israel applies the double standard depriving Jews from their very basic rights and favoring unconditionally arabs.
Israel, as any democratic state, promulgated laws for all the citizens of the country without discrimination, and among other laws, with respect to the Holy Places, article 2(b) of “Protection of Holy Places Law” stipulates the following:
b. Whosoever does anything likely to violate the freedom of access of the members of the different religions to the places sacred to them or their feelings with regard to those places shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of five years.
In any democracy, each citizen benefits from a free exercise of worship without any discrimination but ironically, Israeli government does not apply such statement to Jews especially on the issue of the Temple Mount.
Unfortunately, the respective issues of the Temple Mount and the Yesha territories refer to the same discrimination and the same unfairness against the same people: the Jews.
@ Canadian Otter:
Otter take a look closely at this site: http://jewishisrael.ning.com/
Feiglin: [Jewish Israel notes that up until now the only Likud faction to publicly separate from Joel Bell and evangelical funding has been Moshe Feiglin’s Manhigut Yehudit.] http://jewishisrael.ning.com/profiles/blogs/likuds-assulin-opportunist-or
Besides their missionary activities here they are corrupting the whole country with money through financial support for our politicians and institutions including many orthodox ones and their charities. (There are no free lunches)
@ Canadian Otter:
You are probably right about Katz (katzele) I believe he sold out to Christian missionaries for their financial support. Anyone who spoke out negatively against that sector was fired or their contracts not renewed like Tovia Singer and Yehuda Ha Cohen, and Zvi Fishman’s Blog. Katz was a Sharon groupie and supported him even though it was obvious where Sharon was taking them.
They have made Arutz 7 into a parve benign radio station that is almost non political and very mainstream Jewish programing. I think they have a larger christian following than a Jewish one.
@ drjb:
The rabbis ban Jews from the Temple Mount for fear of desecrating the remains of the Holy of Holies while the Arabs build lavatories there. The arguments pro are political; the arguments contra are religious.
The government’s actions are only rational if it aims at annihilating Judaism. Rabbinical leaders don’t want the Temple.
The Dome was specifically built there to commemorate the triumph of Islam. Minimal self-esteem requires Israelis to do away with the Dome.
The Temple of our nation
“My sanctuary, the pride of your power” Ezekiel 24:21
The Temple: To rebuild or not to rebuild?
@ yamit82:
That’s what it looks like. I hope others can see through it.
I don’t presume to know what’s going on thousands of miles away, but judging by the last four years, Feiglin seems to have concentrated more on raising funds for his organization and defending his support for Likud instead of getting more directly involved in opposing his party’s pro-Arab policies.
Other impressions: that the National Union’s performance was not bold enough during the same period, which may be due to Yaakov Katz’s restraining of the more lively members of the coalition, such as Ben Ari and Eldad. No wonder they got fed up and left to form their own new party, Strong Israel. I hope they will really stir things up now.
@ Canadian Otter:
I smell politics and electioneering in Feiglins act. He knew he would get arrested and draw the attention of some of Bennett’s supporters.
A strong party to the right of the Likud is an anathema for Feiglin as it demonstrates that his efforts and theory has been usurped by a potentially stronger and more popular party than the one he has attached himself to.
His words may have been designed to give a jolt to those in passive helplessness as Arabs take over pre-1967 Israel. But they seem to come from a place of weakness rather than strength. He seems to be reining in those who are too ambitious. Why?
Lod or Yesha are the same. If Yesha is lost, Lod is sure to follow too.
Without clear goals and strong unity and organization, Jews can’t hold on to any part of the land. Nukes and high-tech weapons are useless against terror and evil diplomacy, aided by the self-deluded and those who betray you from within.
Perhaps Moshe Feiglin should fire the first salvo by quitting the main agent of Israeli surrender at the moment: the Likud party. Before it is too late.
@ yamit82:
yamit82 Said:
Hi Yamit,
Please explain to me why the hallachic divide. Why is it that the Chief Rabinnate in Israel has ruled that it is hallachically not permissible to enter Har Habayt?, why is it that no prominent Rabbi worldwide (like Rabbi Jonathan Sacks) has openly ruled and endorsed the possibility to enter and pray in Har Habayt?
Why would the Israeli government stick it’s neck out on a religious issue that has no religious support?
Feiglin is the only politician who makes any noise about Har Habayt, who keeps it in the agenda by going up every month. Most are happy to ignore it because, if the Haredim/UTJ/Shas ignore it, why should the non-religious bother with it?
That is the problem! And the solution is simple: get prominent Rabbis to support going up to Har Habayt, have them encourage their followers to do so and the problem will be solved. If the multitudes want it, they will get it. The problem is the multitudes have been told by their leaders: you should not go!
The Mount was liberated–and abandoned.
An intimidated, wavering rabbinate shaped by exilic traditionalism joined hands with a political establishment on which the entire issue had been forced, and who could not forget that its main demand had always been free access to the Wailing Wall. Behold, this was now achieved.
There was yet another factor. Was it not clear, as a matter if course, that should the city fall into the hands of Jews –even if the mosques on the Temple Mount should survive the battles–that the Temple Mount itself appropriated and removed from the control of the political-religious-nationalist Waqf, with its incitement to kill the Jews?
Would one not expect that Jews, following both Halachic prescriptions and their generations of longing, renew their prayers on the Mount? Could anything be more natural? After all the Hasmoneans and the Zealots fought for the Temple Mount, not for the Wall.
But no: the Jews abandon the Mount and go down to the Wailing Wall. At that moment, it dawned upon the Muslim Arabs that the battle might be over, but the war was not. There was no decision, and the heart of El Quds remained in their hands.