When Dr. Li Wenliang was being arrested, interrogated and finally killed in Wuhan, for the “crime” of not kissing butt upline before reporting the virus, US President Donald Trump was being impeached by a thoroughly corrupt US political establishment on entirely fabricated charges. In both cases, a corrupt political culture led to critical delays in reacting, costing the world hundreds of thousands of untimely deaths.
If you want to lay ultimate blame on someone for letting this happen, blame societies, in the US, China and all over the world, that have abandoned the fear of God and replaced it with the fear of men. Correct that problem, and you will correct the other.
@ Michael S:
In my opinion, the Dr. had no business sowing panic among 1.5 billion people before anyone figured out what was happening and how to handle it.
It’s easy to label someone a dissident in a country “we don’t like”.
Moreover, Trump refused to stop flights from China to the US for a whole month after he had the info.
He didn’t “refuse”….he hadn’t been requested to stop flights. Nobody was stopping flights then, except maybe Israel. He-and his advisors, since he is not a bio-scientist- were assessing the situation.
You shouldn’t make such inflammatory, and closed-ended accusations. How you YOU know this but nobody else did, nor have I read or heard any other such accusation…?? It wasn’t mentioned on this site, and we-collectively- are very acute in delving into the available info.whether true or false.
@ Edgar G.:
Reader- I listened earlier to that tape from China, and the Chinese govt was actually encouraging international flights well into March. Trump stopped flights from China towards the end of January. The best estimate that any experts can agree on is that the virus appeared in China between early September and the beginning of November.-roughly. It is a long, and complicated video jumping dates out-of-order all over the calendar, so I may be a week out here or there but not more. Some US (?) intelligence guy in China, told his US colleague in early Jan, that he’d heard there was a virus going around, I can’t recall if the recipient reported it to his superiors nor what they did with the info if they received it. But shortly after Trump heard about it he took some action.
According to the Swiss Policy Research site, compiled by a consortium of physicians and medical scientists, the actual death rate from COVID-19 is about 0.0l%, the same as for the “common flu.” In some countries, the death rate from COVID-19 has resembled that of a “severe flu season,” but in other countries, such as Germany, that of a “mild flu season.” In many countries, the average age of death for people who tested positive for coronavirus is 86 years. The overwhelming majority of those whose deaths have been attributed to coronavirus were suffering from another terminal disease, such as leukemia, at the time of their deaths. Nearly all had preexisting conditions, such as diabetes, which made them more likely to die from an infectious disease.
““The only means to fight the plague is honesty.” (Albert Camus, 1947)
According to the latest immunological and serological studies, the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1% and thus in the range of a strong seasonal influenza (flu).
In countries like the US, the UK, and also Sweden (without a lockdown), overall mortality since the beginning of the year is in the range of a strong influenza season; in countries like Germany, Austria and Switzerland, overall mortality is in the range of a mild influenza season.
Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general population of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car ride to work. The risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild or no symptoms were not taken into account.
Up to 80% of all test-positive persons remain symptom-free. Even among 70-79 year olds, about 60% remain symptom-free. Over 95% of all persons develop at most moderate symptoms.
Up to 60% of all persons may already have a certain cellular background immunity to Covid-19 due to contact with previous coronaviruses (i.e. common cold viruses). The initial assumption that there was no immunity against Covid-19 was not correct.
The median age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years (e.g. 86 years in Sweden) and only about 4% of the deceased had no serious preconditions. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality.
In many countries, up to two thirds of all extra deaths occurred in nursing homes, which do not benefit from a general lockdown. Moreover, in many cases it is not clear whether these people really died from Covid19 or from weeks of extreme stress and isolation.
Up to 30% of all additional deaths may have been caused not by Covid19, but by the effects of the lockdown, panic and fear. For example, the treatment of heart attacks and strokes decreased by up to 60% because many patients no longer dared to go to hospital.
Even in so-called “Covid19 deaths” it is often not clear whether they died from or with coronavirus (i.e. from underlying diseases) or if they were counted as “presumed cases” and not tested at all. However, official figures usually do not reflect this distinction.
Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 turned out to be false: many of these young people either did not die from Covid19, they had already been seriously ill (e.g. from undiagnosed leukaemia), or they were in fact 109 instead of 9 years old. The claimed increase in Kawasaki disease in children also turned out to be false.” (From Swiss Policy Research site.”
@ Edgar G.:
I might have been wrong to use the word “refused”.
China reported the virus to WHO on December 31, 2019.
On January 30, 2020 the World Health Organization declared a public health emergency of international concern.
On January 31, 2020 Trump administration announced restrictions on travel from China and Trump claimed it was solely his decision (which it wasn’t).
Many countries (not all) announced travel restrictions from China before the US did.
I remember reading (when they started blaming China for the virus) that the US security services submitted reports on the virus way before January 31, 2020.
Finally, the city of New York got their coronavirus not from China but from the flights from Europe (this is what Cuomo claimed) which were not restricted (at the time, at least).
I believe tht the CCP regime’s decision to permit Chinese to go abroad after it learned that COVID-19 could be spread by human transmission was deliberately intended spread it throughout the world. One of the reasons was to provide cover for a “reset” of the Chinese and world economies. Many market “gurus” had been predicting for years had been predicting that the world economy would collapse because of “overextension of credit” by the banks to large corporations, unless governments, especially the U.S. government, provided massive financial aid to ditressed banks and companies. But the public in both the West and perhaps even in China would not accept such a huge assumption of debt unless some sort of emergency was declared as cover. Hence the COVID-2 pandemic, whether real of fabricated.
@ Adam Dalgliesh:
“reset” of the …economies” I don’t think it would be in China’s interests.
The US owes China over a trillion $$ – why would China want to bankrupt its largest debtor (and, possibly, its largest market)?
The $ is the world currency which can only be printed by one country, so the trick was either designed by this country or they are all in on it considering how almost every country’s actions were synchronized.
Governments (except for the US) cannot provide financial aid to their banks other than by borrowing from the IMF or the World Bank who usually impose austerity measures on the borrowing country.
This means that these countries would become impoverished debt slaves themselves in order to rescue their failing banks.
You are saying that these countries were perfectly willing to sacrifice themselves to save their banks but they just needed a good excuse to cover it up.
I don’t get it.
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