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March 8, 2014 | 7 Comments »

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  1. Upon reflection , the Canadian authorities fouled up by letting the members escape Canada.
    . Such a ruling would make the sect leaders very desperate as taking all the children ends the sect. It places the children in grave danger as they might take the Jim Jones or Waco, Texas way out.
    Looks like bureaucratic bungling in the Justice system.

  2. It seems they are bad – though I am careful to jump to conclusions because the state wishes to impose the values of the state (eg one of the charges I heard on the TV was they didn’t get a “proper” eduction – ie indoctrination, and when I hear that , red flags go up) and Canadian authorities have a long history of stealing kids from the poor and the native people to give to the middle class and the rich.
    ..
    But is seems there is no love in the group – so it seems – -propaganda is hard to sort out.

  3. UPDATE

    Seven of the 13 children involved in a custody dispute between the Lev Tahor sect and Ontario and Quebec child protection services have been returned to Ontario.

    Joel Helbrans
    Joel Helbrans, a 21-year-old member of Lev Tahor still in Chatham, Ont., said he and the other members of the sect feel persecuted. (CBC)
    ?

    Six of them, along with three adults, were stopped at an airport in Trinidad and Tobago last week while en route to Guatemala.

    They had fled Canada prior to a court date in Ontario at which they were scheduled to learn the outcome of an appeal made against an order to remove 13 children from the ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect’s compound in Chatham-Kent, Ont., near Windsor.

    ‘[If you want to] hate me because I’m a Jew, hate me. But I’m a Jew. It’s what I am.’- Joel Helbrans, Lev Tahor member

    The Lev Tahor families are facing allegations of child neglect.

    “Chatham-Kent Children’s Services staff were at the airport with Peel police assistance and carried out Judge Templeton’s order to bring those children into the agency’s care,” said Stephen Doig, director of Chatham-Kent Children’s Services.
    ?Lev Tahor: 5 questions answered

    Miriam Helbrans, a member of Lev Tahor living in Chatham, told CBC News on Monday that one of the children in the group that was stopped in Trinidad — a 16-year-old girl — is on a hunger strike and has been transferred to a Toronto-area hospital.

    CBC News is trying to confirm this information.

    Flight risk

    A brother of one of the female members of Lev Tahor who fled, said he told an Ontario social worker the family was a flight risk before the Ontario court ruled last month to uphold Quebec’s order to remove the children.
    ?Lev Tahor: Ontario should have seen flight risk, Quebec says

    In an exclusive interview with CBC’s French-language service Radio-Canada, the brother — who lives in Israel — said the social worker spoke in Hebrew and English with him and specifically asked whether they should be concerned about a possible flight risk.

    The brother, who is not a member of Lev Tahor, said he told the social worker there was indeed a significant risk they would flee.

    He said he has tried to extricate his sister from the sect for three years without success, adding that she only became a member of Lev Tahor after leaving Israel.
    ?Lev Tahor leader Shlomo Helbrans’s refugee case questioned

    Lev Tahor leader Rabbi Shlomo Helbrans applied to Canada for refugee status from Israel in 2003, and his appeal was upheld in 2005.

    He had moved to Quebec in the late 1990s after serving two years in a New York jail for kidnapping a boy.

    Locating the children

    Six of the 13 children involved in the court case made it to their final destination on an earlier flight to Guatemala connecting through Mexico City.

    Joel Helbrans
    In an interview with CBC News, Joel Helbrans wore a yellow Star of David with the word “Jew” written on it as a symbol of persecution. (CBC)

    “The agency continues to work with various authorities to locate the remaining children, and if found, those children that are subject to the [order] will also be placed in the care of Chatham-Kent Children’s Services,” Doig said.

    Meanwhile, two other members of the sect who are involved in the custody battle have also been located.

    The remaining child, a five-month-old baby, was stopped at the Calgary International Airport Sunday along with its 17-year-old mother. They were flown back to Toronto and both mother and baby are now in the care of Chatham-Kent Children’s Services, according to Peel police.

    The young mother was initially part of Quebec’s Youth Protection Services order in November mandating that a group of young people among the ultra-Orthodox Jewish sect be placed in foster care.

    An Ontario judge later ruled that because of her age and the fact that she was also a parent, she should not be included in the order requiring the children be placed in foster care.

  4. @ Max:

    The sect, led by Rabbi Shlomo Helbrans, reportedly uses extreme violence and mind control. Most of its members are Israeli-born with children born in Canada.

    Originally an Israeli citizen, Helbrans went to the United States, where he was convicted in 1994 for kidnapping and served a two-year prison term before being deported to Israel in 2000. He then settled in Canada.

    An Israeli parliamentary hearing last month documented cases of physical abuse and said the sect is a dangerous cult

    The above was taken from an alert I received from Bnai Brith Canada.

  6. Nice Stuff – he is very eloquent- I ‘m just listening to his playlist for the stuff I’ve missed for the last year.
    Worth listening to several times so one can know how to respond to Islamic propagandists.
    ..
    Now how about the recent Lev Tahor arrests in Canada. I checked in here to see if there is any opinion of this sect etc.

    What’s the skivvy on this sect? Politics killed the tongues?